Micro 236: Aristocats Mafia, GAME OVER

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:08 am

/confirm

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #10 (isolation #1) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:51 am

^scum

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #13 (isolation #2) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:01 am

vote: saulres

he is scum 100%

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #15 (isolation #3) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:41 am

Damn I forgot.

Sup

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #19 (isolation #4) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:02 pm

u mean Evil Regals

Damn it not again! Corrected. - JS

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #21 (isolation #5) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:02 pm

Hi goat

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #24 (isolation #6) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:59 pm

@ salures, do you have a fake claim?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #31 (isolation #7) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:09 pm

In post 26, saulres wrote:@Jake: I fake-claimed scum in my RVS vote on you.

Other than that, no. You?

Skelda, the purpose of RVS is to incite discussion. You have to post
something
to get the game going, and that's as good a way as any. Something will shake out of it.

AA9, why no lurk?

no, I don't have a fake claim either but I am not scum so there's that...

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #42 (isolation #8) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:04 pm

it certainly was not random

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #50 (isolation #9) » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:03 am

Serious question. If you don't have your gender showing under your avatar, and your name doesn't sound feminine. How are we to know you are a girl?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #64 (isolation #10) » Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:49 pm

vote: Tcold

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #73 (isolation #11) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:34 am

let's unstall it. vote Tcold

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #77 (isolation #12) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:43 am

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #92 (isolation #13) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:49 am

That's why we need to run someone up. Best way to generate discussion is putting pressure on them.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #94 (isolation #14) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:56 am

Read my first sentence again.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #95 (isolation #15) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:58 am

And I'm sick of people saying "if you say it then it defeats the purpose" yet has obviously missed an opportunity to apply pressure on someone.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #96 (isolation #16) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:13 am

In post 83, TCold wrote:Pretty much the same thing. I find it odd that he wouldn't post in this thread since it's most likely the least demanding of all the games he plays.

So if it's odd that he's not posting here Why aren't you voting him?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #112 (isolation #17) » Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:04 am

In post 105, Aeronaut wrote:I feel like doing it to TCold right now doesn't make sense since he is away, so there's nobody to pressure.

he wasn't away when I posted it...

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #114 (isolation #18) » Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:50 am

I think tcolD is scummy

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #117 (isolation #19) » Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:54 am

Gut? Lack of scum hunting? No signs of pro-town behavior yet? Take your pick

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #120 (isolation #20) » Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:57 am

Salures could be scum but leaning town. If I die though I endorse his lynch.

The rest I don't have an opinion cause they aren't posting. I'm fine with a lurker pl btw, it puts the others on notice that they could be next.

P.edit - I voted him for my new favorite expression. To make the monkey dance.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #124 (isolation #21) » Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:24 am

In post 121, saulres wrote:I don't know what that means.

When you voted him, did you think he was scum for the reasons you gave in 117?

did the site locked up for a second or something? :shrug:

anyways

that expression just means put pressure on him to see how he responds/reacts.

I voted him originally for gut, he was spending too much time worrying about his name and he asked other people for their reads, yet wasn't giving any of his own. Since then he still has done nothing. I even pointed out that he found someone not posting here as being odd, but he didn't even do anything about it. I asked him why he didn't do anything and he didn't even answer me instead he goes on v/la.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #126 (isolation #22) » Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:46 am

Doesn't need to make sense to you, just needs to make sense to me.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #128 (isolation #23) » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:19 am

I have already given my opinion of salures. You I'm not sure about yet cause I usually read you as scum. I'd have to read aero's ISO again cause tbh I haven't paid that much attention to him.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #132 (isolation #24) » Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:03 am

Which ones look opportunistic and why?

Why is tcold not scummy to you?

P.edit - idk what you are asking me but I'm in the process of leaving work so ill re-read your post later.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #158 (isolation #25) » Sun Sep 29, 2013 2:40 am

So salures you did roll scum , such a Shame. We had such potential.

For reasons I can't go into, I am not lynching you today but your buddy can go.

vote: skelda

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #166 (isolation #26) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:20 am

In post 161, Skelda wrote:
In post 158, Jake from State Farm wrote:So salures you did roll scum , such a Shame. We had such potential.

For reasons I can't go into, I am not lynching you today but your buddy can go.

vote: skelda
Why am I his buddy?

Cause your interactions don't seem genuine and your unvote was weird

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #167 (isolation #27) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:23 am

Can we get a replacement for phok?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #172 (isolation #28) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:48 am

In post 169, ArcAngel9 wrote:Jake, you're still due responding to my post. And who are your top scum reads?

forgot all about it, let me go find it now

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #173 (isolation #29) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:11 am

In post 131, ArcAngel9 wrote:Jake, you usually read me scum. Have we ever been in a game where i was scum?
how are you concluding that statement? I am wondering if there is any strong reference for that blind conclusion becuz as far as i knew i never played as scum with you in the any of the games we have been before.

in hindsight idk why you are pressuring me to answer these questions, none of them are important enough to force me to go back and answer.

1. I don't know why you are asking me questions you already know the answer to. No we have never played where you were scum.

2.

In post 128, Jake from State Farm wrote:You I'm not sure about yet

obviously this means NULL read towards you. I'm sorry if i didn't spell it out as I thought it was fairly obvious.

3. Your last one is kind of confusing to me, why are you asking me about my conclusion, when you don't even know what it is? Why does it seem like you are afraid i am scum reading because this quote

becuz as far as i knew i never played as scum with you in the any of the games we have been before.

reads scared to me. Why are you scared of my read on you?

My current scum reads are already in the thread. I have 1 town read and sadly it's umbrage

other than that everyone else is null with Tcold leaning scum also. Though your fear of my read bothers me so now you are on the slight scum side but I am not as worried about you atm.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #175 (isolation #30) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:44 am

I'm sorry but most of the early part of 174 I am completely confused what you are trying to say so I will just answer the parts I do understand and we can work from there.

yes I mentioned earlier that I usually read you as scum, and right after that I said that I am not sure which means you are NULL. There was never an X to Y and back to X because I have never had you as a scum read this game, you have always been a null read until I read your post 131 more carefully. This statement is why I have you as slightly scummy

I am wondering if there is any strong reference for that blind conclusion becuz as far as i knew i never played as scum with you in the any of the games we have been before.

the reason why is because you seem afraid. if you are town i don't see why you would be afraid of me and my read towards you.

I have already given my opinion of Skelda and Salures. I think they are both scum.

I still have not read Aero's iso yet, I hope to eventually but not really motivated since I am voting who I think is scum.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #180 (isolation #31) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:03 am

Hey tcold, when are you going to post here?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #184 (isolation #32) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:02 pm

sounds like stalling to me...

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #186 (isolation #33) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:28 pm

where do you have experience with phokdapolees?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #189 (isolation #34) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:38 pm

yeah, going to call bullshit cause he is alive and his alignment is most likely unknown to you unless you (sorry mod, no more talking about ongoing games)

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #191 (isolation #35) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:59 pm

I believe he has only 1 completed game which is scum, and any other game you can't use as a reference.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #192 (isolation #36) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:01 pm

all of a sudden I feel much better about my vote on you

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #196 (isolation #37) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:10 pm

In post 194, Skelda wrote:
In post 192, Jake from State Farm wrote:all of a sudden I feel much better about my vote on you
And why is that?

because it looks like you are lying to try and clear that slot. And since the only usable evidence suggest you are lying and even the NOT usable evidence also suggests you are lying so no matter how you slice it it looks like you are lying.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #198 (isolation #38) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:35 pm

going to give you a stay of execution for a while, I am often known for getting sidetracked for stupid reasons and in the back of my mind I feel like this could be one of those times, I still think the likely hood of you being scum is definitely possible, I want to do this.

vote: slimer

dance monkey

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #207 (isolation #39) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:28 am

Can we just lynch him instead? Jesus this game. I am about to quit

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #211 (isolation #40) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:11 am

Aa. I didn't understand your question. You worded it better this time. Each game is different, in Bork game (think that's the first) I felt when we were in the lynch you or the other person, I felt the other player was townier plus your emotional plea always rubs me wrong. Idk why you do that but when someone thinks you are scum you lose it.

The AP game I actually didn't scum read you that much iirc cause I was caught up in the miller claims and the 2 hydra

The last game we played it was you replacing in and immediately going on v/la and when you returned you personally insulted me.

I don't just go. "Oh look its aa, she's always scum". My reads are based how you play. This game I'm torn cause I don't really see you doing anything pro town but not doing anything scummy. I'm also trying to not piss you off.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #213 (isolation #41) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:42 am

Oh yeah now I remember. Here is the thing about me. Town should never lie so...

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #214 (isolation #42) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:42 am

Tcold and slimer scum team?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #217 (isolation #43) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:23 pm

slimer logged in today and no damn posts. I'm sorry but it's time for a good ol fashioned policy lynch. You know you want to. It will also put the rest of the lurkers that they will be next.

At least let's put him to L-2

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #219 (isolation #44) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:41 pm

i'm about to replace out of this game.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #223 (isolation #45) » Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:53 am

Ok while we are waiting, umbrage you don't get a free pass anymore. Stop trolling and post.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #224 (isolation #46) » Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:03 am

Slimer if you are town, post game I'm reporting you and asking for a

permanent

month long game ban. Logged in again this morning and nothing. You were a replacement. That means you ASKED to play and aren't.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #226 (isolation #47) » Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:54 am

Welcome. Sooner than later if possible.

Stay active please ( begging)

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #235 (isolation #48) » Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:31 am

didn't the mod ask everyone to vote on the change? the mod said 66% needed to say yes to change it.

mod, did every person vote before you made the rule change?

if NO then you sadly need to go back to the old rule.

@ evil - you are right, I should vote someone scummy. how about I vote you? you are pretty scummy thus far

but slimer is scummy also...

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #237 (isolation #49) » Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:42 am

it changed when I felt like you were stalling, remember I even called you out on it?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #238 (isolation #50) » Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:47 am

which I still don't think you have done, at least not that I can see from any of your posts after that.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #240 (isolation #51) » Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:58 am

that's fine.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #255 (isolation #52) » Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:19 am

I think I am already voting slimer and I am already on record for supporting a goat lynch so I'm good with either of those names.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #256 (isolation #53) » Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:19 am

and for god sakes if I can put my differenes with AA9 aside, Nexus can certainly get over his and start generating content.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #261 (isolation #54) » Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:56 am

In post 257, Nexus wrote:Skelda over slimer, please.

Jake - this is my play style and I've explained why Skelda is scum. You can either get on it or ignore it. I suggest the former.

but that is all you have done, commented on 1 player and the rest is blech

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #267 (isolation #55) » Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:50 am

In post 265, uctriton00 wrote:And I like Nexus because I like his case on Skelda.

slimer looks like a policy lynch on activity which makes no sense.

In a game where half the player list is lurking, it absolutely is a good idea.

Lol at a lurker being against a lurker lynch. Who would have thought...

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #270 (isolation #56) » Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:13 am

oh i'm flipping a shit.

2nd attempt at stalling

vote: evil

stall me once shame on me
stall me twice, hang from a tree

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #273 (isolation #57) » Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:34 am

I guess I'm going to keep stalling cause twice I have asked her to do what she said she was going to do and twice she has avoided it. Goatboy can hang tomorrow

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #276 (isolation #58) » Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:08 am

I saw that

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #280 (isolation #59) » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:25 am

you said you were going to use meta to tie up some basic behaviors and as far as I can tell you haven't done that.

I just had a huge post but I deleted it. this game isn't worth my time anymore.

unvote

later

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #289 (isolation #60) » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:22 am

In post 288, Nexus wrote:Slimer please stop with the shitty posts. Thanks.

Makes a shitty post to tell someone not to make a shitty post

Classic

I was literally done with this game and wasn't going to come back but then I'd be no better than the people I'm bitching about. If day 2 isn't better ill save everyone time and replace out.

Now on to goat, what's the milkman's name? And a movie about cats and you get a human?

Meh

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #294 (isolation #61) » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:41 am

vote : goat[/ b]

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #295 (isolation #62) » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:45 am

This new keyboard on ios7 and my fat thumb don't mix

vote: Goat aka skelda

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #296 (isolation #63) » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:45 am

This new keyboard on ios7 and my fat thumb don't mix

vote: Goat aka skelda

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #299 (isolation #64) » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:17 pm

In post 260, Umbrage wrote:also any doctors in this game target me please

Please god if we have one, don't do this. Don't save the troll

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #308 (isolation #65) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:30 pm

there wouldn't be just 1 neighbor.

vote: nexus

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #310 (isolation #66) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:26 am

Yep one if umbrage/ nexus / uct is probably scum. Once I comb through uct's games to see if he's actually ignorant to neighbors or faking I'll reassess but nexus lurks as scum and he has lurked this game. So he gets my vote.

Though I'd certainly entertain an umbrage lynch cause your contributions have been shit

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #311 (isolation #67) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:38 am

So looks like I can't find any mention of neighbors in any of his posts so I can concede that he is legitimately ignorant to the fact what neighbors are.

My top 2 right now are probably nexus/ evil with AA9 possibly replacing evil. The fact she disappeared towards the end of day 1 worries me

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #312 (isolation #68) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:41 am

@umbrage if you honestly try to tell me that post was a scum post we are just gonna have to lynch you now as that would be a scum claim by you. Him not knowing what neighbors are is null and in no way did that post imply he was upset

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #313 (isolation #69) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:20 am

you know what, Saulres wanted to lynch slimer and that was his only real focus other than a brief question of umbrage so let's poke at him for a bit

vote: slimer

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #315 (isolation #70) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:51 am

Not sure if you realize it but that's a good catch actually. How would umbrage know the other neighbor was a townie...

Neighbors are unknown to each other and certainly aren't guaranteed to be town/ town
Slip ?

vote: umbrage

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #317 (isolation #71) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:53 am

But his play also suggests scum rather town.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #321 (isolation #72) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:57 am

Early on I was too but I've seen so many scum do what he did. He basically skates through the day trying to act like he's confirmed town and directing PRs onto himself. I don't see any genuine scum hunting no real explanations for his reads and general trolling. All suggest scum rather town

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #324 (isolation #73) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:40 am

In post 322, Umbrage wrote:neighbours have confirmation of alignment

why you lying?

To contrast,
the standard term for players who do not know each others' alignments
but can speak to each other privately is Neighbors.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #325 (isolation #74) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:41 am

In post 323, Nexus wrote:I don't know how you can read AA9. All I want to do when I read her posts is

which makes it hard to form a judgement.

interesting enough that is how I feel with your contributions...

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #330 (isolation #75) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:00 am

1, posts don't necessarily need to have substance to be considered productive, they do need to show than an effort is being made to find scum and the following posts reflect that from me.

96, 112, 117, 124, 132, 166, 173, 175, 180, 184, 186, 189, 191

I could go on but seriously why do I have to cause that is already more scum hunting related posts than you have made.

and post 327 doesn't impress me from you because you recently used the "no analysis" line as scum and I have seen no differences between those 2 games. Lack of scum hunting? check lurking? check.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #332 (isolation #76) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:08 am

Which is why I'm not voting you right now. Umbrage essentially claimed scum so he's today's lynch

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #334 (isolation #77) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:57 am

He Needs to post more

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #336 (isolation #78) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:08 am

I don't like that he promises to do better day 2, logs in shortly after day starts, doesn't post a damn thing.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #337 (isolation #79) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:10 am

How can I have a solid read on him ? He's no different from you, evil , aa9, and uct. I can't policy lynch all of you

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #339 (isolation #80) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:03 pm

You may as well just self vote. You are caught scum

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #341 (isolation #81) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:41 pm

I mean you took a harmless statement and twisted it into something scummy, not to mention you totally lied to cover up your slip that the other neighbor is town.

No other lynch is happening today. Sorry big boy.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #342 (isolation #82) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:07 pm

let's see what else I can add.

you give no reasonings for your reads and you basically call all the better players town, possible buddying
you back off skelda for what you see as a town tell, yet you vote him again calling him the worst. If a player commits something you see as a town tell, there is no way he can be the worst.
you say salures could be scum but don't say why the change of heart
you sheep nexus and at the same time say the vig should shoot him.

none of this = pro town play

now everyone vote umbrage or I will REALLY make this game annoying to play.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #344 (isolation #83) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:17 pm

oh I am serious as a heart attack. and the rest of my argument is not dumb as fuck and I would appreciate it if you would not down grade it like that.

die scum die

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #346 (isolation #84) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:26 pm

prove you are town, vote umbrage

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #347 (isolation #85) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:28 pm

how do you know salures believed I was town?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #351 (isolation #86) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:20 pm

Evil, I thought you were going to meta people and look for basic behaviors, what happened with that?

back to umbrage, one thing I noticed is (and this could be no big deal but since people are suspicious of slimer) twice when somebody voted slimer, umbrage pops in shortly after and votes somebody else. I mean he does vote slimer at one point also but it only lasted about 30 minutes and totally looked like distancing.

slimer/umbrage pair is possible

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #354 (isolation #87) » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:08 am

In post 352, Umbrage wrote:plz point to where I lied k thx

easy

In post 322, Umbrage wrote:neighbours have confirmation of alignment

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #355 (isolation #88) » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:20 am

I can't believe I have to say that post was 90% facetious, but that post was 90% facetious. "why does there have to be a second neighbour" is a stupid question and I gave a stupid response

I don't believe this for a minute

I call most of the players town because most of the players are town.

That's how mafia works.

as for reasoning I provided reasoning for every one of my votes, if you're looking for a big checklist of scumtells, sorry, scumtells don't work in my experience

1. that could also easily be buddying. You don't give your reasons why these people were town, especially since some of them were obviously NOT town.
2. if we are being technical, You didn't give a reason for your nexus vote and I don't consider quoting Slimer's catchup posts as a legitimate reason either.

every player does some scummy things and some townie things

how many games have you played, Jake?

right but when you say a player has done a town tell by the very definition that player is town. your 180 makes no sense

idk, lots? multiple account names dating back to 2010, easily 75+ games

I just meant that your case on him kind of made sense - like there was a slight chance he could be scum even though my gut was screaming town

I never made a case on Salures...

Sheep? I LED the Skelda wagon, biotch. you can call me scum but don't you dare call me sheep

you lead shit because your reason wasn't good enough to begin with, you left the wagon calling him town and you join it because you sheeped nexus so baa

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #357 (isolation #89) » Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:41 am

could it be I am right? wow I really hope I am right.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #359 (isolation #90) » Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:54 am

slimer, give me some post numbers of some REALLY TOWN AA9 posts

also she WAS really active, towards the end of day 1 when a mislynch was about to happen, her activity dropped

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Explain/show to me the clear line of logic in Nexus's posts cause I certainly don't see any sort of logic in his posts

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So you think if umbrage is scum, I am scum with him? that makes no sensebut ok

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You say Tcold was already scum, in one of your catchup posts you call him scum also I don't see where you really gave a good reason other than him going on v/la (which he actually did site wide) and coming back thinking AA9 was scum.

That was your only reason. seems to me you are looking for an easy target and tcold/uct based on their activity are certainly an easy target.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #360 (isolation #91) » Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:02 am

not to mention that post is just a wall full of fluff. Why aren't you interacting with people? Asking questions? scum hunting? I mean absolutely nothing you have posted resembles what I would expect from a townie.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #366 (isolation #92) » Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:14 am

99.9% of the time they do yeah

99.9 % of the time they may actually be town/town but they certainly are never confirmed town to each other. I have used neighbors before as a mod, I have even been neighbors before on more than 1 occasion, and I have been in games where there were neighbors and NEVER were they confirmed to each other. if you want to say I am wrong, you are going to have to find a game where the neighbors were confimed town to each other. Confirmed neighbors are called Masons.

ok if you think that when I accused a person of being scum on a mostly bullshit tell then completely switched targets in the same post I was being 100% serious I can't stop you

well to be quite honest and frank, you don't really make any sense when you post. That is why I have tried to get you to actually explain yourself better yet for some reason you continue to avoid doing that...

skipping the spoiler for now, short on time

no a single town tell does not mean 100% CONFIRMED TOWN YIPPEE

and you voted Skelda too so either the town tell wasn't very strong or you're scum by your own logic

right but you don't essentially call someone town and do a 180 because you don't have better reads, which is what you did. Also I don't think I ever said he committed a town tell so why are you mentioning my vote? I don't believe I ever called or implied skelda was town

thanks for proving I didn't make a case on salures though, i appreciate pointing out your own mistake

I wasn't on the skelda wagon for sheeping, I had reasons unlike you. sheeping onto a mislynch is bad, doing it so you can later point the finger at the person you sheeped is scum.

and no scum aren't the only one who tunnel vison, but nice try. I tunnel vison super hard regardless of alignment. Some people actually hate me because i can't ever get out of tunnel mode but

for you trying to use that to imply I'm scum tunneling.

Umbrage gets rope now please or I will just have to fake claim cop with a guilty

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #370 (isolation #93) » Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:42 am

Why would I make a rock solid case against you for a reaction test? Lol umbrage your scum game needs work. If you are town then your town game REALLY needs work.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #371 (isolation #94) » Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:42 am

In post 369, uctriton00 wrote:so you have slimer as town? slimer hasn't done jack diddly and is now trying to clown vote me

Keep up. Slimer is his buddy

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #376 (isolation #95) » Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:13 pm

Oh I've posted more than that but lol@you to pretend I haven't.

I'm the most obv town in the game and your vote on me is just another strike against you.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #379 (isolation #96) » Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:38 pm

No you see you ARE getting lynched today. You can ignore all my case but the most glaring strike against you is sheeping nexus and blaming him when he's wrong. Taking the responsibility completely off yourself.

If umbrage isn't getting lynched then you better all lynch me cause I'm not going to go another day phase with caught scum that town wanted to derp on.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #380 (isolation #97) » Wed Oct 09, 2013 1:15 pm

Umbrage, have you always thought apathy was a town tell?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #382 (isolation #98) » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:44 pm

You are the scum on the lynch

Now why would you lie about the apathy question, I'll never know

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #388 (isolation #99) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:40 am

In post 386, uctriton00 wrote:
In post 379, Jake from State Farm wrote:If umbrage isn't getting lynched then you better all lynch me cause I'm not going to go another day phase with caught scum that town wanted to derp on.
NO

I've seen that enough on mafiascum where someone tries to offer themselves up for a lynch; if you're town then don't invite yourself on a lynch.

I'm not going to play day 3 with umbrage still alive so...

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #390 (isolation #100) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:52 am

If you don't get lynched today I absolutely will

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #395 (isolation #101) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:12 am

In post 392, Umbrage wrote:
In post 382, Jake from State Farm wrote:You are the scum on the lynch

Now why would you lie about the apathy question, I'll never know
I have no idea why you think I lied about that because it's something I've used for many games as scum and town

but then you're pretty deluded anyways so I guess I'm not surprised

Yet I found a game where as town you specifically said apathy was a null tell so...

I have come to the conclusion you are probably a pathological liar and lying isn't alignment related.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #397 (isolation #102) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:23 am

In post 391, Umbrage wrote:Jake: YOU NEVER EXPLAIN YOURSELF THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SCUM

blatant misrep

see day 1 I had a town read on you but that slowly started to change and I have absolutely given reasons why you are scum.

1st reason - "cause your contributions have been shit" (post 310)
2nd reason - "How would umbrage know the other neighbor was a townie..." and "Neighbors are unknown to each other and certainly aren't guaranteed to be town/ town
Slip ?" (post 315)
3rd reason - But his play also suggests scum rather town. (post 317)
4th reason - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p5367988
5th reason - "I mean you took a harmless statement and twisted it into something scummy, not to mention you totally lied to cover up your slip that the other neighbor is town. " (post 341) Note you say that you were originally kidding but it wasn't obvious to me so :shrug:
6th reason - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p5368782
7th reason - you say this "Sheep? I LED the Skelda wagon, biotch. you can call me scum but don't you dare call me sheep" but earlier you said this "I let Nexus choose because I wanted to see who he chose (he chose a townie, how interesting) and because I wanted to get the fucking day over with" You were going to go with whatever Nexus chose by your own admission. THAT IS SHEEPING. And add insult to injury you blame him for being wrong and now think he is scum. THAT IS SCUM MOTIVATION.

so have a nice day sir. you ARE getting lynched today.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #398 (isolation #103) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:25 am

In post 396, Umbrage wrote:which game?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p3915674

APATHY IS A NULL TELL.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #400 (isolation #104) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:07 am

So why would you not call it a town tell? Srs question.

I don't strike you the type of person to care about bussing your partner. Plus was nexus even looking at your partner day 1? I don't remember. If not the likely hood of him naming him was very slim.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #401 (isolation #105) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:10 am

Yeah just checked, nexus was set on skelda so ofc you take that risk

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #407 (isolation #106) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:02 am

Damn you are playing just like that newbie game nexus

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #409 (isolation #107) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:06 am

vote: nexus

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #410 (isolation #108) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:06 am

Not going to fool me twice

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #412 (isolation #109) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:20 am

you keep saying 1 game meta wooo

but you forget I have played with you TWICE where you were scum and both times you lurked. The first you lied about being v/la and the second you were the IC where IC's aren't supposed to lurk.

so yeah, you are an acceptable mislynch if you are town, though i don't think you are. I think you use lurking and lack of content as a scum strategy.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #418 (isolation #110) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:10 am

I am sorry, it was of my opinion you were faking. I had no way to verify it at the time and that was how i felt, especially considering your flip of being mafia. i also remember checking your iso on site and seeing you post elsewhere around the same time which made me doubt you were on v/la

if you were legitimately on v/la I apologize.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #439 (isolation #111) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:56 pm

doctor and protective neighbors? nope.jpg

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #440 (isolation #112) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:58 pm

i'm protesting this game btw, I just wanted to chime in on that

bye

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #443 (isolation #113) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:38 pm

are you kidding me? nexus violated site rules and insulted me at the same time because of an opinion I had and when I apologized for upsetting him he responded with fuck you, and then we have the mod who ignored it. Nexus should have been mod killed or force replaced and nexus should also be punished by the site mods like they do with anyone else who violate site rules.

so go ahead and lynch me because I am keeping true to my earlier comment where I said I won't request to replace out but if the mod wants to force replace me then that is up to him.

there is no way that there is a doctor AND protective neighbors. that is essentially 2 full protective roles and I am not buying that for a minute.

so lynch me I don't give a rats ass, but when I flip town lynch umbrage and his bullshit claim tomorrow.

I don't get how the fuck we have a game with cats and everyone is claiming human names.

I have issue with the Edger claim as well because Edger was trying to get rid of the cats.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #469 (isolation #114) » Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:18 pm

I don't care if you lynch me because the mod sucks and will be reported post game and nexus can go diaf

@ nexus - to correct you a bit. I apologized to you and you respond with a "FUCK YOU" to me. Apologizing AFTER that you may as well go try and apologize to a brick wall cause it's sure as hell not going to be believed by me.

Umbrage's claim is bullshit because of the protective neighbors. Go to OP and look at Salures role. See the word protective? click on that and guess where it takes you. It takes you to the Doctor page. So that means what I was already trying to tell you people. They are/were doctors.

so Protective neighbors AND a doctor role for town?

personally I don't believe it.

lynch umbrage imo

why should you not lynch me? cause despite being pissed off and wanting to protest this game, I am still the person making more sense then the remainder of you.

and seriously, unless you are lying, you are at L-1 and you really want to risk fucking with a pissed off person right now? I could hammer your ass and not give a flying fuck what you flipped. so put your vote back on umbrage

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #470 (isolation #115) » Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:20 pm

In post 452, Nexus wrote:But bare in mind my flavour knowledge is minimal - I watched the Aristocats once and hated it. ALSO the two flips we've had are both town,
and both humans
, as is the sample role PM.

bolded is wrong. Salures wasn't a human. reading is fundamental

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #471 (isolation #116) » Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:28 pm

In post 469, Jake from State Farm wrote:They are/were doctors. so Protective neighbors AND a doctor role for town?

the only thing nobody knows except the other neighbor is if the protective role disappears when salures is dead or if the remaining neighbor still have protective ability. We know Umbrage isn't the other neighbor cause he would have said he was and if he tries to say he is now after I am pointing this out = a lie.

good night

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #478 (isolation #117) » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:16 am

In post 475, uctriton00 wrote:Slimer who said anything about a cop?
Umbrage there already was a doctor (unless protective role wasn't protective?)
And no I haven't seen hated townies; the only hated roles I've seen where during a marathon game I think where mod was giving people hated things because they wouldn't say first (Jake pretty sure you were in that game)

Mod must have handed out jester roles tbqh

I have never played a marathon game in my life

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #482 (isolation #118) » Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:52 am

How u gonna soak the nk when you are getting lynched?

Yes we are lynching the fake claimed dr cause we already have a confirmed doctor

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #484 (isolation #119) » Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:05 am

Damn dude you are scummy as fuck

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #486 (isolation #120) » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:19 am

all your posts read scummy, your interaction regarding umbrage's claim is also really strange. not to mention that umbrage/me makes absolutely no sense as a scum pairing

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #489 (isolation #121) » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:43 am

I'm being an asshole cause I don't believe your claim? No bullshit. Your claim is FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE AS FUCK

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #490 (isolation #122) » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:44 am

And I don't really need to have anything on you but I do actually.

Your play suggests you are scum as I have ALREADY EXPLAINED LIKE FUCKING AGES AGO

Jake from State Farm · Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:17 am

btw, saying "you have nothing on me" is scum speak

Jake from State Farm · Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:17 am

I don't care what you do, you are scum so all you have to do is just die

Jake from State Farm · Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:18 am

only guilty people say "you don't have anything on me"

innocent people would accuse the person of lying because they know they are innocent and HAVE to be lying. Innocent people wouldn't have anything to be pinned on them cause they are...

wait for it

keep waiting

INNOCENT.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #497 (isolation #126) » Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:22 pm

so self vote

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #498 (isolation #127) » Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:25 pm

you have essentially cc'd something proven to already exist which makes you a liar.

also you aren't going to die tonight cause you are scum

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #499 (isolation #128) » Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:32 pm

if I hammer slimer and he flips town and you somehow live, you gonna self vote?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #500 (isolation #129) » Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:51 pm

also riddle me this

If slimer is scum, who is his partner if it isn't you?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #502 (isolation #130) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:14 am

I don't like the fact that at least twice AA9 has said there is no rush, we have time yet has lurked and done absolutely nothing. Not to mention did AA9 really want everyone to claim? wtf

nexus still is lurking despite his unacceptable temper tantrum and if he is town, well I won't say what i will do because he will have another temper tantrum

uctrion posts useless shit

and umbrage has cc'd the confirmed protective role

seriously wtf am I the only town in this game? is this some bastard traitor setup or something?

no fucking way any of these people are town

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #503 (isolation #131) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:24 am

In post 449, Nexus wrote:In what way did I violate the site rules?

Basic Conduct
Do not make any post or start any thread with the intent to insult or offend any other user on this site.
Do not make any post or start any thread that abuses or harasses another user.

you swivel on it

in your next posts I want something useful from you because I can't remember when you have posted something useful. You aren't voting and we have 3 days to deadline. Who are your top reads? why are they your top reads? do you believe slimer's claim, do you believe umbrages claim? why or why not to both

btw, I will ignore umbrage for now, I am on record saying the claim is fake but nobody wants to listen to me so fuck it, at least get rid of this useless MFer

vote: nexus

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #504 (isolation #132) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:41 am

And before you bust a brain vessel, about me calling you lurking. I feel you are being active enough compared to others, but not actually playing the game. Hence why I asked for reads and shit. Deja vu? It's just like the newbie game

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #506 (isolation #133) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:25 am

Damn I forgot about evil.

Smh so many anti town players

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #508 (isolation #134) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:57 am

Oh please, of course you get prodded on weekends.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #510 (isolation #135) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:49 am

Nah, I decided I'm gonna let scum umbrage hang himself. I'm still torn on slimer. I think if he's town then scum is afraid to hammer and be on the wagon with umbrage. If he's scum then his partner is probably on the wagon already.

I think town gains much more info with your lynch since I don't see why you as town would mirror your scum play. You obviously think you can manipulate me again.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #513 (isolation #136) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:50 pm

In post 507, ArcAngel9 wrote:catching up now...

now adverb \ˈnau̇\
: at the present time

: in the next moment : very soon

: in the present situation

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #515 (isolation #137) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:51 pm

I actually didn't call you a lurker. I just said I forgot about you which doesn't bode well if you are town.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #516 (isolation #138) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:56 pm

In post 514, Evil Regals wrote:Slimer you said you don't believe Umbrage's claim yet you haven't revoted him. I think you are scared of negative feedback if this goes bad for you.

Good to know jake hates everyone. Stop calling me a lurker. You can see when I log on -- everytime I log on; I post.

but since you are logged on please post A LOT MORE. Time is running out and if you keep posting stuff like this one, it doesn't give me a good feeling about you.

do you believe the claim? why or why not?

thoughts about slimer's claim?

thoughts, your OWN thoughts about anything else?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #517 (isolation #139) » Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:34 am

In post 514, Evil Regals wrote:You can see when I log on -- everytime I log on; I post.

well not every time...

Logged on - Tue Oct 15, 2013 12:28:37 am

surely you can understand my frustration when you show up and post 1 content related sentence and nothing else when we have deadline 3 days away. Where is your sense of urgency? Town should absolutely have a sense of urgency at this point.

i am seriously about done with this game

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #524 (isolation #140) » Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:45 am

Umbrage. I'm the lone townie and the rest of you are obviously different mafia. I can't win

I mean that's literally the only thing to explain the way people are behaving.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #526 (isolation #141) » Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:50 am

your lynch is still on the table and I would also entertain an AA9 lynch due to her stalling/inactivity near deadline when she was the one telling people we had plenty of time.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #527 (isolation #142) » Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:55 am

Btw what kind of townie would ask that question? If you want someone else lynched make a freaking case and try to convince people smh

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #530 (isolation #143) » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:11 am

In post 527, Jake from State Farm wrote:Btw what kind of townie would ask that question? If you want someone else lynched make a freaking case and try to convince people smh

This is a serious question. I expect an answer

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #531 (isolation #144) » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:12 am

Correction answer and action

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #534 (isolation #145) » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:19 am

how is that fencepost feeling?

I mean it's pretty obvious unless someone starts posting a convincing case on an alternative person, the only 2 people up for lynch are umbrage and slimer.

so if you are holding back and you want someone else lynched, this is the time to start making that case. If you don't have an alternative then shame on you if you are town.

why are you trying to generate discussion now? where was this urge a week ago?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #535 (isolation #146) » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:21 am

In post 528, Nexus wrote:I thought you were convinced of AA9's towniness?

I don't believe I ever said this.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #537 (isolation #147) » Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:00 am

Umbrage, you don't find it odd that nexus is trying not to vote you/ slimer but won't give us an alternative name?

Jake from State Farm · Tue Oct 15, 2013 12:52 pm

that cop/doc thing doesn't look genuine at all, what other town slips has slimer done

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #597 (isolation #149) » Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:18 am

lurkers

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #600 (isolation #150) » Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:42 am

Well I guess AA9 was playing towards the useless part of the role pm

Slimer...

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #605 (isolation #151) » Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:04 am

Well it's been fun mafiascum but site meta has shifted to complete lurker acceptance and I can't play like that. If anyone know another site for mafia send me a pm

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #622 (isolation #152) » Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:56 pm

In post 553, ArcAngel9 wrote:Regals is been lurking entire day..and that wasn't helpful in anyway
Nexus, tell me why slimer is scum.. I feel it the scum is beteen regals and uct.

VOTE: Regals

This could easily said about you AA

Not to mention you have to convince people to listen to you. Something you didn't even attempt to do

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #623 (isolation #153) » Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:57 pm

Idk why that posted twice

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #626 (isolation #154) » Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:56 pm

^ this.

Sal, I wished I wasn't so paranoid cause we could have rocked this game had I not been so skeptical.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #630 (isolation #155) » Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:42 am

In post 629, Umbrage wrote:saulres was the only other non-shit player in the game

implying you weren't a shit player? yeah right.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #632 (isolation #156) » Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:51 am

salures get out of my head, you and I are agreeing on way to much stuff.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #634 (isolation #157) » Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:11 am

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #638 (isolation #158) » Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:27 am

Umbrage for scum MVP. Played against his wincon and cc'd the doc.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #642 (isolation #159) » Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:39 pm

In post 640, theslimer3 wrote:
In post 638, Jake from State Farm wrote:Umbrage for scum MVP. Played against his wincon and cc'd the doc.
we all have our methods and reasons for doing things. Dont blame him for something he didn't know/thought was a good idea.

What was your complaining about the setup doing? that fidnt help us catch Scum whatsoever

Lying as town is always a bad idea. I wasn't complaining about the setup, I was lynching scum who cc'd my role. Never thought for a minute scum was given a town role pm. Also I go to bed and wake up and umbrage was lynched, that wasn't my fault. Umbrage was scummy and he wasn't being helpful like town should.

I'm done talking about him. He's previously proven himself as a bad player and was actually already on my blacklist for a reason. I just really wanted to play this game so I ignored it. Never again though.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #645 (isolation #160) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:44 am

In post 636, Umbrage wrote:as literally the only person to suspect Evil yes

oh really?

so when I voted evil day 1 and you told me no that was the wrong vote, I was doing what? not suspecting her? lol

Salures, umbrage is trolling. he does it in every game. He doesn't give a rat's ass who wins as long as he can troll successfully. He was the exact same way in Disney mafia also.