Mini 1504 - Antihero Mafia REBOOT [GAME OVER]

[The Grim Reaper]

Beard = Thor is manly and probably smells faintly of bacon, and thus his opinion is right.

bullshit give me a proper reason... I've never played with you before and I've heard you are good. I also thought Mastin was good before playing with him and he was a bit of a disappointment. He didn't inherit a scummy slot when he replaced in... you did. Don't make me lynch your sorry ass due to bullshit reasoning like this as I will get even more disappointed with the so called elite members on this site :/

Ease of consensus - I have two players ripping at each other while *both* claim that this other player is the scum pal of the other. Hint: if either of you really think what you think, wouldn't that make him the obv. buddy that they are soft bussing? And if so, why not be willing to vote him to call their bluff at the very least? Heck, you have a built in person who should sheep your vote, already giving you one of the strongest wagons at the moment making it vastly more useful than what either of you are doing right now.

AP and us ripping into each other? Have you considered that both of us could be town and we both suspect wrongly that he is scum? Or that we both are scum and we are just playing you for a fool putting out scum lists with a common link to set up an easy mislynch?

Look Thor I want you to ISO Pasch and give me and Grim a good reason based on his play as to why he is scum. It shouldn't be too difficult.
~G

[The Grim Reaper]

Verily doth yon saucy maiden protest too much. Forsooth, i shalt quaff mine mead and ravish thee anon!

Oooh you're speaking in character from your comics now haha

[The Grim Reaper]

Ease of consensus - I have two players ripping at each other while *both* claim that this other player is the scum pal of the other. Hint: if either of you really think what you think, wouldn't that make him the obv. buddy that they are soft bussing? And if so, why not be willing to vote him to call their bluff at the very least? Heck, you have a built in person who should sheep your vote, already giving you one of the strongest wagons at the moment making it vastly more useful than what either of you are doing right now.

AP and us ripping into each other? Have you considered that both of us could be town and we both suspect wrongly that he is scum? Or that we both are scum and we are just playing you for a fool putting out scum lists with a common link to set up an easy mislynch?

~G

Or that one of us is town with a scum read on town and scum is going to facilitate a town mislynch by providing a list with an overlap as a nice easy target for a mislynch?

[Thor665]

bullSmurf give me a proper reason... I've never played with you before and I've heard you are good. I also thought Mastin was good before playing with him and he was a bit of a disappointment. He didn't inherit a scummy slot when he replaced in... you did. Don't make me lynch your sorry Smurf due to bullSmurf reasoning like this as I will get even more disappointed with the so called elite members on this site :/

I never claimed to be an elite member of anything - you projecting that onto me does not actually logically increase my need to "play better". Either I play well enough or I do not, but that doesn't mean i have a different level of play I am obligated to do.

Also, it is perfectly fine reasoning.

AP and us ripping into each other?

Yes.

Have you considered that both of us could be town and we both suspect wrongly that he is scum?

Of course - that is a possibility with all reads, that they are wrong. But if you always live with that fear it will paralyze ou. Do *you* think all your reads are wrong? If not, my logic holds.

Or that we both are scum and we are just playing you for a fool putting out scum lists with a common link to set up an easy mislynch?

I did not consider this because that would be a rather odd and strange play to manage to pull in the hopes of a replacement coming in and carrying it through for you.
Considering it, I will now dismiss it as rather silly.
My logic continues to hold.

Look Thor I want you to ISO Pasch and give me and Grim a good reason based on his play as to why he is scum. It shouldn't be too difficult.

Define 'difficult' It is certainly laborious enough that I probably won't bother simple because you want me to make a case on someone you are calling scummy.
My call had no bearing on what *I* thought of the slot - it had bearing on what you claim to think of the slot.
I do think the slot is scummy and worth pressuring, but if 'beard' isn't good enough for you than my current case isn't good enough for you and you should react as such, not make odd demands for me to make cases on people I'm not even voting. When I wish to make a case I shall, and it shall be short, and you may cuss at it then.

Until then, why are you unwilling to vote Pasch over AP?

[Thor665]

Or that one of us is town with a scum read on town and scum is going to facilitate a town mislynch by providing a list with an overlap as a nice easy target for a mislynch?

Or that he is scum and both of you are town.
Or that all three of you are town.
Or that one of you is scum soft bussing a scumbuddy.

Yes, I think that covers all the theoreticals outside of possible third party.
Now it's your job to decide which theoretical you believe is correct.
I am currently leaning one of the ones wherein Pasch is scum.
How about you?

[The Grim Reaper]

Go home Guyett, you're drunk. (though you make a good point about this overlap-thing)

We don't have a scumread on town. Angry Pidgeon is scum. He's bussing his partner (PAschendale) a bit right now. What you, and everyone, needs to realize is that over the course of two pages, Paschendale has featured in Angry Pidgeon's town, scum and murky-middle list. All three of them!

Quite astounding really.

Also Thor is town. Just like how Varsoon was. They both confirmed it, each in their own special way.

@Thor: Lynches shouldn't be based on overlaps in readslists. They should be based on the reads themselves and the arguments behind them. Paschendale isn't scum because Angry Pidgeon says he might be, he's scum for other reasons.
Reaching this consensus on PAschendale: I'd be fine with it, but I've reacched the point where I prefer a lynch on AP. This consensus thing mught muddy the waters further when PAschendale flips scum and AP gets towncred for it. He's already getting enough credit as it is.

GG

(@Antihero: I'll try to make you proud. It is merely enthousiasm for this wonderful game you've created that sometimes causes me to forget to log out of the GG-account and into this one)

[Grimgroove]

Town: Beauties, Majiffy, EtL, Pasch, Buck

Truth be told, I really need to pay more attention to you, pasch, and darthe. Kinda murky middle of people I don't know what to make of.

Grim/Pasch/Cat would make a lot of sense as a scumteam.

GG

[The Grim Reaper]

Town: Beauties, Majiffy, EtL, Pasch, Buck

Truth be told, I really need to pay more attention to you, pasch, and darthe. Kinda murky middle of people I don't know what to make of.

Grim/Pasch/Cat would make a lot of sense as a scumteam.

GG

(@Antihero: I'll try to make you proud. It is merely enthousiasm for this wonderful game you've created that sometimes causes me to forget to log out of the GG-account and into this one)

I'm a retard.

GG

[Lying Cat]

Welcome, Thor!

Why did you call out Beli in bold after stating this and not me?

THE SUMMONER regrets to inform you that due to cosmic radiation, his powers are only able to summon one entity at a time. However, THE SUMMONER would like to reassure you that he accounted for your jealous nature, and was confident that his tender attentions directed at another would draw your attention to the thread. Rest assured, if you had not responded, THE SUMMONER would have made you the next target of his incredible powers.

WHO SUMMONS ME?

Bro, is new day, bro. Want reads and ideas. Show of good faith: AP smells like he was used to prepare Kiviak, and Varsoon was being roleplayed by three fourth-graders in a trechcoat, who have now gone home. Unfortunately, they took the ball with them.

Call it gut, but I feel like LC is trying to hedge a scumread on me. He even opens today by calling out me/Beli (FnL suspects) and it just feels like fishing for which ML has the most support.

Hedge nothing. I'm

developing

a scumread on you. To be perfectly transparent, I would not be comfortable with voting either you or beli right now, and I'm equally uncomfortable with not having a real read on you. .: I want more content from both of you.

Can't stay on unfortunately, gtg to scouts

Jingle and I run a troop that meets on Tuesdays! When I'm not posting on the weekends, it's either because we're busy at work (and Jingle's not posting either) or I'm camping with the boys (and making Jingle cover for me.)

I can't articulate a single stance by Darthe, Lying Cat, or Buckwild that stood out to me. They need to take a stand on something.

"Bloop, bloop. I'm not going to scumread cat, but I'll lump him in with the worst lurkers, who I am scumreading. Ignore him when he calls me scum, plz. Bloop bloop."
VOTE: Pasch

Still happy with that.

-sthar8

[Thor665]

What you, and everyone, needs to realize is that over the course of two pages, Paschendale has featured in Angry Pidgeon's town, scum and murky-middle list. All three of them!

Quite astounding really.

I will go to church with you, print out fliers about how bad and anti-town this is, and distribute them around town.
That said...have you ever played with AP before?

@Thor: Lynches shouldn't be based on overlaps in readslists. They should be based on the reads themselves and the arguments behind them. Paschendale isn't scum because Angry Pidgeon says he might be, he's scum for other reasons.

Yes.
And both of you claim to have reached that conclusion.
And I never said that your overlap was the reason I found him scummish.
So...swing and a miss. This is meaningless.

Reaching this consensus on PAschendale: I'd be fine with it, but I've reacched the point where I prefer a lynch on AP. This consensus thing mught muddy the waters further when PAschendale flips scum and AP gets towncred for it. He's already getting enough credit as it is.

Why is he getting towncred and why is it not good towncred that he has earned?

[flying beauties]

I do have better things to do with my day then spend all day trying to deal with your and AP's parano-derp.
Yes, i play good scum.
Get over your bad selves and stop leaping at shadows and acting like it means something.

so are ap and I town?

Or that we both are scum and we are just playing you for a fool putting out scum lists with a common link to set up an easy mislynch?

I did not consider this because that would be a rather odd and strange play to manage to pull in the hopes of a replacement coming in and carrying it through for you.
Considering it, I will now dismiss it as rather silly.
My logic continues to hold.

freaking weird ass sentiment given the context of the discussion.

[The Grim Reaper]

Look Thor I want you to ISO Pasch and give me and Grim a good reason based on his play as to why he is scum. It shouldn't be too difficult.

Define 'difficult' It is certainly laborious enough that I probably won't bother simple because you want me to make a case on someone you are calling scummy.
My call had no bearing on what *I* thought of the slot - it had bearing on what you claim to think of the slot.
I do think the slot is scummy and worth pressuring, but if 'beard' isn't good enough for you than my current case isn't good enough for you and you should react as such, not make odd demands for me to make cases on people I'm not even voting. When I wish to make a case I shall, and it shall be short, and you may cuss at it then.

Until then, why are you unwilling to vote Pasch over AP?

Oh we have reasons for calling him scummy. We (grim) have posted them before in the thread but I (Guyett) would like to hear your reasoning behind him behind him(pasch) being scum. I don't entirely trust you based on the varsoon messing and your willingness to sheep right from the off if I'm perfectly frank.
I just want to know why you're standing where you are... Is that understandable...
~G

[Thor665]

so are ap and I town?

Maybe.
But if you're scum faking it you're allowed to drop it too.

freaking weird Smurf sentiment given the context of the discussion.

Actually...no it wasn't.

[Thor665]

Oh we have reasons for calling him scummy. We (grim) have posted them before in the thread but I (Guyett) would like to hear your reasoning behind him behind him(pasch) being scum. I don't entirely trust you based on the varsoon messing and your willingness to sheep right from the off if I'm perfectly frank.
I just want to know why you're standing where you are... Is that understandable...

Perfectly understandable.
Which is why I've told you where I'm standing.

[flying beauties]

so are ap and I town?

Maybe.
But if you're scum faking it you're allowed to drop it too.

freaking weird Smurf sentiment given the context of the discussion.

Actually...no it wasn't.

faking what?

[flying beauties]

eta: and drop what?

[The Grim Reaper]

Ok Thor you may sheep us if you want

VOTE: pasch

Grim has posted our case on him numerous times and this is one if a few reads we 100% agree on.

Ap can wait for a while but he certainly is on our scumdar.
~G

[Thor665]

Unvote: Whoever it was Var was voting
Vote: Pasch

Baaa.

[Lying Cat]

Hey so I think that's L-1. While I am super excited to kill pasch dead, I think we need a claim and for everyone else to check in before we actually lynch him.

-sthar8

[Paschendale]

Wait, seriously? I'm racking up votes with those kinds of retarded reasons? Grim is pissy because I don't want to argue with them about nothing. Lying Cat is attacking me for null reading them. Thor, you don't even have a reason for voting me. Darthe doesn't offer a reason. Nor does Majiffy. I don't even have anything to refute.

Obviously full of scum wagon is full of scum.

[Lying Cat]

^strawman. Not worth responding to. Claim please.

[flying beauties]

why is thor dodging my questions?

discuss

[Thor665]

Wait, seriously? I'm racking up votes with those kinds of retarded reasons? Grim is pissy because I don't want to argue with them about nothing. Lying Cat is attacking me for null reading them. Thor, you don't even have a reason for voting me. Darthe doesn't offer a reason. Nor does Majiffy. I don't even have anything to refute.

Obviously full of scum wagon is full of scum.

Which of us are scum and which are town?

why is thor dodging my questions?

discuss

Oh, the question where you forgot our conversation line one response in and wanted me to restate it for the benefit of the answer to the question you just asked me?

Probable Reason: Hatred of bad play.

[Lying Cat]

Lazy? I don't think he's read the thread yet. There's a lot to read and I'm down with giving him some time. Varsoon going to live with a nice family on a farm was pretty null to me anyway.

[Lying Cat]

EBWOP: the above is directed at beauties.