That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. So until someone else takes the crown...In post 215, Smudger wrote: really, yes really, its not what you are saying is what you are trying not to say that is concerning me...
VOTE: Smudger
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. So until someone else takes the crown...In post 215, Smudger wrote: really, yes really, its not what you are saying is what you are trying not to say that is concerning me...
Hi guys, i'd like you all to take a minute and read over my past posts. I think everyone is confusing "noob" for "stupid".In post 203, Peabody wrote:Naio,
Do you mind explaining how you went from a scum read on me to a scum read on slimer? I see that you originally voted him for inconsistency concerning how many games he played. Is that the sole reason you voted him? What about Slimer's posting has solidified your scum reading of him?
You're correct, my original scum on slimer was that i thought i caught him in a lie when he said it was his first game, and then he said he played all the time. I didn't realize it was just a really poor attempt at being funny. Once that was cleared up I no longer had a scummy read on him (which is why i changed my vote, just didn't realize it was past the deadline) until he started calling me out here on Day 2. My scum read on him at this point is that he's trying to throw what he THINKS are "noob mistakes" under the bus, but he is confusing 'noob' with 'stupid' - as i explained above.In post 203, Peabody wrote:Naio,
Do you mind explaining how you went from a scum read on me to a scum read on slimer? I see that you originally voted him for inconsistency concerning how many games he played. Is that the sole reason you voted him? What about Slimer's posting has solidified your scum reading of him?
Did find this, though. Might be interesting to take another look at in hindsight.In post 68, SplashMaster wrote: We should call this game SE vs. Newbies because there is certainly a divide between the two! Smudger and Peabody don't like me, aphix doesn't like smudger, naio doesn't like peabody, and I don't like anyone! I think that, for balance reasons, the scumteam would be comprised of newbies and seasoned players alike, so this can't be the case, though.
It could, Obviously Scum found Aphix to be a threat of some kind. That or he may have thought them town and they felt it worth it to kill him to give them town cred. It's a two sided sword.In post 229, scotpgot wrote:So does the Aphix murder on its own tell us anything?
I guess that's a general game-play question for TAM, and also a specific to this game question for anybody.
Okay, the first mistake you listed (And the reason we use "n00b" is because it's rare for an experienced player to make those kind of mistakes for no reason. (And even still you were trying to achieve something towards the lynch.) and I would have barely classified it as a mistake.In post 226, Naio wrote:Hi guys, i'd like you all to take a minute and read over my past posts. I think everyone is confusing "noob" for "stupid".In post 203, Peabody wrote:Naio,
Do you mind explaining how you went from a scum read on me to a scum read on slimer? I see that you originally voted him for inconsistency concerning how many games he played. Is that the sole reason you voted him? What about Slimer's posting has solidified your scum reading of him?
I made 2 mistakes. I made a "noob" mistake by voting after the deadline had passed, which i did not realize. I made a 2nd "noob" mistake not realizing that there were 2 cells with "mafia goon" in them, meaning that my theory about cop/tracker was just bollocks. (okay mistake 3 maybe when it took me 4 posts to figure out how to vote for someone)
You might be used to people playing who just make "stupid" mistakes - which is much different than what i've done so far. I'm sure there are plenty of new players out there who aren't good at positioning themselves to move people's opinions of them, but i feel like the current accusations on me are all at the behest of slimer, who is leading the charge. I dont even think i'm first on the chopping block for people, but i feel that slimer is throwing out accusations as much as possible and trying to get one to stick.
In the big post where I voted you I pointed out that aphix flipped Vanilla town.In post 193, Naio wrote: Then of course we have the chance thatwas the tracker/cop[/b], and we're fucked.aphix
Sorry if I was not clear, and reading back i see it wasnt very clear. that entire post was based on a misunderstanding, 1) there are two "goon" slots. 2) that you actually see the role of the person that diesIn post 231, The Acting Method wrote: It's not your tracker/cop theory that is why I at least voted you first. It's because you said that when the person you were talking about was A: Dead and B: Had flipped vanilla town.
I would really enjoy looking at that if you have a copy of the footage. I would love a camp meeting grounds for a huge mafia game like thatIn post 232, Naio wrote:Sorry if I was not clear, and reading back i see it wasnt very clear. that entire post was based on a misunderstanding, 1) there are two "goon" slots. 2) that you actually see the role of the person that diesIn post 231, The Acting Method wrote: It's not your tracker/cop theory that is why I at least voted you first. It's because you said that when the person you were talking about was A: Dead and B: Had flipped vanilla town.
as i said in my original post, i'm used to live-action mafia, not forum, it's much different rules.
(this is super off topic)In post 233, theslimer3 wrote: I would really enjoy looking at that if you have a copy of the footage. I would love a camp meeting grounds for a huge mafia game like that
Ummm, this still doesn't make sense to me. I get that you thought there were two "goon" slots.In post 232, Naio wrote:Sorry if I was not clear, and reading back i see it wasnt very clear. that entire post was based on a misunderstanding, 1) there are two "goon" slots. 2) that you actually see the role of the person that diesIn post 231, The Acting Method wrote: It's not your tracker/cop theory that is why I at least voted you first. It's because you said that when the person you were talking about was A: Dead and B: Had flipped vanilla town.
as i said in my original post, i'm used to live-action mafia, not forum, it's much different rules.
You did. In your RQS answers.In post 234, Naio wrote:(this is super off topic)In post 233, theslimer3 wrote: I would really enjoy looking at that if you have a copy of the footage. I would love a camp meeting grounds for a huge mafia game like that
i think i wrote in an earlier post i've never played, only watched live streams. this is the channel i watch, they play games every monday and wednesday evenings. http://www.twitch.tv/koibu
after watching them for a while is why i ended up googling and finding this forum
In post 232, Naio wrote:
2) that you actually see the role of the person that dies
as i said in my original post, i'm used to live-action mafia, not forum, it's much different rules.
to answer your question from post 235, what i said in post 232 was that i didnt realize that you get this:In post 235, The Acting Method wrote: But you do actually get shown the role of the person that died. Unless you mispoke and meant to say "that you don't get shown the role of the person that dies." Aphix flipped vanilla town. Most Mafia games done on forums will show a flip after a death.
when someone dies. i didnt see that when i wrote my post about the possibility of aphix being a tracker/cop.In post 192, Maestro wrote:
Thanks. Ill watch that tonight :3In post 234, Naio wrote:(this is super off topic)In post 233, theslimer3 wrote: I would really enjoy looking at that if you have a copy of the footage. I would love a camp meeting grounds for a huge mafia game like that
i think i wrote in an earlier post i've never played, only watched live streams. this is the channel i watch, they play games every monday and wednesday evenings. http://www.twitch.tv/koibu
after watching them for a while is why i ended up googling and finding this forum
to answer your question from post 235, what i said in post 232 was that i didnt realize that you get this:In post 238, Naio wrote:In post 232, Naio wrote:
2) that you actually see the role of the person that dies
as i said in my original post, i'm used to live-action mafia, not forum, it's much different rules.
when someone dies. i didnt see that when i wrote my post about the possibility of aphix being a tracker/cop.In post 192, Maestro wrote:
Yes, and as other people have pointed out, you keep refusing to defend yourself or talk about your actions. even in your post, yet again, it's either calling someone else's accusation crappy, or slinging an accusation at someone else for something they said.
In post 198, theslimer3 wrote:I won't even mention the setup slip you made. I'll discount that as a noob mistake.
After all, it's kind of confusing wifom to slip that column 2 and A won't be a possibility in this setup.
Let alone that you'd think aphix would be a PR because of it
In post 242, theslimer3 wrote: Or die trying to get my target lynched the next day, which is you at the moment.
so, i'm your target "at the moment"In post 245, theslimer3 wrote:the only thing i've let go is the only thing you think i'm attacking you for.
In post 246, Naio wrote: so, i'm your target "at the moment"
HOWEVER, you've let go the 1 reason you had for voting me in the first place, so you have no reasons left
Proof you see it as a good stance.In post 199, Naio wrote:I'm not going to lie, i dont understand most of what you wrote due to the slang you used.
you make a lot of good points, only 2 of which i disagree with.
Proof you knew what I said.In post 199, Naio wrote:1) i dont see why a mafia would jump on a bandwagon while announcing that he's jumping on the bandwagon. if i was mafia trying to jump on the bandwagon, i'd bring a point to why i was voting rather than explicitly stating i was bandwagoning, and then in the future i could say "see i voted for them with this reason!" which is a lot stronger than saying "i voted for them because i was jumping on the wagon!"
2) to me, voting someone without explanation after they made (what i thought) was a legitimate strategy, is still scummy. in fact if YOU are mafia, you would know i'm town, and you're trying to jump on my noob mistakes and get an easy lynch. If i look at it from a 30,000 feet view, i feel it's more likely you are trying to trap a new player and get an easy lynch, than try to draw out a suspected mafia.
so in conclusion, i'm leaning towards you being mafia, not enough to vote for it, but enough to ask you to explain the accusations you made and why they make MORE sense from a town standpoint than from a scum standpoint. after you respond i'm happy to give you my view again.
Completely forgotten about.In post 197, theslimer3 wrote:Since you've posted what you said on voting mollie, i've found it strange the way you did so.
Then your post about being a sitbackandwatch player as you have insight made it even more apparent that you're a possible suspect. Something like that just seems like a reason to give you grounds to be a flexible lurker, only needing to post if needed.
Completely forgotten about.In post 197, theslimer3 wrote:But that alone isn't what brought me to you being scum. Yes, partially the vote took the cake, but not the vote alone, but what you said in it's context. In the before text, it was clear that you've known the vote count and knew where it was going, in a Mollie lynch.
After my apparent hammer, and Aphix's very clear L-1 post that he was so kind to make larger for us, you've still decided to announce you're hopping on the bandwagon, rather than overkilling, hammering, or even L-1ing him. That shows a very basic Mafia trait. One that hops on wagons purely for the kill. Whether or not he was your buddy doesn't matter when you're gaining credit either way.
Completely forgotten about.In post 197, theslimer3 wrote:Then there's the vote I placed on you. You seemed rather defensive. Any normal player would too, of course. And i'll admit this is quite a stretch, but the way you're calling it the scummiest move, or scum at all is what makes me curios and kind of incriminated you more.
Any normal townie would want to know why. It would be natural for a player to feel pressured and want to see what made them assume why so then could clear themselves, but your immediate logic was to call me scum. Which leaves me to believe that if you were scum, your target of motive would be for the day, me. I would be your direction for a mislynch.