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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:52 pm

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In post 398, Cabd wrote:I could direct you to gif's avatar being a hottie (bitches with green hair etc), but let's keep this game relevant, shall we?
I never understood GIF. Or Sakura. Purple's clearly the best hair color on your qt3.14.
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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:52 pm

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and both of you are the co-analysts in the hydra i suppose
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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:52 pm

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In post 399, Bert wrote:who in the world is that *goes to Google*

Um.... I wasn't referrign to either of you about the english major thing but

I'll go with you FFERY as your answer, mostly because you are done with school! <3
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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:59 pm

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In post 399, Bert wrote:who in the world is that *goes to Google*

Um.... I wasn't referrign to either of you about the english major thing but

I'll go with you FFERY as your answer, mostly because you are done with school! <3
That was Nati.
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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:07 pm

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I'm extending you two a bit of a reach. Nati can translate. If you're scum, well, so be it.
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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:12 pm

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Whew. That took way longer than I thought or needed it to take.

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Town: Mac, KA, Kaze, slimer

And what was up with Kalimar's random vote on me?
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:12 pm

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In post 404, Cabd wrote:I'm extending you two a bit of a reach. Nati can translate. If you're scum, well, so be it.
We're town.

Nati's p much down for the count after the road trip. He'll have to translate tomorrow.
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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:13 pm

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Oh and in case the mod removed tne's vote
Vote Sakura Hana
because she is literally leaking scum.
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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:15 pm

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In post 405, MafiaSSK wrote:Whew. That took way longer than I thought or needed it to take.

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Scum: Sakura, geists, one of (Kalimar, pieguy)
Null: Brian Skies, Bert
Town: Mac, KA, Kaze, slimer

And what was up with Kalimar's random vote on me?
<---am I chopped liver?
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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:22 pm

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In post 407, MafiaSSK wrote:because she is literally leaking scum.
Would you please elaborate?
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:29 pm

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In post 408, Cabd wrote:
In post 405, MafiaSSK wrote:Whew. That took way longer than I thought or needed it to take.

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Scum: Sakura, geists, one of (Kalimar, pieguy)
Null: Brian Skies, Bert
Town: Mac, KA, Kaze, slimer

And what was up with Kalimar's random vote on me?
<---am I chopped liver?
If you're chopped liver, then you're a mayor's chopped liver, because you're town.
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In post 407, MafiaSSK wrote:because she is literally leaking scum.
Would you please elaborate?
Fence sitting on a lot of issues, no real contributions to town despite your activity, and overall you don't seem to be fitting your town meta.
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:35 pm

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In post 410, MafiaSSK wrote:f you're chopped liver, then you're a mayor's chopped liver, because you're town.
That's quite a hasty conclusion. Explain?
In post 410, MafiaSSK wrote:Fence sitting on a lot of issues
You're way off the scale on what fence sitting means if you think that
In post 410, MafiaSSK wrote:no real contributions to town despite your activity
So my interactions this game mean nothing to you, and despite that, you arent contributing anything at all, except a bunch of reads
In post 410, MafiaSSK wrote:and overall you don't seem to be fitting your town meta.
I still have a town meta?

Those accusations quite hypocritical coming from you.

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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:44 pm

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In post 405, MafiaSSK wrote:Whew. That took way longer than I thought or needed it to take.

READS LIST:
Scum: Sakura, geists, one of (Kalimar, pieguy)
Null: Brian Skies, Bert
Town: Mac, KA, Kaze, slimer

And what was up with Kalimar's random vote on me?
I'm letting Nati sort you this time, because I default to scumreading you.

Why do you have slimer as town?
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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:51 pm

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In post 386, geists wrote:
In post 380, Kazekirimaru wrote:
In post 375, geists wrote:
Brian Skies


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I have a fair amount of experiential meta with Brian, and Nati was on Brian's scum team in the Cash Cabd mini normal game. My impression from that game (and from his two town games that we played) is that Brian tends to start games a little weakly no matter what his alignment. He seemed to try hard to get along as scum, and I didn't see that in his town games.
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VOTE: Cabd


Before he nightkills me.
^^ I liked this post at the time it hit the thread, though I did get a slight sense of buddying from it. But, Cabd seems like an odd choice of player for newish scum to buddy.
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In post 21, Kazekirimaru wrote:Ohai.

VOTE: Brian Skies

There was a clear RVS wagon forming and you avoided it masterfully.
Was continuing a discussion from the sign-up thread.
In post 21, Kazekirimaru wrote:This vote be srs bsnz, brah.
That's cool.

What have you learned?
In post 35, Cabd wrote:Note my lack of vote on the KA wagon.
Hai. Why does this post contradict what you just said previously?
^^ Stuff I didn't like.

1. Seriously defending his rvs vote.

2. Taking the vote on himself seriously "What have you learned?"

I did like that he questioned Cabd, but the contradiction was nonexistant.
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In post 63, pieguyn wrote:this seems really weird. why are you being so defensive about an RVS vote? mb as a not-so-serious post in RVS itself it'd be fine, but you seem to be seriously defending it. scared much?
What about that vote is defensive?
In post 64, Kazekirimaru wrote:It wasn't really serious. I thought the wording was indicative of that.

Though your reaction to it was very real! You seem a bit bothered, eh? :3
My initial reaction was your vote giving me the warm fuzzies.

Now that I have learned the truth, not so much.
^^ The "What about that vote is defensive?" question feels pretty perfunctory and sort of continues the wrong-feelingness of his reaction to Kaze's vote. Same with his response to Kaze. It just doesn't feel like a town reaction to a vote, and it's a very noncommital reaction to people reacting to his reaction.
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In post 67, pieguyn wrote:the fact that it was a RV. it's natural people are going to RV with weird reasons, so IMO it's defensive because you seem to be really taking it seriously. 0.0

not sure what you mean by reasoning, if that doesn't explain it can you elaborate plz?
I didn't really care that he voted me. I was just giving him my reasoning for my RVS because what he said wasn't true.
In post 67, pieguyn wrote:what's your opinion on Kaze?
He likes wagons. He's pretty much doing what I'd expect from him.
More low-key "nothing to see here" feeling reaction.
In post 72, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 70, Kazekirimaru wrote:So, you scum?
I'm town. You?
Such a lack of engagement.
In post 75, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 73, pieguyn wrote:exactly why I think you're being defensive. his vote was a RV just like any other, so why do you feel the need to say it's not true? it's not a serious accusation. 0.0
So you're saying I can't respond to it?
In post 73, pieguyn wrote:are you initially leaning town or scum on Kaze?
Right now, probably town.
Look at all the questions so far in this quote wall. They are not scumhunting questions. They are attention deflecting questions.
In post 76, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 74, Kazekirimaru wrote:Start off by telling me who you're looking at for scum thus far.
Nothing jumps out at me. Maybe Cabd.

Try again later.
Finally! Scumhunting! Oh wait. "Try again later".
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In post 80, pieguyn wrote:also, what's your opinion on KA?
Okay, so I misread this the first time around and thought you were referring to Kaze. KA's early push against Mac makes me laugh and I think that a push against either you or Marquis would have been more interesting. He already explained his reasoning for not pushing Marquis though.
In post 105, Kalimar wrote:What about his reply here didn't give you the 'warm fuzzies'?
Was hoping it was a serious vote that had the intention of moving the game forward and be something I could use to sort people.

Alas, the RVS stage continues to disappoint me.
In post 108, Kazekirimaru wrote:What do you think of the KA wagon?
Useless. The lack of counterwagon bothers me.
In post 128, pieguyn wrote:nothing's really fkin happened yet. wait till something big happens and then I'll show up :>
This sounds like something I would say.
In post 132, pieguyn wrote:what's your opinion on Sakura?
:shrugs: Sakura's in this little pocket of people that I don't like to read.
In post 134, pieguyn wrote:atm he's leaning scum for the reason I pointed out previously.
:roll:
In post 141, geists wrote:I don't have an opinion about his play in Stack the Deck. I didn't play the game and haven't meta'd it.
If you want to see strong townreads get mislynched for stupid reasons, it's an interesting read.
In post 144, Sakura Hana wrote:in mismatched and stacking the deck he played differently but the vibes i get this game is more of stacking the deck.
Those games are like polar opposites in terms of my seriousness level.
In post 152, pieguyn wrote:also, Nacho isn't even in this game and there's no votes on Kalimar. can you elaborate plz
Probably something to do with lurker prejudice and attacking anything not moving enough.
In post 159, pieguyn wrote:why didn't you call me out for keeping my vote on KA while scumreading you?
Wondering if this is also related to me somehow.
In post 162, pieguyn wrote:I was scumreading her all the way till endgame and that was one of my reasons, so I dunno if this is alignment indicative for her
Was I not fighting the wagon hard enough that game?
In post 166, thenewearth wrote:Meta just gets in the way of accurate reads
I agree.
Ok, so this quote wall. I thought there would probably be something in here that would give a sense of what he's thinking about other players. The highlights are that RVS continues to disappoint him because it's not giving him anything to build reads from. And I have to ask...well, why not do something more? Interactions? Questions? Observations? No. It's all been reactions to stuff posted by others.

KA wagon is useless because no counterwagon. Aaand...where's his vote? Be the counterwagon you wish to see.

He passes on the opportunity to post something about Sakura.

Some comments about his play in other games, and I get no sense how they are supposed to illuminate his play in this game.

And something sort of dismissive of pressure on lurkers? I wonder why?

And a dismissal of meta.


Here's an ISO from the mismatching flavors micro game, to give you reasons why Brian's play so far feels incredibly bland, unemotional, disengaged and above all, scummy.

VOTE: Brian Skies
Though his posts this game have been leaving much to be desired, they can easily be attributed to a lack of interest. I also don't quite see the strong parallels you apparently see between this game and the ISO you provided. In Mismatched, he's not only non-committal and lacking effort, but he was downright fluffy and almost whimsical.(e.g. opining about his hatred of dancing and blatantly buddying Bert for no apparent reason.)

Basically I'm saying his play here is indeed poor but it doesn't look identical to his provided scumplay examples to me.
No, you're entirely missing the point of his ISO in the mismatching game. In that game, even though he was picking up votes and FoSes and being challenged, he
cared
and he scumhunted, and he wound up a strong town read to most of the players as a result. His reactions to RVS shark-in-the-water activities in this game don't answer suspicions, they deflect them.
Oh, derp. I'm an idiot.

Okay, I see your point.
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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:56 pm

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In post 411, Sakura Hana wrote:
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This vote is awful. Why do you keep doing awful things?
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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:57 pm

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If the pie wagon doesn't become a thing I'm so down for lynching Sakura, btw

Maybe Cabd, too.
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:59 pm

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And for the record I am absolutely NOT down for a flavor claim.
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:59 pm

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In post 414, Kazekirimaru wrote:This vote is awful. Why do you keep doing awful things?
Did you see how hypocritical he was?
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:01 pm

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I see how hypocritical you're being accusing him of coming to hasty conclusions and then voting him before he expounds on his read on you.

Plus OMGUS just makes my skin crawl.
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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:04 pm

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In post 411, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 410, MafiaSSK wrote:f you're chopped liver, then you're a mayor's chopped liver, because you're town.
That's quite a hasty conclusion. Explain?
I have a town read on Cabd? If he wants to know more, I'll tell him?
In post 410, MafiaSSK wrote:Fence sitting on a lot of issues
You're way off the scale on what fence sitting means if you think that
Cool stuff.
In post 410, MafiaSSK wrote:no real contributions to town despite your activity
So my interactions this game mean nothing to you, and despite that, you arent contributing anything at all, except a bunch of reads
I replaced into this game, what, one maybe two days ago, during a holiday weekend. You're lucky you got reads by now. But you, have been playing since the beginning and haven't contributed any significant cases. The majority of your votes have been reactionary, not logical.
In post 410, MafiaSSK wrote:and overall you don't seem to be fitting your town meta.
I still have a town meta?
From the way, I saw you in your town games, yes.
Those accusations quite hypocritical coming from you.

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See, here's an example of the reactionary vote. But please do tell me on why hypocrisy is a scumtell.
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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:05 pm

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In post 412, geists wrote:
In post 405, MafiaSSK wrote:Whew. That took way longer than I thought or needed it to take.

READS LIST:
Scum: Sakura, geists, one of (Kalimar, pieguy)
Null: Brian Skies, Bert
Town: Mac, KA, Kaze, slimer

And what was up with Kalimar's random vote on me?
I'm letting Nati sort you this time, because I default to scumreading you.

Why do you have slimer as town?
Slimer is mostly gut.
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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:15 pm

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In post 419, MafiaSSK wrote:But please do tell me on why hypocrisy is a scumtell.
You're accusing me of things you yourself are doing, specially the no contribution part, which i still disagree that i havent contributed to this game.
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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:20 pm

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In post 421, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 419, MafiaSSK wrote:But please do tell me on why hypocrisy is a scumtell.
You're accusing me of things you yourself are doing, specially the no contribution part, which i still disagree that i havent contributed to this game.
All three votes that you've had have literally come without cases. KA, Kalimar, and me. No reasoning behind them, no way to convince other members of this town to join you in trying to lynch whoever. You are not contributing to town. You are responding to posts and letting us know how much of scummy scum scum you are.
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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:21 pm

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It's funny of you to ignore my vote on Kaze since it's the one that caused the most revolution in here.

KA I stated why I voted him in the previous post, Kalimar due to NachoTech, You for being hypocritical.
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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:26 pm

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Oh yes, such brilliant, convincing reasoning in
In post 411, Sakura Hana wrote: Those accusations quite hypocritical coming from you.

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In post 146, Sakura Hana wrote:Probably, anyway i went through KA's ISO again and I think I may be making a mistake here due to his interactions with Mac, so im gonna follow the Nacho method for the time being and move my vote here instead.

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In post 46, Sakura Hana wrote:
What makes you think people do the exact same thing every RVS?, some do, others dont.

Lots of PEds later: I'm quite surprised you questioned Mac on doing something useless on their first post without questioning Cabd who did the exact same thing and continued the uselessness thing even longer.
So very convincing.

As for your Kalimar vote causing the most "revolution", you're kidding yourself.
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