Newbie 1455: How We Met The Mafia (Game Over!)

[Malakittens]

Vote Count 1.06

Not voting(2)

- phokdapolees, Dessew

RachMarie(2)

- drmyshotgun, TeedyKay

TwilightsCall(1)

- MauriceMoss

MauriceMoss(1)

- T S O

TeedyKay(3)

- TwilightsCall RachMarie, Acidic_TACO

Vote History:

MauriceMoss - Acidic_TACO, TwilightsCallUNVOTE
Acidic_TACO - TwilightsCall, drmyshotgun, UNVOTE, drmyshotgun, UNVOTE, T S O, TeedyKay
T S O - TeedyKay, RachMarie, MauriceMoss
TeedyKay - RachMarie, Acidic_TACO, TwilightsCall, RachMarie
TwilightsCall - drmyshotgun, UNVOTE, techking45, UNVOTE, RachMarie, Bitmap, TeedyKay
drmyshotgun - Acidic_TACO, UNVOTE, RachMarie
Dessew - drmyshotgun, Bitmap, TwilightsCall, UNVOTE
Bitmap - drmyshotgun, Acidic_TACO, UNVOTE
RachMarie - TwilightsCall, TeedyKay

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

The deadline is Saturday, December 14, which is in (expired on 2013-12-14 11:00:00)

Mod notes:

Still searching for a replacement for drmyshotgun.

[Dessew]

Sorry, I didn't really have time and

I'll be V/LA from Monday to Thursday

, although, I might be able to post on Thursday already. I won't go into details why, wish me luck anyway.

So... why is TC town?
The reason is basically that he was pushing his scumreads. I thought scum-TC would have distanced quite actively when being almost lynched and everything went just fine but then he started to push the players he listed as scum in a way scum don't want to push his buddy if he's almost lynched. His cases actually made sense, they weren't half-hearted. He left Bitmap out, that's why I asked for a case on him, I thougth scum-TC might come up with something mishmashy (and then I would've proposed a phok lynch to get info about TC) but it was an actual case again. Of course there are if's, like what if he didn't want to distance but that wouldn't fit with his play if he was scum.

I originally didn't want to lynch Teddy, but I have just seen again how he hopped off the TC wagon.
VOTE: Teddy

It's L-1!

Say intent etc. or PL on the next day blablabla you must be tired of reading it over and over.

[TeedyKay]

phokdapolees replaces Bitmap. Welcome him.

Hopped off the TC wagon because his retorts were fantastic. Something you've just highlighted yourself.

I have no problems being lynched day one, pay attention to this weak wagon though Townies.

RachMarie especially, and don't trust that Taco claim

[TeedyKay]

EBWOP: No idea why that quote is there

[TeedyKay]

Well it's all gone quiet, either people have faded or there's an air of trepidation about dropping the hammer, just drop it, it'll show me to be bog standard Vanilla Townie anyways, no exceptional use to Town in the grander scheme of things, so happy to go to show the rest of you out there exactly how quick and how devoid of substance this wagon was.

How Acidic has lied yet is voting me for pushing he may have

How Rach has lurked and only when pinned down comes up with awful excuses for a wagon about how I should be voting Acidic even though it's been covered multiple times already in the thread that no one else was going to vote.

Strangely for me how Dessew voted for me for coming off the TC wagon, when his post further compounds what I already felt about TC myself.

TC is Town, ignore that vote on me, it's clear, Moss is Town for me too but that truly is just a gut at this juncture.

its been a good game, a little quiet in places, but to all the newbies learning, one thing to take on board is that Scum Hunting at times looks ropey, because scum hunters are ACTIVELY going after people to get results for the good of town. Sometimes they are wrong, sometimes they come across as aggressive, sometimes they come across as desperate and other times plain crazy, but just remember if they are hunting/voting/challenging owt out of the norm then they are usually Town on the hunt for scum.

Don't be afraid of dropping the hammer, fuck the bullshit of 'intent' I'm the Town sacrifice this day phase and I doubt I can stop it.

Good luck Town

[MauriceMoss]

Isn't it far fetched to believe at this point in the game 2 mafia would be together on a three person train?

[Acidic_TACO]

Four people on the train now.

[Acidic_TACO]

Twelve hours without a post? Is everyone just thinking or did the game die somehow?

[TwilightsCall]

Typical weekend drought, imo.


That depends, Maurice.

If TeedyKay is scum, then its impossible that both of the scum are on the wagon for obvious reasons. It is somewhat less likely that the last scum is on the wagon, but still possible.

If TeedyKay is town, then it is quite likely that both scum are on the wagon - they know who town is, so if they see a towny getting suspected heavily, then they will jump on the wagon to try and lynch them. This was actually my main reason for suspecting you: you jumped on my wagon without giving a believable reason why you thought I was scum, making it look like you were more interested in having me dead than having scum dead.

In either situation, thinking about it isn't useful until the flip anyways. But if he does turn out to be town, having his opinions - even OMGUS'd ones, if you want to think thats what they are - are useful information. How useful may be up for debate, but its better than nothing.

[MauriceMoss]

Why would the mafia jump on the same wagon, wouldn't they want to distance themselves?

I have noticed I'm jumping on wagons but everyone seems mafia to me! All you T's seem to run together and seem evil. (TC, TSO, TK) I am also thinking the rach wagon makes sense. So yes, I'm very wishy washy on d1.

So have we heard much from bitmap's replacement? (I'm on the wrong page and the name was hard to remember)

[Acidic_TACO]

phokdapolees is bitmap's replacement, hes still catching up.

So Maruice, you think Teedy is a scummy scum or less scummy scum? Just gut instinct please, you seem to favor that.

[TwilightsCall]

Why would the mafia jump on the same wagon, wouldn't they want to distance themselves?

Because if the 'best play' was to distance themselves, we'll be suspicious of those who are distancing themselves. It's a circular argument, in which the best play is always the next decision, aka WIFOM.

In this case, however, its more beneficial for scum to be on the wagon, because lynching townies gets them closer to their win condition.

I have noticed I'm jumping on wagons but everyone seems mafia to me! All you T's seem to run together and seem evil. (TC, TSO, TK) I am also thinking the rach wagon makes sense. So yes, I'm very wishy washy on d1.

As one of the very few people who still seem to have suspicions about me, care to elaborate on why?

[Acidic_TACO]

Twilight, what I hope he means is he gets everyone who starts with T confused...
Also I hate circular arguments, I don't expect them to act in a way I expect.

[MauriceMoss]

Twilight, what I hope he means is he gets everyone who starts with T confused...
Also I hate circular arguments, I don't expect them to act in a way I expect.

Yes, this early it's hard to keep people separated in my mind. I forgot Taco, too. What's with all the t's.

How many people did we lose in this game? Seems like a lot.

[Acidic_TACO]

Twilight, what I hope he means is he gets everyone who starts with T confused...
Also I hate circular arguments, I don't expect them to act in a way I expect.

Yes, this early it's hard to keep people separated in my mind. I forgot Taco, too. What's with all the t's.

How many people did we lose in this game? Seems like a lot.

T is a cool letter I guess?
I think we've had like four replacements...can't remember the names of em.

[MauriceMoss]

It's not just replacements, either, it's also people who just afk (i doubt many of the afk is actually utr)

[TwilightsCall]

Oh I see. Misread, my bad!

Phok's last visit is hidden, and TSO and Rach were around yesterday but haven't posted for 2~ days. I'm still blaming the weekend lull, but I'm going to be pretty sad if things don't pick up quickly.

[DoctorPepper]

Skelda replaces drmyshotgun

Deadline extended 2 days to accommodate this. New deadline is Saturday, December 14, which is in (expired on 2013-12-14 11:00:00)

[TeedyKay]

In this case, however, its more beneficial for scum to be on the wagon, because lynching townies gets them closer to their win condition.

I'd also bear in mind if I were you lot that someone has already been highlighted as getting on the wagon early as they were brought up on their L-1 vote

Just saying folks.

I'd really like to hear TSOs views on this quick baseless wagon before I perish.

[Acidic_TACO]

Teedy, dude, this wagon ain't quick, its been sitting there for a day without any momentum.

[DoctorPepper]

phokdapolees and TSO have been prodded

[phokdapolees]

Sorry guys, normally I would have been caught up by now, but I've just been being really lazy about it. I will fully catch up by tomorrow and post my thoughts though.

[RachMarie]

We have only a couple of days before deadline and having a NL would be really bad this early on.

Still Teedy is at L-1 so please do give intent to hammer before hammering ty.

[MauriceMoss]

Hmm, we haven't even met Skelda yet.

[RachMarie]

Yes and I would like to hear from Skelda, preferably BEFORE deadline.