Mewbie 1472 ~ Game Ovah~

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Hi everyone, fellow townies and fellow mafia.

VOTE: Fsnake

I'm voting for you because snakes are masters of trickery and full of lies, plus your a SE so you got experience with your trickiness.

P.S. is this how beginning votes go?

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Well I got the town goon, so that leaves us with setups 1, 3, B, C

This excludes town doc and roleblocker, meaning anyone who claims that is a liar

How do I know your not trying to fake us out, saying there's definitely no doctor or roleblocker

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Oh and I should have mentioned this before, but Guyett what are your deep, dark, and dangerous reasons for voting KK?

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Well, if I believe you, then if someone says they are doc then I will automatically think they are scum because you say they would be lying

so it does matter at least for me

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Yeah where is this town goon?

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Yeah the whole town goon thing is kind

VOTE: Pharphis

And there is only room for one Canadian, and that will be bipolar!

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Town goon does not exist as you obviously know, do you want to carry on with this or end it early?

@Cheese: What kind of justification can there be for a random vote page one?

Cheese spent too long talking p1 about town goons-“How do I know your not trying to fake us out, saying there's definitely no doctor or roleblocker”-when he knows they don’t even exist.

VOTE: Cheese

Yeah I'm stupid enough that I thought town goon was a real thing. . . .
That was kinda stupid.

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Way to ruin my fun!

Ok, no I didn't get goon

Fun? Umm. . .

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I think people messing around like that is very scummy, it could have seriously just be a joke but now I'm suspicious.

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Way to ruin my fun!

Ok, no I didn't get goon

I was probably pulled into a psychological test, but afterward he says we ruined his FUN. Like it didn't seem like this was for reads, more as a joke.
The joke bit is what I think is scummy. Now he comes out with trying to get reads, but I don't know it feels suspicious to me.

also

VOTE: king kenny
lurking

So why are you saying this instead of responding to my qs?
Why do a risky gambit then not use what you get from it...
Why go for a policy lynch while on L-1?

First is most important there.

I would also like to see these conclusions, so please show

P.S. Guyett why did you vote for kk, just asking.

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How many of you guys are new with mafia, and how many are just new to this site?
I'm finding that I seem to be the only real newb here

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Right

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Joking=fun in that neither = a reaction test= what it should be/looked like.

Karlos was opportunistic i feel.

B/w?

Now three things.
1.) Doing a reaction test then voting someone else despite getting a scumread from the reaction test defeats the point of the reaction test making you look bad.
2.) "I vote for who I think needs prodding" is a really stupid thing to do. Only vote for those who should be lynched.
3.) A policy lynch is a bad reason to vote someone- lurkingetc doesn't make someone town or scum and you want to be lynching scum- thus supporting the worst kind of lynch (naturally this makes you look bad) when on L-1 could get you lynched.

"Oh, and for future reference, players can vote for themselves, right?": Why would you vote yourself as town.

@Bipolar: Then why is he only lynched day one as scum rather than being lynched day one as either alignment? The way you said it sounds like you were subtly trying to make people think if they were voting him they should stay there.

@hopkirk: So, what is your read on pharphis after saying how he is making himself look bad and all that

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So why is your vote still on him?

And I think Karlos is leaning scum, he hasn't said much and he automatically jumped on the vote wagon which was forming, in fact I think he was the 4th vote.

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When i say him I mean pharphis

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I was asking because Bipolar says he doesn't know pharphis's alignment but he is still still voting for him. I would not vote for someone I didn't think was either scum or town.
Also I think Karlos is acting suspicious and I would like to see more to confirm his role as mafia Until then I don't think I'll vote for Karlos. Unless I do it for a reaction to get him talking

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I agree, we need more talk but my vote may stay on pharphis for a bit

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yah'know all three off us could vote for certain people to get some reads.
but I don't know if that's a good idea

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uh okay, me pharphis hopkirk and Bipolar could all vote for some people who haven't been doing much so that we could possibly get a read.

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My vote is still on Pharphis, because I'm interested in seeing how people act at L-1. I don't know why I would think you're locked for a lynch, as I only count 4 votes on you.

My read on Pharphis right now is cautiously leaning town.

His reasoning now is weird, If you are town I'd rather not lynch you to see the reaction, or because you always get lynched day 1
I'm getting all confused now,

UNVOTE: Pharphis

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His reason for voting you and you saying it's fine. I didn't want someone to hammer you especially if bpc was thinking you just might be town

I'm just not sure who to vote for now

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I am fine with that, lets get something out of this scallywag!

VOTE: Karlos

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I think we should also try XLAV

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hah it worked, I did not think it would work

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yes, getting the scallywag.

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Lets pressure karlos then. He seems scummiest.

Why am I getting voted on? I briefly skimmed the posts, due to me having a lack of time.

I voted on Pharphis as his "was just a joke" seemed like a lame excuse and his actions suspicious.

Bipolar chemist also has put himself on my suspicious list, as he backs up Pharphis defense. What a coincidence that you two guys played with eachother before...!? Guys wake up and smell the coffee. BC and Pharphis explain Pharphis weird behaviour by using some material - not accessable to us - to explain it. This seems very scummy, on top of that, you two guys have happened to play with eachother. Something smells foul and is not right about the situation.

My vote will definitely stay with Pharphis. That doesnt meen BC is off the hook though!

I definitively think that bpc and pharphis is a possibility, although I feel I would need more evidence to be fully convinced of the mafia duo

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When do we get a vote count from our fluffy cat mod

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That would be appreciated!

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UNVOTE: karlos

VOTE: pharphis

Guys I'm done pressuring karlos, I think karlos is fine for now, my vote goes back to pharph now

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The reason I am done pressuring Karlos is because Karlos was talking now and he did not post anything particularly scummy, so I put my vote where it was before.
He is talking now anyways, If he talks without my vote there then we are all good

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UNVOTE:

I think now that most people seem to be townish, pharphis is having a good interrogation with karlos, he seems to be working pretty pro-town. Which is the reason I have taken my vote from pharphis.
I don't know what to think of alex yet, but he does seem to be really scumhunting.
Xlav is my top scum right now because he has been lurking and jumping on wagons.
KK is my other scumread because he hasn't been pro-town in my opinion and has only occasionally put in a vote.
Then I don't have anything on Karlos, cuz I suck at figuring these things out. Karlos hasn't done anything particularly scummy yet in my opinion.

VOTE: King

@kingkenny: What happened to using your scumhunting skills??

@pharphis: I am going to try right now to answer all of your questions:
First in post #124, you asked why i was done pressuring karlos. I was done because he was finally talking, that was why I voted him in the first place.
post #134. At that point I thought you were scum again, it's just I didn't speak out my thoughts
If you have anymore I invite you to ask them

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wait, XLAV voted himself? I missed that

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Cheese can you give a scum list with reasons behind each point?

here it is :

guyett is null, he hasn't posted enough for me to get a good read.
alexcellant is town for me. He has been working pro-town by scumhunting ever since he got here and that qualifies him for a town spot.
pharphis is town. I first thought he was scum after the gambit, but with karlos he did seem to be trying to catch scum.
king kenny is my top scum, becuase he is posting at a minimum which makes it look to me like he is lurking, he also said he was gonna use his scumhunting skills in one post, which he never did use. I also asked him for his reads which he did not give.
XLAV is my second scumread because he jumped on two wagons I believe, the first one on pharphis he didn't give very good reasoning.
karl is leaning scum, I actually didn't get a read on karl. I'm going on a gut feeling.
Hopkirk is town. He asks alot of questions which is good, he is scumhunting and is very helpful for town.
BPC null. I think bpc kept pharphis at L-1 to get him talking. That's what you guys said at least, I think. That is a pro-town move, but then he votes my top town read hopkirk and I don't know what to think of him.

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replacement

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So now do we have to wait for ms. malakittens to come and make it night?

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Seeing that kk was the town doc it makes it look like xlav is definitly scum. Hammering without consulting before hand.
XLAV will definitly stay in my scum pack

what was your guy's read on karlos?

I have no idea who my second scum read is now, those who are fighting for it are pharph bpc and guyett.
although I am suspicious of alexcellant and hopkirk, they have been leading alot of scumhunts. Possibly leading us town in the wrong direction, idk. . .
For now I am going to wait for some posts to happen

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If your town, please don't vote for yourself. We would lose another vote and get us townies into a real pickle.

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VOTE: cheese

I'm a sucker for AtE so I'm not feeling scumXLAV right now

AtE?

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Yeah and I kinda think now alex and hop are still town. I was looking at the scumhunting or something on the wiki and it said be pro-town isn't being scum. Something like that atleast.

I also agree with you hop that xlav's selfvote is a scumtell.

VOTE: XLAV

I have a feeling I might be lynched today though.

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oh is XLAV at L-1

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gosh guys i'm so sorry. . .
I think XLAV is lynched now, and this game the town will most likely lose. Because of me and XLAV.

if XLAV is town ofcourse

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or is he lynched, I need a vote count

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Can you guys tell me why you are voting me so I can address the issues

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I did not assume he would know he was doc, I assumed he would know kenny was town. This game is about a informed minority and a uninformed majority going against each other. As I have said I believe XLAV to be part of that informed minority so he would know that kenny is town.
Is that how being mafia is, I have never been apart of the mafia before?

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oh and GO SEAHAWKS!!!!!!

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I did insinuate in that post

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can someone just hammer me?
I have a feeling im gonna get lynched today no matter what I say so I don't feeling like wasting my time answering all you questions when it will still be me getting lynched

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oh and now that i'm asking for someone to kill me i am going to say I am town

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I am stating my intent to hammer myself unless anyone else would like the honor

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ill give you 24 hours

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oh and bpc guyett and XLAV are in my scum pack while everyone else is town enough

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I don't even feel the need to point out how everything cheese is saying is what scum would say.
Cheese is scum and dying, next is finding partner.

I'm kinda of laughing at this right now to! it just proves what I said. No matter what I say, I'm dead

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oh so ill wait for one of you to kill me

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XLAV you can hammer me if you would like to, hopkirk has banned me from hammering myself

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guys, I have made so many contradictory posts and said so many scummy things I should be the one to go!
it does not make sense to keep me

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I am town, if you really want to know

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yeah, you pushed on him a bit with no avail

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oh don't read that last post

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thanks for the advice guyett

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And on your Karl kill you got lucky, him being the tracker