NY 171: An Education in Telling Jokes (Game Over!)

[Malakittens]

Malak is correct.

yet voteless,

buddy aaaaaaaaaaaaaalert.

[Nikanor]

Honestly, the one thing that got me looking at evilpacman18 was this:

I don't like sthar. He posted a read list "in the interest of transparency" meaning he's more concerned with peoples' perceptions of him than posting reads because they convict him into lynching/defending certain people, etc.
Also he's got like a third of the playerlist chalked up to VI (including myself, which I can't remember playing with him but whatever) which normally indicates a town read (it is a VILLAGE idiot, after all), but in the case of someone like fish, who he says he doesn't really believe the claim, meaning he's reading him as scum, it's either a mislabeled null-read or intentional dissonance. Either way, his dismissal of so many players as VI is some indication that, again, he's more interested in looking actively engaged than being so. zekrom's 959 is more typically dull posting from him but I think he accidentally tripped over the discovery that sthar doesn't actually have much at all and for a full playerlist reads post, it leaves me at least still quite unsure of what sthar thinks.

This post is written at a time when sthar is already taking a lot of heat, but only has three votes on him. And the entire post is bullshit! "Intentional dissonance," REALLY? evilpacman18 doesn't even vote sthar until two other people hop on the wagon, making this post even worse, since sthar didn't post a single thing in that time.

VOTE: NIK

last time someone said 'honestly' during a post they were scum. Sayin 'honestly' is a classic scum tell because if you were already honest about it you didn't need to emphasize honestly

I was going to go through every post of evilpacman18's and make up some bullshit tell on everything he said, hoping it'd get him lynched. Instead, I decided to point out the one post that I actually found scummy. Hence the "honestly".

[evilpacman18]

You're voting me based on one post?

[Elyse]

Honestly, the one thing that got me looking at evilpacman18 was this:

I don't like sthar. He posted a read list "in the interest of transparency" meaning he's more concerned with peoples' perceptions of him than posting reads because they convict him into lynching/defending certain people, etc.
Also he's got like a third of the playerlist chalked up to VI (including myself, which I can't remember playing with him but whatever) which normally indicates a town read (it is a VILLAGE idiot, after all), but in the case of someone like fish, who he says he doesn't really believe the claim, meaning he's reading him as scum, it's either a mislabeled null-read or intentional dissonance. Either way, his dismissal of so many players as VI is some indication that, again, he's more interested in looking actively engaged than being so. zekrom's 959 is more typically dull posting from him but I think he accidentally tripped over the discovery that sthar doesn't actually have much at all and for a full playerlist reads post, it leaves me at least still quite unsure of what sthar thinks.

This post is written at a time when sthar is already taking a lot of heat, but only has three votes on him. And the entire post is bullshit! "Intentional dissonance," REALLY? evilpacman18 doesn't even vote sthar until two other people hop on the wagon, making this post even worse, since sthar didn't post a single thing in that time.

VOTE: NIK

last time someone said 'honestly' during a post they were scum. Sayin 'honestly' is a classic scum tell because if you were already honest about it you didn't need to emphasize honestly

I was going to go through every post of evilpacman18's and make up some bullshit tell on everything he said, hoping it'd get him lynched. Instead, I decided to point out the one post that I actually found scummy. Hence the "honestly".

Lol
VOTE: Nikanor

[Marquis]

@mod: v/la weekend

Pedit I like nikanor's case on epm but also dislike his diction and responses????? I also don't think I like the nika wagon

[Elyse]

You're voting me based on one post?

Instead of asking this dumb question, why don't you respond to his case on you?

I actually think epm could be scum but that response by Nikanor was horribad.

[pisskop]

Pacman - Why ar le you voting moi?

-I think pman is town, believe it or not. Nikanor not so much. Since you all seem to think Marquis is coolbeans im jumping onto tge wagon.

unvote
vote: Nikanor

[Green Crayons]

I actually think epm could be scum but that response by Nikanor was horribad.

x2

[serrapaladin]

guys, this isn't assassins in the palace. you CAN give reasoning for your votes.

I will answer this real quick.

it has to do with perception and masking/mimicking that allows them to recreate and blend in.

sera has seen my scum game so I would expect him to be all like "ARGGGGGHHHHHH MOLLIE IS SCUM FUCKING LYNCH HER!!1!" but his push was weak especially since there was no appetite for it and this:

Watch him flip town...

without providing an alternative feels hollow. plus cabd had him as scum and cabd is a player that I respect so part of it also is sheeping his dead read.

it might not be the best but it is what I am going with for now altho I am gonna look at the vote jumps after zekrom scumclaimed (now that I am free of cabd paranoia) cos that would be a good time to bus.

Nope. You know my town-game, so you know I'm not going to immediately yell about having you lynched, particularly given that my read was based on just skimming the first and last few pages. I don't recall Cabd saying anything about me, and I never said I wanted an alternative to lynching Zek, just that I wouldn't have been entirely surprised had he flipped scum, because there were some inconsistencies in Cabd's claim (and guess what? Cabd wasn't being entirely truthful...)

mollie is definitely being odd, I don't think she's scum though.

Marquis is totally town.

pacman-scum is quite possible. His reaction to zek's scumclaim was a bit awkward. Yates and Elyse are other good candidates for scum.

Yatesy is doing that thing he does as scum where he's focusing on calling things bad/weird/wrong rather than making alignment judgements. Most of his comments have no value in finding out the alignment of the person he's interacting with.

Ythan and DN are town from interactions with zek. mollie perhaps too.

[Porochaz]

Interesting voting patterns day 2, makes UT look bad.

Mollie, self voting lasted too long to be scummy...

RC is still making me feel awful.

Back to the game, Marquis Im leaning scum, but Malascum, I'm coming for you.

[Nikanor]

You're voting me based on one post?

Yeap!
Strange how you don't seem to take issue with everyone else who is voting ME based on one post. Really really strange!

[Nikanor]

UT is probably scum too, fwiw.

[Ythan]

Fucking cat somehow found the big bad SUBMIT button. AGH, annoying.

[pirate mollie]

Nope. You know my town-game, so you know I'm not going to immediately yell about having you lynched, particularly given that my read was based on just skimming the first and last few pages. I don't recall Cabd saying anything about me, and I never said I wanted an alternative to lynching Zek, just that I wouldn't have been entirely surprised had he flipped scum, because there were some inconsistencies in Cabd's claim (and guess what? Cabd wasn't being entirely truthful...)

mollie is definitely being odd, I don't think she's scum though.

Marquis is totally town.

pacman-scum is quite possible. His reaction to zek's scumclaim was a bit awkward. Yates and Elyse are other good candidates for scum.

Yatesy is doing that thing he does as scum where he's focusing on calling things bad/weird/wrong rather than making alignment judgements. Most of his comments have no value in finding out the alignment of the person he's interacting with.

Ythan and DN are town from interactions with zek. mollie perhaps too.

this post is so full of hedge we need a freaking gardener to trim the overgrown bushes.

I find it weird that you say yatesy is doing anything to sort out anybody's alignment I mean pot meet keetle

all you are doing is offering hedgey reads and no actual scumhunting

[pirate mollie]

*not doing

[RadiantCowbells]

Porochaz u suk and shud feel awful about ur self

>:(

[Elyse]

RC u suk and shud feel awful about ur self

>:(

[tman2nd]

Ok, I looked at Marquis's ISO, and I don't think he's scum anymore.

I can't stand RC's game though. If anyone knows of a game where she's played like this before, point me to it.
VOTE: RC

[Untrod Tripod]

this game is making my soul cry

I'm still pretty happy with lynching from Cabd's scum list

[Green Crayons]

Skimmed posts. Happy with my vote.

I'm still pretty happy with lynching from Cabd's scum list

If this happens, would be happy with making a PeregrineV vote.

[PeregrineV]

Honestly, the one thing that got me looking at evilpacman18 was this:

I don't like sthar. He posted a read list "in the interest of transparency" meaning he's more concerned with peoples' perceptions of him than posting reads because they convict him into lynching/defending certain people, etc.
Also he's got like a third of the playerlist chalked up to VI (including myself, which I can't remember playing with him but whatever) which normally indicates a town read (it is a VILLAGE idiot, after all), but in the case of someone like fish, who he says he doesn't really believe the claim, meaning he's reading him as scum, it's either a mislabeled null-read or intentional dissonance. Either way, his dismissal of so many players as VI is some indication that, again, he's more interested in looking actively engaged than being so. zekrom's 959 is more typically dull posting from him but I think he accidentally tripped over the discovery that sthar doesn't actually have much at all and for a full playerlist reads post, it leaves me at least still quite unsure of what sthar thinks.

This post is written at a time when sthar is already taking a lot of heat, but only has three votes on him. And the entire post is bullshit! "Intentional dissonance," REALLY? evilpacman18 doesn't even vote sthar until two other people hop on the wagon, making this post even worse, since sthar didn't post a single thing in that time.

VOTE: NIK

last time someone said 'honestly' during a post they were scum. Sayin 'honestly' is a classic scum tell because if you were already honest about it you didn't need to emphasize honestly

I was going to go through every post of evilpacman18's and make up some bullshit tell on everything he said, hoping it'd get him lynched. Instead, I decided to point out the one post that I actually found scummy. Hence the "honestly".

This is how I read that.

[Yates]

Since it appears we're not getting our posts back...

Yatesy is doing that thing he does as scum where he's focusing on calling things bad/weird/wrong rather than making alignment judgements.

I call bullshit. You were mod in one of my Town games. You should know what this play means. Hint: it isn't scum. You also have the benefit of knowing this isn't for show on the off chance you would just happen to replace in. Finally, you've been my victim how many times now? When have I ever done that as scum?

Fake meta is fake.

FOS - serra

[Yates]

So Nik...

Zekrom: Please kill Gooner. I have information that says he is scum.

Is this serious? I'm not going to read the whole game. Spare me the drama and tell me.

[serrapaladin]

Since it appears we're not getting our posts back...

Yatesy is doing that thing he does as scum where he's focusing on calling things bad/weird/wrong rather than making alignment judgements.

I call bullshit. You were mod in one of my Town games. You should know what this play means. Hint: it isn't scum. You also have the benefit of knowing this isn't for show on the off chance you would just happen to replace in. Finally, you've been my victim how many times now?

When have I ever done that as scum?

Fake meta is fake.

FOS - serra

Both times, actually, and in your town games, there was significantly less content which was just filler calling people wrong without saying anything about their alignment.

@mollie: not only do I disagree that that post was particularly hedgy, but what I remarked about Yates was the way in which he avoided giving reads.

[Ythan]

This is dragging.