In post 1801, Infinite Jesters wrote: In post 1795, ika wrote:1) explain to me how its diffrent from any other game you have played with me atm? i almost never have 2 game be entirly the same
1) the answer to your question is implicit in the point you are addressing. but the deflection is noted, where you say "no 2 games of mine are ever alike!".
misrep: "almost" is key there. I always strive to play diffrently each game but there are many similarities
2) i think you are misunderstanding there, i dont have intentions of giving it out right away. I do thing careful and planned. Right now with the lack of activity and people being butthurt and just yelling at each other is becoming stupid right now. If everyone wants to just have a pissing fight at each other, then im all for letting this go on and let it uravel. I cant make much more progression unless if i have a flip. Most of my reads come from what i think and then chain together by if that person is town or scum.
so okay, on 1 hand you don't want to give out your seekrit agenda cos scum might see it and nk you for it and on the other hand you do things carefully and plan things out. okay.
there is not a lot of stupid butthurt right now; serene is claiming lyncher on bird people and bird people are saying no way. if you want to see stupid non related to game fights I can show you this isn't 1 of them. what you have is a bunch of loud people and a bunch of blending in; I am looking at the peeps who are trying to blend in but I want to sort out the peeps on our shift cos we can actually interact with them. you are unsure leaning scum hence the q&a.
you also have 2 flips so what are your thoughts right now?
and i am responding accordingly, as for flips:
we had kill on LD
zort caught by LD
and agare killed
the LD was no brainer
zort was scum outed so relly i cant get much b/c anything past that is/can be WIFOM at best
agare was killed, i havent looked into it much yet. my best guess is
A) he was onto something
B) they knew he wouldnt be lynched
3) how about i do you and stal?
this is what i see so far
both of you are lovers. yes?
so my thoughts goes this
first, take the basic knowns
22 players
white flag
ic with experation
1 scum (min) in each shift
now add in what is assumed/what i think
lover claim (both agree)
maybe 6 scums
scum/scum lover too unliekly
scum/town lover probable
town/town lover probable
lyncher existance
lyncher target has higer chance of town then scum (assume random)
now running random thinking ideas on what would make it ballenced:
town/town+ic the leaves+ lyncher with town=not really ballenced
how does it become ballenced
town/scum lover, lyncher with scum, both?
so out of the 2 of you one of you is scum
stop right here.
this was already addressed. what is questionable is why are you still focused on it since with the white flag mechanic 1 scum can remain alive so lynching the lovers isn't going to happen. the only reason to sort us out if you are following your own line of conjecture from a town POV is if you are trying to figure out who to listen to and work with; I don't see you doing this. that worries me.
nacho can mebbe answer the balance question better than I can, I think most games are pretty swingey on this site and it come down to in thread play. what bothers me is the latter part you are not really addressing or acting with very much commitment but instead are basing reads on set-up spec, and their is no overflow of other useful insight into in thread behaviour.
this is where i have to just go with guts and instincts, i would love to hear nachos opionion on this but really with the info i have this is what i kinda have to build my foundation on. A lot of my other reads are built on foundations on premesis that they are scum or they are town. I already agnowlage the lovers wont die but assuning one of you 2 are, it allows me to have a good starting point of who is also scuma dn who is also town. I'm fully aware of the lover shared win and the white flag and how im doign setup-spec, but its all i have to go off of atm. everything else is basicly lurk or do nothing
next i go look at interactions and how you guys have played and how stal has played.
and from that i draw my conclusion. you have interactied negativly with the other people i dont trust as well as not really done much help for town as i would expect you would. Stal has done that.
what negative interactions are you viewing as negative are you talking about? and how are we not helping town? how is sven not helping town? sven has been bumped up to unsure
i misphrased here, your interactions have been negative (wanting to lynch 3rd party is one of them), stal has his own set of problems (the list, i find it sometimes as an easy way to get town cred and look important) but he has more town status then you gys do.
and from there my read start to link up. if we get another flip then i redefine my reads based on the info that is found.
walk me through your linked reads plz. cos I want to understand where you are coming from.
Tommorow, honestly this post alone is taking a lot out of me and the read i gave on you is a lot.
Now after thats fuck full of shit im gone. if i am responding to anyhting else its going be either short or just idgaf mood
you keep shutting down when any1 questions you and I don't like it. sometimes I shut down as town too but it is when I am being gangbanged emotionally and you are not.
I am trying to sort you out cos I am not seeing a big town flare here.
it may not seem like it here, but im tired and its late so im not all here every time, i am very easily prone to small emotinal things, i agree its not really happening here but my mood is what makes my play
lets talk perv, cos you gave an opinion on him.
perv is a player I have played lots with that I still don't understand and have trouble reading. I can tell you he isn't all that emotional so those tactics won't work on him. what I have learned about him is to sit back and see if his reasoning matches up with his flow. so far it does. his questions are pointed, have a direction and so far the progression of his thoughts makes sense if you follow the narrative in his posts from a town POV. he also is doing follow-ups. <---- he is trying to sort things out.
thats they key and also somewhat of the problem, i cant directly interactiw ith him. So all i can do is jsut be sidelined and watch
this is the stuff I would like to see from you.
I wouldn't pester you if I did not think that you could do this. it is that you aren't and are being super defensive about it is what concerns me.
im not really trying to be "super defensive" i jsut prefer things to eb done on my terms then others. If people want to understand me better all they sometimes have to do is do something that seems highly stupid. I figure people out though obscurity by forcing them to do things they dont exactly like.
To me, unless if i know w/o a doubt your town, for all i know you could be scum. I assmue scum defautly and become obscure to froce them to play my way. When i get a grasp of someone well enough to know how they play as both town and scum, then i can adjust acordingly. untll then i assume scum and fore them to play by my rules.
where did ap go
he dais phone post, prob raging off somewhere
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