In post 333, Untrod Tripod wrote:venmar the weather vane ladies and gents
unvote vote Venmar
all aboard the lynch train. next stop is victory.
Ok let's start here. This is our baseline for UT, moving forward.
Alright, so here is our first change in pace. To this point in the game, UT has been (and continues to be) focused heavily on Venmar. Still, there was something here apparently strong enough for UT to be moved away. Note that the vote doesn't stay here long, but it's... well it's sort of a neutral comment. There's no negative impact from this because Tim Howard's posting is admittedly lacking on these pages, and there's not a lot of room to call him on it. The intent just feels off.
In post 412, Untrod Tripod wrote:they're all over the road
the buddying post at me for townreading them, quadz walking in this morning and going "hey guys let's not get carried away and I think you are being a bit rude don't you think?", the scumread on Zed which is... I mean... what the fuck is that
this doesn't look like a persecution complex so much as a scum hydra trying to play good cop bad cop so people will feel guilty for scumreading them. mayyyyyyyybe I'm super bad at reading hydras, but it looks to me like damage control from a scum perspective rather than a town one
PEdit: the kats wagon is bad and they should feel bad
Here we have a discussion about UT's scum read on the Sixty hydra, which is not the super important other than showing UT's constant changing of reads, especially when he backtracks on Sixty later. The other important thing to note here is that UT mentions how much he doesn't want to touch a Kats wagon, and how it's bad, but is willing to be passive enough to let it run it's course on policy.
In post 426, Untrod Tripod wrote:to be fair I have skimmed a bit
and you do tend to see red when people scumread you >_>
Here's the first bit of weird interaction from UT -> Reck. I just, I don't have a big explanation of what's wrong here, but this is what, on my first read through, made me look closer specifically at this. It felt off and forced.
In post 464, Untrod Tripod wrote:except if you're gonna compromise how about you compromise on Venmar, who's like, actually scum though
This is again aimed at Reck and conveys that same bad feeling. It's just artificial, like UT is trying to engender some kind of feeling in Reck towards him based on what he expects Reck to do. It's not natural, the intent feels more like it has an ulterior motive.
In post 719, Untrod Tripod wrote: In post 714, Sixty wrote:Untrod Tripod - Zdenek and Katsuki defenses are nice but not enough to give a Town read. Votes are bad all the way down - even the Tim Howard vote because of the "good cop bad cop" explanation (see post 415). The discrediting of our slot in particular is actively anti-Town (neither pro-Town nor alignment-unrelated like generic complaining).
I'm just trying to get people off of dumb votes on a really good and protown slot and an easy mislynch. I've watched Zed laser through scumteams and not be taken seriously and I really want to give him the opportunity to shine here. I'm big on the Zed right now. And also I've been burned before with Kats and I'm not letting it happen again.
Also, I'm really not trying to discredit your slot, I just want to gently suggest that maybe you stop with the weird furry roleplaying because it makes your posts really hard to read and/or take seriously. You're both *really* good mafia players and it'd be good if you were posting like the intelligent people you are?
And I keep opening the thread and then closing it again because Shadoweh's ridiculous histrionics make me just want to die inside. Shadoweh I'm begging you: I've played games with you and you're a GREAT player when you're not flipping the fuck out like this. Please take a chill pill and help us hunt scum. I'd bet my bottom boondollar that scum are trying to make you a nonfactor by needling you out of the game.
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Okay now that my personal lovefest is over, can we PLEASE get down to business and lynch Venmar? Dude's not even trying to look town.
UT takes the time to cover his bases. Stroking Shadoweh's ego, leveling Sixty out with love/hate flopping, Stroking Zed's ego, Protecting Katsuki. This is UT grabbing allies for later fights. You can't appeal to someone unless you've got a base with them. What makes it even funnier is a post later that Sixty says right here:
Rejecting the strategy UT put forward. Not surprisingly, Sixty didn't live to see the next day.
In post 1033, Untrod Tripod wrote:psst Reck do you think that quadz saying that is actually alignment indicative rather than just bullshit indicative?
bullshit =/= scum
Trying to level out Reck here, could be for a couple reasons. I mean if he's town, it's possible that he thinks Reck has just gone off the plantation, but that's not what I get from this post. It feels a hell of a lot more like UT is trying to reign Reck back in. Would I be surprised if Tim Howard was UT's scum partner? no. But it doesn't need to be like that for this to make sense for scum!UT. The more Reck is kept inside of UT's circle of control, the more useful he is to UT, and the less likely Reck pulls a 180 flip on him.
In post 1035, Untrod Tripod wrote:speaking of katsuki and his wagon
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More of this, serving little purpose if you're not willing to actively persecute the people on that wagon. This is empty posting.
In post 1037, Untrod Tripod wrote:and don't even fucking start with me that that's not real syntax I fucking know but I JUST CAN'T FIND THAT FUCK TO GIVE ABOUT THAT
Venmar's still fuckin scum and I have no faith in our ability to blunder into an actual scum lynch the longer the day goes
I mean, christ, Reck's reasons alone for joining the Tim wagon should give him pause but he's too busy being pissed off at the rest of the game to realize that the wagon is made of bullshit and fail
Perpetuation as content, trying to keep things at status quo.
Gives me the shivers.
In post 1039, Untrod Tripod wrote:what the fuck happened with that Plum wagon? why did we stop wanting to do that? that Plum is RIPE for a lynch
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
no but seriously I'll lynch Plum.
You'll lynch Plum (that makes 4 for you this day) but not vote her to preserve whatever pressure you thought was there that made plum ripe for a lynch? Hmmmm
This is the king of levels @ Reck from UT. Not only does it get the chance to downplay Tim Howard's competence (if they are indeed scum together) but it ALSO continues to send Reck into apathetic levels for UT to manipulate.
In post 1073, Untrod Tripod wrote:jesus christ he parades that out in front of us as if it clears him somehow
reck please tell me you're not going soft with age
we need Reck The Steely. Reck the Rock. Reck the Unbreakable.
And here it is. The Ego stroke to finish the leveling.
In post 1076, Untrod Tripod wrote:so you think reck AS SCUM would be protecting a TOWN doublevoter?
I just find that super unlikely
reck is super cheeky, but I doubt he'd play THAT fast and loose
THIS. FEELS. SO. FAKE.
This whole interaction with Plum about the beetlejuice tell, and then using it again later on me is ???
I don't have anyting to say about this one, it's just here to complement the above comment.
In post 1720, Untrod Tripod wrote:sigh
okay yes it was a gay joke yes quadz is a hot man and to answer your implicit question yes
I think Reck could have been whiteknighting to pick up some town cred.
the question he asked was one he REALLY should know better about, considering he's hydra'd before and his rhetorical method is that cheap "REALLY?!" thing that people do when they know they need to disagree with something but they don't have an actual argument so they just act incredulous (reductium ad absurdium?)
the big question here is whether or not I think any of that makes reck scum and right now I think the answer is NO
The bolded is an issue.
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