Micro 369 - Diamond Shreddies (Game Over)

[gameplay506]

Sns neeeds to die. Like now. Die die.

VOTE: sns
Also I wanted to make a joke about drawing scum. So your guilty in that too :s

[gameplay506]

Hahaha I love being able to claim scum and not get lynched! This is an awesome setup!

Since two of you know SnS to be a formidable character, I think I'll cast my random vote to him.

VOTE: sns

Umm, no they haven't. I said he fooled me in our last game, but GP said he needs to die with no reasoning.

That's also not a random vote if you're voting because he is 'formidable'

Pleaseee. Both of our votes were RVS votes so don't try to paint me.

VOTE: BBT
Not that much of a rvs vote now.

Also should we act scummy so that we prove we are scum?



Hm pleaseee. Both of ou

[gameplay506]

It was more due to my mistake of trusting somebody else's read

Dont lie. I know the truth

[gameplay506]

ZZZX third game together. We may be lovers one day you know #totallynotgayjoke

[gameplay506]

ZZZX third game together. We may be lovers one day you know #totallynotgayjoke

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ZZZX you are acting too town. I dont like it.

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Explain it to me now. Before I go to bed. Now. DO IT!
bins I know you are a little ... Sweet child.

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Kk leaving my vote on you.K
Sns plz plz you are way townier

[gameplay506]

I am scum. If you are scum too it will make us buddies.

[gameplay506]

Mafia obv

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Lol just read everythimg. Em I think ZZZX starter this wagon more like a joke. And the scummiest on it so far seems kyndy.

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Actully
VOTE: kyndy
Your sheeping doesn't stay well with me. Both sheepings.

[gameplay506]

Also lets stop with the jokes. The previous two pages are full of shit. Hard to read shit.

[gameplay506]

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why hydras suck.

Do you even read your other head's thoughts? Communicate in any bit?

He's paranoid that you guys are about to get guillotined.

Back to the game..
I think a Shreddie lynch would be close to scum as we can get. By scum, I mean mason.

How did you decide that within 2 pages? I don't really think it is even right to say such a thing now.

Just... judging by the posts and interactions, I'm pretty comfortable with this lynch.

Interactions? What are you judging on lol. How many interaction could you get in a 9p game within the 2 pages? Could you quote those interactions?

Shreddie, u scum bro?

Vote: Shreddie

This whole wagon is really odd. ZZZX started it as joke wagon and yet some people took it as a serious one. Kyndy's reason for that vote was just scummy. Like what do you benefit from if you lynch someone on the second page? O am even wondering if yoy yourself believe your words kyndy.
Shreddies is mostly paranoid because they are getting wagoned on the second page for no reason. I would be paranoid too. Yet still there defensive post was just shit and I couldn't even follow the lacky logic in it

[gameplay506]

So both heads agree with kyndy's arguments? Sns' s vote wasn't good but yet it wasn't as scummy as kyndy's vote. She put you on L-1 for some really shitty reasons.

[gameplay506]

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why hydras suck.

Do you even read your other head's thoughts? Communicate in any bit?

He's paranoid that you guys are about to get guillotined.

Back to the game..
I think a Shreddie lynch would be close to scum as we can get. By scum, I mean mason.

How did you decide that within 2 pages? I don't really think it is even right to say such a thing now.

Just... judging by the posts and interactions, I'm pretty comfortable with this lynch.

Interactions? What are you judging on lol. How many interaction could you get in a 9p game within the 2 pages? Could you quote those interactions?

Shreddie, u scum bro?

Vote: Shreddie

This whole wagon is really odd. ZZZX started it as joke wagon and yet some people took it as a serious one. Kyndy's reason for that vote was just scummy. Like what do you benefit from if you lynch someone on the second page? O am even wondering if yoy yourself believe your words kyndy.
Shreddies is mostly paranoid because they are getting wagoned on the second page for no reason. I would be paranoid too. Yet still there defensive post was just shit and I couldn't even follow the lacky logic in it

ZZZX your Omgus here kinda resembles the omgus in the newbie game the three of us were.

[gameplay506]

Wtf don't look at this quote. How did I even quote it?

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Oh Jet Skies why are you so inactive?

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Ok. It's page 4. I honestly didn't care who I voted for.

I'm fine with my vote.

Yeahhhh.... no.

I'm fairly certain you read the words "speechlynch."

- B

Speechlynch? Nope.

Speedlynch? Link me to a normal game where someone was speedlynched by page 4. It doesn't happen. I was the third vote on you. We need five. Speedlynch my ass.

Actually this almost turned into a speedlynch. So this defence is kinda lacky.
But I agree with you because I myself thought it was a joke by ZZZX.

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I dont even care what you think(This was edited to avoid putting some insults here) but let me be clear

This whole post is crap but I'm honestly not sure if ZZZX is scum or town.

Actully
VOTE: kyndy
Your sheeping doesn't stay well with me. Both sheepings.

I can agree with this to an extent but I don't think kyndy was paying attention so I don't agree with it. Hopefully you understand?

Le

Get. Out.

Now can you shut the **** up about having a case and present a better one?

Your case is literally 3 super small subsections of the three long quotes that you quoted. You didn't need to quote both of them and put them into a spoiler but that made your post look ten times better, if everyone was skimming it. One of your analysis responses is "Lolk." Really?

Unvote, Vote: ZZZX

Wut da fuk. I hate long posts.

You have

got

to be kidding me.

Kinda wondering what changed for such a short period of posts?

Also BBT as I said I thought ZZZX was joking. And he was really trolly tho. So why do you think it was a serious wagon?

[gameplay506]

Kinda wondering what changed for such a short period of posts?

Nothing, just confirmed that this is ZZZX scum.

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So I actually agree with post 61 that ZZZX OMGUS'ses as scum and that is what bothers me in the ZZZX/BBT thing. Also after re-reading 61 the reasons there don't seem awful anymore and taking into account the speed of which this wagon developed I think Shreddies might be town.

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Maybe I will. I first want to see kyndy posting.

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Wait ZZZX I suck so don't take my words you know. I may be influenced scum because I am too naive
But no really I don't know what to make from this flailing. Right now I am leaning on desperate town flail. Yet I am going to sleep cus I can't think when I am sleepy.

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ZZZX I dont know if misunderstood me but I think you are NOT scum.
Jetskies hate to admit it to you but your last posts don't provide any info at all. Nor does your first post.

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Like can you enlighten me on your vote on me? Or why are you so inactive?

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Should I go and check if you posted in other games or you will convince that sin yourselves?

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Sleeping may wait. Hehm

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I think newbie 1510
And what was the sleep reference

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I said his OMGUS reminds me of his scum game, not his flail.

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Zzzx, if I were to vote on my gut again, I wouldn't even be saying this, because to me all your posts seem quite scummy. I'll go into this sometime later, because I'm just not sure about you or BBT right now..

How would your vote be gut if you're reading his posts as scummy? If his posts are scummy, you should be voting for him...that's what town do.

Ugh agreeing with this. That's why I am leaving my vote on kyndy.

ZZZX who are your scumreads?

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BBT is playing derb again

What did you mean by this?

Your bad way of playing is the reason scum can easily mislynch you. I am still not sure of your allignment but it leaning scum.

Only reason I am not 100% sure is because you did something scummy in 1510 but I cant be too sure.

Mainly your logic is as good as mine if not worse.

Also here is a little game of you. Make a single post and ask me anything you want. ANYTHING. ANd I will be sure to give you a satisfying answer

Ugh this looks a lot like a slip. And it's really contradictional.

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If you don't answer this somehow ZZZX I may reconsider whether voting you if good or bad.

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Ugh ZZZX sorry but you are being contradictional now. I agree with Hiraki about sns, I agree about theblurker beong 3 rd on your scumlist and I am also wondering why havent you voted Hiraki if you scumread him so much. You said you have voted BBT to see his reaction but why would you want to see reaction from the person second on your scumlist? Also your answer to the bolded slip I mentioned is really lacky.
VOTE: ZZZX
Sorry ZZZX but your recent posts and answers are just awful and full of crappiness.

[gameplay506]

Will catch up tonight. Or replace out. I hate games like this.

Yeah those walls are fuckin my eyes.

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Bins I suggest together with sal you read those walls. There is a lot of crap but there are some good points on ZZZX especially in the last posts

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Actually that post wasn't that out of the ordinary imo kyndy. Kyndy what do you think about his reads?
Bins I was like you when I sww those walls. I thougjt "why are theu even arguing lol?". But seeing ZZZX's reads and how much question marks they raise I just decided to go with ZZZX. Also I think if he gets lynched the wagon analysis ,if he is town, will prove fairly useful after seeing there are 2 people pushing his lynch so hard. Even if scum it may be useful.

[gameplay506]

Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiinsssssss. I FUKIN LOVE YUNOOOOOO

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Now I see that you are an otaku with good taste for anime. Gj bins, gj.
Sooo we will chat more post-game. Just so you know :d

[gameplay506]

That is nice. Wanna hear this too

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Meta on kyndy wouldn't be correct because she is still new and the way she is playing now could come from newb scum.

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Kyndy really needs more figuring cus she is new ans her play is showing this. Now I would like to turn for Jet skies if ZZZX doesn't happen because of those filler posts and inactivity. And gut

[gameplay506]

Counter claims? Someone? Anyone?

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Kk no need to give fast hammers.
UNVOTE:
I may vote if smb cc's but for now this is for the best

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Um hm bbt um hm
Shreddies I am townresding you so who do you wanna lynch?

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Can we put pressure here plsss

VOTE: Jet

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Lolz that blame. I hope it's a joke btw

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Yep I am updating. Now I will no longer act scummy as town. Jsyk

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Eh ZZZX you can go woth whoever you want. But jet needs pressuring. He is a hydra and still his inacitivity just blows me.

Mod could you replace Rubik? He hasn't posted anything sknce the start

[gameplay506]

Ok so I am townresding Shreddies and ZZX is confirmed. This is a nice wagon

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Ok going to sleep otherwise I will get too trolly bb

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I'd love to string him up, but we have plenty of time, so there's no need to be hasty. Also, BBT you're a townlean for me right now, and not in the good way. If ZZZX was lynched and flipped scum at this page, I'd be casting my gaze towards you.

Were you thinking that BBT was bussing ZZZX?

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What if he was town but wasn't expecting CCs cause maybe the actual tracker happens to be Rubik?

Why are you bothered by that scenario? Shouldn't you be bothered by he scum claiming tracker while the actual tracker being Rubik?

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Also, BBT you're a townlean for me right now, and not in the good way.

I have never had a bad(scummy?)town lean lol. Wanna hear this.

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Wait wait so according to you town are actually the majority(mafia), or the masons?

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Then why would you go after BBT if ZZZX flipped scum?

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Oh but usually scum refers to the bad guys. Lel k. Ignore my previous question

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I'd love to string him up, but we have plenty of time, so there's no need to be hasty. Also, BBT you're a townlean for me right now, and not in the good way. If ZZZX was lynched and flipped scum at this page, I'd be casting my gaze towards you.

Ugh then after knowing what you call town/scum I am gonna say that I don't like this especially the last sentence. Also why would you join a wagon together with one of your scumreads(or townreads whatever you call them)? I mean I usually judge a wagon by seeing which people jump on. If a scum read of mine happens to jump on the wagon I am , I may get kinda troubled and hesitant about this wagon. Oh and why did you start posting only after you got 3 votes on you?
Buttt I am told you guys this will work and the hydra would start posting!

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Eh not gonna get into a non-productive quarrel. Call them as you like.

[gameplay506]

Oh, you think that's why I'm posting?

I got really high, started checking my Mafia posts and then said, out loud, "Oh FUCK, my hydra!"

That is why I am here.

[gameplay506]

You are free to answer 299

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I'd love to string him up, but we have plenty of time, so there's no need to be hasty. Also, BBT you're a townlean for me right now, and not in the good way. If ZZZX was lynched and flipped scum at this page, I'd be casting my gaze towards you.

Ugh then after knowing what you call town/scum I am gonna say that I don't like this especially the last sentence.

Also why would you join a wagon together with one of your scumreads(or townreads whatever you call them)?

I mean I usually judge a wagon by seeing which people jump on. If a scum read of mine happens to jump on the wagon I am , I may get kinda troubled and hesitant about this wagon. Oh and why did you start posting only after you got 3 votes on you?
Buttt I am told you guys this will work and the hydra would start posting!

Lemme bold that for ya.

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How did you answer only my last question when to get to it you have to read my first(bolded) question? It makes me think you ignored it. Why?

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U-ugh ok. BBT do you like this answer?

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Who has played woth either Boon or espresso? Is boon so inactive? And has espresso been high before (lol)?
Also I will ask not espresso but the hydra in whole - who di you scumread? From head espresso I got that he has a slight scumlean(townlean or wthv) on BBT. Also could you explain it?
Oh and just to express my thoughts on your page analysis - I don't like it at all. It doesn't provide any info, it is only basically built out of "this is shit, that is crap".

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Oh and I found it hilarious how espresso was talking about ZZZX without knowing he claimed lol.

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Also I am i terested what kyndy will do now. I think I have a slight idea where she might vote.

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Oh god people you are confusing.

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@Kyndy - Who do you think is scum?

*sigh*
Really, my reads are all over the place.
BlueBloodedToffee - Null, leaning scum
gameplay506 - null, leaning town
Hiraki - null
Jet Skiies - null, leaning scum
BBMolla

RubikAshtray

- Null, leaning scum
Ki-Gi

snscompt1

- null
Square Shreddies - null, leaning town
ZZZX - Null, leaning town sometimes and leaning scum sometimes depending on how you look at things.


The reason everyone is also NULL is because you guys all flip flop in my reads every once in a while and you're all hard to define in one category.
(When I say town, I mean mafia. When I say scum, I mean masons.)

How didbyou come up with the ZZZX read :O
Didn't you unvote him just because he claimed and got uncc'd?

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L-1 on Jet.

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Jet claim

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Obv nothing. I thiught he was at L-1. What do you think I was doing?

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It's fairly obvious that Kyndy isn't even reading the game...I wonder what alignment she would be more likely to do this as. Hmm...

What allignemt she is more likely not to read the game? Um this is retarded.

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Hello everyone. Just read the thread at a rather brisk pace and here are my thoughts. Until someone goes against ZZZX's roleclaim, he is essentially a confirmed town (Mafia, I know) in my eyes. As for reads, I have semi-neutral reads on most of you but one read strongly leans scum, and that's Jet Skiies. Simply put, lurkers are scum, and Jet has even tried to excuse himself for lurking (Post #145). Post #140 looks to me like Jet Skiies knows that ZZZX is a confused, likely-to-be-lynched town so by defending him he'll gain the town's trust when ZZZX flips town after a lynch. The reason it seems this way is because the defense is so poor. Who defends an OMGUS? That's one of Jet's few posts where he actually tries to explain his actions, and that's out of a low post count anyway. I'll post all of my reads after a more thorough read of the thread but for now...

VOTE:

Jet Skiies

I actually like you. And I don't think sns woukd have replaced out as scum so yea

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I... Just...read...everythingm..from...page...15...to...22
So now seriously. I actually like Ki. He is trying to do some scumhunting and I like his post overall. Also I don't think sns would replace out as scum. I don't like how Mola is just throwing suspicions everywhere too. Mola how did you conclude I was scum from the first page lol? And I may quote some stuff later.
So now my townreads:ZZZX, Shreddies, Ki. That makes 4 players including me which I will hardly lynch today. Kyndy's reads list was soo bad it actually gave me a feeling of newbtown being confused. So now I have 5 townreads. I can say that now I think that 4 of the left players are the masons. Eh so now I will vote for:
VOTE: Hiraki
I just think this is right

[gameplay506]

I'll try to explain more tommorow. I am just tired now. Or I may quote some things. And reconsider things. Eh

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Actually I iso'ed Molla and I don't like it. May vote him tomorrow.

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Cus I need sleep :@ it sucks.
And yet eventhough I am sleepy I still stay on MS

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I don't like both Hiraki nor Mola. That's why tommorow. Sorry Boon. I know you scumread me

[gameplay506]

U Boon I said I may vote him, not I will vote him. Lol espresso just came and made me feel kinda better about your slot and now you are just destroying it :lets a tear out:

[gameplay506]

Well, of course you feel better about him. He doesn't have you worried you're going to slip up.

lol

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I suggest you contact espresso like now

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Yep it means I am not sure who I wanna vote more between Mola and Hiraki

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Lolz I don't fear him at all. He is annoying.

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Its Boon after all. How do you fear a Boon?

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The first quote is my amusement the second being afraid he will completely destroy your effort.

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You started posting, tried doing things, gave reads, read etc. The effort Boon never invested lol

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Hiraki the reasoms you brought up weren't that good you know. I feel like yoy are trying to come up with whatever you can.

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The first 10 posts from gameplay are basically "ZZZX is town, get off him" times a bazillion.

By the time gameplay changes his opinion, more people are agreeing. I think the top of the case is here which most people seemed to miss.

UUh Hir I changed my mind after ZZZX gave his reads and I said so. I don't see what's scummy there. Also where are those 10 posts? I don't see such thing in my iso lol

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This is the definition of a flip flop. Take note that gameplay fought against the idea of speed lynches.

Ugh what

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I just really cant catch the logic in your posts. Sorry hir. Also stop making walls

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I'm not ok with KiGi so I wont join this wagon. I think he has beem useful so far and I never saw something coming from scum.
It's true I haven't posted my reasons for Hiraki but that's mainly because my reasons are shallow and combined with gut. I still haven't iso'ed him and done my motive things on his pushes and all thebother things I do. Mainly my reason for voting him now is that he has been on only town players so far. First it was Shreddies who is one of my top townreads, then it was ZZZX who is confirmed town and in the end it's me and I know for myself that I am town. So basically being on all those wagons just doesn't sit well with me. Next to him is Molla. So I am ok with him too. Jet is so so.

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I am not sure honestly on BBT. Kinda need to iso him too.
Oh and another reason I am voting for Hir are his mad pushes on ZZZX. I guess this goes for BBT too tho.

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ki-gi -> gameplay

Unvote, vote: Ki-Gi

Ugh you sounded so sure in your case against me. What changed to turn on Ki?

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Ki wanna switch on Hiraki?
And I wanna know what is Square worth voting for?

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Dude. Are you listening to what Ki is saying?

Nope not much. Should I do an iso?

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I don't get why Hiraki is town. Writing walls isn't towny. Also I didn't like his mad push on ZZZX and it proved to be awful after ZZZX claimed tracker. And I also don't think Hiraki has been playing like a pr so far so I am not afraid of this.

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I usually have a problem with inactivity replacements. Like my top wagons for now would be Hiraki and Molla. But I don't know whether a inactive person can be scum ( I mean molla ). I don't know I just haven't seen one and that is why I put hiraki on top.
BBT still resembles the newbie we played in. Still aggresive. Still stupid ( ) . So yeah he is on third place together with Jet somewhere.

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I usually have a problem with inactivity replacements. Like my top wagons for now would be Hiraki and Molla. But I don't know whether a inactive person can be scum ( I mean molla ). I don't know I just haven't seen one and that is why I put hiraki on top.
BBT still resembles the newbie we played in. Still aggresive. Still stupid ( ) . So yeah he is on third place together with Jet somewhere.

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Dude. Are you listening to what Ki is saying?

Nope not much. Should I do an iso?

If you think. They haven't made much sense and they've been pretty damn flaily. Also OMGUS and just... I don't even know anymore. Their entry was also awful.

The biggest reason is their reasons for lynching are so mechanical. "THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO BE SCUM BECAUSE THEY DID THIS, WHICH IS ALWAYS SCUM, YEAH."

I usually flail a lot and I still do. You know me. And it's not alligment indicative imo. ZZZX OMGUS'ed too so I don't know what to think of OMGUS'ses in this game anymore. And yeah I just don't see the major scumminess. Also I stand by my "fact" that sns is really unlikely to replace out as scum.

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It's just that he replaced out not due to the fact of being pressured but because he was unwilling to read walls.

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ss is not in the game ;d

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ss is not in the game ;d

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Lol Jet why do you call this shit.

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I am sorry but I won't compromise on a Ki Gi lynch. Or at least that is how I see it for now. I may compromise on BBT tho but I am staying on Hiraki now.
I also don't get why people are against the Hiraki wagon when the only confirmed town here is on it lol.

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Mainly my reason for voting him now is that he has been on only town players so far. First it was Shreddies who is one of my top townreads, then it was ZZZX who is confirmed town and in the end it's me and I know for myself that I am town. So basically being on all those wagons just doesn't sit well with me.

Let's start with this.
I will quote things I don't like too

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Dude. Are you listening to what Ki is saying?

Nope not much. Should I do an iso?

If you think. They haven't made much sense and they've been pretty damn flaily. Also OMGUS and just... I don't even know anymore. Their entry was also awful.

The biggest reason is their reasons for lynching are so mechanical. "THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO BE SCUM BECAUSE THEY DID THIS, WHICH IS ALWAYS SCUM, YEAH."

I usually flail a lot and I still do. You know me. And it's not alligment indicative imo. ZZZX OMGUS'ed too so I don't know what to think of OMGUS'ses in this game anymore. And yeah I just don't see the major scumminess. Also I stand by my "fact" that sns is really unlikely to replace out as scum.

I already answered what you aksed about Ki.
I don't see him being scummy. I think you are going on a personal level now considering your fight with him earlier.
.

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I dont even care what you think(This was edited to avoid putting some insults here) but let me be clear

This whole post is crap but I'm honestly not sure if ZZZX is scum or town.

Kinda wondering what changed for such a short period of posts?

Nothing, just confirmed that this is ZZZX scum.

Ugh ye

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ki-gi -> gameplay

Unvote, vote: Ki-Gi

Ugh yeah this unvote considering he bothered to make a case on me and sounded so sure just isn't ok.

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My most relevant town read is BBT.

Oh Bins why didn't you question that btw

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Just reading through the whole ZZZX/Hiraki arguments I don't like how Hiraki is mostly commeting on stuff that aren't related to his case and just the whole nitpickiness

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A confirmed town that you all wanted to lynch, mind you.

Hm actually I had a town read on him until he presented his reads. And if you find this scummy shouldn't you be suspecting Hiraki a lot?

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I thought he was being scummy myself. I even posted about it AFTER he claimed. Do you find me scummy?

You are on third place in my four people I am willing to lynch today.

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So if you found him scummy yourself why did you need convincing he is scum?

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I already said some reasons.
And why do you think Ki is scum exactly?

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It's ironic how you ask for cases when at the same time you haven't provided any. lol

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Espresso what do you make of ZZZX being on Hiraki? Doesn't that slightly make you think Hiraki may be scum?

[gameplay506]

Espresso what do you make of ZZZX being on Hiraki? Doesn't that slightly make you think Hiraki may be scum?

What? Just because someone's conftown doesn't make their reads more right than other townies.

Their reads might not be more right but it proves that it isn't a scum manipulated wagon

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Espresso what do you make of ZZZX being on Hiraki? Doesn't that slightly make you think Hiraki may be scum?

What? Just because someone's conftown doesn't make their reads more right than other townies.

Their reads might not be more right but it proves that it isn't a scum manipulated wagon

Wtf? How? How do you know that ZZZX isn't being influenced at all by scum?

You have have hinted and implied several times that you find me scummy. Why arent you voting me yet?

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I don't get why Hiraki is town. Writing walls isn't towny. Also I didn't like his mad push on ZZZX and it proved to be awful after ZZZX claimed tracker. And I also don't think Hiraki has been playing like a pr so far so I am not afraid of this.

reminder that your vote is still pretty much an OMGUS

Hm no? Where did I state it's an OMGUS vote?

It's true I haven't posted my reasons for Hiraki but that's mainly because my reasons are shallow and combined with gut. I still haven't iso'ed him and done my motive things on his pushes and all thebother things I do.

Also note that gameplay is still asking everyone about his moves and you guys are just ignoring it like it's normal.

Lol where have I aksed anything? Why are you twisting it?

when the only confirmed town here is on it lol.

Because the only confirmed town means that he must be right? Especially since he was the first person to claim, no?

Your case against me right now is that ZZZX wants me dead and I can guarantee that his head is tainted with mindless revenge. You'd be stupid not to see it.

Hm why do you descredit ZZZX's vote by calling him a revenge vote?

Ugh ye

Right, and I already explained what I meant by this--since it seemed like you were confused--in a different post.

I'm glad you decided to post it, oh wait, you didn't.

Lol nice. So you are not trying to build a case, just to argue with me? Ye that's what you did with ZZZX too.

What I needed to distinguish was whether or not he was playing scummy as

scum

or playing scummy as

town

. I have a very good feeling it's the former from the previous post and these new posts.

I'm not surprised that you probably lulled over reading this though. I mean, why should be sure about a scum read, right?

Hm but later on you state you are sure ZZZX is scum. Why did you ignore that?

Ugh yeah this unvote considering he bothered to make a case on me and sounded so sure just isn't ok.

More people want Ki-Gi dead than you and I find that both of you are scum. Are you saying that I should just tunnel on one person now?

Keep in mind that you have changed votes as well in this game.

I have changed votes, but not like you. You make a case against me, and then when more people want to go on KI you suddenly jump on him. Opportunistic as hell. And again I am going with my theory that you focus only town players.

Just reading through the whole ZZZX/Hiraki arguments I don't like how Hiraki is mostly commeting on stuff that aren't related to his case

I'm glad there's examples of this and it really doesn't like you're just making up--oh wait, it does look like you're making up bullshit. I put my expectations much too high here.

Another descredit. Why isn't anyone noticing this? Like how I am making bullshit?

How do you know that ZZZX isn't being influenced at all by scum?

Because ZZZX is claimed town!!!!! He cannot be wrong!!!!!! He is of pure heart!!!!!!!

Here is more sarcasting descredit. Please. Just look at this.

Espresso isn't as convinced as I am

...really?

You know you are agreeing with Boon who is next to a terrible player? And he hasn't provided any case on why I am scum, he just screams "gp is scum". Lol and this agreeing with him is just awesome.

This post just looks so flaily. And overly aggresive

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Or a gameplay lynch honestly, I have to admit it does look like he's trying to buddy with me.

Terrible logic. When I townread you should I stay quiet when people want to lynch you? Is that how you do when you have a townread on someone?

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Why is this BBT lynch so hard to get

There are 7 people who want him dead in this game excluding BBT and myself.

I'll admit that I'm ballsy as scum but please open your eyes BBmolla. He's not scum and there are way too many people who want him dead.

So I guess let's lynch Square Shreddies because nobody wants them dead

This is a great answer and just proves how lacky is Hiraki's logic.

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Boon why can you enlighten me on why I am scum? Like really wanna hear what you can say.

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Another reason I am not jumping on Ki is because Hiraki is there. Sorry.

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BBT how do you feel about Hiraki defending you so hard, when at the same time you have only one vote on you?

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Ki so do you scumread Hiraki or not?

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BBT how do you feel about Hiraki defending you so hard, when at the same time you have only one vote on you?

I may be slightly biased, coz you know, I don't wanna die but it's nice to have at least one person in the game who doesn't want me lynched.

I don't think he would defend me like this if he was scum either. I really don't.

Why do you think so? Don't you feel like he was unecessary defending you earlier?

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Why is this BBT lynch so hard to get

There are 7 people who want him dead in this game excluding BBT and myself.

I'll admit that I'm ballsy as scum but please open your eyes BBmolla. He's not scum and there are way too many people who want him dead.

Votecount 1.12

BlueBloodedToffee (1) -

BBmolla

gameplay506 (0) -

Hiraki (2) -

gameplay506, ZZZX

Jet Skiies (0) -

kyndy101 (0) -

BBmolla (1) -

BlueBloodedToffee

Ki-Gi (2) -

Square Shreddies, Hiraki

Square Shreddies (1) -

Ki-Gi

ZZZX (0) -

Not Voting -

Jet Skiies, kyndy101

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Deadline in (expired on 2014-08-13 14:16:00) (August 13).

I don't see any reason for him to defend you now, when you are not even the leading wagon

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Actually it's obvious that if you scumread him you will lose the only player who is defending you. So it was kinda stupid of me to ask you such question.

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Oh ok. Sorry ;d

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Missed that one

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SS - Ki-Gi, BBT, maybe gameplay or jet idk

Hm why me? Wasn't I your top townread?

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So you wanna lynch me because I am not agreeing with you on Ki? Lol. So I should put you in my lynch list cus you don't wanna agree on Hiraki.

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It's not about staying quiet, it's that you've defended me without given a good reason to. Which I could really use since everyone thinks I'm scum by the way!

I gave my reasons for defending you.

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Hm Ki you are on L-1. So you can claim.
Also I suggest putting your vote on a viable wagon too.

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Well who do you find scummiest on your wagon?

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SS,Hiraki,Jet,Kyndy
L-1

Pedit: What? I never sheeped Ki anywhere. I started the wagon on you.

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Im on Hiraki.

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I'd also like to point out how hard Gameplay sheeped Ki-Gi on my slot.

~Espressojet

Let me quote that.

Hello everyone. Just read the thread at a rather brisk pace and here are my thoughts. Until someone goes against ZZZX's roleclaim, he is essentially a confirmed town (Mafia, I know) in my eyes. As for reads, I have semi-neutral reads on most of you but one read strongly leans scum, and that's Jet Skiies. Simply put, lurkers are scum, and Jet has even tried to excuse himself for lurking (Post #145). Post #140 looks to me like Jet Skiies knows that ZZZX is a confused, likely-to-be-lynched town so by defending him he'll gain the town's trust when ZZZX flips town after a lynch. The reason it seems this way is because the defense is so poor. Who defends an OMGUS? That's one of Jet's few posts where he actually tries to explain his actions, and that's out of a low post count anyway. I'll post all of my reads after a more thorough read of the thread but for now...

VOTE:

Jet Skiies

So hard sheeping? Where?

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That's what I'm on, haha. Why don't YOU get on a viable wagon?

Hm what? ;d

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You are not on Hiraki

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So, let me get everything straight.

You've already admitted that BBmolla has done something scummy while maintaining a defense of him entirely on the basis that he agreed with just

one

of your reads without providing any input himself, you ask the thread for good reasons to lynch BBmolla and Jet when you yourself don't think Jet is a bad lynch, you say that you would be down for a BBmolla lynch if he did "something" scummy even though I bring up again that you've already admitted that he is in fact scummy before, then you vote for me because I argued with you and you then go on to express anticipated disappointment in the thread if not everyone follows your anti-logic?

I don't think a townie could be that aggressively ridiculous in so many ways. You have to be buddying. And oh my god, you suck.

VOTE:

Square Shreddies

The last post you voted in.

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Where did I state it's an OMGUS vote?

Because you have to state that it's an OMGUS for it to be a true OMGUS?

But what actually makes you think it is an OMGUS vote? Voting second doesn't make it an OMGUS vote. It just seems like this is one of your many discredits.

Lol where have I aksed anything?

Multiple times, let me give you a refresher:

Shreddies I am townresding you so who do you wanna lynch?

Ugh sorry but that was just one time. And as you see I didn't vote who Shreddies wanted to. I just asked them who would they like to wagon. Simple as that.

Lol espresso just came and made me feel kinda better about your slot and now you are just destroying it

(meanwhile, espresso hasn't really posted)

Hm actually he posted. A lot. And so I don't get why you are intentionally ignoring that.

Hm why do you descredit ZZZX's vote by calling him a revenge vote?

How are you actually trying to act this dumb? You realize that I'm the person who actually remembers things, right?

Why are you dodging the question? Answer me and ZZZX.

Ugh ZZZX sorry but you are being contradictional now. I agree with Hiraki about sns, I agree about theblurker beong 3 rd on your scumlist and I am also wondering why havent you voted Hiraki if you scumread him so much.

You just find it

convenient

that you agreed with me about how ZZZX's play was abstract toward me and now that you're against me, you're siding with him because he's confirmed town?

His reads were scummy. So agreeing with you doesn't say anything. Not that I see any agreements coming from me tho. Also why are you using the whole "zzzx is conf. town but he is decieved by scum" discredit? By scum I understand myself and I am interested in how I influenced zzzx in any way. Wanna hear this out.

How do you people actually buy this garbage?

The real question is how much garbage can you fit in your walls?

Feel free to post a case that ZZZX has made on me. I

dare

you. You're buddying him like it's no one's business here and you haven't even taken a moment to step back to see if your tracks are covered.

First of all why should I post a case ZZZX has made on you? Is that connected with my arguments on you in any way? Secondly how I am buddying him? It is just a wrong accusation to call me on buddying him because he is on the wagon I am on. Also I would like to see some interactions that prove I am buddying him.

I'll show you the ones that I can find and discredit them. There's a reason I'm ignoring ZZZX now that's he's claimed and I can guarantee you that it doesn't have to do anything with fear.

Again things I haven't talked about. Why are you even mentioning this? Where have I said you feared him? And ignoring the conf. town is a bad idea. So yeah. Not getting the town motivation in that

a Hiraki/BBT team is likely because of thier interactions

If BBT dies and flips scum (read: town), then this is a perfectly valid argument. However, you can't call someone scum by association if you don't know if either of them are scum.

And I'm not posting anything before that because, I said previously, you agreed with me on that topic that ZZZX was acting weird. So therefore, you can't rely on those arguments unless you're going to admit you were lying or wrong (which furthermore means that you were actively pushing against someone, who is now a CLAIMED PR) unless you want to just claim scum (read: town) now.

Hm you know the post you quoted is from ZZZX? Also why should I say I was lying lol? Aren't I allowed to say something is scummy? And if we say I agreed with you for just one thing, what is the problem there? If let's say, I scumread you and join the wagon you'r on, yes there is a problem, but agreeing with you about something scummy is just invalid.

So you are not trying to build a case, just to argue with me?

No, I'm trying to push the point that you're not reading and you're assuming that everything you know and believe is completely 100% true.

How exactly are you trying to push that point? I am not seeing you pushing in that direction at all.

And then guess what I did after that! I posted that post to further explain why I did it! If I was trying to create an argument, I would not have re-quoted myself.

Ugh what is this?

Hm but later on you state you are sure ZZZX is scum. Why did you ignore that?

Because at that time, which was before the claim (and

I know

I need to say this because you'll just call me out on calling a claimed PR to be scum), I thought he was scum, which is why I pushed on him. You did the same.

I pushed him a lot latter and not because of the arguments you put up. So no sorry I didn't do the same as you. Don't try to pass the ball on me.

You make a case against me, and then when more people want to go on KI you suddenly jump on him. Opportunistic as hell.

I have a case on both you and Ki-Gi. That's not opportunistic. Flipflopping on BBT and voting him would be opportunistic.

I never saw a case on Ki. I saw you maing a case on me and then leaving it be.

And again I am going with my theory that you focus only town players.

And your theory kind of really sounds like you have inside information if you can tell that by going after

one person

that you also went after, that I am scum. Because I've gone after three people now, including yourself, and you're willing to say that you have a theory that I only go after town players when only one of them is confirmed town (to be fair, two of them are confirmed town to you--since you are one of my scumreads (read: townreads; I am going to do this for the rest of the game) while the third is a town read of yours.

So more passing the ball? And this explanation is lacky. You went after SS. Now I don't see you scumreading them. So you probably think they are town. You went after ZZZX. He is conf. town. You went after me. I know I am town. You went after Ki. I think his slot is town. Now why is my theory so bad?

Are you just annoyed that I don't agree with your reads? Because that's another scenario of this statement.

What makes you think so? Why are you even asking such a question when obviously I am not annoyed by people not agreeing with me?

Another descredit.

Really? You can't state

one thing

that appeals to you and I'm the suspicious one?

Why should I say something in your post appeals to me when obviously I think most of it useless and fluffy?

If you did something like this: (

WARNING: THIS IS COMPLETELY AN EXAMPLE AND IS NOT REAL

)

lol i know that bbt is town

uhhh guys??????

And you said something like that when no one caught on, then that would be completely fair game. Instead, you've just called it bullshit without giving any context to what part of it is bullshit and therefore, you're trying to discredit my entire case without actually finding what your grievances with it are.

I am not discrediting anything of your case. I will even quote the things that I called discredit and we will see if they were even part of your case.

On the flip side:

You know you are agreeing with Boon who is next to a terrible player?

This is a definite discredit.

But not directed to you. So this is not true that I discredited you here.

Boon why can you enlighten me on why I am scum?

You just called him a terrible player. Do you really care what he says?

He may be terrible but yet I need to determine whether he is townterrible or scumterrible. By explaining his logic I can do so.

I don't see any reason for him to defend you now, when you are not even the leading wagon.

Oh you have

got

to be fucking kidding me. There is

NO PLAUSIBLE WAY

you are actively reading this game and not skimming at this point.

Ugh ye I said I was wrong and apologised. I just thought SS was quoting a vc and that's why I missed that. No need to get discrediting, again.

Ugh ye so I am pretty interested what part of this was an actual case? Also the whole post was just passing the ball on me and no real information or arguments on why I am scum.

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Because ZZZX is claimed town!!!!! He cannot be wrong!!!!!! He is of pure heart!!!!!!!

I'm glad there's examples of this and it really doesn't like you're just making up--oh wait, it does look like you're making up bullshit. I put my expectations much too high here.

The two things I called discrediting. I don't see them case related at all. So mind explaining why you called me on discrediting case related things?

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Also your too aggresive why of answering/posting, almost flaily, just doesn't sit well with me at all.

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In post 831 the quotes I quoted are from a quote a post of mine and that is why they seem like I posted them. But it was Hiraki tho.

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Actually I am not that dumb Sally. I read the setup and I know no-killing is better if you are alone. Yet by reading Ki's openning reads I think it is amongt BBT, hiraki and Molla.
Also we should wait for ZZZX to give us his results. If he tracked someone to BBT it will be an auto.

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Actually reading his reads now I think it is between Hiraki and BBT. Molla could get a pass now.

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Hiraki wasn't it Ki>me? Why are you suddenly agreeing on BBT? Like scum could have no-killed or targeted BBT.

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the no-kill is a lot more likely. Everyone with half brain would know that.

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Also is that all you have to say?

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Eh BBT confenssed.

VOTE: BBT

Also ye sorry for the bad reads guys ;d

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SS is clear idiot.
And BBT confessed he is scum. Ugh

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Ah nice we won. ;d

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Hiraki wasn't it Ki>me? Why are you suddenly agreeing on BBT? Like scum could have no-killed or targeted BBT.

I am never playing with you again.

Do I look like I give a fuck?

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K