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In post 14, AngryPidgeon wrote:Nobody said you should claim.
Oh I misread what you said.
Stil meh. Parking vote here until something shinier happens.-
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In post 24, Jingle wrote:Tell Tail Hart, be aware that I have a bit of a mancrush on your brother
In post 25, kabooooom wrote:what if you are mafia?!
and claiming miller is just a precaution, in case cop checks you at night?!
Note to self: kill Kaboom first.
In post 25, kabooooom wrote:also, if you want a fun game, just claim a pgo when you are a miller
Is it too late for me to do this?-
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I usually waffle about my reads a lot and oftentimes lose sight of good tells and reads that I've had throughout the game.
When I put that there, it was mostly a note to myself that I really think KAbooom is town for his comment about me so Im going to do my best not to go back on that opinion (at least for Today).-
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In post 30, kabooooom wrote:also, AP has to be lynched till day 2, unless he is playing obv. town.
His attitude looks town. Other people are hemming and hawing about my claim and he is taking a hard stance on it. I like his aggression.-
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In post 46, Jingle wrote:Wrong. He's taking a stance that advocates the lynch of a player with reasoning he can hide behind should you flip town.
I guess my point is that its unnecessary for him to be so aggressive about it at this point as scum. I find the soft attacks on me way worse since those can really just vote me when they feel like it and use my role to justify it after. Kabooom is going to look bad imo. He is sticking his neck out and that is enough for me to not want to lynch him atm.
In post 47, BroodKingEXE wrote:The positioning of AP's joke about AP's alignment feels off to me. The joke itself is obv tension about Miller's actual role that Jingle knows about. I sense a Jingle and AP scum team. The naked bw vote on me feels way too opportuinistic feels like he is looking for a quick lynch.
Lol this is terrible. OMGUSing your wagon and trying to discredit it by saying its all coordinated and scum driven. Ya no. Further, I make jokes like that all the time always, ESPECIALLY as town. It has nothing to do with me being a miller. It has nothing to do with "tension". I'm sure you can explain why this joke is noteworthy though as opposed to just making an observation that I did in fact make one. How is it alignment indicative?
Also I mentioned that I thought you were scum before jingle voted you so your little comment about 'naked vote' is also just as scummy here. Rather than trying to figure out why town-me might think you are scummy (or whether that read was fake all along) you are painting it as scummy to discredit your wagon. And not really showing any interest in figuring out where Im coming from.
In post 48, kabooooom wrote:are u sure u know why i want AP to be lynched till day 2?
I cant even figure out what your are saying, tbh. Proper English grammar please.
In post 49, kabooooom wrote:why does it feel like OMGUS?
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In post 53, TellTaleHeart wrote:What is "the joke" you think is questionable?
In post 26, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 25, kabooooom wrote:what if you are mafia?!
and claiming miller is just a precaution, in case cop checks you at night?!
Note to self: kill Kaboom first.
In post 53, TellTaleHeart wrote:What did Jingle say and how did he treat the "tension" that makes you think he's mafia with AngryPidgeon?
This is a good question.
Are you blind? Kaboom is trying to PL me. Caled is calling me a liar. Brood is calling me scum with Jingle. You are ... voting me for pressure I guess, I'll be honest I haven't read your wall post yet. Oh and I probably have the top post count in the game. I'd love to hear why I need more pressure over anyone else though.-
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In post 57, kabooooom wrote:AP, i saw many of your games, but you have no post like this. however you mentioned that you usually forget, and it is for your reference. so can you just show in which of your completed games you have such posts.
No, Im fairly certain this is the first time I've ever done that explicitly.
I don't forget to make posts like this one..I regularly waffle on reads a lot and oftentimes lose sight of reads I have that are actually good and that I shouldn't be paranoid about. I dion't see what is so interesting about this post. I am making a note to myself that Im not willing to question that townread for the time being because of any paranoia. I think your posts in this game have been rather open and I think your attitude is town.-
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In post 69, Jingle wrote:AP, could you do me a solid and let me know when the last time you saw a miller was? TYIA.
I was going to say I can't remember, but actually..
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=44160-
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In post 88, Flubbernugget wrote:I'm starting to get the impression you just like hearing yourself talk. It's going to be a pain in the ass getting reads from you.
Town: Kaboom, Flubber, AP
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I found it funny that he said that you look like you like to hear yourself talk. I also thought that was a fairly townie post of him to make. I like to hear myself talk though, so I'm not just chuckling at your expense
I liked post 64. He is being very open about his thoughts in a stream of thoughts fashion and I like that he is advocating personal responsibility for himself. It shows pride in his play and a desire to improve and that, specially with new players, is a mindset that usually comes from town. Further, his vote on me was rather strong and I think scum would be a little hesitant to place down vote#3 on a semi-weak wagon and be so adamant about it.
Also in general he seems vested in solving the game and pursuing things that are interesting to him (that IC backandforth and the wagon on me).-
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In post 105, kabooooom wrote:2) Your read in post #31 is fake. i checked your ongoing game(mini:1584 after 8th aug when you make post #31) and i see opportunities(calling someone town) where you can make such a post but you dont do it. it seems nugget was right afterall.
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In post 105, kabooooom wrote:not really. Both your town reads are voting you. And you seem a bit too confident about your reads this early, which i find odd.
Should there be a reason why I think voting me is scummy? I think you and Flubber honestly think Im scum. Xayzeck Im null on at this juncture. If there is scum on my wagon, its probably him.-
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In post 105, kabooooom wrote:So you want me to take my vote from you, but you dont want to show me how BK is scum and convince me to vote for him?
Lol, I didn't say that I want you to vote BK although sure I think hes a good vote.
In post 56, AngryPidgeon wrote:Lol this is terrible. OMGUSing your wagon and trying to discredit it by saying its all coordinated and scum driven. Ya no. Further, I make jokes like that all the time always, ESPECIALLY as town. It has nothing to do with me being a miller. It has nothing to do with "tension". I'm sure you can explain why this joke is noteworthy though as opposed to just making an observation that I did in fact make one. How is it alignment indicative?
Also I mentioned that I thought you were scum before jingle voted you so your little comment about 'naked vote' is also just as scummy here. Rather than trying to figure out why town-me might think you are scummy (or whether that read was fake all along) you are painting it as scummy to discredit your wagon. And not really showing any interest in figuring out where Im coming from.-
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In post 109, Flubbernugget wrote:We shouldn't think you're scummy. Why are you so okay with us thinking you're scummy?
Clearly I'm not because I'm engaging Kabooooom over his bad vote : )-
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In post 131, Marquis wrote:Flubber reads as genuine cautious/paranoid townie to me ftr.
I agree with this. He is pursuing things that I personally don't find relevant but hes opinionated and paranoid, so town.-
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In post 132, caledfwitch wrote:ok im going to be honest here
i dont see why brood is scum crash course is needed pls
He received a scum role PM.-
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In post 130, Lying Cat wrote:Using Occam's Razor here, either AP decided to claim a negative utility role that often gets policy lynched in a setup that might not have a cop for towncred as scum, or AP is attempting to play miller in the most protown manner possible. I don't see another possible explanation. Considering I have never seen a miller onsite and AP has otherwise been very open with his reads, I'm willing to lean towards the latter and reconsider later.
What if Im a cop and just trolling everyone?-
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In post 149, caledfwitch wrote:In post 146, AngryPidgeon wrote:Also Jingle is mirroring a lot of my thoughts so Im willing to give him a pass for right now.
sheeping you = town????
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In post 154, AngryPidgeon wrote:I didn't use the word town, did I?-
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In post 174, Marquis wrote:Additionally, I'd also feel much better if you gave me all of your reads in your next post
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In post 178, Marquis wrote:Also now that you've posted to make me remember it, I dislike AP constantly taking the position of devil's advocate in regards to his own roleclaim. Part of me wants to call it scum overthinking the situation for someone in his position.
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If people are making objectively bad points, I can point them out. Obviously I'd rather not talk about my claim since from my P.O.V. its a waste of time, but I see no reason not to engage people on it if they want to talk about it.-
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In post 179, Flubbernugget wrote:Brood. Null. He's been here for a while for those prod dodges to not be legit. Like why would a 2 year old account lurk like that?
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I noticed the same thing then wondered if its because Myko is Dutch. Then I figured it could just be a phrasing thing regardless.-
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In post 247, TellTaleHeart wrote:In post 243, AngryPidgeon wrote:Actually Taletale, I was thinking Flubber is more likely Mafia than Werewolf.
What are you even talking about? Isn't "werewolf" just another name for "mafia"? The terminology might be a little different but I thought the idea was the same. Is it not?
Hm, I'm not quite sure where to begin explaining since some of this may be obvious to you, but:
There can be more than one scumteam or anti-town entity in games. It is somewhat common to see a mafia team and also a Serial Killer. In that case there are 2 anti-town factions and all 3 are competing against each other.
In normal games, werewolves are functionally the same as mafia (except with different flavor). It is possible that it is just werewolves in this game and no mafia. (Actually that is an interesting thought). I am assuming that there are 2 different scum teams though with 1-2 members each, one being the mafia and one being werewolves. Jingles flip + my role PM makes it very clear that either there is Mafia in the game or some roles in the game are purely here to confuse people.
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When I said I think Flubber is more likely mafia than Werewolf, that has a couple implications. Firstly, it means he didn't know Brood was scum. Part of your case on him involves him fencesitting on Brood in a way you think was intended to take a non-stance on a buddy whilst avoiding pushing him. This IS plausible and I see why you think it, but my gut thinks that Flubber is not on Brood's team if he is scum. I can explain that later, but continuing on: Secondly, If there ARE two anti-town teams, they will each get a kill every night. It could be beneficial to try and aim for a hypothetical 2nd werewolf so we are only dealing with 1 anti-town kill every night if we do succeed.
Now there was only one kill last night which could mean a couple things...
1) Its only werewolves and no mafia - my role (and probably others) are red herrings.
2) There was only one werewolf and this is 6:2:1 or 7:1:1
3) A kill was stopped or both teams killed jingle.
Honestly I don't know what is more likely. Common sense would indicate that 5:2:2 in a micro is insane unless its stacked with power and there is likely investigative things on both scumteams. Its possible Its just 2 werewolves and a lot of this is just there to confuse.