micro 372: game over

[AngryPidgeon]

VOTE: BroodKingEXE
<insert witty RVS post here>

[AngryPidgeon]

Oh also I'm a miller.

[AngryPidgeon]

UNVOTE: ; VOTE: Flubbernugget

[AngryPidgeon]

I didn't understand why you made post 9.

[AngryPidgeon]

Nobody said you should claim.

I have a negative utility town role and protocol is to claim it right away.

[AngryPidgeon]

Nobody said you should claim.

Oh I misread what you said.

Stil meh. Parking vote here until something shinier happens.

[AngryPidgeon]

There is nothing confusing about my claim. I am a miller. If a cop investigates me, I will show up as if I were mafia.

[AngryPidgeon]

Tell Tail Hart, be aware that I have a bit of a mancrush on your brother

what if you are mafia?!
and claiming miller is just a precaution, in case cop checks you at night?!

Note to self: kill Kaboom first.

also, if you want a fun game, just claim a pgo when you are a miller

Is it too late for me to do this?

[AngryPidgeon]

Town: Kaboooom
---^line of no return^---
Meh-town: Xayzeck, Jingle
Even more meh town, but probably town nonetheless: TellTaleHeart
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Brood/Nugget scum team?

[AngryPidgeon]

I usually waffle about my reads a lot and oftentimes lose sight of good tells and reads that I've had throughout the game.

When I put that there, it was mostly a note to myself that I really think KAbooom is town for his comment about me so Im going to do my best not to go back on that opinion (at least for Today).

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also, AP has to be lynched till day 2, unless he is playing obv. town.

His attitude looks town. Other people are hemming and hawing about my claim and he is taking a hard stance on it. I like his aggression.

[AngryPidgeon]

Actually that's just me. I haven't showered in like a week.

If you think I'm lying then vote me.

[AngryPidgeon]

VOTE: Broodking

[AngryPidgeon]

Derp da derp derp derrrrrr

[AngryPidgeon]

Wrong. He's taking a stance that advocates the lynch of a player with reasoning he can hide behind should you flip town.

I guess my point is that its unnecessary for him to be so aggressive about it at this point as scum. I find the soft attacks on me way worse since those can really just vote me when they feel like it and use my role to justify it after. Kabooom is going to look bad imo. He is sticking his neck out and that is enough for me to not want to lynch him atm.

The positioning of AP's joke about AP's alignment feels off to me. The joke itself is obv tension about Miller's actual role that Jingle knows about. I sense a Jingle and AP scum team. The naked bw vote on me feels way too opportuinistic feels like he is looking for a quick lynch.

Lol this is terrible. OMGUSing your wagon and trying to discredit it by saying its all coordinated and scum driven. Ya no. Further, I make jokes like that all the time always, ESPECIALLY as town. It has nothing to do with me being a miller. It has nothing to do with "tension". I'm sure you can explain why this joke is noteworthy though as opposed to just making an observation that I did in fact make one. How is it alignment indicative?

Also I mentioned that I thought you were scum before jingle voted you so your little comment about 'naked vote' is also just as scummy here. Rather than trying to figure out why town-me might think you are scummy (or whether that read was fake all along) you are painting it as scummy to discredit your wagon. And not really showing any interest in figuring out where Im coming from.

are u sure u know why i want AP to be lynched till day 2?

I cant even figure out what your are saying, tbh. Proper English grammar please.

why does it feel like OMGUS?

When did BroodKing say anything about OMGUS?

[AngryPidgeon]

What is "the joke" you think is questionable?

what if you are mafia?!
and claiming miller is just a precaution, in case cop checks you at night?!

Note to self: kill Kaboom first.

What did Jingle say and how did he treat the "tension" that makes you think he's mafia with AngryPidgeon?

This is a good question.

And I see next to no pressure on this wagon.

vote AngryPidgeon

Are you blind? Kaboom is trying to PL me. Caled is calling me a liar. Brood is calling me scum with Jingle. You are ... voting me for pressure I guess, I'll be honest I haven't read your wall post yet. Oh and I probably have the top post count in the game. I'd love to hear why I need more pressure over anyone else though.

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AP, i saw many of your games, but you have no post like this. however you mentioned that you usually forget, and it is for your reference. so can you just show in which of your completed games you have such posts.

No, Im fairly certain this is the first time I've ever done that explicitly.

I don't forget to make posts like this one..I regularly waffle on reads a lot and oftentimes lose sight of reads I have that are actually good and that I shouldn't be paranoid about. I dion't see what is so interesting about this post. I am making a note to myself that Im not willing to question that townread for the time being because of any paranoia. I think your posts in this game have been rather open and I think your attitude is town.

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Kaboom metadiving me to look for consistency is even more reason to think hes town btw.

Starting to wonder if team is Brood/Jingle :S

[AngryPidgeon]

AP, could you do me a solid and let me know when the last time you saw a miller was? TYIA.

I was going to say I can't remember, but actually..

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=44160

[AngryPidgeon]

Why are we talking about the intricacies of an IC's play from another game? >.>

[AngryPidgeon]

Broodking is scum. He is being wagon ed because he is scum.

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I'm starting to get the impression you just like hearing yourself talk. It's going to be a pain in the ass getting reads from you.

Town: Kaboom, Flubber, AP
Probably Town: TellTaleHeart

[AngryPidgeon]

huh?

Have you never seen a reads list before?

[AngryPidgeon]

I found it funny that he said that you look like you like to hear yourself talk. I also thought that was a fairly townie post of him to make. I like to hear myself talk though, so I'm not just chuckling at your expense

I liked post 64. He is being very open about his thoughts in a stream of thoughts fashion and I like that he is advocating personal responsibility for himself. It shows pride in his play and a desire to improve and that, specially with new players, is a mindset that usually comes from town. Further, his vote on me was rather strong and I think scum would be a little hesitant to place down vote#3 on a semi-weak wagon and be so adamant about it.

Also in general he seems vested in solving the game and pursuing things that are interesting to him (that IC backandforth and the wagon on me).

[AngryPidgeon]

Hey Kabooom, wanna talk about why you are voting for town?

[AngryPidgeon]

I'm being open about my reads.
My case for you town and Nugget town is good.
I'm voting for probable scum.
I'm a non-VT role.

[AngryPidgeon]

2) Your read in post #31 is fake. i checked your ongoing game(mini:1584 after 8th aug when you make post #31) and i see opportunities(calling someone town) where you can make such a post but you dont do it. it seems nugget was right afterall.

Don't talk about ongoing games, least of all ones which I'm alive in you jackass.

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not really. Both your town reads are voting you. And you seem a bit too confident about your reads this early, which i find odd.

Should there be a reason why I think voting me is scummy? I think you and Flubber honestly think Im scum. Xayzeck Im null on at this juncture. If there is scum on my wagon, its probably him.

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So you want me to take my vote from you, but you dont want to show me how BK is scum and convince me to vote for him?

Lol, I didn't say that I want you to vote BK although sure I think hes a good vote.

Lol this is terrible. OMGUSing your wagon and trying to discredit it by saying its all coordinated and scum driven. Ya no. Further, I make jokes like that all the time always, ESPECIALLY as town. It has nothing to do with me being a miller. It has nothing to do with "tension". I'm sure you can explain why this joke is noteworthy though as opposed to just making an observation that I did in fact make one. How is it alignment indicative?

Also I mentioned that I thought you were scum before jingle voted you so your little comment about 'naked vote' is also just as scummy here. Rather than trying to figure out why town-me might think you are scummy (or whether that read was fake all along) you are painting it as scummy to discredit your wagon. And not really showing any interest in figuring out where Im coming from.

[AngryPidgeon]

We shouldn't think you're scummy. Why are you so okay with us thinking you're scummy?

Clearly I'm not because I'm engaging Kabooooom over his bad vote : )

[AngryPidgeon]

*swoops into thread*

Sup.

Hey guys lets lynch Brood or Jingle rather than voting townies. What do you say?

[AngryPidgeon]

Flubber reads as genuine cautious/paranoid townie to me ftr.

I agree with this. He is pursuing things that I personally don't find relevant but hes opinionated and paranoid, so town.

[AngryPidgeon]

ok im going to be honest here

i dont see why brood is scum crash course is needed pls

He received a scum role PM.

[AngryPidgeon]

I mean look Caled. your vote on Marquis is glorified OMGUS and "omg he voted and unvoted Brood".

[AngryPidgeon]

Using Occam's Razor here, either AP decided to claim a negative utility role that often gets policy lynched in a setup that might not have a cop for towncred as scum, or AP is attempting to play miller in the most protown manner possible. I don't see another possible explanation. Considering I have never seen a miller onsite and AP has otherwise been very open with his reads, I'm willing to lean towards the latter and reconsider later.

What if Im a cop and just trolling everyone?

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Caled I like how you ignored me calling your case on Marquis bad.

I repeat. Your case on Marquis is a load of bullocks and you are quite possibly scum.

[AngryPidgeon]

I would vote Caled Today. I don't have a townread on him at all.

[AngryPidgeon]

Also Jingle is mirroring a lot of my thoughts so Im willing to give him a pass for right now.

[AngryPidgeon]

I didn't use the word town, did I?

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What if I my buddy is a Godfather? Red Coyote claimed miller in one game when he was a goon with a godfather buddy.

So meh. Marquis's point isn't wholly valid, but I still think he is probably town.

[AngryPidgeon]

Ok, Im not going to argue against that point since its in favor of me being town, which I am, but I find it somewhat irrelevant.

[AngryPidgeon]

I do sincerely hope there is no GF in this game. Probably a blocker or something, but meh. GFs suck to play against.

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Also Jingle is mirroring a lot of my thoughts so Im willing to give him a pass for right now.

sheeping you = town????

confuzzled

I didn't use the word town, did I?

[AngryPidgeon]

Additionally, I'd also feel much better if you gave me all of your reads in your next post

Dearest flubber, please advise ^

[AngryPidgeon]

Also now that you've posted to make me remember it, I dislike AP constantly taking the position of devil's advocate in regards to his own roleclaim. Part of me wants to call it scum overthinking the situation for someone in his position.

-shrug-

If people are making objectively bad points, I can point them out. Obviously I'd rather not talk about my claim since from my P.O.V. its a waste of time, but I see no reason not to engage people on it if they want to talk about it.

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Brood. Null. He's been here for a while for those prod dodges to not be legit. Like why would a 2 year old account lurk like that?

Wait until you meet MafiaSSK.

[AngryPidgeon]

We could just lynch him.

[AngryPidgeon]

I've been calling him scum you know. The one post he made was less than town.

[AngryPidgeon]

I'll make a better post later, but we aren't lynching Flubber, Jingle. Flubber is town.

[AngryPidgeon]

Hey guys, I'm feeling largely apathetic about this game and I don't really know why, so give me like 24 hours to reset myself and get back in the swing of things.

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Huh.

Are we seriously looking at 6:2:1 or 7:1:1 or something? 5:2:2?

I have no idea what to think right now given only one kill and a werewolf flip. My role PM makes me 100% aware there are mafia in the game (or at the very least some number of red herrings) so I am confused.

Bah Jingle : (.

[AngryPidgeon]

Are you being intentionally dense?

[AngryPidgeon]

BroodKingEXE, the

werewolf

, was lynched.

Jingle, town seer, was killed night 1

"the"

hm

I noticed the same thing then wondered if its because Myko is Dutch. Then I figured it could just be a phrasing thing regardless.

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Not going to read too much into it. Im guessing the setup is 6:2:1 with that being the only WW, but not sure.

[AngryPidgeon]

Bad vote.

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I want Marquis to explain why he 180'd on me over what I said about the modpost.

Before he does though, I'd like to clarify that my reason for suspecting 6:2:1 is purely setup spec and nothing to do with the grammar in Myko's post.

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Actually Taletale, I was thinking Flubber is more likely Mafia than Werewolf.

[AngryPidgeon]

I kind of want to lynch marquis, but I don't think he is mafia. If hes scum, hes a werewoof.

[AngryPidgeon]

But eliminating an entire faction if this IS 5:2:2 (my god) would be fabulous to do as we can probably just game solve by massclaiming after that.

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Actually Taletale, I was thinking Flubber is more likely Mafia than Werewolf.

What are you even talking about? Isn't "werewolf" just another name for "mafia"? The terminology might be a little different but I thought the idea was the same. Is it not?

Hm, I'm not quite sure where to begin explaining since some of this may be obvious to you, but:

There can be more than one scumteam or anti-town entity in games. It is somewhat common to see a mafia team and also a Serial Killer. In that case there are 2 anti-town factions and all 3 are competing against each other.

In normal games, werewolves are functionally the same as mafia (except with different flavor). It is possible that it is just werewolves in this game and no mafia. (Actually that is an interesting thought). I am assuming that there are 2 different scum teams though with 1-2 members each, one being the mafia and one being werewolves. Jingles flip + my role PM makes it very clear that either there is Mafia in the game or some roles in the game are purely here to confuse people.

--

When I said I think Flubber is more likely mafia than Werewolf, that has a couple implications. Firstly, it means he didn't know Brood was scum. Part of your case on him involves him fencesitting on Brood in a way you think was intended to take a non-stance on a buddy whilst avoiding pushing him. This IS plausible and I see why you think it, but my gut thinks that Flubber is not on Brood's team if he is scum. I can explain that later, but continuing on: Secondly, If there ARE two anti-town teams, they will each get a kill every night. It could be beneficial to try and aim for a hypothetical 2nd werewolf so we are only dealing with 1 anti-town kill every night if we do succeed.

Now there was only one kill last night which could mean a couple things...
1) Its only werewolves and no mafia - my role (and probably others) are red herrings.
2) There was only one werewolf and this is 6:2:1 or 7:1:1
3) A kill was stopped or both teams killed jingle.

Honestly I don't know what is more likely. Common sense would indicate that 5:2:2 in a micro is insane unless its stacked with power and there is likely investigative things on both scumteams. Its possible Its just 2 werewolves and a lot of this is just there to confuse.

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Scumhunting and lynching scum are two different things. And voting for caled doesn't count as scum hunting.

I dunno, I think Caled votes are probably pretty protown at this point.

I sort of want to lynch Marquis though.

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Thats cool and all, but I think you are a Werewolf Cop and likely suspect Im mafia incorrectly.

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Obviously you didn't investigate me and I didn't say you did.

And your leap from Town to Werewolf on me makes sense? Gimme a break. Its what made me start thinking about you in the first place. Further, your vote on Brood followed by unvoting because "I dont like 2/3 of the wagon" is scummy as hell.

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I think the only faction is the Werewolf one, and if you were a Werewolf the Miller claim would be a perfect way to intentionally mislead the town whether a Werewolf/Seer already flipped or not.

Nope. It is really silly to think that I, as a Werewolf scum, would claim miller. That serves no purpose but to draw attention to me from the getgo and come back to me later on as an obvious fakeclaim that I have to backpedal out of. Thats not a situation I would risk as scum.

Basically I don't think there's a Miller, and that you're a Werewolf who tried to throw smoke around with the claim.

The first part of this sentence is probably true, the latter half makes no sense. I think you are overplaying your inside info as scum a bit much here, Marquis.

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And why only call me out on that vote now? You had plenty of chances to do so earlier if you really think I'm scum.

Uhhhh, plenty of chances being < 24 hours? I barely posted on site last night except to try and get the review for my large theme kicked off. I certainly didn't spend much time critically thinking about this game. When I sat down this morning and gave it some consideration, I got a little paranoid and dove off the deepend with setup spec. But ya, I definitely had blatant scum motive in taking about a day to get suspicious of your 180 on me.

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No, I believe that you genuinely don't believe my claim.

But I think your stated reason for disbelieving it is a lie.

[AngryPidgeon]

Kaboom and Xayzeck? Naw.

[AngryPidgeon]

At this point I'm just waiting to see if Kaboom has any amazing insight and for Telltale to give her opinion on wagoning Marquis.

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I'd work with you on Marquis, but I'm now kind of wondering why you're waiting on me to vote him.

I thought Marquis was town Yesterday. I think I see have good reason to think he is scum, but a lot of that is predicated on setup speculation. I think he may be the optimal lynch Today, but I could be going off the deepend here. Want to make sure I'm not insane.

I need to reread here a bit, I'm having a hard time figuring out who I WOULDN'T wagon right now, lol.

[AngryPidgeon]

VOTE: TellTaleHeart

[AngryPidgeon]

I'm playing to a town wincon by voting for people who are not town.

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^ No, probably not.

This isn't 5:2:2 or I'll shank Mykonian. So I was probably just being dumb.

We should totes lynch TelltaleHeart though. The siren sings seductive songs. fortunately, I am immune.

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I dislike TTH's connections with Broodking. I get the distinct impression that she wanted to be on the wagon for credit, but kept trying to pursue other things and encourage him to post by calling him a lurker. I thought, comparatively, Flubbernugget's interactions are way townier. He genuinely looks like he had no idea what to think of Brood. His null read there is understandable, and I find it unlikely that he would keep calling Brood a PL and casting doubt on that lynch as a buddy. Its possible that he would, but I think he would feel way too much guilt about doing that if he knew Brood was scum and I am not seeing anything that looks like guilt here. TTH calling him scum for listing Brood as null is really contrived and feels like an easy point to shove. Calling Brood null really does not mean much, why is it so unlikely that Flubber is town and was being cautious? TTH herself kept calling him a lurker and demanding more activity, that isn't so much different from Flubber's perspective except Flubber explicitly called him null and TTH ultimately just said "Im not waiting" and wagoned him. I dislike her pressure on Flubber for that (honestly, what do you expect a townie to think about Brood?) Its not unreasonable for someone to null read him. I would say its unreasonable to townread him, but no one was and he got lynched for mostly that reason. Calling him null-scum would be the worst offense IMO and that is sort of what TTH did w/o saying it.

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caled this whole game you've just been like "why aren't you you voting for me HUH" and I don't know what to think of that. It reminds me of AP playing devil's advocate.

Are we both scum then? I'm back to very much hoping that this setup is 7:2 and there are red herrings rather than 5:2:2 (or even 6:2:1) since those are fairly egregious.

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apathetic town is what's happening, but i'm trying to break out of that

Ugh metal sonic sort of said something similar in OC mafia and was scum >.>

Stop making me doubt your alignment.

[AngryPidgeon]

pops in occasionally to make non-alignment indicative comment, often just an obvious statement/fact
no self-investing analysis of any sort
purposefully detached scum

Uhhhh. That makes him a lurker. That doesn't make him scum. Not saying I have a strong townread on him or anything cause I don't, but this is silly.

[AngryPidgeon]

Ugh, L - 2?

Does that mean I actually have to give a darn about this game?

[AngryPidgeon]

I'm practically conftown for ramming a lynch on Broodking, come on.

[AngryPidgeon]

That's impressive given the lurk mass. I mean I'm really clearly not ww scum.

[AngryPidgeon]

Also I may have forgot but I didn't like her response to my wall about the difference between mafia and ww.

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Daily reminder that TTH should probably be lynched.

[AngryPidgeon]

I could real claim if that would progress things.

I'm a deputy (backup cop).

[AngryPidgeon]

I didn't say that he couldn't, I said that his assertion that he is scum is bad.
Nothing? And you?
Because Im good at the game

[AngryPidgeon]

Why did he claim miller in the first place?

So the cop didn't waste an investigation on me.
So I could coast into late game and get investigates off if the cop ever died and likely not get NKd.
For the lolz.

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AP didn't want to be investigated.

Correct.

he absolutely insists that there is a "mafia" faction in post 224, but that doesn't fit with either claim.

Yes? Of course I thought there was a mafia faction. I was rather stunned by the werewolf flip and then immediately started talking about how I thought the game was 2 scum factions or just had a notable amount of red herrings in it. There is no contradiction there.

how does he have this extra information that there's a Mafia faction?

Because if there is no mafia faction, my role is pointless and a red herring? Pointless roles *generally* don't exist, doubly so in Normal games.

"Why are you so seemingly convinced that AP's claim is true?"

Because I'm really obviously town this game?

[AngryPidgeon]

This also accounts for the 5:2:2 possibility

I strongly hope that isn't the case. That would be a horrifying setup.

[AngryPidgeon]

I could vote Kabooom Today.

[AngryPidgeon]

Not sure what to think of the AP "realclaim". The vote stays though.

Dont tell me you drew too many scum cards and forgot how to play town.

[AngryPidgeon]

>.>

<.<

>.>

<.<

I only ever trollclaim when I am town and have a PR I think will make me obvtown and I just dont care.

[AngryPidgeon]

kaboom who the hell is "pokemon"

Dont think too hard about it.

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Because if there is no mafia faction, my role is pointless and a red herring? Pointless roles *generally* don't exist, doubly so in Normal games.

Alright. Unless caledwitch or Marquis or anyone else who's been on this site a while has anything different to say about this, I'll take your word for it.

Account for your read on Marquis, please.

Eh, I'll get around to making a reads list shortly. I dont actually know how I feel about Marquis. My scumread at day start was a kneejerk that happened because of sketchy setup spec.

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tell me what do you think is most probably the case? And if it not that, what is your second openion? Also state reasons for why you think that setup will be balanced.

No.

I'm not going to go diving into setup spec, that was a mistake and I don't think setup spec is a useful idea right now.

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you are neither at l-1 not near the dead line. So why did you claim? Your claim will make you a tagt. For mafia. If you really claimed miller so cop doesnt wasted his investigation on you and in case he dies scums doesnt kill you, so why throw your plans for waste? And even when you are not at risk of getting lynched?

Because I felt like it and because nothing was happening here. Because Im starting to wonder if there even is a mafia team in this game. I am at risk of getting lynched, lol.

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There isn't anything concrete to support any relevant setup spec and there is really nothing to gain from it at this point unless you want to either use it to believe or disbelieve my claim, in which case my opinion on the matter shouldn't really be relevant.

If I -had- to guess, I'd guess its 7:2 with 2 werewolves. I guess 6:2:1 with 2 mafia would be the next most likely thing. My reasons for thinking this is purely what I hope to be the case and certainly not what I have any great reason for thinking is.

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"Sketchy setup spec"? By you or Marquis? If I recall correctly, you called Marquis a "Werewolf Cop". That's a really specific accusation for being knee-jerk. I see something about how you thought that implied extra knowledge on Marquis' part, but how exactly did you arrive at that?

My end, obviously. I guess I was thinking we were looking at something like

Werewolf
Werewolf Cop
Mafia
Mafia Backup Seer
Seer
Backup Cop
??
??
??

And Marquis's sudden scumread made no sense to me so I justified it with thinking that he is the last WW and he genuinely thought I was mafia faking miller.

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My phn bat. Is low, and IM going to sleep. But..
1) you were nit at the risk if getting lynched because,
a) you are at l-2
b) the deadline was 1 and half week far.
c) tell me which player, were you afraid who would quickhammer you?

I still have couple if questions, but later.

This is some really contrived bullshit, Kaboom.

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It's beyond the realm of reasonability. I will likely never join another mykonian game if there are 4 group scum in a normal micro. That's how ridiculous it is. Like town can lynch scum every day and still lose.

I'm not saying marquis read flip on me makes him scum, in fact I said that my previous read there was on need of review. Wouldn't you be suspicious if someone 180d on you for .. reasons?

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Oh right I just remembered my logic. Marquis said he didn't believe my miller claim. He then argued that I was a ww and that I faked miller for town cred once a ww flipped. I find that reasoning to be laughable and figured he can't actually believe something so wrong. So the most logical leap to me is that marquis believed I was lying but had reasons to know that that a townie wouldn't have. Like he is a ww cop and thinks my fake claim is from maf and a lie.

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Not necessarily. He can say he thinks I'm lying and that won't get him anywhere. If he expects to be taken seriously he needs to provide some justification, his alignment aside. I think scum is actually more likely to provide justification than town.

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i just want to say that ap's miller claim fucked us up
that is all

Uhhh, ok?

[AngryPidgeon]

Let's revisit your opinion on Xayzeck, because I'd like to do that.

What is it, by the way? I'm getting from your earlier posting that it's probably null. Is this right?

I'm not really interested in lynching Xayzeck.

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Don't mind Kaboom, he seems to have drawn scum.

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Nothing. I saw AngryPidgeon on the activity section of the forum and I voted him in the hopes it would get his attention and he would post something. I was disappointed.

Ha. I noticed but I had no idea what to say and assumed it was in response to the VC anyhow.

Do you think Marquis is town?

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You guys are scum together aren't you.

[AngryPidgeon]

I already like you more than Kaboom

[AngryPidgeon]

It's not a miller claim.

He just "realclaimed" Deputy.

You probably talk about Game of Thrones spoilers all the time don't you?

[AngryPidgeon]

Ugh. Stop making me not want to lynch you. UNVOTE: to prevent derp hammer for now.

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AtE is a nulltell. :/

Wrong. But I didnt say I thought it wasnt, did I?

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I'm drunk. What's up. Who wants to talk to drunk ap?

[AngryPidgeon]

Im the most unmotivated of all. Why are we lynching Xay?

[AngryPidgeon]

VOTE: Feirei

\o/

[AngryPidgeon]

Like Xayzeck is a really shitty lynch, guys.

[AngryPidgeon]

Im the most unmotivated of all. Why are we lynching Xay?

Why did you decide to vote Fei over Caled?

And also the TTH thing, because I was considering your vote on TTH for quite a while so I just held off my vote.

Is it something you still want or has Fei taken priority? (if applicable: why has fei taken priority?)

Caled hasn't really been on my radar all game. I've been debating internally between Marquis/TTH/Kaboom for a while. Let me waffle for a bit.

Marquis: I still dislike his interactions with the modpost and with me at the beginning of the Day. I think that makes him likely to be a 2nd werewolf in all probability (if there is one). I didn't think his interactions with Broodking were extremely likely to be scum/scum though so I'm a little bit torn on that end.

TTH: Ehhhhh. I really didn't like her interactions with Broodking. She sort of ended up sheeping me and Jingle over there and kept trying to get Brood to post more. She kept some options open and kept calling Brood a lurker and finally is like "lol I give up" and votes him. It really read like a plausible desperation bus that she didn't want to be on, but decided to pursue because there was pressure that wasn't going away. I could also just see her being non-Brood scum and dressing up a fake scumread there like that, so eh. It just read really hedgy to me and I didn't like her emotions/attention with the whole matter. I also didn't like her case on Flubber trying to connect him to Brood when Flubber's attitude there really does make sense for town to have, but TTH is seemingly ignoring that.

Kaboom: Ew, I don't know. Votepark on me D1 sucked. TBH this read needs more careful rereading on my end. On consideration of Feirei's entry, I really didn't like it so I opted to vote it.

[AngryPidgeon]

feirei lynch is worse

VOTE: ap

Your read on me sucks.

[AngryPidgeon]

Hm.

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I miss Jingle.

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can we please just lynch xay today and go after tth or fei tomorrow

No.

[AngryPidgeon]

Hey Xay, I don't think you are in a position to make recommendations, Mr. Lurksack. Like you've given a stance on anything in the past Day phase.

[AngryPidgeon]

Well I've been out of town due to personal issues and what not.

I'm town though : ). And I see 2 votes on me in what could be lylo. Guess I'll actually read here now. But I'm in a car so bear with me.

[AngryPidgeon]

demoralizing is a better word choice

Shrug. I disagree. Well you morons lynched my strongest townread yesterday so thanks for that. And caled was my next best : (

[AngryPidgeon]

Hey marquis let's unvote me before feireis scum buddy hammers me

[AngryPidgeon]

Ok so I saw that crap case that is 200% based on my role and not my play which is town. I don't have a good response to it because obviously deputy looks retarded in this situation and I can't argue that.

My only defense is that I'm not a retard. As scum I wouldn't fake miller as a ww and I certainly wouldn't claim deputy. That is dumb and I would never do it. Seriously hope you are just scum cause otherwise you need to learn to play mafia.

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Look. I am a fucking godlike scum player. I don't make marginal gambit as scum. I play by the books and win. This isn't anything I'd remotely do as scum ever. Ever. But ya let's quick vote without mass claim in possible lylo. Good job.

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TTH if you are scum with fei, stop sandbagging and win.

[AngryPidgeon]

ap I'm aware you're a good scumplayer. I just think you're scum with the situation against you right now

That is horseshit.

You watched town destroy itself in Xmen mafia by replacing scumhunting with setup spec. So I m glad you totally learned anything from that game.

Do you even have a read on me, irrelevant red herring role aside?

Actually lets just mass claim today.

[AngryPidgeon]

My only paranoia on AP comes with the fact that caled was nightkilled.

Over me?

Why would anyone kill me when people are derping to lynch me Today. And by people I mean Marquis.

Im not doing anything until we massclaim.

[AngryPidgeon]

Marquis
Feirei
TTH
Flubber pref order but just go if you want I guess.

[AngryPidgeon]

I've already claimed, AP.

Well by joe, don't make me go look it up >.>

Anyways I'll try and give this game time tomorrow. I gotta run for now.

[AngryPidgeon]

I got prodded. Sorry, I sort of site flaked over the last week due to out-of-site issues.

I see nothing much is happening in this game. Looking for deadline....

[AngryPidgeon]

Oh we have at least 13 days to go in this game. You'll pardon me then while I put this on the backburner until hopefully not longer than tomorrow.