—future House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA), reportedly speaking to a friend in 1980 about why he was divorcing his first wife
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''She's not young enough or pretty enough to be the wife of a President. And besides, she has cancer.''
—future House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA), reportedly speaking to a friend in 1980 about why he was divorcing his first wife
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''And what a bizarre time we're in, when a judge will say to little children that you can't say the pledge of allegiance, but you must learn that homosexuality is normal and you should try it.''—Michele Bachmann, March 2004
You areMichele Bachmann,Mafia Compulsive Flavor Watcher.
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Also-Ran:You may speak in the game thread (if anyone will listen).
Backroom Deals:You may speak with your partner in [redacted].
Crazy Eyes:Each Night you must attempt to see who targeted a candidate.
AMURRIKA:As a citizen of the United States, you may vote.
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I can't actually find any Roemer quotes because he's pretty irrelevant politically, but he recently mistook a New Orleans city councilman for a student.
You areBuddy Roemer,Vanilla Town.
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Contribution Reducer:You were going to have more abilities, but you took the moral high ground and refused all that fat cash.
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—Rick Perry, in response to a child who asked him if he believed in evolution during a campaign stop in New Hampshire, August 18, 2011
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Okay, so anyone that was against the flavorclaim (sorry) is pretty much guaranteed town. People that sheeped me onto Aronis for the fakeclaim are highly likely town as well, because I don't think scum would bus on a faulty premise like that.
People who were actually opposed to the flavorclaim (meaning they didn't just not comment on it):
Axle
... and no one else bothered commenting except Aronis? Dammit.
People that sheeped my logic for voting Aronis:
taos
In post 73, TierShift wrote:Aronis flavorclaim pls.
What did you hope to accomplish with this?
Flub's reaction makes a lot of sense from someone going "wtf why is my partner being voted for fakeclaim slipping when we don't have fakeclaims??"
Also Flub's false dichotomy about me/Aronis makes no sense at all. I didn't notice that yesterday because I was too busy being cheeky (<_<) but I think someone else pointed that out so thank you.
In post 149, Flubbernugget wrote:Axle I'm phone posting, not trying to ignore you.
But Aronis's response to the slip accusation is to just throw a fit, so VOTE: Aronis
Yeah, this vote was definitely to appease Axle.
phok, why did you vote Aronis?
Whooch is still bothering me for doing absolutely nothing yesterday except the scummy as fuck vote on me. This includes them ignoring Axle's attempt to interact with them.
But
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In post 182, SleepyKrew wrote:Okay, so anyone that was against the flavorclaim (sorry) is pretty much guaranteed town.
Nope, why?
People that sheeped me onto Aronis for the fakeclaim are highly likely town as well, because I don't think scum would bus on a faulty premise like that.
Nope again. I think scum could very well be in phok or taos and you think it might be flub, so you're more or less invalidating your own reasoning.
In post 182, SleepyKrew wrote:What did you hope to accomplish with this?
I wanted to see if he was indeed claiming to be either palin or bachmann. And to let him claim when I wanted to, not when he wanted to.
I don't think flub is scum, more later.
If anyone is ascetic/roleblocked me or SK, please claim it in your next post.
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I still have no idea why I'm being accused of stating a false dichotomy. Yes, Aronis and SK could both have been scum. They also both could also both have been town. But I had no evidence to promote either of those scenarios. If anything I should be accused of making associative tells before a flip, or sheeping SK's slip accusation. Seriously, sheeping Axle's false dichotomy accusation is scummy as hell, because nobody made a case for SK+Aronis scum or SK+Aronis town. But the quicklynch makes that tough to get any reads from. Meh.
When SK clarified his reads on Aronis I backed off of the accusation of him being scum. When Aronis decided to respond to SK's accusation by completely losing his shit I voted for him. Am I correct then in saying the primary scum read on me then is based on my reaction of the wagon forming on Aronis?
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In post 183, TierShift wrote:In post 182, SleepyKrew wrote:Okay, so anyone that was against the flavorclaim (sorry) is pretty much guaranteed town.
Nope, why?
Look at Aronis's flip. Ask gm for clarification if you need it.
In post 183, TierShift wrote:People that sheeped me onto Aronis for the fakeclaim are highly likely town as well, because I don't think scum would bus on a faulty premise like that.
Nope again. I think scum could very well be in phok or taos and you think it might be flub, so you're more or less invalidating your own reasoning.
First off, I just said taos, not phok. Second, Flub didn't sheep me.
In post 183, TierShift wrote:I wanted to see if he was indeed claiming to be either palin or bachmann.
And what were you going to do with the claim?
In post 186, TierShift wrote:I don't think I like playing with you, SK. You're pushing faulty ideas bullheadedly. You're just lucky to have caught scum with it.
Did you miss the part where I called my reasoning for Aronis faulty? I'm not tooting my own horn; I'm well aware that I got lucky.
As for "bullheadedly", lolwut? I'm not being stubborn. Present me with a good alternative.
Also, since I'm back to relying on reads instead of slips ("slips"), a lot of my confidence is going to be faked ^_^To be clear: quack-
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In post 188, TierShift wrote:Why is there only self-defence and not reads?
What areyourreads?
In post 187, Flubbernugget wrote:I still have no idea why I'm being accused of stating a false dichotomy. Yes, Aronis and SK could both have been scum. They also both could also both have been town. But I had no evidence to promote either of those scenarios.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I really hope I don't need to explain to anyone how fucking bad that is.
In post 187, Flubbernugget wrote:When Aronis decided to respond to SK's accusation by completely losing his shit I voted for him.
Aronis behaved the way he'd been behaving for a while before Axle talked to you.
In post 187, Flubbernugget wrote:Am I correct then in saying the primary scum read on me then is based on my reaction of the wagon forming on Aronis?
It's based on your vote (which I pointed out yesterday) and your false dichotomy (which Axle pointed out yesterday).
In post 187, Flubbernugget wrote:As for appeasing Axle, by the time I would have had an opportunity to not phone post the thread was already locked.
That has to do with my accusation of appeasement... how?To be clear: quack-
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Oh, I missed the flavor watcher part. Yeah, uh, ok. Doesn't really matter now, seeing no one cared about it.
Phok didn't just sheep you? I think he did.
I was hoping to see aronis either convincingly claim something else, reluctantly claim something else or just claim to be bachmann. All of those could affect my read on him.
I don't see why scum wouldn't sheep a dumb attack on their buddy temporarily just to create some skrt of distance. With unvoting later in mind, though, but not having been able to do that in this case.
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Partially because of the "slip", partially because of the bullshit he used to defend himself afterIn post 182, SleepyKrew wrote:phok, why did you vote Aronis?-
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In post 191, TierShift wrote:Phok didn't just sheep you? I think he did.
He didn't state why he voted when he did. I'm not going to give him credit for sheeping now even if he says he did, because it's after the fact and easy to lie about.
In post 191, TierShift wrote:I was hoping to see aronis either convincingly claim something else, reluctantly claim something else or just claim to be bachmann. All of those could affect my read on him.
So what did the Bachmann claim do for you? Feel free to quote something if you already said it.
In post 191, TierShift wrote:I don't see why scum wouldn't sheep a dumb attack on their buddy temporarily just to create some skrt of distance. With unvoting later in mind, though, but not having been able to do that in this case.
Do you think this happened, or are you just presenting it as a possibility?
In post 191, TierShift wrote:P-edit: I'm waiting for people to claim a roleblock or ascetic before outing my reads. I'm assuming your Night Action was blocked as well as mine and that both you a d flub are claiming not to be ascetic/having RB'd me. Please confirm, SK.
I was blocked or redirected or something, hence my first post today.
In post 192, phokdapolees wrote:
Partially because of the "slip", partially because of the bullshit he used to defend himself afterIn post 182, SleepyKrew wrote:phok, why did you vote Aronis?
If you agreed with me that it was a slip, why wasn't that enough to warrant a vote on its own? Elaborate on how the bullshit he used to defend himself was scummy?To be clear: quack-
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In post 191, TierShift wrote:I was hoping to see aronis either convincingly claim something else, reluctantly claim something else or just claim to be bachmann. All of those could affect my read on him.
So what did the Bachmann claim do for you? Feel free to quote something if you already said it.
The bachmann claim was the nullest of the options prevented. It didn't help my read, if anything, it showed that he wasn't afraid of fighting your theory. But it didn't really matter. My read on him was formed from other posts he made.
In post 191, TierShift wrote:I don't see why scum wouldn't sheep a dumb attack on their buddy temporarily just to create some skrt of distance. With unvoting later in mind, though, but not having been able to do that in this case.
Do you think this happened, or are you just presenting it as a possibility?
I'm presenting it as a possibility. You seem to be auto-disregarding this possibility, for reasons I do not know and I'm reminding you not to hand out townreads based on stuff that isn't necessarily worth a townread.
In post 191, TierShift wrote:P-edit: I'm waiting for people to claim a roleblock or ascetic before outing my reads. I'm assuming your Night Action was blocked as well as mine and that both you a d flub are claiming not to be ascetic/having RB'd me. Please confirm, SK.
I was blocked or redirected or something, hence my first post today.
Thanks. I'm gonna change my request in order to speed this up.
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In post 195, TierShift wrote:I'm presenting it as a possibility. You seem to be auto-disregarding this possibility, for reasons I do not know and I'm reminding you not to hand out townreads based on stuff that isn't necessarily worth a townread.
I think it's unlikely that scum would bus by sheeping something they knew to be incorrect. I don't think it's impossible. But really unlikely. I'm struggling to put into words why I think this. Remind me later and I'll try again.
However, even if you were to disregard my belief that scum (probably) wouldn't have sheeped me there, it would still take a mountain range of convincing to get me to vote taos (or even phok).To be clear: quack-
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My first post after you made your case on Aronis with the scumslip was my vote on him. As for his scummy posts:In post 193, SleepyKrew wrote:In post 192, phokdapolees wrote:
Partially because of the "slip", partially because of the bullshit he used to defend himself afterIn post 182, SleepyKrew wrote:phok, why did you vote Aronis?
If you agreed with me that it was a slip, why wasn't that enough to warrant a vote on its own? Elaborate on how the bullshit he used to defend himself was scummy?
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Because I think Whooch is scumIn post 194, SleepyKrew wrote:Also phok why are you voting Whooch instead of Flub?-
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