Open 570: Making Friends and Enemies (Mafia Wins!)

[uctriton00]

Uctriton is scum

Ok well there wasn't a vote, but there it is

[Shinobi]

@uctriton
Mala isn't scum. And heph never voted you.

@Shinobi
Posting things like that is not going to make people not listen to me, I'm afraid.

I'm shaking in my boots.

Quivering, even.

[uctriton00]

Uct for me is becoming more and more scum in my eyes.

I don't like the change of his read on Heph. This seems really opportunistic IMO. He hasn't answered a question that I asked him back in D1 in regards to a comment that he made on Heph. This seems to me that he can't back up what he was trying to convey back in D1.

VOTE: Uct

Shinobi this would be the time to explain Uct-town because I'm not seeing it.

Maybe you're scum actually too.

Again, do you have

any

scumreads that aren't grounded in OMGUS or opportunistic bandwagons?

I don't know, does it matter? I'm posting what my gut immediately tells me, it's a way for me to think

And if its 2am, I'll forgive you for ignoring my request for asking you to explain a read.

Please do consider that I am asking you to do something which should be really simple, so I'd wonder what reason you would have if you delay this request... again.

[Wisdom]

Heph read? It went from him playing his meta, now he placed a bad vote in me (kinda like you just did now).

So you changed your read on him just because he posted "uctriton is scum"?
Why didn't you engage him like you did with Shinobi?
And why is Mala's vote "bad" now?

[uctriton00]

Rofl, I think so.

I really don't think it's a bad thing to find town.

This post, 847, is where you came to a realization I am town

How did you get there

[uctriton00]

Heph read? It went from him playing his meta, now he placed a bad vote in me (kinda like you just did now).

So you changed your read on him just because he posted "uctriton is scum"?
Why didn't you engage him like you did with Shinobi?
And why is Mala's vote "bad" now?

I don't like votes on me period, I get defensive about them especially when I tell the truth and am honest 100% in them, so of course I'm suspicious. (In fact, remember me when I said I didn't open my role PM in that one micro game back then?)

Heph hasn't done much so I'm thinking he's a lurk scum at this point. There's always "one" IMO

[Wisdom]

Then why not say that instead of saying that your read changed because of his (non-existent) vote?

[uctriton00]

I thought I did go over it at one point about my theory of there being one lurker at any point in a scum team, maybe it wasn't in this game

Anyway usually there's one who just lurks back and stays quiet, maybe blends in a bit and goes under the radar

Heph fits that, plus combine that with him trying to vote (well, finger point then, not vote), makes him a scum candidate.

Tbh before he said that, I thought he was just unhelpful VT which fits his meta

[uctriton00]

May have overreacted to the mala vote, I just got mad at the vote being on me. My original read on mala was based on legitimate effort from her, which is too much for a scum to be going through IMO

[Wisdom]

Blah.

uctriton is going to back to my scumreads, and I hate that.

[uctriton00]

I'm not scum, dude

[Wisdom]

Anyway, I'll ignore how bad your posts are being right now.

Why are you still voting josh? Wanna vote Shinobi?

[uctriton00]

Oh god I can picture it.

Shinobi is probably going to get to dodge answering my question tomorrow morning, he'll say "nah I don't have to explain how I got a town read in you in post 847, it doesn't matter, I got enough people who think you're scummy that we can just lunch you"

[Wisdom]

So maybe you can vote him instead. Maybe it will make him answer.

[uctriton00]

Josh I don't know. To be fair I shouldn't have said blacklist or retarded, so I understand him saying eat a dick, I probably went too far. But he actually stood up and engaged for like 2 pages I think. I didn't read it in detail but the effort was there. I'll read it tomorrow morning in detail and chew on my read about him.

Shinobi I'll gladly wait patiently for him to explain how he got a town read.

[Shinobi]

Oh god I can picture it.

Shinobi is probably going to get to dodge answering my question tomorrow morning, he'll say "nah I don't have to explain how I got a town read in you in post 847, it doesn't matter, I got enough people who think you're scummy that we can just lunch you"

Tbh I'd love to do this, but I have to play the game and stuff now.

It's such garbage but it has to be done.

[uctriton00]

So maybe you can vote him instead. Maybe it will make him answer.

vote: shinobi

There's a guy Ki Gi who told me to vote someone with him in my last game then was like yeah you're scum you just do what I say! Almost got me lynched.

He and I were both town btw in that game fwiw.

[uctriton00]

Oh god I can picture it.

Shinobi is probably going to get to dodge answering my question tomorrow morning, he'll say "nah I don't have to explain how I got a town read in you in post 847, it doesn't matter, I got enough people who think you're scummy that we can just lunch you"

Tbh I'd love to do this, but I have to play the game and stuff now.

It's such garbage but it has to be done.

Sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs bite

[Wisdom]

I don't like how you're scared about how your actions will be taken.

[uctriton00]

I don't like how you're scared about how your actions will be taken.

Not what I meant, I meant last time someone asked me to vote with them, I did and they tried to lunch me for doing so

[Wisdom]

Like, "okay okay I'll vote Shinobi but I'm kinda scared that you will use this to call me scum"

wtf, if you're town just vote Shinobi and don't care about anything

[Wisdom]

Though, tbf, the fact you're open with it is slightly better than it would be if I only caught a subtle fear of that in your posts.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I was trying to think of some polite way to say, "then stop shitting up the thread while I'm in class, christ on a unicycle" but politeness escapes me at the moment..

What? How am I 'shitting' up the thread? At least I'm trying to solve the fucking game. So many people are jus coasting/lurking/cba it's ridiculous

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Oh shut up. They weren't awful considering your posts at the time I was commenting were pretty bad, but please do explain how they were awful.

Why would a scum!Wisdom change his reads from Josh when he was at L-1?

UNVOTE:

(^so nothing happens yet)

Prob not

Ugh never.

No, you're right. Those posts were pretty amazing. /sarcasm.

BBT I have zero clue on why you are voting Wisdom, but it just a horrible vote that you should consider changing it ASAP. Like seriously this isn't scum Wisdom and you both act so similarly it's incredible.

You have no clue...I've only wrote two huge posts on the subject.

Whatever though. You just keep producing those amazing posts that you're doing.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

@1691 - I see people use this 'distracting for the game' a lot and it simply isn't true. People don't pay much attention to 1v1's. This is evident across the board and it's one of the reasons that it's so difficult to get a lynch.

I have a theory and I'm going to try it out the next chance I get.

As for the distracting element, how many people have been distracted by me v you? 1? Mala made a brief comment on my voting of you, notice she didn't comment on my case, just the fact I was voting you.

How about me vs dave?

It's not very distracting to other people in the game because most of the time it gets completely ignored. Note: I asked everyone to provide some input on my case and theory on/about you and nobody replied. So what you're saying is actually not true.

I did want you to go away. However, I wanted you to go away because you were answering questions directed at Dave and answering arguments directed at Dave. That is very different from me telling you to go away if you we trying to explain a town-read or actually telling me why I could have been wrong in going after him. But, you did none of this.

Josh gave 96 hours before his intention to self-hammer. So we had 4 days, with Josh under good pressure at L-1 (which is what you say you wanted) but you unvoted straight away. Why? You relieved a lot of the pressure on someone you wanted supposedly wanted there to be pressure on.

You have not pushed Pea hard. I haven't seen you trying to build his wagon up. You have always made sure your attention is focused on two things when it involves Pea.

You haven't attacked many people. You have attacked Josh and attacked Pea. Is there anybody else you have attacked to the same level?