You could be anyone II - Game Over

Pine · Post Post #3850 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:26 pm

Dude, that quote was from day four. Then, we were mafia hunting. Now we're SK hunting

Btw, at not one point have I said "I think Mollie's innocent." Even when I was irritated and saying SK hunting was imprudent, I was reasonably sure Mollie was third party scum

Now, the SK has outlived its usefulness, and no longer needs to be leashed

Pine · Post Post #3851 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:29 pm

In post 3849, pirate mollie wrote:VOTE: pine

pirate mollie · Post Post #3852 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:34 pm

@ pine

you never explained how the executioner nks cld all come from 1 sk while scum only managed to get in 2 nks. cos you totally went with flavour in your "analysis".

like plz explain that leap of logic to me.

Formerfish · Post Post #3853 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:42 pm

Someone did explain how that could have happened, Garmr i think.

pirate mollie · Post Post #3854 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:48 pm

In post 3853, Formerfish wrote:Someone did explain how that could have happened, Garmr i think.

link?

and then walk me through the logic of how you interpret it.

cos that wld mean scum missed 3 nks, yeah?

Garmr · Post Post #3855 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:51 pm

pirate mollie wrote:@ pine

you never explained how the executioner nks cld all come from 1 sk while scum only managed to get in 2 nks. cos you totally went with flavour in your "analysis".

like plz explain that leap of logic to me.

Mollie

pirate mollie wrote:
In post 3840, Garmr wrote:
In post 3837, pirate mollie wrote:eta: xposts

it feels personal garmr.

I am not the sk.

but idc lynch me

If you could hear my voice you would know it's not intended to be personal and it only really became a bit personal after you start insulting me (which I refrained from doing unless you included the word hypocrite which I used in place of words I wanted to use.). I still think your a sk through because of the way the you flowed and the night kills match up also the way I perceived some of your actions..

Also your my friend and mafia works me up sometimes (through it tends to be because of the modding) to that's why I got banned and besides my skins thick I can take a insult or two it's chill.

truce?

those who are my nearest and dearest tend to work me up too. also strangers but I am somehow convinced that is healthy.

Ok truce.
I will try to work out the game. If there is a dr he slipped a couple of times and I already worked out who he is (for a while now) and today's pretty much confirmed my suspensions. I still think your sk mollie but I'll tell you who I think is the dr as you won't be killing him till mafia is gone. His someone closer to you than me.

I don't think former fish is scum and I want to hear pere. I'm going to sober up a bit before I shifts my vote.

(pe edit)
Scum could miss a nk if there's a dr

Formerfish · Post Post #3856 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:00 pm

In post 3834, Garmr wrote:Also I'm going to make this real simple for everyone out there.

n1 kills
vekoz sk kill
mafia kill denied

n2
dr cirno-mafia
IAI- SK shot the mafia so this is how we know how executed is the sks word.

n3
Tso- mafia shot him
AJ -blown up by tso
IHNC-sk

n4
Josh- sk kill
mafia kill denied

This is what happened.

Night 1- Mafia misses kill somehow.
Night 2- Mafia kills Dr.
Night 3- Mafia attempts to kill TSO, gets blown up for their trouble.
Night 4- Mafia misses kill somehow.

Ok, so let's start with Night 4 since its probably the easiest to explain. PV claims cop yesterday and we lynch as a result. Unless PV is playing some next level shit here and is scum he would have been the most likely target for a scum nk because he is danger on high for them. So what makes sense here? That PV was protected in some way (doc, jailkeeper, etc.), that scum decided that they were cool with not killing the cop, or that PV is scum playing the long con?

Night 1 is harder to explain because of many variables, but really its not. If we have a protective role of some sort than it makes sense that they could have gotten lucky on the first night.

How do you reconcile the fact that the dead mafioso shares the same kill flavor as others killed?

Pine · Post Post #3857 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:17 pm

In post 3852, pirate mollie wrote:@ pine

you never explained how the executioner nks cld all come from 1 sk while scum only managed to get in 2 nks. cos you totally went with flavour in your "analysis".

like plz explain that leap of logic to me.

Oh for fucks sake. There's lots of things that can stop a kill. Bulletproof, doctor, jailkeeper, roleblocker, any number of other more exotic roles

Or are you suggesting that the executioner is the mafia kill flavor, and they killed their own guy?

Stop being a moron

Formerfish · Post Post #3858 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:37 pm

Kill their own has been known to happen, look at Desps Xmen game. The probability of it happening is extremely low because it is risky as fuck. My argument against executed=scum kill is that it is easier to guess where scum is going to hit based off game state. Out guessing the SK is much more difficult because they are literally looking anywhere and know they can use the game state to their advantage with regards to kills.

And Mollie, if you are serious about wanting me to do a reset I will give you some advice. Don't ever call me stupid or insult my intelligence. You did that as scum when I justly pushed you for a lynch. I called you correctly in plants vs. Zombies. I am not a fucking newbie, so treating me like one will only cause me to dig in.

Kise · Post Post #3859 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:53 pm

In post 3848, pirate mollie wrote:kise, pine is voting for me

but says he is not advocating me being killed.

eta: oh and more sk wifom.

I told you guys he should have been sacrificed.

In the back of my head, he's a big possibility for scum, but not the biggest possibility. Anyone defending Titus just looks crooked to me. I may get him today or later.

PV where the fuck???

Garmr · Post Post #3860 (ISO) » Sun Nov 30, 2014 12:16 am

Nercocain was distancing hard with his scum buddies day 1 going through day 1. He tried to push the concept that Titus was a dumb ass town with early reaction. Also I don't like titus and nerocains both addressed yiley on his entry. It looks like day 1 was just scum fucking around around with each other.

Spoiler:

There's more interactions of scum but I just put the ones featuring/leading up to yiley ones. Then after a certain point nerocain/titus stop having fun and then start bickering I think this is scum theater.

Also this is interesting

Spoiler:

This looks like scum being selfconcious about an accidental slip. Also we know scum had day talk then and someone could of told him about the yiley slip. also

Spoiler:

This looks like titus trying to set up HI with yiley which seems weird if Yiley was town.

Spoiler:

The bolded bit makes me think nero was trying to cover his tracks if we did flip formerfish also to me it looks like he was trying to keep former alive just long enough so the cop would investigate former.

In post 3669, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3624, pirate mollie wrote:I did it once in our first game together. I have since worked off your reads in recent games yeah?

yeah, we both know this is untrue.

Garmr, TD and Josh are still town and my town needs to either sheep me on Ank or Mollie or PV.

Also the fact he left fish out seems weird since he was trying rally people behind his cause.

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Scummy stuff fish has done

In post 3196, Formerfish wrote:By the way, I only read the first 15 or so pages before I gave up on that shit. Mollie was scum from page 1.

I think this was an excuse to jump on the mollie he must of read the sk theroy.

Garmr · Post Post #3861 (ISO) » Sun Nov 30, 2014 12:17 am

No that post was half done

Garmr · Post Post #3862 (ISO) » Sun Nov 30, 2014 12:33 am

I also feel that fish pushes are none existent outside of mollie.

In post 3600, Formerfish wrote:
In post 480, TiphaineDeath wrote:So far? Haven't really managed all that much yet. I'm doing what I always do in the early game, jumping on things that ping me and setting up my connection tells for later.

I'll say again that I would be extremely surprised if neither TSO nor FFS is scum, and they both might well be, but because of that i currently find it unlikely that AJ is scum.

In post 752, TiphaineDeath wrote:Just so I don't forget it in this huge thread TSO scum= StrangerCoug Scum.

In post 813, TiphaineDeath wrote:I've been told that people occasionally have problems with that, howzabout this, help me lynch TSO and you get a free pass on to my town list for basically ever.

In post 815, TiphaineDeath wrote:Yeah, given your playstyle so far this game I would have voted you instantly if you had taken me up on that, instead you get town points. <3.

In post 1086, TiphaineDeath wrote:"There are no good wagons, all the wagons are vanity wagons, so I am voting the guy with the most votes, but I warned you guys that these wagons were all terrible so you should give me town points when whoever we lynch today flips town"

Vezoks post means vezok scum=ff town actually titus, get with it.

In post 1154, TiphaineDeath wrote:For when I flip town Nero, bookmark this post, then lynch in this order TSO-SC-Vezok I think the counterwagon to me right now is on town given that vezok is probably scum, and I will not be voting ff today.

In post 1246, TiphaineDeath wrote:I believe in everything I'm pushing Jiffy, I just can't really push it very well :/.

In post 1279, TiphaineDeath wrote:HI could very well be scum, and despite loving the few votes I have on TSO I am not feeling I'm going to be able to push this through today.

I'm down nero VOTE: hostile intent

In post 1747, TiphaineDeath wrote:So yeah, Jiffy is town forever.

Also I have caught at least two, and probably three or four scum, and HI's attitude of "I'm doing better than that guy so you should lynch him" Is fucking terrible.

In post 1860, TiphaineDeath wrote:Sure, why not, I'm ready to be done with this game. UNVOTE: garmr go ahead and vote, I'll hammer.

Ya'll make sure you kill TSO-HI and SC when Me and FF are done distracting you.

In post 1925, TiphaineDeath wrote:There was one kill last night when I expected three, mr. "FBI agent" can go spin.

In post 2117, TiphaineDeath wrote:Mmm, Yeah, it's time for this to die, VOTE: house

In post 3199, TiphaineDeath wrote:IAI-Titus-AJ Were scum, Three scum flips mean it's time to do some serious connection/POE shit, wall coming in the next day or two.

Someone explain why TD is town?

I am stuck with phone posting for now and when I did a iso dive on him I weighed and measured his reads and was left wanting. He was very active in pushing people who ended up flipping town and his reasoning was shotty at best. I had posts marked to comment directly on but lost them. Why did no one care about him trying to chain lynches based off nonexistent flips?

This is the closet thing to a push.

UNVOTE: mollie

VOTE: formerfish

Pine · Post Post #3863 (ISO) » Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:16 am

In post 3859, Kise wrote:
In post 3848, pirate mollie wrote:kise, pine is voting for me

but says he is not advocating me being killed.

eta: oh and more sk wifom.

I told you guys he should have been sacrificed.

In the back of my head, he's a big possibility for scum, but not the biggest possibility. Anyone defending Titus just looks crooked to me. I may get him today or later.

PV where the fuck???

That's the second time you've asserted that I was defending Titus. It's not true. I advocated hearing her out before making a decision, rather than leaping to judgment

Don't misrep me. It really, really annoys

TiphaineDeath · Post Post #3864 (ISO) » Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:04 am

Firstly, Garmr, if you do know who the doc/jailkeeper/roleblocker/whatever you think is making the scum miss night kills is, why in the fuck would you even consider outing that?

And secondly this speculation is pointless, this could be as simple as a bunch of crosskills, which I believe I mentioned earlier.

Really liking garmr's fish case though. I think I'm going to slide in to the group that wants to take a chill pill until our cop reports in.

Ankamius · Post Post #3865 (ISO) » Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:27 am

zzz

UNVOTE: TiphaineDeath

TheWayItEnds · Post Post #3866 (ISO) » Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:11 am

In post 3409, TiphaineDeath wrote:
I expected to have to claim quite awhile ago when titus outed me, but I was content to let it go till someone actually picked up on it. I'm the town neighborizer, I have a certain number of shots, I have not used them all yet, my first two shots are both dead, and my third is alive and in a hood with me, I do not feel like outing them.

N1 TSO
N2 Titus
N3 ????

I realized near the end of d1 that TSO was actually town, you'll note that me and him were unreasonably chill with eachother d2 after how hardcore we wanted each other dead d1, that's a result of having the neighborhood to figure shit out in.

n2 I was having doubts again, major doubts, about pretty much everything, wasn't sure whether TSO was town, wasn't sure whether Titus was scum, so I targeted titus, I wanted to force the two of them to interact and help solidify my reads on both of them. It didn't really work, hence my rather halfhearted titus hammer.

n3 I see no particular reason to claim yet, but they're still alive and well and can confirm me if ya'll decide they REALLY need to, but i'd rather they not just yet.

So this is true.

And I'm ????.

And the contents of the hood made me lose my day 2/3 TD scumread.

So I think its quite likely that TD is town.

Kthxbye · Post Post #3867 (ISO) » Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:46 am

prod dodge till later

Garmr · Post Post #3868 (ISO) » Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:15 am

In post 3864, TiphaineDeath wrote:Firstly, Garmr, if you do know who the doc/jailkeeper/roleblocker/whatever you think is making the scum miss night kills is, why in the fuck would you even consider outing that?

And secondly this speculation is pointless, this could be as simple as a bunch of crosskills, which I believe I mentioned earlier.

Really liking garmr's fish case though. I think I'm going to slide in to the group that wants to take a chill pill until our cop reports in.

If mollie is sk she won't want to kill the protection role till scum is caught as dr and inspector don't hurt her (as dr will probably hard protect inspector). If someone kills the protection role because of my hint that limits it to the very few people that know mollie personal life which I would say is small (2-3 at most) and instantly puts them as lynch candidates.

Ankamius · Post Post #3869 (ISO) » Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:21 am

In post 3866, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 3409, TiphaineDeath wrote:
I expected to have to claim quite awhile ago when titus outed me, but I was content to let it go till someone actually picked up on it. I'm the town neighborizer, I have a certain number of shots, I have not used them all yet, my first two shots are both dead, and my third is alive and in a hood with me, I do not feel like outing them.

N1 TSO
N2 Titus
N3 ????

I realized near the end of d1 that TSO was actually town, you'll note that me and him were unreasonably chill with eachother d2 after how hardcore we wanted each other dead d1, that's a result of having the neighborhood to figure shit out in.

n2 I was having doubts again, major doubts, about pretty much everything, wasn't sure whether TSO was town, wasn't sure whether Titus was scum, so I targeted titus, I wanted to force the two of them to interact and help solidify my reads on both of them. It didn't really work, hence my rather halfhearted titus hammer.

n3 I see no particular reason to claim yet, but they're still alive and well and can confirm me if ya'll decide they REALLY need to, but i'd rather they not just yet.

So this is true.

And I'm ????.

And the contents of the hood made me lose my day 2/3 TD scumread.

So I think its quite likely that TD is town.

This is what I was waiting for. Thanks.

Ankamius · Post Post #3870 (ISO) » Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:21 am

In post 3786, Ankamius wrote:FormerFish/Garmr/Pine (Remainder of scumteam is probably here)

My lynchpool for today barring extreme shenanigans.

pirate mollie · Post Post #3871 (ISO) » Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:52 am

In post 3858, Formerfish wrote:Kill their own has been known to happen, look at Desps Xmen game. The probability of it happening is extremely low because it is risky as fuck. My argument against executed=scum kill is that it is easier to guess where scum is going to hit based off game state. Out guessing the SK is much more difficult because they are literally looking anywhere and know they can use the game state to their advantage with regards to kills.

And Mollie, if you are serious about wanting me to do a reset I will give you some advice. Don't ever call me stupid or insult my intelligence. You did that as scum when I justly pushed you for a lynch. I called you correctly in plants vs. Zombies. I am not a fucking newbie, so treating me like one will only cause me to dig in.

the likelihood of scum killing their own has increased ever since etl and bro got their scummy for doing it. I have seen it twice since then.

I am not liking td or sc at this point. mostly sc. td keeps using strange phrasing.

@ garmr - I see what you mean about the ff slot, I just realised that he replaced both yiley AND jackal and that does change things. in the reckoning desp tried to claim the "magickal" tell and when that did not work tried fake claiming a guilty on me then got lynched.

@ endz thing - I thought the same thing about that post but he has been acting very strange lately. did he ever say who he neighbourized?

eta: I think that you are misunderstanding how many people who know my personal life, I have 30 hydras and have met about 40 people from the site. it was fate who started the meme "are you reading mollie's posts in her voice?" from the reckoning cos people noticed right away that when you HEAR me and SEE me my words come across fairly differently. and we are awful to each other like a recent text from reck was "LISTEN BITCH" after he asked me to make black-eyed peas and I said, "if you want me to make make black people food can I just make greens" cos I got this awsum recipe from the old black woman with missing teeth who practically raised me whom all the other neighbourhood kids were terrified of but she was always super nice to me. she was nicer to me than my mom was and i loved her. but anyways we are awful to each other on the commune but in a very loving way and that was my point.

TiphaineDeath · Post Post #3872 (ISO) » Sun Nov 30, 2014 12:04 pm

Oh holy fuck, I've been wrong on literally everything, anak is scum. Check out that sequencing, anak unvotes me, TWIE confirms me, anak says "well that's what I was waiting for," and gives a lynchpool without a vote. And come to think of it, nero/mom could definitely be scum theater given the amount that has already been in this game.

VOTE: Ankamius

Pine · Post Post #3873 (ISO) » Sun Nov 30, 2014 12:08 pm

Mod, please prod Peregrine V

Ankamius · Post Post #3874 (ISO) » Sun Nov 30, 2014 12:10 pm

In post 3872, TiphaineDeath wrote:Oh holy fuck, I've been wrong on literally everything, anak is scum. Check out that sequencing, anak unvotes me, TWIE confirms me, anak says "well that's what I was waiting for," and gives a lynchpool without a vote. And come to think of it, nero/mom could definitely be scum theater given the amount that has already been in this game.

VOTE: anak

I'm specifically waiting for a vote count. I'm too lazy to go look at who has how many votes.