Mini 1648: Mafia in the Noose Factory. (Game Over)

[House]

Random is scummy because he forgets basic things and is putting on a show.

How is that scummy? I do that all the time.

It's not alignment indicative.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

131 - This post feels town. I like it.

132 - Why is he scum?

VOTE: tip
I'm following house

Second person to place a 3rd random vote.

I'm beginning to dislike this game.

PEdit - LOL. If I want you lynched pisskop, I'll get you lynched.

[pisskop]

Random is scummy because he forgets basic things and is putting on a show.

How is that scummy? I do that all the time.

It's not alignment indicative.

But you are House :b
. Random is being a filthy lurker, and in the absence of better votes I'm sticking here.

[House]

Random is scummy because he forgets basic things and is putting on a show.

How is that scummy? I do that all the time.

It's not alignment indicative.

But you are House :b
. Random is being a filthy lurker, and in the absence of better votes I'm sticking here.

There's a much better vote. It's called

Zebulin

.

[pisskop]

Its true that Zeb is being weird.
. so is Plob.

. I'm wary of voting either so early when there's been so much

terrible

around them.
I want Random to join us.

[House]

. I'm wary of voting either so early when there's been so much

terrible

around them.

All the terrible around Zebulin is cancelled out by my excellence.

[Cheery Dog]

Kaboose replaces Always Mafia

[BlueBloodedToffee]

163 - There is always a threat. If someone stated intent to hammer, Zeb would have had no choice to claim. Simple as that.

How am I pushing 20 pages of nonsense?

I didn't like his attempt to disguise his vote on Boon as RVS and then the over explanation of this vote afterwards.

165 - It appears a few people didn't pick up the intention behind those posts. This is weak by anyone's standards.

170 - I have already told you I was not/might not/might have/was fishing for PR's. What more do you want from me?

172 - Answered above. This is a nice opportunistic vote though.

[Kaboose]

BBT you're going to be scum to me until Liverpool win their next game because I'm fuming currently.

[ploben]

106 - Ploben, this is weak as fuck. Which is interesting for reasons explained later.

People's experience has no effect on a claim. Where have you plucked that from?

Point is he wasn't going to claim with such a weak ass push to lynch. So what's the next best thing to do as town trying to gather intel on who might be mafia? Hmmmm...maybe L-1 the player (who is going to neither claim nor get lynched that early) and see who speaks up and see what they have to say. THAT might make for some interesting reading not only now but maybe down the road when we have more info after a lynch flip or maybe the next day after a NK.

112 - MY early L-1? I think you mean YOUR early L-1. You're using someone else's reasoning now for what I might have been doing? I think you're scum.

My sentence in post 112 should have read "I don't agree with his early

push for

L-1 to force claim. I misspoke. I never claimed you casted the L-1 vote on Zeb in any other post. I didn't hide the fact whatsoever that I was the L-1 vote on Zeb. Post 55.

163 - There is always a threat. If someone stated intent to hammer, Zeb would have had no choice to claim. Simple as that.

I stated why I think there wasn't a threat. You stated why you think there was. You think my explanation of it is weak. I think your play to push this early was stupid. Stalemate.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

177 - Why the unvote?

182 - Better to get an early claim than a late one. That should be obvious.

186 - PR fishing is definitely bad for town.

188 - What question?

189 - Well you're wrong on at least one of them.

194 - Ploben, why are you speaking to Slandaar as if he is town?

I think we're on the same page but why not share your information and help us solve this?

199 - Sure, if it was another naked vote with no explanation.

PEdit - Haha, Kaboose. Great pen from Lovren

[BlueBloodedToffee]

204 - They're being weird? What does weird consist of?

What is the terrible that surrounds them?

209 - Nah, my push on Zeb made for interesting reading. Your L-1 vote was scummy.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Caught up.

Zeb & Ploben look like scum.

Pony is the only one towning it up.

VOTE: Zeb

[ploben]

194 - Ploben, why are you speaking to Slandaar as if he is town?

I'm speaking to Slander as if I want to hear what he has to say.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You think scum is on the same page as you?

You also want scum to help you solve the game?

Nah, you're talking to him as if he is town.

[ploben]

You think scum is on the same page as you?

You also want scum to help you solve the game?

Nah, you're talking to him as if he is town.

Dude, you're such a donkey.

You've been calling me scum this entire time and yet what do you do with your vote? Throw it back on Zeb.

So go ahead and get your L-1 on Zeb, get your intent to hammer Zeb, get your early claim from Zeb so he can claim PR, and then we lynch you for outing our PR, or so Zeb can claim VT, and then we lynch you for being donkey town and eliminating a target for mafia to NK.

[Kaboose]

I will get caught up under two scenarios, my boss leaves finally or it's time to go home.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

That response doesn't relate to my post in any way, shape or form.

Try again.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Last post @Ploben.

[ploben]

It's a response to you're entire body of work so far this game.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I wanted a response to my latest post though.

[Randomnamechange]

Lol. You haven't explained why that is scummy. Lurking in itself isn't scummy. Lurking when people want to form a wagon in you is.

[Cheery Dog]

Vote Count 1.07

pisskop: (1) Always Mafia
randommidget: (3) pisskop, ploben, tip
tip: (1) randommidget
Zebulin: (4) Luca Blight, House, Boonskiies, BlueBloodedToffee
MonkeyMan576: (1) Slandaar
BlueBloodedToffee: (2) Ponystar17, Zebulin

Not Voting: MonkeyMan576

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2015-03-08 19:53:20)

Mod Notes:
Worked out how to get no colour in this vc setup, Thesp's automatic one may still get used by me on my phone, so try to keep semicolons in votes/use vote tags

[Slandaar]

177 - Why the unvote?

182 - Better to get an early claim than a late one. That should be obvious.

186 - PR fishing is definitely bad for town.

188 - What question?

189 - Well you're wrong on at least one of them.

194 - Ploben, why are you speaking to Slandaar as if he is town?

I think we're on the same page but why not share your information and help us solve this?

199 - Sure, if it was another naked vote with no explanation.

PEdit - Haha, Kaboose. Great pen from Lovren

Where in all of these posts is your answer to my question?

If you don't understand; I want to know if you think what they said makes sense as their perspectives.

[Slandaar]

Maybe you guys are right about BBT - I've never played in a game with him before, or really had time to look at his meta. But I've looked back over the thread, and I'm having trouble finding a pro-town reason for his choice to justify his wagon rather than keep the wagon going to L-1 in order to succeed at his alleged goal. And while I acknowledge that it could be a reaction test, I a problem with that, too. Unless I'm misinterpreting a post, he never outright admits to reaction-testing, and he's had plenty of time to observe reactions since the post. It's not that I can't see this as a reaction test, I just don't find it any easier than seeing it as scum play. Maybe it is too obvious for an experienced scum player, I just can't bring myself to stop suspecting him entirely.

Also, hello, House! Don't expect me to go easy on you just because you scumclaimed in that last game.

Waffle waffle waffle waffle waffle.

131 - This post feels town. I like it.

Can someone who disagrees with the BBT wagon please explain why anything anyone has done so far is more suspicious than bad logic and blatant PR-hunting? I don't think meta is an acceptable excuse for behaviour which actively attempts to decrease town's chances of winning.

What I mean by bad logic: acting like it doesn't matter whether PRs are outed now or many days later, acting like wanting PRs outed at all isn't pro-scum.

Weird post after making 131