Mini 1651: One Flew Over The Monkey's Nest(Scum Wins!)

[toolenduso]

Like 25 minutes and I'll post my reasoning for eektor, I'd appreciate it if anyone online could respond.

[Metalcyanide]

because that's not scummy.

Really? Not taking part in any discussion and probably not fully reading what’s going on isn’t scummy?

[mykonian]

because that's not scummy.

Really? Not taking part in any discussion and probably not fully reading what’s going on isn’t scummy?

is this the question game?
do you enjoy rhetorical questions?

[pisskop]

Im positive on of eek/IL is scum. The cases on them are pretty similar even.

[toolenduso]

Stuff on eektor:

-Wishy washy stance on Taly in #278.
-Drops it later in favor of myko, IL and aqua. But in that post (#537) he says "even though I have my doubts," which lets him come back later if it looks like nobody else will get lynched today.
-#630 looks like eektor setting up a wagon on two players pushing Taly after Taly flips town. He even puts the onus for this on Taly ("according to Taly...") This also makes sense with his somewhat-dropping of his read on Taly.
-More setting up pushes on players following a Taly townflip in #828, this time Taly asked for it (though I will point out that I had already talked in the thread about how this doesn't help town).

[toolenduso]

that's just taly interactions, but i assume others already know the rest

[Metalcyanide]

Don't assume, look where is got me

[Aquanim]

Meh, I think that "I think he's town but I don't know he's town" was a quite reasonable attitude to take to the Taly wagon. The way he didn't really do anything about it one way or the other is scummy but if I tried to lynch everyone in this game who appeared not to give a damn I'd run out of rope. It was, in fact, very hard to actively oppose the Taly wagon with those stupid huge walls being flung back and forth, and the extreme confirmation bias of the people pushing it.

I have to say I'd probably consider eektor a little more harshly if Mykonian hadn't tried to push for his lynch. Pre-flip association is terrible... but seductive.

[MonkeyMan576]

[sigh] Q+

@ mod: Can we replace IL?

Sorry IL, I do hope whatever irl has in store goes well for you.

5. You must post once every three days. The you will receive two prods, the third offence will result in replacement. If you are unable to meet your posting obligations please VLA.

[mykonian]

I have to say I'd probably consider eektor a little more harshly if Mykonian hadn't tried to push for his lynch. Pre-flip association is terrible... but seductive.

boy, you are going to make this game hard for yourself

[Metalcyanide]

Taly has been modkilled for communicating outside the game. Taly was the

Town Roleblocker

.

Due to the modkill, day will be extended by 3 days.

@MOD

Who was Taly communicating with? Is this something we are allowed to know?

[MonkeyMan576]

Taly has been modkilled for communicating outside the game. Taly was the

Town Roleblocker

.

Due to the modkill, day will be extended by 3 days.

@MOD

Who was Taly communicating with? Is this something we are allowed to know?

They were communicating with a player in the game, that's all that needs to be known. More may be revealed post game.

[Aquanim]

I have to say I'd probably consider eektor a little more harshly if Mykonian hadn't tried to push for his lynch. Pre-flip association is terrible... but seductive.

boy, you are going to make this game hard for yourself

Maybe if you put half the effort into your scumreads that you did into trying to convince me not to lynch Metal (not even that Metal was town, just that he shouldn't be lynched) this would be going a little differently. As it is, however, you've made your priorities pretty clear.

[mykonian]

My scumread that I pushed harder than you ever worked for metal is dead. My e-peen is doing pretty well, ty.

[Aquanim]

Wow, you sheeped Elyse into scumreading a townie who got modkilled. Am I supposed to be impressed?

[mykonian]

It's a bit cheap to characterise me as someone who's more concerned with townread when you are pushing someone who's trying their damnest to get themselves lynched.

[Aquanim]

In what sense is Metal trying his damnedest to get himself lynched?

[Aquanim]

Well?

[mykonian]

Last time I explained this to you, you clenched your fists, got tears in your eyes and wanted to talk with other more fun people Remember, metal being weird, but how it wasn't scummy?

That part.

[Aquanim]

Really. Let me go and see what other people in this game thought of our little discussion.

Yes, I agree with you in that interaction.
...

...
-Aqua makes a good point about Metal's stance on Taly, but I think eektor's stance on Taly looks worse:
...

So basically your point there still makes no sense, as confirmed by other reasonable people in this thread who I would

a priori

expect to side with you over me, and you're trying to spin it as me throwing a tantrum.

[Aquanim]

...

<echoing silence>

Anyone who's played with Mykonian before - is this kind of thing characteristic of his town play?

[Aquanim]

I'll also note that Mykonian seems to

know

I'm town. I'm probably not the best judge of this - does anyone think that is an unreasonable position for him to hold if he's town?

[Metalcyanide]

I hate this part where I get cold feet too - but I'm not in for an eektor or Insidious lynch today, I wouldn't get the votes for Mykonian, and lynching Boonskiies would be giving up. I'm not lynching either of the claimed town PRs today. Does anyone have a case for TheDudeAbides?

I'm open to any lynch at this point. I would join a mykonian wagon if one were to form. I don't have a TheDude case though.

curious timing, dear.

No it's not. I discussed earlier you could be scum, its a weak read but with my other reads not happening I'll go with it.

[Elyse]

let's lynch metal

[Metalcyanide]

Cool you have 19 hours to get 2 people on your side and avoid a no lynch. You'll get a mislynch but that can be sorted out later