Mini 1649: Jabberwocky Mafia (Game Over)

Titus · Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:00 am

Farside, really? You made a big deal about me not answering you and now you won't even acknowledge Elbrin as confirmed town?

Titus · Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:02 am

Since Vig is triggered during the day, VM should announce the three sword candidates in thread before hammer.

Titus · Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:27 am

WP, we are massclaiming. Fully claim please.

Titus · Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:31 am

In post 1146, Titus wrote:WP, we are massclaiming. Fully claim please.

/tenchar

If you're not a VT, then you have to be a PR. You are arguing both ways. That is unless you can use the sword to do more than kill?

Titus · Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:28 am

Wait shr clsimed celebratory citizen?

Tbh, I don't get the poem. Yet how can she be the celebratory citizen if I am the head celebrant?

On the other hand, my flavor does imply other celebrants.

Titus · Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:17 pm

@Elbrin, How many celebratory citizens are there? Including the head.

Titus · Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:27 pm

In post 1164, Elbirn wrote:In the poem? Zero. Why?

Trying to check Far's claim. I am the head and it's missing but my quote is there.

@Far, does your PM quote part of the poem?

Titus · Fri Mar 20, 2015 4:38 am

If you guys thought he was crumbing the same things, it is likely he's trying to back out of a claim.

Titus · Fri Mar 20, 2015 5:31 am

My gut is screaming at me Beli/FAQ2/VM with the possibility of one being a townbeard. I just want to run down all options.

Titus · Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:09 am

A townie that defends scums and votes townies.

Titus · Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:22 pm

Beli needs to claim. Before reading.

Titus · Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:27 pm

In post 1184, FA_Q2 wrote:Still pushing to claim.

For what purpose? What is the town motivation at this point. None.

Beli is the only player that hasn't claimed. He's also objectively the scummiest.

Titus · Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:33 am

I think Beli's in prod range.

Titus · Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:38 am

In post 1196, Elbirn wrote:
In post 1193, T S O wrote:thanks for helping me bus him

Is lynching all scum claims a thing?

Not when we have a vig and they claim lynchproof.

Titus · Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:13 am

In post 1198, Witness Protection wrote:
In post 1076, FA_Q2 wrote:What I assume is the FLAVOR (it does not really state that it is flavor but it uses colorful language) directly mentions that I cannot be lynched as long as the vorpol sword is in the right hands. As the mod will not clarify what the exact conditions are for my lynchproof I have to assume that the flavor provides the insight that I am lacking and that the right hands refers to town (it does also say that scum would cut me down with it so I think my interpretation is pretty damn solid in that respect). Is it possible that I am incorrect? I guess it is but I think that is only a remote possibility and I am more than willing to stake my neck on the fact that if mollie is town then I will not be lynched this day. If I am lynched then mollie is scum (and my death will have been more than worth it). I think that vindication is coming anyway as your case on farside is damn good and she has the vig shot to take care of that. A direct lie about your role is just shy of a confirmed cop guilty. The only other thing that I might take from the role PM would be that I might simply die if the sword ends up in scum hands but I do not think that is actually the case as that would be taking the role wording really loosely and does not fit all that well. Now, lynch me shoot farside (damn TSO is going to have to wait) and I will hope like hell that I am not killed in the night actions.VOTE: farside

I need opinions. Please! Is this bs?

Especially the associations he's putting forth.

I think a lynchproof balances with a suicidal scum quite well.

Titus · Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:16 am

Giving pairing a suicidal scum with a town that can be lynched over and over again and clear everyone is broken as fucj.

Doc does not claim. FAQ claims lynchproof day 1. Try to lynch him. Flubber is cleared.
Day 2 doc heals plus scum suicides. Lynch FAQ, mollie cleared as town.

Three confirmed town, two scum. GG.

Titus · Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:17 am

Oh that's supposing Mollie shot town.

Titus · Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:41 am

Happy Birthday WP.

Lotta fishes in this thread.

Titus · Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:39 pm

Mollie, give me your three that you will pass the sword to.

Titus · Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:15 am

In post 1241, Elbirn wrote:
In post 1234, Titus wrote:Mollie, give me your three that you will pass the sword to.

I don't think this is a good idea. If she announces publicly who she's going to pass to, scum will NK one of those three in hopes of getting the sword.

In post 1240, Flubbernugget wrote:Does day end if we lynch the unlynchable?

I believe so. Majority vote = day phase ends, mod posts the outcome for today (which in this case would simply be no kill), and then we move to night.

If I don't have that info, scum have just as likely odds of hitting the sword but I cannot actually heal one of them. Scum by trying to shoot the sword bearer, run an ultra high risk of heal target.

I am dead tonight most likely.

Titus · Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:16 am

Plus if no one claims the sword, scum is in sword pool plus Mollie.

Titus · Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:16 am

Provided no one in Sword Pool dies.

Titus · Sun Mar 22, 2015 11:15 am

In post 1229, T S O wrote:This town is kinda filled with players who I really cannot work with as town - farside all-around, Titus for unwarranted iron confidence, mollie for never listening. I'm not "active lurking on the largest wagons". I've never even touched FA, despite his idiotic martyr vote on me.

My position has changed. I realized I am not so good at hunting scum but I am ok at town hunting.

Only VCA is where I have that iron confidence. I still engage people I think are wrong in case of these scenarios (lots of fake claiming townies and revolving vigs). If I think there's an actual cop guilty, I follow it until the end of the earth. Not surprising.

Titus · Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:27 pm

In post 1257, Flubbernugget wrote:Well any scum worth its salt can change their tactics a little bit

The problem from my point of view it that it makes your intentions completely opaque.

Do what I do (I can hear Mollie cringing already). Toss the meta aside. It ain't about meta.

Who does he want lynched and why? Does that look like town or scum? Why?

Titus · Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:36 pm

By all means, I was just trying to help.

Titus · Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:42 pm

I feel like I died and went to heaven.

Titus · Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:17 pm

Damn... #wish I wasn't doc. This will be a treasure trove for VCA.

Titus · Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:54 pm

I don't get this wagon...

Titus · Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:22 am

In post 1275, FA_Q2 wrote:
In post 1261, Valkyrie Mollie wrote:We have come to the conclusion that we'll be shooting faq2.

UNVOTE:

ya, shoot fucking town.

I swear, I havent seen so much aggro in playing this game for a long fucking time.

I will not bother responding anymore till this day is over (and will be dead after anyway) so good luck town.

Titus has been as shitty as possible this entire game - it would not surprise me if he is scum. I guess Ill know shortly.
UNVOTE:

Are you fucking kidding me?

Titus · Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:23 am

In post 1279, hi im Yakko wrote:was that the hammer? I'm bad at counting. I was sundial.

This looks fake as fuck.

Intent to hammer.

Titus · Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:25 am

If Beli still refuses to do anything, lynch him tomorrow. I am half paranoid this replacement wagon is a desperate attempt to save Beli.

Titus · Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:59 am

@Mollie, I wouldn't put too much stock in that scumread. I think I know why he was scumreading me. FAQ is the proper vig.

Titus · Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:00 am

Having suspicion on me is good. If scum think I am mislynchable, I can heal more.

Titus · Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:04 pm

TSO take a chill pill. I am townreading you. You will likely be here tomorrow even without my hugs. Just chill.

Titus · Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:33 pm

I felt like I had a good game on this... then Day 2 happened... :S

I was still right on Beli in the end.

However, in the future, a lynch proof cop check is very poor design IMO. A lynch should almost never directly clear or scumfirm a player unless cops are involved. I am amazed at the pass the vig mechanic though. 5 stars for that. Would steal.

Titus · Fri Mar 27, 2015 3:10 am

In post 1343, pirate mollie wrote:I had you and titus down as scum for STUPID FUCKING REASONS

can we start a club where we have town down as scum for stupid fucking reasons.

it might make me feel less alone cos I get this way quite often.

ty for the game gm <3

I will sign up. *hug*

Titus · Fri Mar 27, 2015 3:11 am

I hoped I had killed scum by healing Elvrin.

At least I got a good heal off.

My wagon myself plan worked good too.