New York 182 - Game Over

[The Bulge]

Votecount 2.6

notscience (1) -

TheFuzzylogic99

Antihero (5) -

Thor665, elusive, Gorkington, copper223, ZZZX

Boonskiies (0) -

TheFuzzylogic99 (1) -

ika

copper223 (1) -

droog

elusive (0) -

Flubbernugget (0) -

Gorkington (0) -

ika (0) -

droog (0) -

Marquis (0) -

OkaPoka (1) -

mnemonicdevice

mnemonicdevice (5) -

Flubbernugget, notscience, Seohyun, Marquis, OkaPoka

pisskop (0) -

Seohyun (1) -

Antihero

Thor665 (0) -

Varsoon (0) -

ZZZX (0) -

Not Voting -

Boonskiies, Varsoon, pisskop

With 18 alive, it's 10 to lynch.

Deadline in (expired on 2015-04-02 19:15:00) (April 2^nd).

[The Bulge]

Prodded notscience.

[droog]

VOTE: antihero

[droog]

Says the person who just spamposted like a dozen useless posting. Fluff is just as bad as not posting at all. There was hardly anything in that chain of posts that was not fluff.

like what

[droog]

Hello all.
So, I'm on page 8 so far, and here are my initial thoughts, just from those pages:

Antihero leans somewhat scum
[/bTheFuzzy/Choof leans very slightly scum, even after looking past the "I'm a noob, I don't understand" claim
Gorkington reads town to me

Kitten/Droog I can't read. Either noob town, or bad mafia

Marquis r

eads town to me

Seohyun, with her one informative post up to that point, leans somewhat scum

Thor I have no idea how to read.

V

arsoon seems slightly town, but I can't tell because of the early wagon placed up

on him.

Working on getting caught up, will give more reads later.

Ok, on page 30, and my reads on everyone are:
Albert/Notscience- Not enough posts at this point, leaning slightly town from Notscience's first couple posts though

Antihero- I can't read him. I'm thinking town tho

Boonskiis- No posts.
Choof/TheFuzzy- No read.
Copper- He reads town, his analysis and playstyle this game feels town to me
Elusive- SCUM. Nearly all of his posts up to that point feel scummy to me.
Flubber- No read, feels like lurking via fluff, although a couple content posts
Gorkington- A strong town read for this one
House- His playstyle confuses me, but I'm leaning scum

Kitten/Droog- Got a noob town read from Kitten's posts

Marquis-

Not enough posts for me to be conclusive here

OkaPoka- Slight scum read
Pisskop- Slightly scummy, but not sure
Seohyun- So much lurk.

Thor665- I get a helpful town read on him

Varsoon- Ugh. I feel scum, but then his play after "Not actually hated, just wanted to survive. plz dont hurt me" reads town

ZZZX- Slight town read, from his few posts so far.

for now, VOTE: Elusive

bolded the interseting read changed
of note

thor was 'no idea how to read' but became 'helpful town'
marquis was 'reads town' but becoems 'not enough posts'
i was town / noob scum but the noob scum part is dropped.
all based on kitten's posts. nothin i did. what changed?
anti and varsoon change without reason

[droog]

a lot of mnem posts
are commentary
not really logic or cases just thoughts

nothing i can see scum or town intent in

[Gorkington]

Any reason you're liking Antilynch over MDlynch then?

[Marquis]

seeing that anti read from him the situation and recent posts make sense for md-scum who committed to an anti townread he doesn't know how to get out of but wants to get him mislynched now that it's a viable counterwagon, so he's not really defending him or bringing up that townread again

[Thor665]

Sakura's buddy interaction and skipping over you.

i'm not sure which universe that qualifies as a "case"

this one is not it

That is very much a case.
You can argue that you, personally, like cases that are more wall-like or something - but a case can indeed exist based off a single point, and the lack of additional points is, at best a compliment to your scum game, and at worst an insult to my town game - but it fails to prevent the case from being a case.

You're also still being dodgy as hell with all that "bigger picture" and "halfway through his ISO" bull-hooey you're offering up as weird smokescreen/attacks at me and, even when I'm calling you flat out on them you're not saying anything about it.
Also, you're ducking people asking you about your case.
You've gone full lurk with batting attacks as your posting style for about the last 24 hours.

This does not sell me on you being town.

Also, that case that isn't a case (and that other people are saying I'm not pushing hard enough)? It just got another vote on you.
So, y'know, address it?
Maybe address some of that other insanity you're spewing too?

Antihero (town meta. i have no idea why you guys are so hellbent on his lynch but there's such a noticeable difference between his town and scum meta and this one is the former)

If you can read him like a book this begs for further explanation.
Especially considering the current path the wagons are taking - if you town read him you should have started in on this about two days ago.
Clarify this?

[Gorkington]

TBF I'm pretty sure Marquis has been calling Anti town for a while iirc. I wouldn't mind him elaborating on why Anti's latest behavior is striking him as being normal townAnti behavior though.
Marquis should answer my last question to him as well.

[pisskop]

Are you trying to coordinate a lynch on me instead of NKing me?

[Gorkington]

Gathering associative tells for after you flip scum.
Duh.

[Marquis]

i don't really have an opinion on pisskop either way but i don't really feel like lynching him either

idk. when i was making that list and got to his name i couldn't think of anything except for a vague "i think he might have done some town things maybe i'm not sure" whisper in my head

don't really care that much tho cuz i want a mnemonic lynch rly badly

[Gorkington]

Why is elusive on your 'would lynch' list then?

[Marquis]

oh that post is weird though. idk if scum but i mean you claimed it outright already so scum probably have it in mind. but the passive scum accusation against a cop claim is weird.

i guess i could see it as scum knowing his days are numbered. if i stretch a bit out of my happy little tunnel.

[droog]

seeing that anti read from him the situation and recent posts make sense for md-scum who committed to an anti townread he doesn't know how to get out of but wants to get him mislynched now that it's a viable counterwagon, so he's not really defending him or bringing up that townread again

i could see this
this is also the first post of yours all game
that i think of as content

though i skimmed a large part of the middle game

[Marquis]

Why is elusive on your 'would lynch' list then?

there wasn't any head whispering on that one

[Marquis]

i mean we could take this conversation further if you want me to risk accidentally hurting lots of peoples' feelings but i'd rather plead the fifth

[TheFuzzylogic99]

UNVOTE: Not Science
I am not sure if I am just doing a crappy job of making a case for NS scum or if if people are just ignoring me. Prob just sucking

I was going to vote Anti but some of MD recent comments made me rethink him as possible scum.I could see me voting either one .
I still want to lynch NS but I know at this point he going to survive another day.

[Marquis]

seeing that anti read from him the situation and recent posts make sense for md-scum who committed to an anti townread he doesn't know how to get out of but wants to get him mislynched now that it's a viable counterwagon, so he's not really defending him or bringing up that townread again

i could see this
this is also the first post of yours all game
that i think of as content

though i skimmed a large part of the middle game

i think you skipped most everything then but it's okay bc you're in my titanic

[Marquis]

townbloc*

[Gorkington]

Gotcha.
Antithoughts would be great now.

@droog, it makes sense to you, but you're voting for copper.
*scratches head*

P-Edit: Eh.
Eh.
Let's not have more dumb drama this game. As hypocritical as I am for saying that.

[Marquis]

anti wagon sure does remind me of titanic-esque levels of catastrophe tho

[Gorkington]

hi marquis talk about Anti being town more kthnx.
His dodgy response to Thor seems normal to you?

[Thor665]

TBF I'm pretty sure Marquis has been calling Anti town for a while iirc. I wouldn't mind him elaborating on why Anti's latest behavior is striking him as being normal townAnti behavior though.
Marquis should answer my last question to him as well.

I'm mostly interested in how one towns him Day 1 and Day 2 - the play shift seems really jarring to me.

@Fuzzy - you're being ignored currently - your last case presentation on him was actually pretty good. It just didn't really sell me more than Anti. You need to work harder at engagement after case presentation. I will (Christlike in my humility) suggest you go back and look at how I did Anti. It's not about making a bigger and prettier case - it's about making sure people read the case and offer thoughts. That's how you push.