New York 185: Freshwater Frenzy!

[Boonskiies]

Dragon's not getting lynched, so you can just say 2 mislynches, but most likely only 1. Bookitty/house, one is scum. let's be honest...

[Varsoon]

Do you seriously think that in a 14-3-3-1 setup, there'd be a five person neighborhood that is ALL TOWN?

C'mon, man.

I'm in a Neighborhood. It's 4 people.
If there's no scum between both of those, I'll buy everyone in this game a pizza.

[Boonskiies]

god damn it, wake. You made a 5-4-3 setup, didn't you? Haha.

[Ozgin]

I would think if she's scum, she would't go after you if she thinks you are a VT. WIFOM I know but her Citizen point is actually one reason I'm townreading her plus her tunnel on you is so town Titus like. I've seen her scum tunnels. They make zero sense and she often has crazy theories like when she tunnelled me as scum (I was town) she wanted to group up with me and others to lynch a person at one point and another time she tried to bargain with House to lynch me and then kill another player he wanted lynched she wasn't even scumreading. Here her push is very focused and in a way that I get. I'm not sure if I should be getting Titus logic and townreading her for that but she's not pulling this crazy scum shit she has before and her town tunnels are just like this.

Well, it was an off-hand theory, which don't help much of anything. But you have to understand that her tunnel on me makes zero sense because her whole argument is that I said Citizen, therefore scummy.

@Boon - What are your points against House/Bookitty, and what're your points for townDragon? Why shouldn't we trust Houses's JoAT claim?

PEdit; Varsoon, order me a Hawaiian, even if there are scum in one of the two neighborhoods. I could go for a pizza pie right about now.

[Boonskiies]

god damn it, wake. You made a 5-4-3 setup, didn't you? Haha.

@T S O - Masquerade, eh?

[Ozgin]

@Boon - Can you (or anyone who wants to field this question) tell me what the hell a 5-4-3 setup is?

[Aneninen]

Yeah, just like in Masquerade, Boonie! ^_^

[Varsoon]

I owe you a pizza for stressing you out, Ozgin.
I'll let you know when my check comes in. :3

Also, yeah, pretty much this:
"What are your points against House/Bookitty, and what're your points for townDragon?"

(Also, we shouldn't trust House's JOAT claim because he only claimed 3 abilities. JOATs have 4.)

[Boonskiies]

@ozgin - the learning of the second neighborhood changes things a little bit. Drag is just towny mctown town.

With this new information, I feel scum is more likely in the 4 person neighborhood.


Oh, 5-4-3 setup, as in neighborhoods. a 5 person neighborhood, a 4 person neighborhood, and a 3 person neighborhood. Leads to usually semi symmetrical setups. there probably is some kind of mason group with a neighbor + someone without a neighborhood to get a 2 person group, and then the 3-3-1 we were given makes a cool 1 person group. 6 townies outside of that would make a cool 6-5-4-3-2-1 pattern. But we need some flips before going deeper into this.


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I had a fun time with Masquerade, so i just got totally excited for this game.

[Aneninen]

@Boon - Can you (or anyone who wants to field this question) tell me what the hell a 5-4-3 setup is?

There was another game with three Neighbourhoods, one consisted of 5 players, the other one of 4 and the third one of 3. Although there was no SK.

(Also, we shouldn't trust House's JOAT claim because he only claimed 3 abilities. JOATs have 4.)

Don't make me post another pigeon!
This is the game we're talking about: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=59293
Check out TierShift's Role. JOAT with TWO abilities! Not four!

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Yeah, Boonie, I kept reading that game every now and then. Although the Werewolf team made me STFU at Night1 while the Mafia team wanted to lynch me. ^_^ By the way, Egg was there too. We died at the same Night.

[Boonskiies]

That game, Aneninen/myself were a part of the 5 person neighborhood with 0 scum in it, so it's totally possible to have zero scum there. the 4 person neighborhood had 2 scum from different factions.

[Boonskiies]

It's a shame I think I'm not going to last too long in this game. I've been getting killed Night 1 in my large normals recently.

[Varsoon]

Eeeeeh,
Do you guys think that it's best to just out our neighborhoods entirely?
If there's scum in them, they already know. :/

[SilverWolf]

Reads:

Spoiler:

Reads:

-getting town vibes off anen's latests posts and explanations-they make sense, I like them, I can see the logic

-dragon and boon are town so let's move on from this

-Taly: Went from town to null because of the wishy-washy, fence-sittingness of her votes

-Kitz: Moved from scum to null for her good Prolapsed Brain point and her genuine frustration with the push on her 14:3:3:1 question

-Egg: town for his line of questioning which looks more like he's trying to figure everyone out and get reads

-Varsoon: moved to kind of weak nulltown now because I liked some of his posts for looking genuine and how involved he's been in the game but he's too focused on dragon lynch and things like House claim, who's in what neighborhoud and masonry stuff we shouldn't be caring about right now

-Skybird: Leaning scum here, her posts are too superficial and don't seem to lead anywhere, she promised reads and never delivered

-Prolapsed looks like scum due to Kitz's points

-Cheetory: looks town to me

-Ozgin: scum for reasons I've explained but willing to interact with him more

-boo, RC-very light townreads

-drixx, TSO, Aero, FA-null as null can be-would absolutely love to see them post a lot more

-House: bad claim plus dragon tunnel and not much else-while I don't like him, I don't see scum pulling the JOAT gambit really

-la la: leaning scum due to fading away after defending herself from initial wagon and the pressure easing

pedit: I recommend those in neighbourhoods scumhunt within your hoods and if anything is fishy, bring it out-otherwise all this talk is, is speculation at this point and not much else-as far as outing them, I see no problem with it but maybe check with those in it to see if they want to?

Also: anen, I think I've seen enough pigeon poop gifs until tomorrow at the earliest

[Boonskiies]

Eeeeeh,
Do you guys think that it's best to just out our neighborhoods entirely?
If there's scum in them, they already know. :/

I don't see outing neighborhoods as a problem ever.

[Ozgin]

I owe you a pizza for stressing you out, Ozgin.
I'll let you know when my check comes in. :3

Also, yeah, pretty much this:
"What are your points against House/Bookitty, and what're your points for townDragon?"

(Also, we shouldn't trust House's JOAT claim because he only claimed 3 abilities. JOATs have 4.)

I agree, I don't think outing hoods is a terrible idea.

@Varsoon - I'll be waitin, and JoAT doesn't always have to have 4, it can be more or less, but I've teased the idea that House has a fourth ability that he isn't telling us (a good reason to FoS dragon or a protective thing like commuter).

@Silverwolf - How can I interact with you to change your mind?

[SilverWolf]

@Silverwolf - How can I interact with you to change your mind?

You are still voting Varsoon. Do you think he's scum even though earlier you seem to be letting up on that idea?

What are your reads on some of the other players?

[Varsoon]

Pretty sure Ozgin is on dat wondrous Dragonspawn wagon.

[Ozgin]

Yeah, and Silver, I tied my reads into my response to one of your posts earlier, as well.

[SilverWolf]

That's what I get for playing distracted with a billion things and trying to keep track of a large fast moving game at the same time. I need to take notes or something.

So you think dragon is scum because of House's claim and push then? Anything else?

And you say TSO is strange-is this scummy or? You mention anen not liking your reactions? How are you reading him?

You mention Bookitty, Varsoon, Titus. Anyone else?

I swear, if I missed your answers to these questions, I'm giving up and going to bed. LOL

[dragonspawn]

Is there a claim for a 3 person hood that I missed? Or is it the other game?

I've played a wake game where three scum were in a four person hood. Wolf was the only townie.

[Wake1]

'Dwarf Gourami'

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Vote Count 1.09

Aeronaut

Aneninen

Bookitty

Boonskiies

Boonskiies

Cheetory6

dragonspawn

RadiantCowbells

,

Cheetory6

,

Varsoon

,

Ozgin

,

House

Drixx

Egg

FA_Q2

House

lalaladucks

Kitz

lalaladucks

Ozgin

Titus

,

Kitz

,

T S O

,

Egg

,

Aneninen

,

Silverwolf

,

Bookitty

Prolapsed Brain

RadiantCowbells

Silverwolf

Skybird

Taly

Titus

T S O

dragonspawn

Varsoon

Not Voting:

Aeronaut

,

Drixx

,

FA_Q2

,

Prolapsed Brain

,

Taly

,

Skybird

Spoiler: Information

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Natural Action Resolution

Natural Action Resolution

Commute - {Commuter}
Blocking - {Roleblocker > Rolestopper}
Jailkeep - {Jailkeeper}
Protection - {Doctor > Bodyguard}
Miscellaneous - {Neighborizer > Friendly Neighbor}
Kill - {Mafia factional kill = SK factional kill = Vigilante}
Role Investigation - {Cop > Gunsmith > Role Cop > Vanilla Cop}
Action Investigation - {Tracker > Watcher > Voyeur > Follower > Motion Detector}

The '>' represents internal priority between the roles.
The '=' means that internal priority between the roles is the same.
All Night Kills have the same priority/speed.

Rules OP

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With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Deadline is 05/28/15, @4PM CT.

(expired on 2015-05-28 16:00:00)

1.00 | 1.01 | 1.02 | 1.03 | 1.04 | 1.05 | 1.06 | 1.07 | 1.08 | 1.09 | 1.10 | 1.11 | 1.12 | 1.13
Ozgin Lynch & Flip
Varsoon Death & Flip
2.00 | 2.01 | 2.02 | 2.03 | 2.04 | 2.05
Titus Lynch & Flip
T S O and Aneninen Death & Flip
3.00 | 3.01 | 3.02 | 3.03 | 3.04 | 3.05 | 3.06 | 3.07 | 3.08

[dragonspawn]

Aero you ever going to start posting?

[Titus]

Do you seriously think that in a 14-3-3-1 setup, there'd be a five person neighborhood that is ALL TOWN?

C'mon, man.

I'm in a Neighborhood. It's 4 people.
If there's no scum between both of those, I'll buy everyone in this game a pizza.

Mastina did that in HU2, made a neighborhood that was all town.

[SilverWolf]

I've played a wake game where three scum were in a four person hood. Wolf was the only townie.

Yeah, 2 ice scum, 1 fire scum, and me-a VT. I can't even believe my luck with that one.

IIRC, 2 of those were all town and one other had one scum and there was that large neighborizer hood. The other game Wake used hoods, I think there was an all town one and the rest had scum but don't ask me to remember that for sure cuz too long ago.

So the best thing to do is just scumhunt in the hoods and don't say anything in them you don't want scum to hear.

I don't see a downside outing the hoods here. The more information shared the better I guess.