New York 185: Freshwater Frenzy!

[Titus]

The difference is brain is a straight up PL - there is no content there. Lala has directly posted scummy CONTENT. She also continues to evade the questions brought to her about that scummy content. Lala is clearly scum.

If I had unlimited time I would answer everything in-depth, I haven't actually read the whole game yet. I'm not clearly scum gosh.
In fact, I think you're likely scum for pushing to lynch me because I'm an easy lynch ~_~
Not only based on OMGUS okay, scum literally tries to get me lynched in every game I play.

Me too. Unfortunately, it becomes their deathknell. Emphasis on usually. Just take your time, develop your abilities. Give us some reads. You don't have to be as confident as me. Hell, most would appreciate it if you weren't.

[Titus]

I'd rather avoid mislynching town if possible.
If it weren't for my soft, Ozgin would've already likely been lynched today.
If I can clear him, I'd like to do that rather than have us end the day on a ML.

I don't think anyone buys your soft, given the pushback on you.

The only reason Ozgin hasn't been lynched is because I am pushing it and the number of players who have baggage with me is let's just say plentiful.

[House]

Dear Titus,

VOTE: Ozgin

Sincerely,

House

[Titus]

Dr. Good Doctor,

Thank you.

Sincerely,

Cloak and Dagger

[Egg]

@FAQ2: I think a lot of the points you're making against laladucks are the reasons why the Prolapsed wagon is as popular as it is.
I'll hold that any player who has low content and low quality-per-post is low-hanging fruit. That doesn't really speak towards their alignment, but instead towards how easily they might be lynched.
At this point in the game, I'd be fine with a lynch on laladucks as well. I'm holding out to see what Prolapsed has to post.

The difference is brain is a straight up PL - there is no content there. Lala has directly posted scummy CONTENT. She also continues to evade the questions brought to her about that scummy content. Lala is clearly scum.

I thought the case on Prolapsed was mostly meta. I mean, I'm not voting him but I have him as weak scum for an awkward post early in the game. I don't think anyone is voting him for policy. I could be wrong. It's happened before and it will happen again.

Lala, please don't do the "easy lynch" copout. Anyone who gets 11 votes on Day 1 is "easy". Scum can be "easy" to vote. It's just a bad point to make. If it becomes a pattern, we'll talk. But one "easy" vote on Day 1 isn't a big deal.

[Drixx]

<3 you too, Drixx.
Please catch up sometime soon, yeah?

Yeah man. That sudden V/LA involved almost no sleep for 3 solid days, and after today's nap I finally feel like myself.

[Titus]

@FAQ2: I think a lot of the points you're making against laladucks are the reasons why the Prolapsed wagon is as popular as it is.
I'll hold that any player who has low content and low quality-per-post is low-hanging fruit. That doesn't really speak towards their alignment, but instead towards how easily they might be lynched.
At this point in the game, I'd be fine with a lynch on laladucks as well. I'm holding out to see what Prolapsed has to post.

The difference is brain is a straight up PL - there is no content there. Lala has directly posted scummy CONTENT. She also continues to evade the questions brought to her about that scummy content. Lala is clearly scum.

I thought the case on Prolapsed was mostly meta. I mean, I'm not voting him but I have him as weak scum for an awkward post early in the game. I don't think anyone is voting him for policy. I could be wrong. It's happened before and it will happen again.

Lala, please don't do the "easy lynch" copout. Anyone who gets 11 votes on Day 1 is "easy". Scum can be "easy" to vote. It's just a bad point to make. If it becomes a pattern, we'll talk. But one "easy" vote on Day 1 isn't a big deal.

Funny, that's the exact line people were using not to vote Ozgin and I didn't hear many comments like these. Just that it's too fast and shit.

[Egg]

You'll notice I'm voting Ozgin.

[Titus]

Agreed. Sometimes when you speak, the message can be for others. #yodaTitus

[Egg]

Yeah but you quoted me.

=P

[Titus]

Yeah but you quoted me.

=P

Yes. I did. I was quoting you to say you were right. The "fast lynch" push is crap. Ozgin should be lynched. Time to dispense with the bullshit reasons people aren't voting him and get this done.

[Egg]

Yeah but you quoted me.

=P

Yes. I did. I was quoting you to say you were right. The "fast lynch" push is crap. Ozgin should be lynched. Time to dispense with the bullshit reasons people aren't voting him and get this done.

*Egg likes this post*

[FA_Q2]

considering he is one of my scum suspects atm I can go for an Ozgin lynch.

VOTE: Ozgin

[dragonspawn]

What is the vote count?

[FA_Q2]

@FAQ2: I think a lot of the points you're making against laladucks are the reasons why the Prolapsed wagon is as popular as it is.
I'll hold that any player who has low content and low quality-per-post is low-hanging fruit. That doesn't really speak towards their alignment, but instead towards how easily they might be lynched.
At this point in the game, I'd be fine with a lynch on laladucks as well. I'm holding out to see what Prolapsed has to post.

The difference is brain is a straight up PL - there is no content there. Lala has directly posted scummy CONTENT. She also continues to evade the questions brought to her about that scummy content. Lala is clearly scum.

I thought the case on Prolapsed was mostly meta. I mean, I'm not voting him but I have him as weak scum for an awkward post early in the game. I don't think anyone is voting him for policy. I could be wrong. It's happened before and it will happen again.

Lala, please don't do the "easy lynch" copout. Anyone who gets 11 votes on Day 1 is "easy". Scum can be "easy" to vote. It's just a bad point to make. If it becomes a pattern, we'll talk. But one "easy" vote on Day 1 isn't a big deal.

I missed any argument that it was a meta read and do not have any meta on him myself. I don't put a whole lot of stock in meta either - people change their game all the time. Prolapsed has done nothing that I would consider scummy other than not doing anything at all. That is a PL if I have ever seen one.

Day one hard lurkers are not indicative of scum. Lurking in general is a shit reason to lynch as well - you are going to hit town more often than you hit scum. Could Prolapsed be scum? Certainly. Is he? I don't know - he has no content with which to make a reasonable read.

The easy copout by lala is bullshit as well - there are hard reasons for my vote on lala and she refuses to address them (because she is caught scum). Just getting scummier by the moment.

[Egg]

What is the vote count?

If I'm counting right, Oz is L-6 and Prolapsed is L-5. Don't take that as fact though.

FA, who voted Prolapsed for policy? I missed that one apparently.

[FA_Q2]

I think that pro is at l-5 and oz at l-4

That is my best guess at this point.

@mod - could we get a vote count when you can. Been a few pages.

pedit: am i giving one more than they got somewhere?

[FA_Q2]

I doubt you missed anything - you said they were voting him for meta. I think that is rather weak considering that there is no content in his posts. They might not be stating they are voting him as a PL but that is the way

I

see those votes.

[lalaladucks]

The easy copout by lala is bullshit as well - there are hard reasons for my vote on lala and she refuses to address them (because she is caught scum). Just getting scummier by the moment.

What hard reasons?

[Titus]

I doubt you missed anything - you said they were voting him for meta. I think that is rather weak considering that there is no content in his posts. They might not be stating they are voting him as a PL but that is the way

I

see those votes.

Bit of Both. Prolapsed is a lurker. That's the policy.
Prolapsed has a history of lurking as scum. That's a meta argument.

Still it sucks when we have someone who claimed scum in thread and scum are flailing to get any sort of counterwagon going.

[lalaladucks]

points in 1034. I don't like how lala points to people as scum with the only discernible reason being others recently pointed that direction - particularly sheeping boon who provides nothing to sheep other than being town.

I think lala is scum who does not have enough time to play

or inclination to read the entire damn thread as it is quite an undertaking in these large games. As I said -

it is extremely opportunistic.

This?
You're saying I'm opportunistic. Okay, whatever.
You seem to think I'm apathetic scum but in fact, I'm more apathetic town. I feel like investing heaps of effort here would be a waste of my time because my lynch is inevitable. It's still Day 1 and we have much more posts than even some of my completed games.
Feel like I'm digging a deeper hole for myself and making it easy for scum :/
Ugh

[Titus]

lalala, then stop whining. When you whine, it makes people think "lala has enough time to post and whine, she's avoiding making content". Is it fair? No. But the message we send isn't always fair.

Off the top of your head

3 top town reads
3 top scum reads.

Next 3 town reads.
Next 3 scumreads.

No reason, just gut.

[killerjester]

'Turquoise Rainbowfish'

Melanotaenia lacustris

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Vote Count 1.11

Aneninen

Bookitty

Boonskiies

Cheetory6

DeltaWave

dragonspawn

RadiantCowbells

Drixx

Egg

FA_Q2

House

Kitz

lalaladucks

Aneninen

Ozgin

Titus

,

T S O

,

Egg

,

Bookitty

,

House

,

FA_Q2

Prolapsed Brain

Cheetory6

,

Varsoon

,

Silverwolf

,

Kitz

,

Ozgin

,

lalaladucks

RadiantCowbells

Silverwolf

Skybird

Taly

Boonskiies

Titus

T S O

Varsoon

dragonspawn

,

Drixx

Not Voting:

DeltaWave

,

Prolapsed Brain

,

Taly

,

Skybird

Spoiler: Information

VLA

Skybird

[05/26/15]

Silverwolf

[05/23/15]

Natural Action Resolution

Natural Action Resolution

Commute - {Commuter}
Blocking - {Roleblocker > Rolestopper}
Jailkeep - {Jailkeeper}
Protection - {Doctor > Bodyguard}
Miscellaneous - {Neighborizer > Friendly Neighbor}
Kill - {Mafia factional kill = SK factional kill = Vigilante}
Role Investigation - {Cop > Gunsmith > Role Cop > Vanilla Cop}
Action Investigation - {Tracker > Watcher > Voyeur > Follower > Motion Detector}

The '>' represents internal priority between the roles.
The '=' means that internal priority between the roles is the same.
All Night Kills have the same priority/speed.

Rules OP

Link

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Deadline is 05/28/15, @4PM CT.

(expired on 2015-05-28 16:00:00)

1.00 | 1.01 | 1.02 | 1.03 | 1.04 | 1.05 | 1.06 | 1.07 | 1.08 | 1.09 | 1.10 | 1.11 | 1.12 | 1.13
Ozgin Lynch & Flip
Varsoon Death & Flip
2.00 | 2.01 | 2.02 | 2.03 | 2.04 | 2.05
Titus Lynch & Flip
T S O and Aneninen Death & Flip
3.00 | 3.01 | 3.02 | 3.03 | 3.04 | 3.05 | 3.06 | 3.07 | 3.08

[lalaladucks]

Top 3 Town

Boonskiies
dragonspawn
Egg

Top 3 Scum

SilverWolf
FA_Q2
Bookitty

Next 3 Town

House
Titus
Aneninen

Next 3 Scum

Taly
Kitz
Varsoon

Obviously I expect my town reads to be more accurate than the scumreads since there are twice as many town as scum.

[Titus]

Now, Lala, I'm not suggesting any answer to you. Look at your reads, apply it to the gamestate. I'll walk you through how.

Look at where your major townreads are. Look at where your major scumreads are. Why? Would you want to follow your townread? How does that make you feel?

Don't worry about being right, just type what your gut says right now.