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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 8:56 am

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VOTE: Persiv

Because:
In post 312, Green Crayons wrote:Persivul I thought was town for the first half of what game there is, but after that he's been saying things that don't really get me feeling rad.

In post 337, Green Crayons wrote:
@Persivul:


YGS's Persivul suspicions are credited.

Also Persivul's is a muddle. and is an equally confusing follow up. Like, Persivul is reaching to attack his voter kind of muddle.

Ugh. I don't like anything on Page 12.

In post 343, Green Crayons wrote:I think his 180 on the BBmolla plan is also iffy, as well as his mix of knowing what is going on + "I'm newbie so help me out here"

In post 412, Green Crayons wrote:Oh, well I don't think Persiv is posting like that, and looks much more like clunky attempts at manipulation/accusations.

In post 461, Green Crayons wrote:
@Newbie:


1.
In post 337, Green Crayons wrote:YGS's Persivul suspicions are credited.

Spoiler: these posts
In post 201, You Got Schooled wrote:Alright, I'm rereading.

Something feels off here; Persivul votes ika (it looks like another RVS vote?)
In post 30, Persivul wrote:VOTE: ika

I presume our mayor was just murdered or some such...and you just want to chat around the fire? ;)

Then, Newbie questions him about jumping on the ika wagon;
In post 31, Newbie wrote:^
What compelled you to jump on the wagon?

Without responding to Newbie, Persivul quietly jumps back off the ika wagon (with another RVS vote?);
In post 36, Persivul wrote:Damn lurkers

VOTE: sthar8

Hey green funyuns, who were you quoting?!?


- Lane, here you vote GC for 'forced attempts at scum hunting'.

- Yet here, you compliment the ika wagon and vote us.

Was your original vote on GC a serious one? If it was, what did we do that was so scummy to make you change your vote?

In post 219, You Got Schooled wrote: - Another bad vote from Persivul. That's four so far.

- Molla, I disagree on Newbie. I can understand his push and the motivations behind it.

- Lane, given you think wagon hopping is scummy, what is your read on Persivul?

- Persivul, what makes you think that an early wagon will lead to a lynch? Do you suggest we have a page/post limit before we're allowed to have a wagon reach L-2/L-1?

Further, if you have an early scum read, do you propose holding onto this read until we reach a certain point of the game as well? I mean, your whole argument basically says 'don't do things early game that involve scum hunting because it's scummy' and this is absurd.

- Despite what I just said to Molla, I don't like Newbie giving up on his Lane push. If he genuinely believed in what he was pushing, I don't know why he would back off because his scum read is getting frustrated. This doesn't make sense.

I'm thinking it actually has more to do with the resistance to Lane getting wagoned.

2.
In post 337, Green Crayons wrote:Also Persivul's is a muddle. and is an equally confusing follow up. Like, Persivul is reaching to attack his voter kind of muddle.

- Post 271: the "effort =/= alignment, why are you suspecting low vote count people?!" is a very blunt attack of "Misconception X should not be a basis for a vote, therefore I will attack your suspicions as if they are based upon Misconception X"

- Post 281: follows up on Post 271, which is bleh; also states a pointless truism (paraphrased: "scummy posts are scummy") in his attack on Newbie; also talks about Newbie doing associative tells, which I still don't know wtf. All of which = bad push against Newbie.

- Post 283: having been called out on the "Newbie is using associative tells" out of left field, gets defensive with a nonsense response: (quote here to emphasis defensiveness) "Point is that since you're just voting on shit I'm not real concerned about it."

3.
In post 337, Green Crayons wrote:Ugh. I don't like anything on Page 12.

- This was me being lazy because I didn't want to type out my response to each post other on Page 12 that bothered me

- : comical misrep-by-question of ika. Looking at it now I could see how Anti would be like "ah, yes, newbtown black-and-while bluntness!," but there's more manipulation that that, as indicated by the Fox News questioning format. E.g., "Hey is it true that you beat your wife? I'm just asking questions!"

- : this is part of Persivul's string of posts about town night action strategy that I don't like; here, he's a wise master about what we should do, when earlier in the game he was all like "what is game breaking?" and "this night strategy thing seems legit". There's more nuance to it, in terms of the various messages Persivul has put forward on the night action strategy, but I'm several beers in at this point and nobody really cares.

- / : I didn't like this vote originally because it was on BB and was dumb. I still feel that way, but I don't know if it makes Persivul scum, necessarily, and tends to favor Anti's "black and white newbtown" narrative.

Don't just take my word for it:
In post 336, BBmolla wrote:Oh I think Persival scumslipped

VOTE: Persivul

In post 458, BBmolla wrote:I disagree on your persivul read anti
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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 8:56 am

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Anti

I followed you

You were wrong

Pay me back, holmes
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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 8:59 am

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Antihero wrote:'mkay so i might have been wrong on persifjdksla;f;lkdsajflkd;samflea;smifosa what's his face


Not being difficult, but what has your read changed to? I looked him up in your iso and from what I could work out he started scum, turned to town and is now scum?


Antihero wrote:ika's pretty obviously town and he's AGAIN your go-to push

nope, not getting away with it this time


That hammer was pretty bad, though. Willing to assume it's just ika if you can explain why else he is town?

ika wrote:what happened to the GC scum read BBT?


We've still got it in reserve, especially with the newbie push. But, her p-edit push on Pers looks better...

ika wrote:also im going to make myself look super scummy by stating that it was obvious BB was jker based off how he was going "we dont need to worry about JKer"


Oh god. I'm gonna leave reading you to other people for now, ok?

-bella

(I give bbt the power of our vote for five minutes...:P)
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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 9:01 am

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In post 616, You Got Schooled wrote:
In post 609, sthar8 wrote:dislike that post

You wanna start summin?

i will bury you
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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 9:04 am

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Sthar, come at me bro.
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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 9:05 am

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Spoiler: not game related
kind of curious, how do bbt and bella know each other?
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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 9:06 am

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In post 626, Green Crayons wrote:Anti

I followed you

You were wrong

Pay me back, holmes


I ALREADY SAID I MIGHT HAVE BEEN WRONG

WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME

MUST I GET DOWN ON MY KNEES?
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 9:06 am

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no

Just vote Persiv.
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 9:07 am

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anti, its obvious its YGS/GC

lets just lyncht hem andbe done with it
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 9:07 am

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seriously one between YGS & Persiv is scum

more likely Persiv than YGS
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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 9:08 am

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In post 633, ika wrote:anti, its obvious its YGS/GC

lets just lyncht hem andbe done with it

I upgraded from POE to obvscum?
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 9:08 am

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@Anti, we played an Open together.
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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 9:09 am

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In post 635, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 633, ika wrote:anti, its obvious its YGS/GC

lets just lyncht hem andbe done with it

I upgraded from POE to obvscum?


Your not voting YGS?

you eblieve its both so why does it matter who we lynch first, i beleive its YGS more then perv
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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 9:10 am

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I don't believe they're both scum.

I have explained why I think that they are not likely to be scum together.

I have explained why I think Persiv is more likely to be scum than YGS.
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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 9:10 am

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In post 636, You Got Schooled wrote:@Anti, we played an Open together.

i never pegged you for a hydra whore
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 9:11 am

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This is the first one I have ever done.
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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 9:12 am

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I think that's Anti way of saying he wants to hydra with you.

It's love!
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 9:12 am

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Anti, I'm just really...persuasive. And appealing. You jealous, bro?

GC, thoughts on ika?

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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 9:13 am

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I liked his D1 play up until he hammered (fine) without a claim (not fine).

If Persiv is scum he drops in my opinion. If YGS is scum he climbs in my opinion.
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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 9:13 am

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In post 640, You Got Schooled wrote:This is the first one I have ever done.

and it's with someone you only have 1 game with?

psh, i'm more exclusive with my hydras

that's why i have 8 of them
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 9:14 am

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Working from memory. Would probably reread upon Persiv/YGS flip.
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 9:15 am

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Anti, if you're asking I'm accepting.

If you're not, I wouldn't have done it anyway.

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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 9:15 am

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In post 634, Green Crayons wrote:seriously one between YGS & Persiv is scum


i quote you one of them is scum

i am unconvinced persci is scum atm

i am convinced YGS is scum atm

i will fucking yell at anti if he tries to deviate from me so ya, gl with that

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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 9:16 am

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Cool, makes sense, gc.

@anti, why is ika town?
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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Mon May 25, 2015 9:16 am

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Ika, you're really bad at this game. Stop it.

Persivul is a good vote. We got sidetracked D1.

VOTE: Persivul

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