Mini 1685: BooneyToonz II - Looney Tunes

[Mainez]

VOTE: BBmolla for ignoring me when we played together HMPH

[Mainez]

If you're scum just bus the ever loving shit out of your partners, it's the best strategy, proven

you bussing BBB now?

[Mainez]

you desperate for a vote? nah you didn't ignore me. in fact you were so hard on me lol

BBmolla ignored me despite my calls for molla molla molla

how sad

[Mainez]

i'm just sad

[Mainez]

@RC lol you scum?
@BBmolla this is even more saddening, you didn't even realise

[Mainez]

@RC
why did you ignore my question

and lol 100%, much optimism

[Mainez]

no thanks

and i thought jester isn't normal, or are you trolling me

[Mainez]

as in isn't this game a normal game and jester is a non-normal role?
lol i'm not trolling anyone, i'm confused

[Mainez]

yea i know
you're scum then right

[Mainez]

shh.

yea i know
you're scum then right

I'm just curious, what reactions are you looking for here?

What response would indicate town and which would indicate scum?

Because right now it just looks like you're throwing things out and hoping something works.

what i'm looking out for is for me to know
more importantly, why are you not answering me?

[Mainez]

i don't get Salamemce20???
it's as if he's speaking some alien language l o l

[Mainez]

shh.

yea i know
you're scum then right

I'm just curious, what reactions are you looking for here?

What response would indicate town and which would indicate scum?

Because right now it just looks like you're throwing things out and hoping something works.

what i'm looking out for is for me to know
more importantly, why are you not answering me?

I see no value in answering your question.

I'm town. If I were scum, I would not be tripped up by someone asking me if I was town.

Your reaction test just exasperated me.

didn't you just answer me

[Mainez]

since there's time in d1, might as well make the best out of it. unless Varsoon is proposing that we run someone up to l-1...

pedit: oh

[Mainez]

RC seems town, why do you wanna lynch RC?

[Mainez]

VOTE: Salamence20

[Mainez]

since when was there a pacman in this game

[Mainez]

OH GOD SALAMENCE JUST TURNED INTO HELLO KITTY

[Mainez]

since when was there a pacman in this game

Fake.

what fake? he had only 1 post prior to that post that i didn't even know he existed in this game

[Mainez]

also, i feel like Salamence's claim is fake...

[Mainez]

question: what does a normal set up look like? it's my first normal game. can it have anything and everything from the list of normal roles?

[Mainez]

i think RC and BBT are both town
pisskop not so much like 211-215 doesn't look genuine, possibly planned and 223-224 are crap

[Mainez]

i still suggest we go with a Salamence lynch

[Mainez]

BBT why are you not unwilling to put Salamence at L-1 when you had intent to hammer?
you said Salamence is faking his claim too...

[Mainez]

pisskop i'm not chatting shit

BBT why are you willing to vote Salamence now?

[Mainez]

we do have 11 days to go so we have quite a bit of time to sort things out

[Mainez]

Anen, why is Salamence telling the truth if Varsoon and BBmolla are indeed masons?

[Mainez]

crap

sorry i meant why is Salemence lying if Varsoon and BBmolla are indeed masons

[Mainez]

i stand by my view that Salamence's claim is fake.

does looking at completed normal games help me understand the set up of normal games better? i looked at a few and they all seem rather different. but i kinda get a general feel.

[Mainez]

massive, you are saying that you're in a neighbourhood with BBmolla and Varsoon?

Varsoon, were you trying to hide the fact that there is a third person in the neighbourhood by saying you're in a masonry?

BBmolla, why did you confirm that you're in a masonry with Varsoon? are you trying to prove that you're town, or prove that Varsoon is town? or are you trying to hide that massive is in the neighbourhood?

[Mainez]

so much going on

a little busy today and tomorrow so i'll try to make sense of everything when i'm back home tonight, like 9-10 more hours.

[Mainez]

when i joined mafiascum, i said i won't curse or swear

BUT I REALLY WANT TO NOW

[Mainez]

so pisskop, are you saying you're in a neighbourhood?

[Mainez]

DrDolittle help me out with this lol you're probably the only one that'll make sense to me

[Mainez]

don't even know what RC is trying to achieve with his last 3 posts

pisskop, what's considered weak PRs

[Mainez]

i am not in a freaking neighbourhood, screw RC

catching up now but i'm on mobile

[Mainez]

RC seems town, why do you wanna lynch RC?

What has RC done to earn a town read?

prior to that post, i was indeed thinking that RC is town, but not anymore.
why i used to think RC is town: 83, 101 and 102 looked towny, like while i was trying to sort of interrogate him, he interrogated me back and i felt it was town thinking and working things out. 136, 151, 153 looked legit too.

however, RC has been posting so much bullshit that he no longer looks like town to me. like 344, 356, 373, 375 etc. looking at his posts, he doesn't even seem to be hunting for scum but smoking it.

unable to link posts cause i'm on mobile, apologies.

[Mainez]

I really wanna vote PK right now.

why do you wanna vote pisskop? and what's stopping you from doing so?

[Mainez]

I actually have no clue why BBM went along with my 'lol WE ARE MASONS' thing. Every other Neighborhood I've suggested that in (in other games) has been like, 'Ehe, no.'
I don't see how that's scummy, though. :l

I

also

really don't like that BBT is running such a hard case on me that's founded on loads of him being unable to read the game properly. One of his first points was that I said I was following the IC to lynch on Sala 'but the IC was not voting Sala'. Nevermind that the IC had an outspoken scumread there

and

later went to vote for Sala.

VOTE: BBT
For, I'unno, lying to try to get town (me!) lynched.


Also, all this 'IF ONE OF BBM OR VARSOON IS SCUM THE OTHER DEFINITELY IS' shit needs to stop. As it turns out, two dudes in a neighborhood can claim masons and both of 'em could be different alignments. Hell, I'm pretty damn sure my 'hood is all town.


But, like, if you guys don't want to listen to me and you just wanna lynch whoever, please lynch me first. I've got a lot on my plate right now (not just on-site, but in meatworld, too) and the last thing I need is to come back to a game where town's self-destructing because they're too dense to even read the game properly.

I think the only reason you go along with it, knowing you aren't masons, is if you can control the kill. Varsoon, at the very least, could actually BE a mason outside our neighborhood. You however, tied your wagon to him, creating mutually-assured destruction if one of you dies. Guess you weren't planning on one of you dying.

vote BBmolla

And, actually, reconsidering this, uh, yeah, this.
VOTE: BBM

BBT, you're still not off the hook for lying like that. Also, I know it might earn some townpoints with folks to come back into a game swinging, but it doesn't seem genuine to me when it's founded on misreps.

weren't you pretty damn sure that your neighbourhood is town, what a quick change to voting BBmolla.

if you have a lot on your plate, shouldn't you replace out instead of asking us to lynch you?

[Mainez]

pisskop, what's considered weak PRs

Erm. I'd used the expression "Weak-PR" way before Pisskop. Why didn't you ask about the concept then?
By the way, Pisskop, defining Weak by X–Shots is pigeon poop. Eg. 1–shot Vig vs. Weak Bodyguard?

just trying to understand pisskop's train of thought, i think we all have our concept of what's weak and strong.

[Mainez]

omg BBmolla just like spammed the shit out of this, i'll read later and make sense out of it

i also need a vc soon lol

and i still wanna lynch salamence

[Mainez]

BBmolla, there's 6 votes on you???

[Mainez]

oh god okay i'll do some reading soon to see how that happened and also look into your spam of posts

[Mainez]

AHHH I DON'T KNOW BUT BBMOLLA LOOKS LIKE TOWN???????

bbmolla, what's your read list again?
pisskop, what's yours too?

[Mainez]

pisskop ignored me too

[Mainez]

eh? you said a read list benefits scum more than town this early but still went ahead to give a read list?

if you want to lynch Zeb, why are you voting for Varsoon?

[Mainez]

are you referring to my first or second question, i'm assuming it's the second?

if you said you covered that, then it was sloppy as hell. basically, my impression of you is that your vote jumps from one person to another person. first you're like i wanna lynch BBmolla (518) then you say you slightly scumread Varsoon but BBmolla is attracting your vote (544) then 553 is just crap, then you vote for Zeb (568) then you say you can be persuaded (589) then say Zeb is likely scum (594) then you vote Varsoon (596).

i don't know about the others but this looks really bad to me.

also apologies for not linking, i'm on mobile.

[Mainez]

You dont want to talk with me?

my internet was being weird sure let's talk

[Mainez]

eh i hate doing such stuff but ok i'll look into that game bleah

basically it looks horrible to me, and pls answer my first question.

pedit: i wanna see your stand because your vote jumps so easily from one person to another and yes i have a slight scumread on you

[Mainez]

whether or not your votes were on good targets is a different thing from your vote jumping around lol

unless that's your play style ew

[Mainez]

can you answer this:
"eh? you said a read list benefits scum more than town this early but still went ahead to give a read list?"

[Mainez]

i'm gonna have breakfast so i'm out of here for awhile

[Mainez]

Not what I asked you. we're talking.

whether or not your votes were on good targets is a different thing from your vote jumping around lol

unless that's your play style ew

Pls Answer this. Not doing so is bad.

So what votes did you think were good, or at least on good targets?

the targets themselves were ok but not a fan of the way you approach it

[Mainez]

Boo. Says she wants to talk - leaves me alone

i talked to you for like half an hour lol

[Mainez]

Oh, I was just saying I was a mason, 'cus.
I don't think I said 'I am masons with BBM' or anything like that.
:l
When Boon sent me the PM, I was all, "Oh, cool, a neighborhood... OR IS IT A MASONRY, EH EH?"
'cus yeah, I can def-def see my hood being all town.

don't like this post lol
why are you so sure your neighbourhood is all town at like page 8

[Mainez]

If she didnt really wanna talk then Ill shoot her tonight instead

If she didnt really wanna talk then Ill shoot her tonight instead

too bad, I'm jailkeeping her

what even????

[Mainez]

Mainez, I was pretty sure before the game opened.

why?

[Mainez]

WHY IS NOBODY VOTING SALAMENCE

[Mainez]

oh god can you like take a chill pill

[Mainez]

So if Mainez/BBM flip scum were lynching the other.

vote: BBM

I wanna be bad, yo. Epm, plz join. Zebbie, RC?

And frankly, my slight townread of Mainez evaporated as a result of our interactions. it was totes a good talk.

lol you reading me as scum now?

[Mainez]

can we lynch Salamence, he's like so bad you know, so so bad

[Mainez]

pisskop can you post more stuff like your latest posts

just checking in, out of here now

[Mainez]

prododge

apologies

[Mainez]

ok i'm here gosh, this game is a mess, i'm having a freaking hard time reading people.

though pisskop is posting a lot of crap making me really confused, i think he may be town.

[Mainez]

Readslist:

Confirmed Town:

Dr. Dolittle

Town:

BBMolla, massive

Leaning Town:

T S O, Salamance20, Aneninen

Null:

Varsoon, BlueBloodedToffee, evipacman18, Mainez

Leaning Scum:

RadiantCowbells

Scum:
Very Scum:

Pisskop

Gun to my head Pisskop RadiantCowbells Mainez. I don't trust Mainez becuase his confused town demeneor is really easy to fake as scum and doesn't offer much info, but he hasn't really done anything scummy. RadiantCowbells is just sputing fluff for half the game. I've already gone over why I thing you're scum.

Dr. Dolittle is conf town, BBMolla's rant looks extremely difficult to fake regardless of meta, massive is questioning stuff that needs to be questioned (he dropps to null if Pisskop's town), T S O has good logic in his couple of posts since he replaced and his predessessor didn't do anything, Salamance20 has a PR claim, Aneninen has bad logic sometimes but seems to genuinely believe the logic, null reads are null.

this is bad, like really bad.
gun to your head??? but you are reading me as null??? what even??? you even said that "he hasn't really done anything scummy". ok....? no.

also is salamance leaning town just because he had a PR claim?

[Mainez]

the issue is why is he saying i'm scum when i'm under his null list, and he even said that i haven't done anything scummy

i don't get this logic

[Mainez]

ok now i'm confused, did i misunderstand something? lol

[Mainez]

lol okay, thanks for the explanation, it was rather reasonable. i must have over-reacted, my bad. i still feel that it is a little fishy.

no i'm not an alt, why?

[Mainez]

it makes me uneasy that he has me as null but in the scum team. i think i'll actually feel better if he has me as like leaning scum and throw me in the scum team.

[Mainez]

the people on the Zeb wagon do look better than those on pisskop's...

must i really choose between the 2? gosh.

i wanna lynch Salamence lol

[Mainez]

the people on the Zeb wagon do look better than those on pisskop's...

must i really choose between the 2? gosh.

i wanna lynch Salamence lol

Bussing exists, you know.

who is bussing who

[Mainez]

was looking through Zeb's ISO, and there were a bunch of posts of him asking pisskop for explanations lol like one after another it was like "explanation?"

i do agree that pisskop play is kinda anti-town and it makes me have a hard time in reading the game

[Mainez]

was looking through Zeb's ISO, and there were a bunch of posts of him asking pisskop for explanations lol like one after another it was like "explanation?"

i do agree that pisskop play is kinda anti-town and it makes me have a hard time in reading the game

Pisskop is anti-town and anti-town players should be lynched.

That "I will eat the newspaper lying in front of me if PIsskop is town" thing I said earlier? I meant that, and I will do that if he flips town. THat's how confident I am in this.

P-Edit: Who are you talking to?

i don't really care whether you are gonna eat newspaper or not or whether you will like actually eat it you know

[Mainez]

if 1191 was addressed to Zeb, it kinda looks like pisskop is saying "hey you did catch me but you can't convince others that i am scum"

uh

pedit: do you actually like do that? the thing you suggested lol

[Mainez]

i only know that Aneninen is very different in newbie games (hahahahaha all those IC posts)

[Mainez]

i wanna talk to T S O cause we're like in the same boat

Aneninen can you like unvote since you're here, i don't want someone to quickhammer or something lol

[Mainez]

wow didn't expect you to do that...

[Mainez]

are you saying that Zeb is not screaming scum that strongly anymore based on the recent posts?
and i'm not ruling anyone out. except DrDolittle of course.

[Mainez]

the people on the Zeb wagon do look better than those on pisskop's...

must i really choose between the 2? gosh.

i wanna lynch Salamence lol

Bussing exists, you know.

who is bussing who

hey Zeb answer this

[Mainez]

We all know what happens if he makes it to lylo.

Yea lets lynch the JK whos dead tonight.

WHY ARE YOU VOTING ME?

VOTE: Mainez

cause i don't believe your claim. you're not exactly scumhunting either.

and stop screaming that you're a JK bleah.

and why are you voting me?

[Mainez]

Aneninen can you like unvote since you're here, i don't want someone to quickhammer or something lol

unvote

wow didn't expect you to do that...

Why wasn't Pisskop's unvote good enough for you?

do not like put words into my mouth lol.

i thought pisskop was dying to get Zeb lynched so of course i didn't expect pisskop to unvote.

[Mainez]

Sala lynch would make me pretty happy

Uh, Varsoon, evilpacman18, didn't Salamance claim a PR?

I think Salamence is L-1.

Intent to hammer

Yeah so Im a 2-shot Jailkeeper.

Lynch away.

it's the only reason I'm not voting him rn but it's sort of becoming a less and less compelling reason to not vote him

vote Salamence with me

[Mainez]

I wonder if we should just lynch Salamance and then, based on the flip, go for BBT (who was going to hammer Sala earlier) or continue elsewhere.
:/

yea go, vote Salamence with me

[Mainez]

i'm here...

[Mainez]

ok i'm willing to stop harping on getting Salamence lynched today lol

i'm kinda willing to vote Zeb too

what's he at now?

[Mainez]

i wanna talk to someone too lol after so much shit here for the past i don't know how long also, there's gonna be 2 days of silence lol

[Mainez]

ok i'm willing to stop harping on getting Salamence lynched today lol

i'm kinda willing to vote Zeb too

what's he at now?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: zeb

Sigh

P-Edit: and thats gonna stop mafia from offing me tonight?

this makes me feel uneasy alllll overrrr againnnn

[Mainez]

busy today
pls calm down as i'll only be back 12 hours later

[Mainez]

WHAT THE HELL

I TOLD YOU ALL TO CALM DOWN

IM GONE FOR 12 HOURS AND THIS HAPPENS

[Mainez]

YES

[Mainez]

Aneninen pls vomit whatever you can vomit

[Mainez]

gaaaaah i'm out of here

[Mainez]

i got nothing to say

i choose to keep my thoughts to myself until the next day

[Mainez]

VOTE: Salamence

it's about time this happened. no more excuses from anybody. you're getting lynched today.

[Mainez]

how am I even scummy?
you're scummy as hell and your claim was like fake so UGH SO DONE

day 2 was a mess but DAY 3 WILL BE BETTER

[Mainez]

yea i'm reading other players, i have my reads.

i'm pushing your lynch so hard cause i'm so damn sure i got the right guy.

[Mainez]

i agree with DrDolittle on massive.

but BBT may be scum too. either him or T S O.

[Mainez]

i'm reading everyone else as town

unsure about evilpacman

[Mainez]

no scum in the other neighbourhood?

[Mainez]

i'm just saying that since one neighbourhood had all town, it's more likely than not that there's a scum in the other neighbourhood.

why you getting so agitated.

[Mainez]

BBmolla, put your vote back where it belongs. we have time but we don't need that time.

he doesn't have a case on me, i basically caught scum in day 1, it's about time he gets lynched.

[Mainez]

this place is getting quiet

i kinda miss pisskop, i wonder if he is talking loads in the graveyard too

[Mainez]

@DrDolittle
are you seeing Salamence as scum?
i agree with massive but that'll be tomorrow's business

[Mainez]

^what does that even mean lol i laughed

[Mainez]

i've been wanting to for a reallllyyyyyy longggggg time

BBmolla's unvote makes me feel uneasy too lol like "maybe i can come up with a lame excuse that there's still time and maybe Salamence won't be lynched!" lol

Varsoon, who are you reading as scum?

[Mainez]

i do, i'm seeing him as scum too, either him or T S O

[Mainez]

it's probably a bad thing that i'm talking so openly about my reads right now
but i'm afraid something may happen tonight

lol

sad face

[Mainez]

BBmolla's unvote makes me feel uneasy too lol like "maybe i can come up with a lame excuse that there's still time and maybe Salamence won't be lynched!" lol

we have 12 days

you really just want to lynch him now?

yea

[Mainez]

actually i can wait. so let's keep it at L-1. though that irks me A LOT.

so ok let's talk more.

massive should appear.

[Mainez]

bbt i don't think you're scum like SCUM like Salamence level scum but i'm definitely putting you in the possible-as-scum-pile. however, your willingness to vote Salamence since d1 kind of earn you some town points from me lol.

i still say we go for Salamence today, like obviously.

then massive tomorrow while trying to find out the other scum.

[Mainez]

saying you may be scum and actually voting you is a whole different story

[Mainez]

the main part is that i don't like the way you approached the Anen lynch.

and you don't seem to be playing like in other games... well i haven't played with you before and i can't point out what exactly it is so you can say it's gut playing a role too but like there's a voice inside my head telling me i can't let my guard down on you.

i believe you're reading me as scum, why is that so?
i think you said i'm town earlier.

[Mainez]

that post looks crappy but i'm just being honest lol

[Mainez]

@T S O what's stopping you from voting Salamence? are you reading him as town?

[Mainez]

your insistence and demeanour on Anen being scum during d2 when i honestly couldn't see Anen-scum at all

p.s/ i'm on my phone now and whatsapp messages are coming in non-stop so i'm having a hard time loading and posting and everything

[Mainez]

cause i wasn't even around bloody hell lol i had time to come in the morning to say that i'll be busy for that day and when i was back 12 hours later, he got lynched..........

[Mainez]

can you answer my ques in 1581?

[Mainez]

ok why did you think that i'm scum?
also what's your read on T S O?

[Mainez]

ah ok i've never actually read my own ISO lol

anything you wanna talk about?

pedit: cool or coincidence that those 2 are my picks for scum too

[Mainez]

RC is kind of null leaning town for me, he hasn't really done much and i'm not paying much attention to him either. one thing that stands out for me is that when i played with RC in my 2nd game, he replaced in late and shot me down like a boss. RC doesn't seem to be very assertive here. but that being said, RC did replace in late in that game.

[Mainez]

Varsoon put your vote back on Salamence pls

[Mainez]

Salamence story is so funny i can't stop laughing

you guys believe it??? lol

[Mainez]

no it wasn't, but i agree i couldn't be 100% certain in d1 but now it has certainly transformed into "scum caught for sure"

[Mainez]

massive are you interested in voting Salamence?

[Mainez]

what a sly move.

ok when you get lynched and if i'm around for d4, i'll answer your question.

[Mainez]

yea for the benefit of town you know

let's lynch Salamence already can we

[Mainez]

no actually i have a feeling like i'll be killed tonight (saying this makes it even more likely that i'll die).

stop asking why i'm so confident you're scum. you're scum full stop.

i have 2 papers to take today and i'll think about whether i should say what i know.

urm since there's a confirmed town, DrDolittle, should i? lol you're the only person i can seek advice from lol

[Mainez]

ok i'll be back later, i need to shift my focus to my 2 papers i don't want to be writing your name on my paper

[Mainez]

evilpacman are you talking to me or salamence?

[Mainez]

actually i've decided to reveal what i know after my second paper. so that'll be 6 hours later...

meanwhile, Salamence can have fun panicking and acting like he's innocent.

[Mainez]

hiiiiii there friend!
i am about to write my fabulous story on the way home so stay tuned if you wanna be the first to read it!

[Mainez]

everyone must be asleep eh heh heh heh i just died from my paper but it's okay because i have some juicy news to share!

soooooo salamence claims to be a 2-shot jailkeeper but GUESS WHAT?
i'm a jailkeeper! ooooo bad choice dear scum.

what salamencethescumdotcom claimed he did in night one: jailkeep pisskop
what the real jailkeeper did: jailkeep T S O
what happened: no kill (interesting eh, i got a little excited)

what salamencethescumdotcom claimed he did in night two: jailkeep DrDolittle
what the real jailkeeper did: jailkeep Salamence
what happened: no kill (even more interesting eh???)

i'm too tired to add my thoughts and elaborate but if you are logical enough you know that salamence is scum and if you have a protective role, maybe you can protect me?? or who knows, i may pick the right person to jailkeep again how interestingggggggg

pedit: glad you're here my dear innocent child
pedit again: hi bbt you're here too!!!

[Mainez]

i knew you knew it lol

WELLLLLLLLLLLLL i have nothing to say with regards to that lol i'm not too good at this game my badddddd

[Mainez]

i didn't want to die too you know lol at least there were no kills for both nights

let's accept what we have and move onnnnnn

[Mainez]

how have i townfirmed you

[Mainez]

SHOULD I BE TALKING TO YOU LIKE THIS
WHAT IF YOU ARE SCUM
I AM LETTING MY GUARD DOWN

OOPS

[Mainez]

i can't figure out if T S O made the kill or was targeted. i was town reading T S O earlier but....

[Mainez]

i'm tempted to unvote so we can talk more. i do not want to find pisskop in the graveyard so soon.

pedit: i was town reading T S O when choosing my target ok basically i wrote this long essay-like crap full of vulgarities when trying to sort everyone else and do something useful LOL

[Mainez]

guys guys guys
who's salamences scummates that agreed to mislynch with the hopes that Sala's claim holds weight.

what's this though

[Mainez]

my logic must have worked then

[Mainez]

^what

[Mainez]

DrDolittle where are you
if i die tonight it means you're alive tomorrow so YOU'RE A VALUABLE ASSET

[Mainez]

if massive is scum... the other person will make the kill oooooooooo

much wifom going on

[Mainez]

cause dear salamencethescumdotcom claimed jk so of course the IC had to live! oooooooo

[Mainez]

Varsoon is dangerous. everyone in that neighbourhood is dangerous as hell.

[Mainez]

i feel like i'm on drugs, i'll check in here again later

[Mainez]

i'm gonna have a hard time in n3 wheeeeeeeeeeee

time to play games with scum

[Mainez]

interesting response.
who are your scum buds?

[Mainez]

you do not answer my question with another question

[Mainez]

o interesting move.
so who are your scumbuds?

[Mainez]

oh well looks like you're not revealing your scumbuds sad face

don't be so mean double sad face

[Mainez]

massive are you actually doubting my claim and asking me to explain my targets?

[Mainez]

i'm willing to explain my targets cause i'm pretty much dead tonight
i actually wrote an "essay" (just me YELLING VULGARITIES IN CAPS and trying to calm myself down) on both nights, they're on my laptop and i'm sleeping in like 10 minutes so i'll summarise them here.

basically, when salamence claimed jk, i wasn't 100% sure he's scum. at n1, i came up with scenarios on what fake-jk-salamence will do to survive the next day. and after much deliberation with myself, i figured that i leave DrDolittle alone (cause actually it's kind of expected of the jailkeeper to jailkeep the IC right) because scum will not kill DrDolittle or it will make salamence look really bad. i then labelled each player as town or scum or something, i can't remember what i labelled each person. but finally i was down to bbt and TSO and i was cursing even more now because both of them had 3 letters!!!! LOL. ok so i wrote a bunch of shit and chose TSO. i didn't jailkeep salamence cause i found it meaningless, it didn't occur to me that he'll make the kill. and as mentioned earlier, i wasn't 100% sure he was scum so yea i left him alone.

come to night 2, i was 100% sure salamence is scum after he stupidly claimed to jailkeep pisskop (which is uh plain weird) and pisskop flipped town so uh yea. furthermore, salamence was the one who casually hammered aneninen. i chose to jailkeep salamence because i was pretty sure he'll be making the kill and also claim to have jailkept DrDolittle because that's so reasonable and expected of a jailkeeper right?

i'm gonna sleep now. and i'm pretty sure the thread will be locked when i'm awake. i'm also pretty sure i won't survive the night so all the best town! i suggest looking at the vote counts from the start as well as salamence ISO. which actually, well, all town will do right lol. i'll take a last look at what i wanna look and post if there's anything i find noteworthy.

[Mainez]

oh hi you've appeared again!

i'm actually gonna sleep so i can't entertain you now but if you would like to reveal your scumbuds, you can do so.

[Mainez]

actually everyone else you all should start suspecting that i'm faking everything you know, like join salamence in saying i'm scum then maybe scum won't want to kill me cause i'll be tomorrow's lynch!!!!

lol kidding so not happening.

[Mainez]

you should stop screaming vulgarities, it makes me want to do so too...

[Mainez]

why do you want me to scream vulgarities now lol

goodnight i need sleep, still have a paper tomorrow bleah

[Mainez]

wow so much shit happened while i was asleep...

[Mainez]

Mainez are you a full jailkeeper?

yes

[Mainez]

i didn't want to claim but no one was listening in days 1 and 2. and i was unconfident that you guys will actually lynch salamence today, especially given that our dear IC voted for massive (and is now voting for me??? i need to go back and see)

[Mainez]

anyone who hammers is a scum claim

can you explain?

[Mainez]

wow i totally didn't expect this to happen when i decided to claim

[Mainez]

told what

[Mainez]

cool. but it's also true i'm inexperienced, i only have 2 completed games, both of which i was scum lol.

[Mainez]

i was kinda surprised to see that so i looked back at some games for the role distribution and it was indeed hard to find a town jailkeeper. however, BooneyToonz I had a town jailkeeper too and RC was the one.

i'm not going to use this as a form of defense cause it honestly doesn't really matter.
why do people not believe my claim though?

[Mainez]

o m g i'm so sad...

anyway i'm not sure i blocked scum in n1, TSO might have been the target. i did block scum in n2.

if i were to claim on d1, i would have died that night, that's something i really don't want to happen: for me to die.

[Mainez]

so you're admitting you're scum

[Mainez]

BBB was null
when TSO replaced in, he looked town and one that others will overlook and an easy kill for scum.

whether or not TSO is really town or was the one that made the kill is something we'll have to figure out.

[Mainez]

so you're admitting you're scum

Even the dumbest PR player knows when someone claims your role, you counterclaim them asap to get mafia.

Sure you die, but you got a mafia.

And that is why youre full of shit

fact is i stopped 2 kills (unless there's some other PR out there)
stop using the fact that i didn't counterclaim in d1 to get me lynched

[Mainez]

i decided to talk today because i was worried you wouldn't get lynched.
and whether or not you got lynched, i think scum will kill me tonight. i thought it was getting obvious that i was a jk cause i kept shouting how your claim is fake and that i do not believe your claim, i was even worried that i'll die in n2.

i had quite a bit of information so i decided to reveal everything in case i die with it.

[Mainez]

if i'm scum, i have absolutely no reason to set up some fake counterclaim and put my life on the line like this

i'm doing this cause i don't want to die with unsaid information that may be crucial for town.

[Mainez]

i really didn't expect this lol but i guess it's good, maybe i'll survive the night!

[Mainez]

part of the reason why i decided to claim is cause the IC wasn't following, yes. but no this is not a fakeclaim.

if you do not get lynched today, i'll die with unsaid information and no one will ever know you're scum.

[Mainez]

^we found our second scum

[Mainez]

DrDolittle do you still not believe me?

[Mainez]

omg i love you all so much thank you for ending my misery.

i can take my paper in peace now.

[Mainez]

oh right that's the 5th vote only..... zzzzzzzzzz my misery has not been ended

but i got a paper to take now, back in about 2 hours plus...

[Mainez]

done with my paper why is salamence still not hammered

[Mainez]

now now now i wonder who the third scum is

another thing i don't get is why varsoon will wanna do that, i mean like he didn't have to fake claim to try to get me lynched, he might have gotten away without suspicion (though he randomly jumping on to wagons already made me suspicious)

[Mainez]

i still don't get why varsoon will make such a move, a rather dumb move.

even if he succeeds in getting me lynched, 2 of them will be automatic scum.

weird.

[Mainez]

the fact that you're saying i'm not a jailkeeper cause you investigated me proves you're scum lol. all we need is someone to hammer salamence so we can move on.

pedit: what's cba

[Mainez]

hi massive, what do i have to do/tell/answer for you to vote Salamence?

i've also figured out that it's getting pointless to try to get DrDolittle to vote for Salamence, i have no idea why our dear IC believes i'm lying and that Salamence is telling the truth, much wow.

[Mainez]

VOTE: Mainez

Okay so I'm a rolecop and Mainez isn't a Jailkeeper.

This is serious?

he's the next scum, put your vote back where it belongs pls and thank you.

[Mainez]

i'm counting on BBmolla to hammer. BBmolla, if you're town, pls just hammer, then everything will be crystal-clear for town.

we got our second scum: Varsoon, so just lynch him the next day.

massive is looking less like scum. if there's only 1 scum in that neighbourhood, T S O is looking more and more like scum.

[Mainez]

just vote Salamence and the headache will be gone. well, unless you're scum, then you have greater things to worry about.

[Mainez]

Mainez can you confirm belonging to a neighbourhood?

no i don't belong to a neighbourhood

[Mainez]

why do you ask that?

[Mainez]

lol you're really trying very hard, i applaud you for that.

BBmolla, can you hammer so we can stop seeing him scream vulgarities like that, meaninglessly.

[Mainez]

can you explain?

[Mainez]

so you believe that i'm the scum and the other 2 are town? why?

[Mainez]

ok i'm gonna take this slow and easy to try to convince you to vote Salamence because apparently it's not obvious enough that i'm not lying. shoot your questions at me.

[Mainez]

the amount of bullshit Salamence is capable of is amazing

[Mainez]

dumb how your scumbud is willing to claim scum to try to save you lol, so tell me, who's the third one?

[Mainez]

they are smart town who are logically enough to understand the situation

and your defense of scum not killing in n1 is so bullshit i can't even. like what, scum decided to play town? lol

[Mainez]

thanks pro, you know it all.

everything.

e v e r y t h i n g.

why?

because you're scum wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Mainez]

Varsoon claiming Rolecop to save his buddy from being lynched in non LYLO?

Hahahahahahahaha

good one guys

i don't get Varsoon too, dumb move in my opinion.

Like even if they are scum, who fucking cares, if we lynch Mainez we literally get two free scum.

But I think Mainez being scum makes most sense here

everyone cares, at least town does. you do not lynch your jailkeeper. your jailkeeper that stopped 2 kills too.
if we lynch Salamence, we get 1 scum down already. oh god.

why does it make the most sense for me to be scum?

(you don't happen to be the third scum right...)

[Mainez]

thank you BBT.

[Mainez]

wow cool story bro, now i'm in a neighbourhood.

and cool, now there's a redirector.

and even cooler, "we should probably lynch Sala"

the coolest of all, "gambits or some shit"

applaud for the wonderful story.

[Mainez]

waiting for my neighbour aka thethirdscum to appear trololol

[Mainez]

Spoiler: some stuff

also, i feel like Salamence's claim is fake...

question: what does a normal set up look like? it's my first normal game. can it have anything and everything from the list of normal roles?

i still suggest we go with a Salamence lynch

i stand by my view that Salamence's claim is fake.

does looking at completed normal games help me understand the set up of normal games better? i looked at a few and they all seem rather different. but i kinda get a general feel.

omg BBmolla just like spammed the shit out of this, i'll read later and make sense out of it

i also need a vc soon lol

and i still wanna lynch salamence

WHY IS NOBODY VOTING SALAMENCE

can we lynch Salamence, he's like so bad you know, so so bad

the people on the Zeb wagon do look better than those on pisskop's...

must i really choose between the 2? gosh.

i wanna lynch Salamence lol

We all know what happens if he makes it to lylo.

Yea lets lynch the JK whos dead tonight.

WHY ARE YOU VOTING ME?

VOTE: Mainez

cause i don't believe your claim. you're not exactly scumhunting either.

and stop screaming that you're a JK bleah.

and why are you voting me?

the above quotes is me in d1 reacting to salemence's jk claim and how i felt about it, and how i was insisting on wanting to get him lynched while trying to not let scum know i'm a jk.

i have absolutely no reason to plan this shit from d1 to only claim at d3 after letting salamence use his "2 shots".

i admit i'm not a good player. truth is, i'm new and i'm still learning. i didn't know how to deal with having some scum claiming my role so early in the game. i tried to do what i can, and thank god i stopped the 2 kills.

i'm not very good with posting a case or shouting vulgarities in caps like Salamence, or coming up with some fantastic story like Varsoon.

but pls just take a moment, and think about it.
do you all really think what Salamence have claimed to do and he's theory behind it to be reasonable?
do you all really believe Varsoon after all the shit he has been posting. there's too many loopholes in Varsoon's claim. and i still find it dumb why he decided to claim scum at such a stage. but you know what, it looks like it's working for him. he has succeeded in making town confused.

if i ever get lynched today, pls just go after salamence and varsoon.

i'm still gonna fight hard to get salamence lynched today, and everything will be crystal clear for the town.

[Mainez]

if you lynch me today, you are effectively lynching your jailkeeper and keeping 2 scums alive like that.

if you lynch salamence, you get to keep your jailkeeper who will hopefully do some magic at night to survive. and get a free lynch on varsoon the next day.