Mini 1698: MDCXCVIII [C'est fini!]

[Titus]

So the mod has confirmed it is possible for both Spicer and boon to tell the truth.

Dom, did you revoke your vig claim?

[pisskop]

why is it so absolute? this isnt a 1v1 situation.

boons errattic posting is noteable. Does he do that as scum?

[dragonspawn]

Why do I have to make a call between two townreads when the day barely started?

[implosion]

I really fucking want to pull out my intestines over this right now

because my gut is actually telling me now that spicer is more likely scum than boon and I really don't like that.

I have a bullshit theory. That theory is that spicer is scum, and the mafia consist of bulb + spicer-gunsmith + x-doctor. Why would that make sense? Two reasons. One, the scum having a doctor seems likely in the event that boon is town. Two, more irrespective of boon's alignment: bulb's role. It's a weird role, isn't it? It's very unique but it doesn't really add anything to the game in particular... unless... both other scum have power roles. If all three scum have night actions, then melding the watcher action into the scum's kill allows them to do all three at once.

That theory has one gaping hole in it and that hole has an easy fix.

The hole is that it would require a massive amount of town power, which hasn't been claimed (2-shot vig + 1-shot backup vig + rolecop is not nearly enough).
The fix is a full massclaim.

I want a full massclaim. There aren't many downsides any more, a lot of information has been revealed already, plenty enough for the scum to make an informed nightkill.

Can we please full massclaim?

[spicer1209]

So the mod has confirmed it is possible for both Spicer and boon to tell the truth.

Dom, did you revoke your vig claim?

I didnt see it in the thread. They should post in thread

[implosion]

like essentially i think we need to setup spec hard right now and I don't think we can do enough without a full massclaim.

[spicer1209]

Im down for a full massclaim.

[implosion]

Nvm what I said at the start of the day. VOTE: spicer

I assume Titus was referring to this, which was ambiguous.

[spicer1209]

I dont see how I am being scummy. Boon is flailing all over the place and I know I am right. I dont know how else to play this other than hammering it home. If you find that scummy then that is shitty.

[TheDominator37]

What is going on with this boom wagon! Stop it. Stop it now.

[spicer1209]

Im getting frustrated and its starting to bug me.

[Titus]

So the mod has confirmed it is possible for both Spicer and boon to tell the truth.

Dom, did you revoke your vig claim?

Nvm what I said at the start of the day. VOTE: spicer

I assume Titus was referring to this, which was ambiguous.

What is going on with this boom wagon! Stop it. Stop it now.

Please answer Dom.

[Boonskiies]

why is it so absolute? this isnt a 1v1 situation.

boons errattic posting is noteable. Does he do that as scum?

OMG, have I never been ScumBoon in a game with you? LOLOLLOLOL. I'm super frantic as town. Titus should be able to confirm that. I played a f2f game with Titus, where I had to be mute. I was SUPER FRANTIC there.

[Boonskiies]

My scum games are different every time I roll scum, I believe. But apparently, BlueBloodedToffee knows exactly when I'm scum...I can't do like anything if he's in a game where I'm scum, haha. So I do have tells, I guess.

[Boonskiies]

When I'm town, he knows it too. I guess I do certain things as each alignment.

[Boonskiies]

Anywhosies, I don't see myself as flailing. I really don't. What am I supposed to do? I'm being tunnelfucked because my role does indeed have a gun. What am I supposed to say?

[Boonskiies]

Also, do you guys realize how early I auto cleared Dom/Implosion due to interactions with a scum member? As scum, what possible incentive would I have from doing that...AND THEN NOT KILL EITHER OF THEM!

[Boonskiies]

I don't think bulb would be doing that to Dom if they were scum buddies. I see why the possibility of a new player getting angry at a bus from a partner is there, but I don't know. I've never seen that happen. Something was off. He was gone most of the day, and as soon as Bulb starts getting a wagon, he shows up.

I am bound to think that Implosion is now town, based off the Bulb lynch. Implosion more than anyone based on the way he interacted with Bulb just doesn't make sense as Scum v Scum.

Look how long ago I pretty much confirmed these two as town. And my reads followed through with them throughout, even up til now. SCUM WOULDN'T DO THAT AND THEN KILL ANNA FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.

[Titus]

why is it so absolute? this isnt a 1v1 situation.

boons errattic posting is noteable. Does he do that as scum?

OMG, have I never been ScumBoon in a game with you? LOLOLLOLOL. I'm super frantic as town. Titus should be able to confirm that. I played a f2f game with Titus, where I had to be mute. I was SUPER FRANTIC there.

I don't consider f2f relevant in forum scumhunting and I'm generally blitzed when doing f2f.

[Boonskiies]

Speaking of Anna, here was one of his early reads list.

my reads aren't really a list anymore, it's more like two separate pools:

people I don't want to lynch:
GrayFox
WoodyWoodpecker
Boonskiies
implosion

people I would accept a lynch on, in somewhat of an order:
KK
dragonspawn
pisskop
spicer
Dom

DS/PK/Spicer are all on he list that he would have accepted a lynch from.

[Boonskiies]

why is it so absolute? this isnt a 1v1 situation.

boons errattic posting is noteable. Does he do that as scum?

OMG, have I never been ScumBoon in a game with you? LOLOLLOLOL. I'm super frantic as town. Titus should be able to confirm that. I played a f2f game with Titus, where I had to be mute. I was SUPER FRANTIC there.

I don't consider f2f relevant in forum scumhunting and I'm generally blitzed when doing f2f.

I was just doing one example...you've played with me enough on forums to know my frantic attitude as town...

[Titus]

UNVOTE:

You're probably playing me, but I got a busier couple of days coming up.

[Boonskiies]

mafia watcher variant
- gunsmith
xxxxx or goon

Vigilante
Back up 1s vig
role cop
xxxx or vt
xxxx or vt
vt
vt
vt
vt
vt

-OR-

mafia watcher variant
xxxxx
xxxxx

Vigilante
Back up 1s vig
role cop
gunsmith
xxxxx or vt
vt
vt
vt
vt
vt

I'm going to quote this again. Because these are the absolute potential setups we're looking at.

[spicer1209]

:

*facepalm

this is ridiculous.

Ok guys since no one wants to go with the confirmed gun result where would you guys like to start?

[TheDominator37]

So the mod has confirmed it is possible for both Spicer and boon to tell the truth.

Dom, did you revoke your vig claim?

No i am the vig