Mini 1699 - #swag wars: THE empire strikes back (swaggedout)

pieguyn · Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:17 am

k

we're lynching Boon today

pieguyn · Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:18 am

ftr this is the third time I can think of this game that notsci has walked in here and blatantly postured to join the leading wagon.

DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE THE PROBLEM HERE?

Empire · Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:18 am

DAY 2, VOTECOUNT 16

Nachomamma8 (3)

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Wickedestjr, implosion, Boonskiies

Boonskiies (2)

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Nachomamma8, pieguyn

Vinkah (1)

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RedCoyote

RedCoyote (1)

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Soft-spoken

Not Voting (4)

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Tammy, notscience, fferyllt, Vinkah

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch! Deadline is on August 13th at 3AM EST or in (expired on 2015-08-13 03:03:09).

Mod Notes - Wickedestjr is V/LA from the 8th to the 12th.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:19 am

I'd actually really rather not lynch Boon, sorry.

pieguyn · Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:21 am

remind me who you want to lynch again

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:23 am

In post 1328, pieguyn wrote:So, why is it such a problem that ... surprise ... I don't have any strong scum reads? Just because I'm not death tunneling someone or making any particularly strong push anywhere doesn't mean I'm not forming reads or that I don't have reads.

I think that I mentioned that your play this game was pretty understandable based on the game state, but I don't think it's weird for me to express flashes of paranoia on you based on your play being lacking even if it's understandable; it's not like I'm launching into a huge push on you for not matching a pattern or anything along those lines.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:27 am

In post 1328, pieguyn wrote:There's also the fact that, outside of you apparently thinking I'm scum, the people I *am* POE'ing as scum are the same as yours. Why is it that I'm supposedly playing such an "uncharacteristically weak" game here if I'm in the same fucking position you are? I don't understand at all how you can have the exact same reads I have and then claim that I'm not playing well for ... reasons.

"Uncharacteristically weak" for you refers to more your ability to be correctly read as town by most of the playerlist through your thought processes, not through your reads. I am very rarely a universal townread in games here unless something really weird happens but for you it's more strange for you not to be a universal townread by late day 1. Do you disagree?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:29 am

In post 1328, pieguyn wrote:Do you think I *couldn't* push anyone if I was scum here?

No, I do, and I think it's probably more likely that you step in the power vacuum and take control as scum since it's something people are expecting out of you and it wouldn't be hard for people to sheep you out of desperation since most people are just looking for anything to follow at this point.

pieguyn · Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:53 am

In post 1430, Nachomamma8 wrote:I think that I mentioned that your play this game was pretty understandable based on the game state, but I don't think it's weird for me to express flashes of paranoia on you based on your play being lacking even if it's understandable; it's not like I'm launching into a huge push on you for not matching a pattern or anything along those lines.

I don't actually remember you saying this (and couldn't find it after looking through your ISO again). link?

In post 1431, Nachomamma8 wrote:"Uncharacteristically weak" for you refers to more your ability to be correctly read as town by most of the playerlist through your thought processes, not through your reads. I am very rarely a universal townread in games here unless something really weird happens but for you it's more strange for you not to be a universal townread by late day 1. Do you disagree?

it's true that I tend to get consensus town read a lot, but I think there are more games than you think there are where I'm widely suspected or at the very least not consensus town read. as just the most recent example, I was hardly a "consensus town read" in Forest Fire until D2 happened and I had more of a chance to get invested in the game.

I'm not really sure how to respond to this bc I don't think it's correct to judge me based on "how town read I am" as opposed to looking at what I've actually done in the game and I'm not sure where you would have got that impression. either way, it's a moot point now.

pieguyn · Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:56 am

o god, I just now got what you meant with first post.

<.<

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notscience · Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:41 am

In post 1426, pieguyn wrote:ftr this is the third time I can think of this game that notsci has walked in here and blatantly postured to join the leading wagon.

DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE THE PROBLEM HERE?

That you're scumreading me and not pushing me and insisting on giving me space so I make it to lylo so you can push me?

notscience · Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:47 am

That you keep giving me space so I can town it up and when I don't town it up there are no repercussions except you posturing about me?

pieguyn · Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:36 am

^awful posts

I think it's pretty fucking obvious Boon is my top scum read and he's my second scum read.

notscience · Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:37 am

This is also an awful post.

notscience · Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:38 am

Are you going to deflect by calling it awful too?

Or just do that to this post?

fferyllt · Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:38 am

fferyllt · Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:40 am

Nacho:

In post 1429, pieguyn wrote:remind me who you want to lynch again

I'd like to know this too.

notscience · Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:45 am

I don't want to lynch ffery or nacho.

Probably not tammy.

They don't want to lynch S-S so okay.

They don't want to lynch RC so ...

I don't think they want to lynch pie.

Nacho doesn't want to lynch boon.

Vinkah, or wicked.

fferyllt · Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:48 am

Did you pick up on the meta reasons why S-S's entrance wasn't alignment indicative?

notscience · Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:54 am

I'm looking back and the only thing I saw was where nacho said it wasn't.

notscience · Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:58 am

The thing about keeping people off balance?

implosion · Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:12 pm

If you don't then how can we rule out an SK? Just shoot notscience. Tell them I made you do it.

I don't see how me shooting rules me out as an SK.

Pie's play has over time since day one felt more town to me. I think she's a decently solid townread now.

At this point I still prefer either Nacho of people that have votes. I won't be that mad if Boon gets lynched, though I think he's probably town.

fferyllt · Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:28 pm

In post 1445, notscience wrote:The thing about keeping people off balance?

Start reading at 961 through the next 5-10 posts. That's where I asked him if he was done with his scummy entrance thing.

In 1016 touched on the fact that I had a meta expectation that he'd start with a scummy looking entrance and then read players based on how they reacted.

Wickedestjr · Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:41 pm

In post 1356, Boonskiies wrote:Soft-spoken and Pie are also town.

I'd say Nacho/notscience are the scum team. Did a scum flip on Day 1?

Seriously?

Wickedestjr · Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:43 pm

In post 1412, RedCoyote wrote:
In post 1340, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1311, RedCoyote wrote:
In post 1310, implosion wrote:It's potentially notable that Nacho was the third spot on both my wagon and the eventual Anen lynch wagon.

Agreed.

Why?

Why is it notable? Because you keep moving your vote.

In post 1341, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1312, RedCoyote wrote:you said I wasn't reading you, which is a cryptic way of implying that you had soft-claimed prior to that post.

And what makes you say that?

That was my interpretation of it. Let me put it another way, if ns was really just "reaction testing", why wasn't he blunt about that after the test was over? Why did he wait until after a vig claimed to be straight about it? What did he even gain from this so-called "reaction test"? These are the questions I am asking.

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In post 1346, Soft-spoken wrote:when RC and notsci are interacting it feels like tvs, but that might just be me confbiasing

big whoop, you're townreading everyone except me anyway

SS 1346 wrote:P edit 2. i was thinking the same thing nacho. if hes SK we have him by the balls already. if hes not then we save ourselves a PR lynch.

This "use the SK to our advantage" crap always ends up backfiring.

RC, how does using SK to our advantage "always backfire" ?