Mini 1675 ~ Choose Your Side (Game Over)

[Klingoncelt]

Lets skip the random stages, if anybody legitimately in the case of the game has hair dye, some keys, or owns a horrifying man eating monster, please let me know.

I have none of the above.

[Klingoncelt]

I AM GROOT

I'm MEWTHREE

It's gonna be a long game, folks.

[Klingoncelt]

VOTE: Oversoul

Since im pretty sure you're ALL scum, we'll start with the liar.

VOTE: massive

You're always Scum, aren't you?

[Klingoncelt]

2 groots a if you can only say "I am groot"

i am groot i am groot

So 2 for Yes, and 1 for No.

It's a start.

Are you allowed to vote?

[Klingoncelt]

[Klingoncelt]

Vote Count III:

CooLDoG (2) ~ miss, Oversoul

Okay for a while now my vote on CoolDoG hasn't counted so I'm going to assume it's part of the game. If anyone has information regarding this it would be great to come forward.

"Miss?" How does a vote "miss?"

I would guess it was a vote stealer, but the "miss" thing, could there be some restriction on whom you're allowed to vote for? Or is CoolDog somehow immune to your vote maybe?

[Klingoncelt]

Weird, isn't it.

[Klingoncelt]

Well, we know what Skold's fake name is, at least.

[Klingoncelt]

Hey guys, if I said I'm scum and cats are third-party what would you say?

I'd say VOTE: wgeurts.

[Klingoncelt]

I don't like the way his name is displayed in the vote count. UNVOTE:

I feel like he has some crazy role about predicting the lunch using a faked failvote or something

VOTE: could represent the Roman numeral 5. That's how many votes he had at that point.

UNVOTE:

Nachomamma

- Is wgeurts a bomb or something? 2 groots yes, 1 groot no.

[Klingoncelt]

Also, Nacho, you need names to fill in the blanks:

CooLDoG
diginova
Jeanne11
Klingoncelt
Maruchan
massive
McMenno
MewThree
Nachomamma8
Oversoul
Plotinus
miss (Skold)
wgeurts

[Klingoncelt]

Cool.

[Klingoncelt]

And does it matter wether you think I'm mafia or jester?
No.
I'm getting lynched and I'll win.
Whatever you think I am.

Do you win if you're NK'd?

If no, please someone shoot him tonight.

[Klingoncelt]

Kling god damn vote me.

Never!

[Klingoncelt]

VOTE: Jeanne11[/vote ] finally people are seeing the light. like she seems to be post restricted or something too (or maybe she always posts gibberish? it’s hard to tell with her) but unlike nacho she’s not trying to communicate or scumhunt or do anything at all.

This.

VOTE: Jeanne11

[Klingoncelt]

* VOTE: Jeanne11

[Klingoncelt]

Oh, too late.

UNVOTE: then.

So let me get this straight - we're supposed to lynch McMenno because he's a crappy player?

[Klingoncelt]

No, McMenno, don't.

[Klingoncelt]

VOTE: massive this is still a good idea, why is nobody else continuing this?

Why the fuck is he on fire?

VOTE: massive

[Klingoncelt]

I have a hunch
VOTE: Klingon

Let me go chew some tabaccy first

I didn't torch the crazy fuck.

Here, eat this delicious brownie instead.

[Klingoncelt]

-Like, seriously, massive is on FIRE. Why would you even vote for someone in that kind of situation.

Can we use him to make s'mores?

[Klingoncelt]

I'll be back later tonight.

[Klingoncelt]

@UshiromiyaAnge - Why was the deadline moved up from the 17th to the 18th?

[Klingoncelt]

I AM GROOT

Hey, Nacho.

2 for yes, 1 for no.

Were you role-connected to Jeanne11?

[Klingoncelt]

@Klingon we tried to lynch massive but then...combustion. Have you not been reading?

Yeah, didn't I ask about making s'mores?

[Klingoncelt]

Klingoncelt feels like she's always about thirty posts behind whenever she posts. This seems less scummy in this game than in most, since it means she feels she can afford to be lax about reading. It MIGHT mean she has a scumbuddy, but I think it's more likely that she feels confident relying on the town in general.

Not exactly.

I come on here later in the day and overnight, when all of you are asleep.

You day people post around 10am to 6pm eastern, mostly.

[Klingoncelt]

Klingoncelt feels like she's always about thirty posts behind whenever she posts. This seems less scummy in this game than in most, since it means she feels she can afford to be lax about reading. It MIGHT mean she has a scumbuddy, but I think it's more likely that she feels confident relying on the town in general.

Not exactly.

So, I should be scumreading you then?

Nice way to take my reply too far out of context. Here's what really happened:

Post #516
In post 514, massive wrote:
Klingoncelt feels like she's always about thirty posts behind whenever she posts. This seems less scummy in this game than in most, since it means she feels she can afford to be lax about reading. It MIGHT mean she has a scumbuddy, but I think it's more likely that she feels confident relying on the town in general.


Klingon replied:
Not exactly.

I come on here later in the day and overnight, when all of you are asleep.

You day people post around 10am to 6pm eastern, mostly.

VOTE: massive

[Klingoncelt]

@Klingon: massive is on fire and votes for him don’t count. Some people have tried voting him but it doesn’t show up on the vote counts. Join us on cooldog instead. We can try to do massive toMorrow if you want, infinite shot lynchproof is broken so he has to run out of shots eventually.

I'll ISO CoolDog... Give me a minute...

[Klingoncelt]

UNVOTE:

Plotinus, I'm not seeing where CD is Scum.

I'm more concerned with Oversoul, I think he's PR hunting.

plus 30, 38, 46,

doesn't explain any of his votes other than CoolDog, but questions why some one is voting Plotinus 24, 119, 275, 362, 398, 426, 486

VOTE: Oversoul

[Klingoncelt]

Proper punctuation and grammar will help your case!

Well then, I guess we're doomed.
At least

there are no tildes or diacritical marks in any posts by players in this game, ignoring quotes from the moderators.

y

Nacho's right. Diginova's 497 is chock full o' crap.

[Klingoncelt]

I'm dead tired and have to crash.

See you guys late tonight.

[Klingoncelt]

miss

Groot?

It's what the Mod renamed Skold. No reason was given.

[Klingoncelt]

lynch

miss

o

r

skold

Groot?

Interesting.

[Klingoncelt]

@Mod - If we vote for Skold, will it count, or do we have to vote for "miss" for the vote to count?

[Klingoncelt]

I really like where my vote is.

[Klingoncelt]

I mean, if plont flips scum I will be the first one on the oversoul wagon tomorrow, but right now it seems that the attacks on him are from inability, NOT scum motivation.

Why would a Townie do so much PR hunting?

[Klingoncelt]

Happy Scumday, Massive!

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I mean, if plont flips scum I will be the first one on the oversoul wagon tomorrow, but right now it seems that the attacks on him are from inability, NOT scum motivation.

Why would a Townie do so much PR hunting?

because I am a lazy fuck what posts are you referring to? If it is 30 you are wrong.

I'm talking about Oversoul's PR hunting.

[Klingoncelt]

Who the heck did my votr move to?

The mod hydra.

[Klingoncelt]

Plot's great big long post 678:

The thing I don’t understand: there’s presumably a lot of third parties in this game. 3rd parties are by definition by themselves. 3rd parties are similar to townies in this sense because townies feel alone too, town has strength in numbers but we don’t know who our fellow townies are, so we’re lonely too. the only people who have any reason to be resisting certain wagons are people who aren’t lonely, people who are mafia and have scumbuddies. the rest of us, we can resist a wagon on our townreads but we can make a towncase for our townreads instead of the “yeah he’s nullscum but i don’t want to lynch him because then i’ll be lonely” perspective that the mafia has about their buddies.

so why are we all sitting around here at the deadline voting for peanut butter if most of us are town or otherwise people who don’t have a vested interest in keeping a buddy alive?


somewhat unrelatedly, i have a theory about why everybody is lurking but it makes me sad and i’m not sure whether sharing it is protown or antitown. but i think it might be protown because it applies to everybody equally. In this game, we all picked our flavour name based on something that we like, presumably. and I think the mods have done fantastic with the role pms this game and we’re all really excited to have the best role pm ever. and what do you do when you have the best role pm ever? you try to avoid sticking your neck out too far so that you can savour the best role pm ever a little bit longer. i have been doing this too i’ve felt like i’m lurking a lot this game it’s just everyone else has been better at lurking than me.

But the thing is, by lurking the game away, we don’t get to savour the experience of having the best role pm ever, it becomes like that really pretty candle that you bought and it was too pretty to light it so you just left it sitting around until one summer it was too hot and it just melted on its own. It’s like having a cake that’s too pretty to eat so you don’t and then it gets mouldy. And since everyone is doing it, it’s not even achieving its purpose. That only works when you’re the only one in the game with the best role pm ever. when it’s true of everyone, it doesn’t matter.

At pride they gave us little paper rainbow flags on sticks and I played with mine so much that it broke and then I got another and I played with it so much that it broke too but it was better than not playing with it.

Isn't this the game where Town outnumbers Scum, but there are only 2 guaranteed Scum and a promised up to 8 3rd Parties?

[Klingoncelt]

re 694

yes. but in Elemental Mafia after we finished lynching the mafia and we were looking for the 3rd party (an SK) people suddenly started looking at the people who looked like townies and I didn’t understand why and they explained it to me that 3rd parties can blend in with the town easily because they don’t have buddies to have associative tells with.

So why shouldn’t the third parties be doing that in this game too? why shouldn’t they be trying to help us lynch mafia? some of them can probably win with the town because 8 is a lot so there are probably lots of different types, and they want to avoid being nightkilled by scum probably so getting rid of scum works for them. and yet we’re all voting peanut butter instead of consolidating and i don’t understand why.

I think the setup is intimidating the players.

Here, maybe this will help:

HEY! 3RD PARTIES! JUST PRETEND YOU'RE TOWN!

Maybe that'll work.

[Klingoncelt]

Deadline approaches...

VOTE: Skold

[Klingoncelt]

Shit, that was the hammer, wasn't it?

Sorry, I missed CoolDog's vote.

Skold/Miss, got anything to say?

[Klingoncelt]

Massive did you get any interesting night thingies happen to you?

Interesting question.

I have a similar one... Ozgin, did anything happen to you last night?

[Klingoncelt]

Massive did you get any interesting night thingies happen to you?

Interesting question.

I have a similar one... Ozgin, did anything happen to you last night?

No, and I know nothing interesting happened to you except for one thing >_>

Make that 2 things:

Whatever you know about "one thing"

and the PM I got that said I targeted you. That was really interesting.

So what's that "one thing" that you know of?

[Klingoncelt]

Oh,

@Mod

- I counted 3 rules infractions for wgeurts, (posts 484, 486, and 489) is that number correct?

[Klingoncelt]

I have no 486

Sorry, wgeurts. My mistake.

486 is Oversoul's.

[Klingoncelt]

Also what's up with ozgin's sig?

He's had it for a while.

[Klingoncelt]

wgeurts - Open your kimono to me. Tell me all. Be open.

Klingon - You visited me of my volition. I made you notice me, senpai~

Oh. I was wondering why I targeted you when I didn't target you. Did I find out anything?

[Klingoncelt]

So... 4 dead Mafia so far. That means there are at least 5 Town. No more than 4 3rd Parties, 1 of whom is dead. (What I wouldn't give to see that Dead Thread.)

I'll be back late tonight after everyone here goes to bed and the place quiets down. I need to study this game more.

[Klingoncelt]

Mod: What does ineligible player mean?

It means they got modkilled.

[Klingoncelt]

Some wonky shit is going on

You're just now noticing that? It's been going on for a while.

[Klingoncelt]

Oversoul, you're voting a modkilled player. Why not vote a real player, like massive? Where'd your conviction for that go?

I want to see if there is some sneaky shit going on with Wgeurts. I don't know why Wgeurts is still a player on the alive list, yet Plot and others were added to the dead list.

Is Wgeurts a Ghost?

[Klingoncelt]

There are no photos of cats or kittens in any posts by players in this game.

Acknowledged. The red truth is effective, although it makes for a much more disappointing game.

No teh cuteness kittehs?

[Klingoncelt]

VOTE: Diginova

Why r u so interested in cats, hmm?

[Klingoncelt]

Oversoul didn't visit anyone, so that clears Oversoul and Klingon fmpov. Who's left?

Nachomamma8, diginova, CooLDoG, you.

[Klingoncelt]

I have an idea.

Give me a bit, I type slowly.

[Klingoncelt]

Okay, according to the game layout, there is at least 1 more Townie than Mafia.

There are any number of Neutrals. Neutrals might win with Town, with Mafia, or solo.

We have 4 dead

Mafia

:

Jeanne11
MewThree
Plotinus
wgeurts

That means there are 5 or 6

Townies.

Dead

massive

and

4, maybe 5 living Town

There are 6 alive in the game. None can be Mafia, the math doesn't support it.

There are definitely 4 Townies, the remaining 2 can't be 1 Mafia and 1 Town because I'm a

Neutral

.

Don't worry, I'm benign.

I have no kill powers, no roleblock powers, no protect powers.

According to my role PM I'm supposed to have certain investigative powers, however I never received them.

I'm a solo winner, however without my powers, winning is 100% impossible for me.



So... who is Living Player Number 6? Another Townie? Or an evil neutral?

Well, someone died last night, my guess is that it wasn't a Vig that killed Maruchan.

We need to find the Evil Neutral.

[Klingoncelt]

I think we should probably mass claim now.

I'm Miss Marple, benign solo Neutral.

[Klingoncelt]

You can't possibly be Scum.

[Klingoncelt]

I'm a solo winner, however without my powers, winning is 100% impossible for me.

I mean, part of me thinks that tomorrow we might need to lynch this because otherwise the town can't win. Unless we go for a draw, right?

@mod, what happens in the case of a solo winning 3rd party and a town player as the only two survivors?

No.

If I live until endgame I lose. There's no chance of my winning - I'm supposed to guess the role names and abilities of each player. I'm supposed to guess who killed each of the dead players. My guess for Massive was self-immolating Tibetan monk, so...

[Klingoncelt]

Someone has to be an SK or something and that is why the game hasn't ended

Someone has to be an SK or something and that is why the game hasn't ended

obviously.

Not necessarily.

Give me a few, I'm very hungry and dinner's getting cold.

[Klingoncelt]

Oh, I almost forgot -

Happy Birthday, CoolDog!

[Klingoncelt]

CoolDog's post 645:

"

... semi-bastard games have had triggers for lynching the mod, just throwing that out there as a potential. However, it sometimes has the bad consequence of losing a lynch, so maybe not worth the risk to try it.
Actually, no, fuck that, this game is not a screwball bastard, let's not lynch the mod.

"

I think he's wrong. I think this is a screwball bastard game.

VOTE: UshiromiyaAnge


That said, I still want everyone to claim.

[Klingoncelt]

What we have so far (from my crappy notes):

1) CooLDoG, Bob The Builder. Can set deadline to 72 hours, also is roleblock blocker. 1 Rules Infraction (710)
2) diginova, Lady Lambdadelta, Town Moderator. Compulsive rule poster, Can be modkilled with 1 rule infraction
3) Klingoncelt - Miss Marple. Modified Detective.
4) Ozgin/(McMenno), PewDiePie, Internet Millionare. Modified Watcher, Double Voter.1 Rules Infraction (480)

5) Nachomamma8

*6) Oversoul - Mask Salesman. Vote-Restricted Modified Inventor. 1 Rules Infraction (486)

Nacho hasn't been heard from in 4 days, it's prod time.

@Nacho -

please claim.

We know you're Groot and you're post-restricted. Tell us the rest.

[Klingoncelt]

Unless Groot is a killer, we are at endgame and Town has almost won.

We should lynch the Mod, I think that's what's holding us back. I think UshiromiyaAnge has been doing the killing all along.

[Klingoncelt]

If they break rules, they're modkilled. It would be too easy to figure that out as all action happens in-thread during the Day.

Rule 15 is fairly common, btw, I first saw it a year ago in one of Wake's games.

Lynch the Mod.

[Klingoncelt]

We're at Endgame now.

There are no Scum left, just 4 Town and 2 benign Neutrals.

[Klingoncelt]

Explain to me exactly why there is no way that there can be one more mafioso? Or how about a malignant neutral?

There is 1 more Townie than Mafioso.

There are 4 dead Mafia, so there has to be 5 Townies.

One of those Townies is dead. That means Town has 4 living members.

There are 6 players alive.

For 1 to be Mafia, that means there would be 5 living Townies. A total of 6 players.

I am a

Neutral

.

That means there are 4 Town, 1 Neutral, and you, the

Unknown

.

You cannot possibly be Scum, there aren't enough Townies to support that. You're either Town or Neutral.

[Klingoncelt]

Well what if one of those town are a malignant neutral?

Nope, there's no evil 3rd Party. Not enough NKs to support that theory.

[Klingoncelt]

Shit.

[Klingoncelt]

So where are we:

I'm Miss Marple, benign Neutral, I can't kill, block, or investigate and I can't win.

Diginova claims Lady Lambdadelta, Town Moderator. Compulsive rule poster, Can be modkilled with 1 rule infraction

Oversoul claims Mask Salesman. Vote-Restricted Modified Inventor. 1 Rules Infraction (486)

CooLDoG claims Bob The Builder. Can set deadline to 72 hours, also is roleblock blocker. 1 Rules Infraction (710)

Nachomamma8 claims vote-restricted. Alignment unknown.

[Klingoncelt]

Diginova, Oversoul, CooLDoG:

Do you know your alignments?

[Klingoncelt]

Oversoul & CoolDog, what are your alignments?

[Klingoncelt]

So... CoolDog... I'm going to ISO him real quick.

Okay, he doesn't say directly that he is Town. He does strongly hint at it.

[Klingoncelt]

I'm Benign Neutral, I can't kill, block, or investigate and I can't win.

Diginova and Oversoul claim Town.

CooLDoG strongly hints at Town.

Nachomamma8 claims Alignment Unknown.

It looks like Nacho's our lynch choice.

I hate that, I kinda liked poor little Groot.

Bye, Groot.

VOTE: Nachomamma8

[Klingoncelt]

I can help Town win.

Sorry, groot, but you're the most likely killer here.

If you aren't Scum, then we lynch Cool Dog.

You two are the only ones that didn't claim alignment.

[Klingoncelt]

Digi, CoolDog, one of you vote for Nacho, please.

[Klingoncelt]

Diginova, Oversoul, CooLDoG:

Do you know your alignments?

Yes, I am a "Town Builder" I win with the "town". My role has green text.

Okay, he doesn't say directly that he is Town. He does strongly hint at it.

No shit. I'm bob the fucking builder. WE CAN BUILD IT!
SORRY!

v/la till the 13th, On actual vacation, will be able to post in the evenings, just don't expect wall!

Also, I could get behind nacho.

Hay, nacho:
1 for yes, 2 for no.

Are you town?

Nacho already said that his role PM doesn't indicate alignment.

Ozgin's PM was the same.

[Klingoncelt]

And then there's the matter of Maruchan - The Doctor, Neutral Whimsical Time Traveler,

maybe

killed N2.

Is Maru dead? Was/is Maru a killer?

[Klingoncelt]

Can you re-explain your role for me? Your second ability effectively makes someone a strongman?

it means that their night action cannot be blocked by a role blocker, if that is the definition of a stong man, then yes for one night.

I also think that nacho is the best lynch for today. He is the highest liklyhood of being not town. Then if he flips as not town we kill klingon tomorrow and the town wins, gg. If we miss, then we live hapily ever after with the third party.

vote: nacho

If the game still doesn't end after my lynch, try re-lynching Maruchan.

[Klingoncelt]

CooLDoG,
Klingoncelt,
Oversoul

and possibly Maruchan...

I have some ISOing to do. bbl...

[Klingoncelt]

I don't think Maruchan exists anymore

798 » Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:52 pm

--- Maruchan --- The Doctor, Neutral Whimsical Time Traveler --- Finally, Totally, Definitely Killed Night 2. Maybe.

It's that "maybe" part that has me wondering.

If you want to lynch me, go ahead, but I don't have a kill power.
Since I have to pick a killer between you and CoolDog, ... I don't know... which one of you is it?

[Klingoncelt]

There's no way I would have been able to get everyone's info. I didn't have a snowball's chance of winning.

But the game was interesting and fun despite the frustration.

I would suggest shorter Night phases.

GG, everyone!

[Klingoncelt]

@Mod

First off, please, I am a "she."

Second, I'm totally not understanding how guessing players made my role overpowered. There was no chance of me being able to guess anyone, and even if I did guess a player or two correctly I wouldn't necessarily be able to get them lynched or save them from lynching.

From my pov, my role was barely a step up from Groot's.

And I would have liked access to the Dead Thread. They were having a ball in there!

[Klingoncelt]

we would have loved to have you in the dead thread too, klingon!

Thanks!

I pissed myself over

Plotinus redirects cooldog's kill to the moon, causing it to fall

[Klingoncelt]

@Mods: Did mafia a have a name? I was in Mute Mafia and Mewling Mafia, what was the third mafia called?

I made the names up as I went along. There wasn't enough time to be fancy and/or rigorous. If anything they were just "Mafia".

I would suggest shorter Night phases.

(1) Longer Night phases technically help your role.
(2) It's easier to meet deadlines when not doing everything via phone from a 6+ time offset from everyone else.

If you still don't understand your role and the ability to basically get the mod to say, for instance,

There are four players or factions that control Night-kills.

or

This game does not conform to the post GreyICE made in the sign-up thread.

or

Ozgin is dead. His alignment was Town.

or

Two abilities have been used during the Day phase.

or

It is not the case that there are two Town Doublevoters in this game.

or

There are three roles in this game that can redirect actions.

followed by

All three of the roles that can redirect actions were dead before the beginning of Day 2.

, then *shrug* .


I accidentally closed the tab with the Night actions on them, but after Night 2 basically nothing happened that you didn't see inthread.

Oh. I figured that I'd never see

red truth

.

I get it now.

[Klingoncelt]

Everyone should play a Space Dandy and a U-Pick at the same time, lol.