NY 187: Pariah's Mafia [/FIN]

[pisskop]

VC

[Titus]

I crumbed BP because I figured that it's going to be really helpful nightkill-wise later into the game, which it's going to me.

Also, should probably also note that Pisskop said that I won't know when one of my shots is used up.

The ideal time to say BP is after you are shot. Not before unless lylo.

[Titus]

I feel duppin, Titus, Boon... team

Aero, Keysor, ank.... team

have no idea on hermit.

Do the role-claims have any effect on your reads?


Does anyone town-read Boonskiies?

Low-activity through-out the game (if you had a PR, I'd understand), but you claimed VT. Motivation? VT's should be the loudest.

Ignoring the first part as that's a question for Kitty (I think).

I don't think anyone is town reading Boon and that's my problem. No one town read dragonspawn, but me (if generous to me) town lynch. Same thing with FB. Ronit too. I voted Kitty because I am pretty damn sure she's scum. I expect resistance from scum there.

Kitty is probably scum. No one claimed double voter. We could go through based on activity levels and find it. DV is 100% scum.

[Aeronaut]

I crumbed BP because I figured that it's going to be really helpful nightkill-wise later into the game, which it's going to me.

Also, should probably also note that Pisskop said that I won't know when one of my shots is used up.

The ideal time to say BP is after you are shot. Not before unless lylo.

We're role claiming. And it's safe to assume we're in LYLO at this point, so....

[Aeronaut]

Titus, you're factoring the double vote into your VCA, right?

[Titus]

Spoiler: Double Voter VC

Votecount 1.LYNCH

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Prolapsed Brain

- (11) BlueBloodedToffee, duppin, davesaz, Bellaphant, TheCow, Keyser Söze, Dragonspawn, <Vote>, FA_Q2, Bulbazoor, Klingoncelt -

!!LYNCH!!

Dragonspawn

- (4) Sword master, Garmr, Shazam, Annadog40

davesaz

- (1) Radiant Cowbells

Keyser Söze

- (1) mykonian

garmr

- (1) Boonskiies

Bellaphant

- (1) Aeronaut

Not Voting:

Kop, Kitty Galore, Prolapsed Brain

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With 21 alive it takes 11 to lynch.
Deadline is 10AUG15, (expired on 2015-08-10 17:00:00)

All Votes after post 421 are invalid and will not be counted.

Votecount 2.11

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davesaz

- (5) Keysor Söze, <vote>, garmr, BlueBloodedToffee, Aeronaut, Bulbazoor

garmr

- (3) Dragonspawn, Boonskiies, davesaz

Kop

- (1) Titus

BlueBloodedToffee

- (1) FA_Q2

Dragonspawn

- (1) duppin

Aeronaut

- (1) Shazam

FA_Q2

- (1) Radiant Cowbells

Titus

- (1) Kitty Galore

*adding the vote to this Vc was easier than deleting the flavor from dave's lynch

Not Voting:

Ankamius, Kop, TheDominator37

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With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.
Deadline is 17AUG15, (expired on 2015-08-17 12:00:00)

Seeking replacement for Kop

Votecount 3.LYNCH

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ronit

- (8) garmr, SaintConstantinetheHermit, FA_Q2, Aeronaut, Firebringer, Ankamius, BlueBloodedToffee, <vote>

SaintConstantinetheHermit

- (3) ronit, Bulbazoor, Shazam

Not Voting:

Boonskiies, Kitty Galore, Keyser Söze, Titus, duppin

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With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.
Deadline is 01SEP15, (expired on 2015-09-01 13:00:00)

Votecount 4.LYNCH

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Firebringer

- (7) Aeronaut, BlueBloodedToffee, garmr, Ankamius, Kitty Galore, FA_Q2, <Vote>

Aeronaut

- (3) Titus, Firebringer, St Constantine the Hermit

Kitty Galore

- (1), Boonskies

Not Voting:

Keyser Söze, duppin

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With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is 09SEP15, (expired on 2015-09-09 14:00:00)

The pressure began to seep in from all sides. Every living member of the biodome was subject to harsh scrutiny, and all of their unmentionables were aired in an attempt to flush out the anti-establishment terrorists. While some handle stress better than others, few noticed the signs of Firebringers imminent sanp incoming.

Just a good ole boy, Fire never meant no harm. He did his best to repsect his comrades and always tried to take the heaviest loads off the shoulders of others so that they might accept him. Lately nobody trusted each other enough for that, however, and perhaps worse, he was kept up the past few nights and interrigated about his somewhat radical belief in self-honesty and political whathow. Standing watch was the last thing he should have been doing. Really, those 12 hours were much better served sleeping or really anything that wasn't mindless minutiae.

Whatever the cause, when Fire started seeing the warning and safety pictures move it was probably a sign to get help; but being the caring person he was he could only try to bear it as it overwhelmed him

Firebringer,

[Town] Citizen

, was Lynched Day 04!

Night 04 begins now. Send in your actions
Deadline is 05SEP15, (expired on 2015-09-05 19:00:00)

[Titus]

I crumbed BP because I figured that it's going to be really helpful nightkill-wise later into the game, which it's going to me.

Also, should probably also note that Pisskop said that I won't know when one of my shots is used up.

The ideal time to say BP is after you are shot. Not before unless lylo.

We're role claiming. And it's safe to assume we're in LYLO at this point, so....

I meant crumbling BP after shot there. Sorry for not being clear.

[Titus]

Titus, you're factoring the double vote into your VCA, right?

I can't directly because we don't know who it is. Yet by matching activity, we might be able to determine a time profile of the DV.

[Aeronaut]

I crumbed BP because I figured that it's going to be really helpful nightkill-wise later into the game, which it's going to me.

Also, should probably also note that Pisskop said that I won't know when one of my shots is used up.

The ideal time to say BP is after you are shot. Not before unless lylo.

We're role claiming. And it's safe to assume we're in LYLO at this point, so....

I meant crumbling BP after shot there. Sorry for not being clear.

Yea, but Pisskop told me on D1 that

I would not know

if I was shot, therefore it's really best to crumb sooner than later for me.

[Aeronaut]

The double voter makes me think that we have a serial killer instead of two scum teams. Think about it; there's only

one

from what we've seen. There's zero chance that just one scum team has a double voting ability. Doesn't it make a lot more sense to you for there to be an SK that has that ability?

[Aeronaut]

Like if there's still two scum teams and it's 2:3:3 we're pretty screwed at this point anyway.

[Ankamius]

I don't understand why we're focusing on two separate scumteams instead of scumteam + SK.

[Aeronaut]

I dunno that's what Titus is telling us but I just don't see it being true.

[Ankamius]

If we legitimately have two scumteams, then they're both pretty awful for never having once flipped the other with nightkills.

Either way, giving a shit about two scumteams right now is meaningless and basing analysis on it is even worse.

[Titus]

I think the DV balances the one shot cop joat but Ank and Aero do have a point.

Yet why would scum have a cop if they are the only ones it would be positive to. Would scum joat really balance a DV?


@Aero, if there's a missing kill, that's when I would have. If scum did not shoot you, then they likely shot other scum.

[Titus]

If we legitimately have two scumteams, then they're both pretty awful for never having once flipped the other with nightkills.

Either way, giving a shit about two scumteams right now is meaningless and basing analysis on it is even worse.

Ank, if there's only one scumteams then my entire VCA is total shit.

[Ankamius]

The SK doesn't have investigation immunity then.

[Ankamius]

If we legitimately have two scumteams, then they're both pretty awful for never having once flipped the other with nightkills.

Either way, giving a shit about two scumteams right now is meaningless and basing analysis on it is even worse.

Ank, if there's only one scumteams then my entire VCA is total shit.

That's a monumental assumption to be making when the only scumflip we have is unflavored.

[Aeronaut]

I think the DV balances the one shot cop joat but Ank and Aero do have a point.

Yet why would scum have a cop if they are the only ones it would be positive to. Would scum joat really balance a DV?

Can you not investigate an SK?

@Aero, if there's a missing kill, that's when I would have. If scum did not shoot you, then they likely shot other scum.

Will keep in mind. Idk, I never know when to crumb stuff.

[Titus]

Not really when scum have a cop. Everyone had the same assumption.

I find it odd when I question tracking the DV, you're thinking single scumteam but said nothing during my vca statement (saying I was stating my vca required the assumption of two scumteams).

Second, my vca looks at taking into account what scum are thinking and doing at any given time. A single scum with SK approaches this game very differently than multi scum teams.

[Titus]

I think the DV balances the one shot cop joat but Ank and Aero do have a point.

Yet why would scum have a cop if they are the only ones it would be positive to. Would scum joat really balance a DV?

Can you not investigate an SK?

@Aero, if there's a missing kill, that's when I would have. If scum did not shoot you, then they likely shot other scum.

Will keep in mind. Idk, I never know when to crumb stuff.

Check the wiki for cop. It generally gets positives for mafia only but some mods require SKs to be invest immune for cops not to hit them.

Would an SK show as guilty or innocent to a cop check?

[Aeronaut]

I find it odd when I question tracking the DV, you're thinking single scumteam but said nothing during my vca statement (saying I was stating my vca required the assumption of two scumteams).

I did. I think I literally said "Why are we assuming that it's two scum teams"

[Aeronaut]

Ok, I have a rather straightforward question to ask of all of you.

@Everyone What do you think of SCtH right now, and his slot during the game. Is he town, is he scum, and why?

I'd like an answer from everyone before we do anything. This is important to me.

[pisskop]

Would an SK show as guilty or innocent to a cop check?

Depends on the wording of the Cop power. I'll save you the trouble of asking and cite the PM of the Mafia JoaT below.

Hello. You are a

[Mafia] Jack-Of-All-Trades

. You possess three abilities (1-Shot Ninja, 1-Shot Doctor, 1-Shot Cop).
Your faction consists of

I bet you wish I would have just left this part right here in, don't you?

Once per ability and once per game at night, you may use one of your three abilities. You can guarentee that no investigative actions can track any kill you make with Ninja. you can protect one player from one kill for one night with Doctor. You can determine the alignment of one player with Cop. Cop results will not report specific faction, and will be in the form of 'Town', 'Not-Town', and 'No Result'.
You win when you achieve parity with the town, and nothing can upset that.
Confirm in the Game-Thread pre-game. Unconfirmed players after will be force-replaced.

[Titus]

I find it odd when I question tracking the DV, you're thinking single scumteam but said nothing during my vca statement (saying I was stating my vca required the assumption of two scumteams).

I did. I think I literally said "Why are we assuming that it's two scum teams"

That was to Ank.

I recalled you saying it.