NY 187: Pariah's Mafia [/FIN]

[Aeronaut]

eh.

What if we lynch fire instead?

[Aeronaut]

Oh i get it I think

[Aeronaut]

Kitty in that post said she was just adding you to her scummiest

then

when in reality she had you as scum all game.

[Aeronaut]

Grammar you haven't told me about why we haven't lynched fire yet.

[Aeronaut]

Still waiting for Aero to be lynched.

BBT why are you avoiding what I asked you?

[Aeronaut]

paoipajfpajfpahifp

[Aeronaut]

Hey fire, specifically why should BBT vote for me?

[Aeronaut]

Who else do you have reads on?

[Aeronaut]

Ok, do you have scumreads?

[Aeronaut]

@Garmr/everyone else

Ok, this is something BBT said about fire yesterday and it made a lot of sense to me.

VOTE: davesaz

Null on Gamr

Obvious bussing. Even gives himself a reason to jump off by 'looking into them both more later'. He had already done a 'bit of reading' and decided Dave was a good vote.

I vote Dave cause gamr wasn't pinging scum to me so went for next best thing

Making his vote look weak so he can easily backtrack from it.

Hmmm UNVOTE: davesaz

This wagon isn't that good either.
I am getting town from davesaz most.

While gamr is more active most of his content is well lackluster. I don't think it is really coming from scum though.

I don't really like either of these tbh.
Feels like two wagons on town.

Now he is getting town from Dave? Where did this come from? Unfortunately, Fire was so generic and vague about his reads that it's hard to criticize them. It does show a very clear lack of read progression though.

I guess gamr is a better wagon, but idk.
Don't really trust it.

Looking to hop on Garmr if presented with the opportunity of just Garmr or Dave.

I don't know who to vote!!!!

Someone give me compelling case in either.
This is frustrating neither appear scummy.

Acting like nobody had provided reasons for either Dave or Garmr being scum.

Can we speed lynch this?

The thing that really seems off to me about it is this post where he literally goes from voting Davesaz, to saying he's his strongest townread in the form of "I'm getting town from davesaz the most".

In addition to being really weird about the dave wagon, here was his reason for joining dragonspawn/ronit

ronit behavior is scummy and we lynch all liars in my town!
VOTE: Ronit

Today he's been pushing me all day. So have a few people, whatever, but then now he's saying that i'm just a null read. When asked if he

had

scum reads, he says no. I just feel like it's strange now two weeks after replacing into this game he just doesn't have scum reads.

If you look through his entire ISO, not once does he call

anyone

remotely scummy except for Ronit. I suppose he called Titus's vote opportunistic one time, but she's now in his town reads so I suppose it just doesn't matter to him. Instead of pushing people and taking stances, he simply states his town reads and just jumps on whatever wagon he sees fit.

These posts especially make me feel like he's just trying to push

some wagon

in order to get to night.

Spoiler: Fire pushing wagons over people

Hmmm UNVOTE: davesaz

This wagon isn't that good either.
I am getting town from davesaz most.

While gamr is more active most of his content is well lackluster. I don't think it is really coming from scum though.

I don't really like either of these tbh.
Feels like two wagons on town.

@Firebringer, who do you want to wagon?

@Kitty, As I told you, I drunk post a fair amount. It's not an excuse. You going back there after my explanation isn't cool. Scum frequently play dumb. Brian skies in Battlestar would reask questions I literally just answered to create the impression I was ignoring the game. I also mentioned that I'm never a wallflower, which everyone here agrees with. So the fact you think I was somehow plotting have a lack of commitment to scum hunting is asinine.

I looked at dragon, he read as confident town to me.

Strong town read than Gamr gave.

I don't know who to wagon, give me suggestions and I'll take a look to see if I agree.

I guess gamr is a better wagon, but idk.
Don't really trust it.

Which train should I Join.

I am so indecisive this is not like me.

VOTE: Shazam
I don't mind this wagon for now.

VOTE: St Const

For two reasons:

1: I see him as scum. Something just sits weird with me for him.

2: I want to see Titus' reaction towards me; I have been seriously inactive, and Titus has only slightly pushed for me a couple days ago I believe, so it's slightly suspicious to me. I have to figure out if I think that makes her town or scum.

I can probably tell you, with one vote their isn't going to be a reaction. At least if it was me. We need a train on him to get reactions!

Can we get a VC here?

EVERYONE PUSH FOR AERONAUT! BELIEVE IN THE WAGON

OK, so I just looked back and I have no idea why I stopped voting Fire...

VOTE: Fire

YAY VOTES FOR ME!
That means I am popular, right?

I think you unvoted me cause you realized I am town?
I don't remember if you made a case on me. Don't care.
GET ON AERO!

Honestly Aero you are mostly Null to me, but this seems like a good wagon to be on atm compared to any other.

And yes, I am willing to lynch Nulls. Because screw players I can't get any reads on.

More often than not he's either saying "Oh bother I just don't know

what

to do!" or "Hmm which wagon suits me best", and it just looks to me like he's actively avoiding taking any sort of major stance on anything. He's even pushing for my lynch without committing to saying I'm scum. He's just trying to cover himself for tomorrow.

[Aeronaut]

Case on fire is on the last page?

The day has been going on fine, you just haven't really been a part of it.

[Aeronaut]

I feel like if you were town you'd be like giving reads, doing something constructive, anything pro-town etc. But all you're doing is posting about how good a lynch you are so I don't really know what else you expect us to do.

[Aeronaut]

... You just said your claim is boring. I feel like we can all imply what that means

[Aeronaut]

If you're a vig I really hope you would have CCed BBT by now

[Aeronaut]

I'm drunk

Hi

[Aeronaut]

BARK my dog will you

[Aeronaut]

What no

Stop yo VC shite Titus

That's not how I works always

[Aeronaut]

While I'm
Here I'm gonna say that I'm also not sure about key

Idk he's been quiet

Idk what tha means

What does it mean Titus

[Aeronaut]

The longer it takes for him to be lynched the more I think he's probably scum to be honest

[Aeronaut]

That's how everyone should be thinking, yet still he's in the game

[Aeronaut]

Yea^

[Aeronaut]

Oh hey, apparently drunk me also forgot about keyser.

Although drunk me also forgot that frying pan doesn't go in the fridge

[Aeronaut]

Uh, hey Titus would you say that there is a Serial Killer or two scum teams?

Just asking.

[Aeronaut]

Because earlier in the day, you mentioned that you think it's probable that we have two scum teams instead of a serial killer, even using the terms "red team" and "blue team" as hypotheticals.

[Aeronaut]

But now, you've just said that Firebringer is likely not groupscum? This implies that there'd be a serial killer, right?

[Aeronaut]

But then why not just say he's town?

[Aeronaut]

How in the hell are there three kills? BBT is odd-night, is there a third killing role we don't know about?

@key I think that now would be a really good time, actually. Usually LYLO is the time and I think that time's now.

[Aeronaut]

Also, consider my vote on hermit for now.

[Aeronaut]

@Aero, you're up. PR or VT.

PR, hence why I seriously hinted yesterday that I would not be lynched.

Personally, I'd say there's a really good chance of scum being within Key, Titus, Hermit. Those three people look the worst to me.

I need to also re look at Boon though; usually if he makes it to this point in the game he because active/helpful but that's not the case here so maybe I'm wrong about him.

[Aeronaut]

Oh my bad.

Nominate Titus.

[Aeronaut]

I'm a bit swamped at the moment, but I'm i'm a two-shot bulletproof townie.

[Aeronaut]

Um I might possible be a tad drunk so I may totally claim my double bulletproof

cop-mason role in this post

You don't think I have provided reasons for my reversal of read on Dragon?

Also, a read and a vote onto a wagon are two different things. PB went against the wagon, stating he was ignoring it and I should feel bad for pushing it. Then he joins the wagon I'm pushing and doesn't explain the reversal in his read.

I explained the reversal. PB did not explain his reversal. There is a huge difference in both of our actions.

Can you vote PB now?

I don't really know why I should vote PB besides that thing he did which you also did.

Spreading awareness of a tell decreases it's value.

I'd rather keep this one for myself.

You would rather weasel out of explaining anything at all.

That is, inherrently, anti town at best.

VOTE: RC

Share what you have or don't bother posting it.

What the fuck did you just say to me you little shit?

I'll have you know I'm the top scumhunter in the entire MafiaScum and have over 300 confirmed scum lynches.

I'm extensively trained in VCA and have conducted numerous secret raids on the Werewolves.

You are nothing to me but another

hated townie

.

I did something like this to crumb a hated role once are you crumbing one?

Oh jeeze don't be asking for people's roles

@kitty - like what? 'Coz that wasn't it. Who is your no1 lynch rn?

@Gamr, can you explain about your comment on associative before a flip?

Already answered that in my post right after maybe read my iso

Also if you say things like this when people ask you for clarifications then I'm going to policy lynch you.

Do you still stand by your first reason for voting dragonspawn? Or has his defensive-reactions added to your scum-read of him?

Both.

This kind of defensiveness is hard to read because it's at the very least anti-town.

Why is defensiveness anti-town?

This question is such a blatant misrep that I almost want to vote you. You chopped off the context, and even in that one sentence you quoted, there is the phrase "this kind" that you just threw out the window with your question. If you are asking why a kind of paranoid defensiveness that causes a player to misread posts and think they're more against him than they really are is anti-town...I think it's pretty obvious. It hurts the town when someone misinterprets what everyone else is saying and gets super defensive about it because it is a) deceptive b) illogical and c) often seen as scummy. In this case, I do see it as scummy, which means it's at least anti-town if he's actually town.

In what way is it a misrep? Sorry, just not getting that.

This question is such a blatant misrep that I almost want to vote you. You chopped off the context, and even in that one sentence you quoted, there is the phrase "this kind" that you just threw out the window with your question. If you are asking why a kind of paranoid defensiveness that causes a player to misread posts and think they're more against him than they really are is anti-town...I think it's pretty obvious. It hurts the town when someone misinterprets what everyone else is saying and gets super defensive about it because it is a) deceptive b) illogical and c) often seen as scummy. In this case, I do see it as scummy, which means it's at least anti-town if he's actually town.

Wanna fight?

Being defensive is not scummy, nor is it anti-town. For you to suggest such things is absurd. People interpret posts differently...that's kind of the point of online Mafia. If everyone interpreted posts in the same away there would be no discussion. So no, 'misinterpreting' as you put it is not deceptive and it's not illogical and as stated earlier being defensive is not scummy.

Eh, depends on really the situation. Like some kind of defensiveness is natural and makes sense in the context of the ISO of whoever is posting, but other times it seems "off" or unwarrented. People who go around yelling "THAT GUY IS DEFENSIVE HE'S A SCUMBLE" at every person who picks apart their own wagon are silly. However, that's a lot different than noticing someone being overly defensive for not quite a lot of threat, eg what happened earlygame with dragon.

I don't remember dragon spawn being this oblivious in my mason game with him he demonstrated the ability to think I even understood his thought process in my mafia game against him he was logical this feels like a act to play off as dumb

This is the other reason I'm choosing to keep my vote where it is... I feel like Dragon is smart usually and he's just being either naive or obtuse in this game and I can't figure out which. I feel like it's obtuse.

Don't really agree is putting it mildly.

If I post my tell here everyone will start being conscious of it, and will make it useless.

Yea, the observer effect.

VOTE: Prolapsed Brain
Giving in to pressure seems rather scummy.

Where did he give into any pressure? I may be just tired but I guess I missed that happening

Kling are you town or scum

Solid questioning

Yeah, I was making a joke based off of what someone in my neighbour hood said.

Don't worry about it.

Lol I've decided I love playing with you


Sorry for any mispellings / nonsensicle sentences in there. I think I'm sobered up but who the heck knows at this point

Dragon what are your reads right now? You seem to be like voting a hundred times and It's confusing as hell

[Aeronaut]

That's the only outright crumb I have really, and being honest it was mostly intentional.

I also pretty crumbed just having a PR yesterday while you guys were trying to lynch me yesterday.

[Aeronaut]

Why would I want to crumb BP? Shouldn't that be obvious to you?

[Aeronaut]

No you're not.

You're being obtuse as fuck.

[Aeronaut]

I crumbed BP because I figured that it's going to be really helpful nightkill-wise later into the game, which it's going to me.

Also, should probably also note that Pisskop said that I won't know when one of my shots is used up.

[Aeronaut]

I crumbed BP because I figured that it's going to be really helpful nightkill-wise later into the game, which it's going to me.

Also, should probably also note that Pisskop said that I won't know when one of my shots is used up.

The ideal time to say BP is after you are shot. Not before unless lylo.

We're role claiming. And it's safe to assume we're in LYLO at this point, so....

[Aeronaut]

Titus, you're factoring the double vote into your VCA, right?

[Aeronaut]

I crumbed BP because I figured that it's going to be really helpful nightkill-wise later into the game, which it's going to me.

Also, should probably also note that Pisskop said that I won't know when one of my shots is used up.

The ideal time to say BP is after you are shot. Not before unless lylo.

We're role claiming. And it's safe to assume we're in LYLO at this point, so....

I meant crumbling BP after shot there. Sorry for not being clear.

Yea, but Pisskop told me on D1 that

I would not know

if I was shot, therefore it's really best to crumb sooner than later for me.

[Aeronaut]

The double voter makes me think that we have a serial killer instead of two scum teams. Think about it; there's only

one

from what we've seen. There's zero chance that just one scum team has a double voting ability. Doesn't it make a lot more sense to you for there to be an SK that has that ability?

[Aeronaut]

Like if there's still two scum teams and it's 2:3:3 we're pretty screwed at this point anyway.

[Aeronaut]

I dunno that's what Titus is telling us but I just don't see it being true.

[Aeronaut]

I think the DV balances the one shot cop joat but Ank and Aero do have a point.

Yet why would scum have a cop if they are the only ones it would be positive to. Would scum joat really balance a DV?

Can you not investigate an SK?

@Aero, if there's a missing kill, that's when I would have. If scum did not shoot you, then they likely shot other scum.

Will keep in mind. Idk, I never know when to crumb stuff.

[Aeronaut]

I find it odd when I question tracking the DV, you're thinking single scumteam but said nothing during my vca statement (saying I was stating my vca required the assumption of two scumteams).

I did. I think I literally said "Why are we assuming that it's two scum teams"

[Aeronaut]

Ok, I have a rather straightforward question to ask of all of you.

@Everyone What do you think of SCtH right now, and his slot during the game. Is he town, is he scum, and why?

I'd like an answer from everyone before we do anything. This is important to me.

[Aeronaut]

Prodge, will be back after I finish what I need to finish

[Aeronaut]

Ok, I have a rather straightforward question to ask of all of you.

@Everyone What do you think of SCtH right now, and his slot during the game. Is he town, is he scum, and why?

I'd like an answer from everyone before we do anything. This is important to me.

Single scum, he has the inuyasha problem. Everyone died who suspected him. Multiscum, I would expect one team to suspect him. Yet that didn't happen, so I am a little perplexed.

Yet, he"s an easy Mislynch bait as town and people do not like him.

This is how I feel about Kitty, currently.

I just don't really have anything to say. Not many people are posting.

Really not sure if this is Boon trolling or Boon literally not having read this game once. Maybe both. I really don't know what to think of him anymore, especially since I've never seen his scum game before. Need to look into some meta, maybe.

Titus, vote Ank. Duppin, you should too. KG, vote Ank also, and I won't hammer you if you go to L-1. St Const...you should also. There. Then we'd have 5.

What. Why.

*Forgot the rest of Kitty

She has textbook double voter timing presence, was on during Day 4 and OK with that lynch, yet brings up stale reads to push me. She's hyper secure in surviving ATM.

Can you elaborate on some more of the the "textbook double voter" timing presence? If you already did something extensive and I'm missing it just link me.

It's kitty/Ank, and then probably one of duppin/keysor

Key is pretty conftown at this point with that claim, tbh. Unless there for some reason was just an Odd-night Vig and not an even one. Which I suppose COULD happen.

Alright, caught up.

To be honest, nothing has really changed. I do like a lot of what Titus has said today, but I could still see her be aligned with dave.

Anyway, not interested in Keysor, Ank or Aeronaut today.
I'd like to hear from the Hermit slot (Performer).

Oh and I would still lynch between Kitty, Titus, Boon and Hermit (in no particular order).

Hold on, in this post you go from saying you like a lot of what Titus has said today, to like two sentences down saying she's in your lynch pool? In what world does that make any sense?


Ok, the thing that's

really

bothering me about the Hermit slot here is that there's a lot of people saying "Oh yea he's suspicious!" but very few people willing to actually go through and lynch him at this point.

So I'm planning on voting him. I understand I asked what people thought of him and some of you replied, but really a lot of people didn't.

Because of that, I'm going to revise this question;

Why DON'T you want to lynch him today?

I, too, do want to see what performer is going to say, but honestly I really find it hard to believe I personally am going to be swayed against that lynch today.

[Aeronaut]

Key, who did you shoot last night?

[Aeronaut]

Why did you decide to kill FA?

[Aeronaut]

Oh this is exciting.

I found it to be unrealistic to look through all 90+ pages before day 5 deadline, compose a comprehensible reads list, and post it in a timely manner. So I decided to read from page 90 and beyond. Here’s my general reads list.

Town:

Titus

– plenty of scumhunting

Boon

– feels town = 2227 and other posts, look like he is pro-town

You literally aren't saying anything here... Titus is scum hunting. That's it? Where? With who?
What looks town about Boon's 2227?

Null:

Keys

– 2251 and other posts, look like he is pro-town . See some scumhunting from him but 2297 doesn’t add up, compared to page 1 total amount of players. What’s going on with that, Keys?
Claimed to be Even-night Vig

Ank

Duppin

– thought Kitty/Titus/Boon/Hermit could be lynchable. Claimed to be Vig Enabler

Besides Key, you literally just didn't say anything about Ank, and for Duppin you state two random facts and don't say any more on the matter. This doesn't tell us anything about what YOU think, it's just regurgitated.

Scummy:

Kitty

– 2280, just what are you trying to accomplish here? Only town left? That’s impossible

Therefore, based on that one post and not any other part of the game, Kitty is scum?

Aero

– claimed to be Two-shot BP Town in 2305. Anyone else think that’s a little overpowered even for a large game, therefore making it sound like a fake claim? 2404 about him doubting there being an Even-night Vig even though an Odd-night Vig died, doesn’t feel right

Yes, because 2-shot bulletproof is so overpowered. 2404 also isn't about me doubting an Even-night-vig.. it's me literally telling boon that it doesn't make a lot of sense to be doubting that claim with a flipped Odd-night vig. I still beleive it COULD be possible for Pisskop to do that to us, but it's highly unlikely at this point and I don't really care to pursue that now, or ever really.

Your reads list is comprised of things like "This post feels town", and "___ is scum hunting", random facts that don't really correlate, and selective posts from each person. I get that you don't want to read 90 pages, but this is really a very lazy and fence-sitty reads list. You're scum, trying to get SOMETHING out there.

[Aeronaut]

Here's the deal; we have four days left and Hermit/Performer is who we're lynching. I'm pretty sure he's scum at this point, and that empty readlist combined with the fact that it's taken this long for anyone to try to push this guy should

really

tell you all you need to know.

VOTE: Performer

That's what I'm doing today. If you're smart, then you should be doing it right along with me.

[Aeronaut]

Titus, I know you're sick and busy and all but seeing as you have him pretty far into your scumlist, I'd love your support on this too. If you actually think he's scum, then you should have no problem voting him today.

[Aeronaut]

If you're not convinced, here's the entirety of his ISO. It's 12 posts.

Spoiler:

Okay, so interesting tidbit for you all to anaylze. I didn't actually sign up for this game, it was someone else.

Carry on...

Titus, can we play a game without you trying to kill me?

Yes, I have been surprised how many times I have gotten out of being lynched. I hide behind others scumhunting passion.

The only time I actually get lynched is when ppl are just seriously confused/frustrated, so they lynch me as a last resort.

I am feeling an Aero lynch

VOTE: Aero

Pisskop, you need to relax on people man

Well you could always lurk

I support a mass roleclaim

What the fuck is this nominating shit?

I am town [citizen] which is totally different than vanilla town

If I could count the times scum reverted on a claim by stating it was all a big joke that went over our heads.

Hey guys, I still think aeronaut is scum. Mod is way to pushy with the prods, let's be honest.

Pro tip for self meta lovers; I avoid claiming vanilla if I can manage it.

@Titus, are you saying I kill off people who suspect me as scum, or vote people who suspect me as either allignment?

Sooner or later people are going to come to terms with the fact that I am a scum magnet, so lynching people who attach to me when I am obvious town is not a bad strategy.

BTW Titus, I don't see why you had to go and delete all the hard work you did on your VCA. Even if you think there is an error, I am still sure people would appreciate reading it.

I am also establishing a meta where you never get around to posting your VCA as scum, so my constructive feedback would be to try and break that trend if it does exist (you could disagree)

Most of them are mainly just-nothing posts, as well.

[Aeronaut]

Now add that to the two posts by Performer today.

[Aeronaut]

Aeronaut, you shouldn't expect anything from Constantine. I've never seen him do anything in games.

Ok, but I also don't like what Performer has posted. I don't like what his other slots posted. So that's enough for me, and again should be enough for you.

[Aeronaut]

Also, the "this is how he always is" is always going to be a lame excuse.

[Aeronaut]

I didn't say anything about the rest of your post for a reason, Aero.

So you should be fine with voting him today.

[Aeronaut]

hey I'm

drunk too

[Aeronaut]

hey titus since your drunk

are you scum

be honesssst!!!1

[Aeronaut]

Noooo

Are you scum?

No

I'm bulletproof

too-shut

[Aeronaut]

My read on you is wrong? I didn't give a read on you.
I stated I believe there is at least one scum between the three of you based on voting records. I am not entirely sure if you've read day 2 yet, but if not please do so. If you are town, then you have to realise there is most likely one scum between Titus and Boon. Your reads on them are mostly based on their posts today which is a mistake. Day 2 is very important, since it was the only day where we lynched a scum.

Ah ok, I thought you meant you read it as us 3 are a scum team.
I haven't read day 2 but thanks for pointing that out to me, I'll go to it right away. I'll put off 2nd-look ISOs for now. I do admit my reads on Titus and Boon are based on part of day 5 only, so I'll have a look on day 2.
Before I'm off to the day 2 files, I don't mean to sound like a broken record, but I am 100% town.

Duppin you're on and I'm drunk. What is this connection you referenced between me and Dave?

What's your read on Performer/Hermit and Kitty?

Are you and Aero feeling sad? Because sometimes sad people drown their sorrows with alcohol.

I only drink
When I'm happy as a rule

Also college

So I'm always happy

[Aeronaut]

I love all of you even if ur scjm



SCRAM I SAY

P-edit Titus how are you talking

You drink better than me possivl

[Aeronaut]

Possibly but I generally don't drink to stumbling level. Can't be my own client.

Speaking of drinking
And mafiaing, PREIN FOR Drunk MAFIA THIS SEPTEMBER

[Aeronaut]

Duppin was a vigilante enabler... does this mean he was enabling Key, or was he enabling some sort of vig with an extra kill on the scum team?

[Aeronaut]

I guess there'd be more kills, but I guess it could be like a X-night thing.

[Aeronaut]

I want to vote Kitty but I am not sure if scum and sk would crosskill and I think we need that to win.

There's a slim chance of 2 v 2, which means we have to lynch Kitty to win.

No one should vote at the moment until we are on the same page as to lynch v no lynch. Doubly so with the secret voter.

How would it be 2v2?

And we should absolutely be SK-searching at this point.

[Aeronaut]

How does red starting off with 4 members and blue with 2 make sense?

[Aeronaut]

Ok.

Ankamius, what is your read on Boonskiies currently?

Boon, what's your read on Ank right now?

[Aeronaut]

Kind of thinking its boon+Ank as the last scum, and Kitty as an SK. Was thinking she was town before because her reasoning seemed like it had a more logical progression than I had thought at first glance, but at the same time, a serial killer can still have a logical progression. They're looking for scum too.

What you've said about the DV makes some sense to me too. That's also why I really think it's an SK and not two teams still; it doesn't make sense to me that there would be a double voter on just one team. It DOES make a lot more sense as an SK role.

[Aeronaut]

Oh ffs, deadline is that close?

VOTE: Performer

VOTE: Performer

He legitimately slipped; it's a fine lynch.

These votes in particular look a lot more like quick jumps to me than your vote, because I sort of had to convince you, and you already had Hermit in your scumpile.

So I'm inclined to say you're town here. That's a scary statement to me, because I can basically never read you. I'm going to go with that for now though.

[Aeronaut]

Which one would you rather vote?

[Aeronaut]

Yea I sort of feel like I'm being buddied a little bit.

[Aeronaut]

I'm going to be voting either Ank or Boon today, leaning Ank.

[Aeronaut]

Actually, Ank can you give us in detail

why

Boon is so scummy to you?

[Aeronaut]

Yea, I think Kitty is likely the serial killer. That statement looks to me like she's trying to dispel the existence of that role here, and that really just isn't the case I don't think.

[Aeronaut]

Also Ank, can you please answer my question?

[Aeronaut]

What's your opinion on kitty/Titus?

[Aeronaut]

I think it's very hard to draw associations in this game particularly because scum have daytalk. For all we know, it's honestly possible that Kitty and Titus are on a team together, even though they seem the least likely.

I don't

really

think that's the case, but I think I might try doing a full ISO dive tonight or tomorrow and see if i see anything that feels off between certain people.

I'm still honestly of the opinion that it's you and Boon on a team, and then that Kitty is the SK, based mostly on behavior from D5, and POE because I really don't think Titus is scum at this point.

[Aeronaut]

Also, unless something wonky happened, we should assume that whoever is the serial killer killed Duppin, so if we want to be sure on who that is it may be good to look at people who had been scum reading him?

[Aeronaut]

What? If anything you're the one doubting the role

[Aeronaut]

But you literally did the same thing, you said we should hunt for the SK but not vote them.

[Aeronaut]

Hold on... how do you think that the DV is on the scum team?

That makes so much more sense as a third party role.

[Aeronaut]

Real life's a bitch, yada yada

I'll be sure to check in tomorrow morning I think.

[Aeronaut]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSS

[Aeronaut]

Wow, I really thought it was boon and Ank.

I can never read Titus and I never will be able to.

[Aeronaut]

I legitimately thought kitty was town from the moment that I changed my vote on her

[Aeronaut]

I was literally 1 player away from calling every single scum player when I died.

fking boonskiies is inscrutable

Yea, that's why ya had to die.

Mafia Thread

you can also post my notebook PT if ya'd like

[Aeronaut]

Aero did you think I was scum?

Why did you shoot Boon?

I thought you were town. I was basically 100% sure. So good job there.

Boom was shot because he claimed serial killer. Having said that, I would have still likely shot him as I mentioned in my PT, just because I had a good feeling he was scum.

[Aeronaut]

This was also probably the most fun game I've played, even if I didn't win.

[Aeronaut]

My particular strategy was to avoid getting into arguments with the "big" players who I knew would fight me to the death. This includes for me, RC, Titus, Garmr, BBT, etc.

[Aeronaut]

My other strategy was to pick off the most experienced players and work from there.

[Aeronaut]

By fight to death, I mean I personally feel like you're a better player, and/or more likely to be a voice of the town; I don't want people who are the voice of the town to be attacking me.

[Aeronaut]

This was a cool role I had; the double vote was so much fun to strategize with.

[Aeronaut]

I was also 1-shot BP, not two. I figured saying 2-shot would repel scum from
Shooting me if they'd already taken one shot

[Aeronaut]

This was a cool role I had; the double vote was so much fun to strategize with.

You only tapped the surface, too. I saw you had some nifty ideas though. I might run a similar setup at some time.

Yea. I had a lot of ideas that I didn't end up using / didn't end up working. It's cool though, some of them did and that's what matters.

I was really careful to make it look like kitty was the DV, or at least someone besides myself.

[Aeronaut]

I feel slightly bad, but tbh it's also a part of the game. It was fun to play with you though!

[Aeronaut]

Was I L-1?

oh jeeze

[Aeronaut]

Yea; I knew that if I went at it with you we'd go nuclear, probably, which would be real bad for me.

Look at you guys, getting insight on my entire scum game!!!

[Aeronaut]

I had Aero pegged as SK for like 3 entire day phases, just didn't want to out it because it only helps scum. :/

Ironically, I was 100% sure you were scum

Man, an SK win. Now that is a surprise. nice work Aero.

I assume that town took me out this time? Man I looked bad as I got on every wagon that I should not have been on.

Thanks!

I had Aero pegged as SK for like 3 entire day phases, just didn't want to out it because it only helps scum. :/

As soon as aero reacted to the fact when i said the secret voter was obvious test I had him pegged as the secret voter. Didn't put him as the sk through.

Yea, actually I'm glad nobody really picked up on it besides you. I thought I was so screwed there.

I knew Aero was Scum! It's that cute avatar, it's trickses it is. It tries to trick us...

That's the goal

[Aeronaut]

Yep!

[Aeronaut]

Usually the act of scum.

[Aeronaut]

Is it the VCA?