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The Fire Hermit Goon
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Close enough
Let's lynch Brunneis today. Look at Makara and Vedith tommorow.Hydra of Firebringer and St Constantine the Hermit-
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No and no.
Makara and Vedith are scum. They will stay scum even if one flipped at the end of today.
Firebringer does think Vedith is town though, and I respect his opinion. I just think firebringer gives people town credit way to often for things that I see scum do all the time.Hydra of Firebringer and St Constantine the Hermit-
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Actually, I agree. While makara is debatable, I'm not seeing why you're so confident about Vedith-scum. Even if you don't like Fire's townread.
I like Vedith, if that wasn't obvious. Especially their makara callout. Asking questions is easy, and really only warrants a null read until they do something with all their information.
And I'd rather either goodmorning or Trivium, than Brunneis... And I wouldn't call these associatives, the only association I'm making is tentatively giving Brunneis a pass because them as scum clashes with my other scumreads.
I get where you're coming from with Brunneis, but I'm not comfortable with their lynch.
Duppin, I hope you're still around. Are you currently favouring Trivium or Brunneis as scum right now? Also, I dislike telling players to prove their towniness. Honestly, its a great opportunity for scum to scum to follow up with some votes, of even for town to blame mislynched town for looking scummy. I guess you'd call it a minor pet peeve? I swear, every time town mislynches, they blame the now dead player... Not that I'm accusing you of all this, I just don't like the comment.One man's trash talk is another man's treasure talk.-
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So agreed. The first couple of games I played here, I was blamed because others mislynched me, like it was somehow my fault.
I kept stating that I was focused on scumhunting and not on defending myself, which is how everyone should play. It just gave scum a vote justification, "If he refuses to defend himself..."
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Also I am extremely selective about which reads I share, and especially push.
I see no reason to head into Vedith territory now, even when requested.Hydra of Firebringer and St Constantine the Hermit-
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In post 257, Ika Musume wrote:In post 251, goodmorning wrote:It occurs to me that ika's kinda playing to his Scum meta atm.
Kinda? I'm 100% doing ym scum meta intentionaly i was waiting for ppl to realzie it.
Hi gm how ar eyou
gladder now you've posted this? idk why, it isn't very helpful
but still
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@Brunneis 258: I'll answer this later, I'm too tired rn and also we'll probably be going around twice.
In post 260, Varsoon wrote:Ika's not throwing up any red flags for me yet.
It's been awhile since I've played with Taly, so, again, I'm not confident there.
Sorry, don't really have much to sink my fangs into.
I feel like Ranger's recent post is on-point.
I'd say that we lynch between those three for sure, sure.
I could vote this.
And not only because there's no .gif in this post.
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I have like 0 feelings about duppin and it is super annoying to me
In post 266, Errantparabola wrote:In post 251, goodmorning wrote:It occurs to me that ika's kinda playing to his Scum meta atm.
Could you elaborate
He basically doesn't do shit.
In post 269, Trivium wrote:wait a minute brunneis, if you think me and goodmorning are scumpartners, why did you say that goodmorning is "slowly" starting to look scum to you? Is he scum or not?
Shit, that's a good point, they've both been calling me Scum for fucking ages.
In post 270, Brunneis wrote:In post 269, Trivium wrote:wait a minute brunneis, if you think me and goodmorning are scumpartners, why did you say that goodmorning is "slowly" starting to look scum to you? Is he scum or not?
Taly and I are not 100% in agreement.
Klingoncelt
Aren't you?
In post 237, Brunneis wrote:In post 205, makara wrote:In post 195, Brunneis wrote:Yes he is. He and Goodmorning are the droids you're looking for.
Klingoncelt
Is there anything else that you find scummy about goodmorning or is this purely associative?
Associative,mostly. Plus reasons.
Klingoncelt
Both of you have been calling me Scum for a while now.
In post 274, Brunneis wrote:
Very funny.
Please attempt to build a case on us.
Wherefore?
In post 186, goodmorning wrote:Actually you've just reminded me that Taly was super townreadable in the game I had with him. Like, yeah, I was Mafia, but like I said, I'd have townread him anyway.
So why should Taly, if Town, be worried about being lynched? If you're actually Town he should be expecting me to pick up on that sooner rather than later and swoop to the rescue in Helios' magic chariot.
Unless you're Scum trying to get him mislynched...
Except, as I've already mentioned, I was Scum in that game, and I rescued him then anyway. That's how I play. I townread the people I would townread if I were Town. It's easiest that way.
In post 186, goodmorning wrote:
In post 246, Trivium wrote:
I feel like the point of this entire post is to look like town. You make a whole lot of posts, but you aren't asking questions, you aren't scum hunting, you're just trying to make yourself look town.
...Trivium, are you actually Town after all?
I think you are.
OH NO DID I JUST WK YOU?????
omg
Just like a good little Scumbuddy should...
lolEFFORT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENTLA during normal working and sleeping hours EST
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In post 311, goodmorning wrote:In post 257, Ika Musume wrote:In post 251, goodmorning wrote:It occurs to me that ika's kinda playing to his Scum meta atm.
Kinda? I'm 100% doing ym scum meta intentionaly i was waiting for ppl to realzie it.
Hi gm how ar eyou
gladder now you've posted this? idk why, it isn't very helpful
but still
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@Brunneis 258: I'll answer this later, I'm too tired rn and also we'll probably be going around twice.
In post 260, Varsoon wrote:Ika's not throwing up any red flags for me yet.
It's been awhile since I've played with Taly, so, again, I'm not confident there.
Sorry, don't really have much to sink my fangs into.
I feel like Ranger's recent post is on-point.
I'd say that we lynch between those three for sure, sure.
I could vote this.
And not only because there's no .gif in this post.
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I have like 0 feelings about duppin and it is super annoying to me
In post 266, Errantparabola wrote:In post 251, goodmorning wrote:It occurs to me that ika's kinda playing to his Scum meta atm.
Could you elaborate
He basically doesn't do shit.
In post 269, Trivium wrote:wait a minute brunneis, if you think me and goodmorning are scumpartners, why did you say that goodmorning is "slowly" starting to look scum to you? Is he scum or not?
Shit, that's a good point, they've both been calling me Scum for fucking ages.
In post 270, Brunneis wrote:In post 269, Trivium wrote:wait a minute brunneis, if you think me and goodmorning are scumpartners, why did you say that goodmorning is "slowly" starting to look scum to you? Is he scum or not?
Taly and I are not 100% in agreement.
Klingoncelt
Aren't you?
In post 237, Brunneis wrote:In post 205, makara wrote:In post 195, Brunneis wrote:Yes he is. He and Goodmorning are the droids you're looking for.
Klingoncelt
Is there anything else that you find scummy about goodmorning or is this purely associative?
Associative,mostly. Plus reasons.
Klingoncelt
Both of you have been calling me Scum for a while now.
In post 274, Brunneis wrote:
Very funny.
Please attempt to build a case on us.
Wherefore?
In post 186, goodmorning wrote:Actually you've just reminded me that Taly was super townreadable in the game I had with him. Like, yeah, I was Mafia, but like I said, I'd have townread him anyway.
So why should Taly, if Town, be worried about being lynched? If you're actually Town he should be expecting me to pick up on that sooner rather than later and swoop to the rescue in Helios' magic chariot.
Unless you're Scum trying to get him mislynched...
Except, as I've already mentioned, I was Scum in that game, and I rescued him then anyway. That's how I play. I townread the people I would townread if I were Town. It's easiest that way.
In post 186, goodmorning wrote:
In post 246, Trivium wrote:
I feel like the point of this entire post is to look like town. You make a whole lot of posts, but you aren't asking questions, you aren't scum hunting, you're just trying to make yourself look town.
...Trivium, are you actually Town after all?
I think you are.
OH NO DID I JUST WK YOU?????
omg
Just like a good little Scumbuddy should...
lol
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In post 286, Brunneis wrote:Ika Musume - Ika straight-out claims to be playing by his Scum meta. Does that mean he's Scum? If it does, then he's playing against his win condition. Town.
You're going to townread him based on WIFOM?
Newsflash: people claim Scum as Scum all the time. It doesn't go against anyone's wincon.
Also, by this logic, you should be townreading me too since I've also said I'm playing by my Scum meta.
gm - wk's Trivium lots
p sure we've been over this already
I can say the sky is green as often as I like but it's still not going to make it true.
In post 294, The Fire Hermit wrote:Varsoon has also attracted a fair amount of scum suspicion as well.
eyyyy more agreement
we cool
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Vedith is probably Town.
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I'm not being lynched today, don't bother trying.
P-Edit:
You can delete stuff you're not asking about, you know.
Why Varsoon? I've been sort of meh on most of his stuff, but 260 is just bad. ika is totally playing to his Scum meta, there's plenty of stuff in this game for one to sink one's fangs into, Ranger's post was just 'omg guys, look, wagons exist and i'm going to randomly call these people Scum for no apparent reason', and if there's nothing for him to 'sink his fangs into' then why is he suddenly fine with narrowing the lynch pool to three (based on what, exactly)?EFFORT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENTLA during normal working and sleeping hours EST
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In post 287, Ranger wrote:
What.Brunneis wrote:Ranger - FoS for weird bailing on Errant wagon
I'm THE driving force behind the Errant wagon. I voted Errant early and haven't moved my vote since then, with Errant always as my #1 scumread.
Klingon here.
I misinterpreted something, then. You were on the Errant wagon, but later you started talking about GM, Trivium, and us.
A lot of players will leave their vote on someone they aren't interested in any longer while they decide who to switch to.-
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In post 290, GrayFoxxxx wrote:My daughter decided to me born a month early tonight. :')
Gotta vla for 4 days.
Congrats from both our heads!
We hope she and her mom are doing well.-
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In post 295, Vedith wrote:
In post 286, Brunneis wrote:Makara - Nothing pinging my Scumdar, seems to be asking good questions... Town
Talk to me about Makara.
Makara seems to be asking good questions? Now, I'm looking over his questions... It's asking why for votes most the time or why someone has said something.
Asking why is just a generic question.
"why?"
"I don't get the wagon on Brunneis. What are people finding scummy about them?"
"Trivium - can you respond to this. What did you find scummy in particular about my reaction test?"
"Is there anything else that you find scummy about goodmorning or is this purely associative?"
"I don't get this. How exactly does Trivium using flawed reasoning to push Brunneis make Brunneis less scummy?"
These are very empty questions if you ask me.
Questioning is my playstyle, especially on Day 1 when I get kinda bored. Right now I'm also busy in real life. I would like to post more but I'm unable to right now.-
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In post 274, Brunneis wrote:
In post 186, goodmorning wrote:
In post 246, Trivium wrote:
I feel like the point of this entire post is to look like town. You make a whole lot of posts, but you aren't asking questions, you aren't scum hunting, you're just trying to make yourself look town.
...Trivium, are you actually Town after all?
I think you are.
OH NO DID I JUST WK YOU?????
omg
Just like a good little Scumbuddy should...
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In post 316, makara wrote:Right now I'm also busy in real life. I would like to post more but I'm unable to right now.
When will you be free then?
I'd like to discuss directly with you.I claim scum \o/-
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Actually you know what? That's a dumb question.
For some reason I thought about confirmation bias being a thing with the association between gm and trivium but I don't think that's where it's at.
I don't think that the association read is particularly strong or anything. Here's another question. Other than GM's inconsistency regarding trivium, what other evidence leads you to make such a strong association read?-
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In post 319, Errantparabola wrote:Actually you know what? That's a dumb question.
For some reason I thought about confirmation bias being a thing with the association between gm and trivium but I don't think that's where it's at.
I don't think that the association read is particularly strong or anything. Here's another question. Other than GM's inconsistency regarding trivium, what other evidence leads you to make such a strong association read?
Is this question for me, or someone else?One man's trash talk is another man's treasure talk.-
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[/quote]In post 295, Vedith wrote:In post 286, Brunneis wrote:Vedith - Not much posting, but no negative pings... Lean Town.
Varsoon - Not much going on there. Null
Ummm, any reason that I go lean town for not posting and Varsoon goes null?
I mean, are there any negative pings from Varsoon?
With you I'm not getting any negative pings.
With Varsoon I'm getting a combination of Town/Scum pings.
[/quote]In post 295, Vedith wrote:
In post 286, Brunneis wrote:Makara - Nothing pinging my Scumdar, seems to be asking good questions... Town
Talk to me about Makara.
Makara seems to be asking good questions? Now, I'm looking over his questions... It's asking why for votes most the time or why someone has said something.
Asking why is just a generic question.
"why?"
"I don't get the wagon on Brunneis. What are people finding scummy about them?"
"Trivium - can you respond to this. What did you find scummy in particular about my reaction test?"
"Is there anything else that you find scummy about goodmorning or is this purely associative?"
"I don't get this. How exactly does Trivium using flawed reasoning to push Brunneis make Brunneis less scummy?"
These are very empty questions if you ask me.
They at least get the conversation going and get players to explain themselves. This is only Day 1 after all, so I'm not looking for anything too profound to happen.
[/quote]In post 295, Vedith wrote:
In post 286, Brunneis wrote:Ranger - Scores a couple of Town points, but skips out on things... the Errant thing wasn't good. Lean Scum
Talk to me about this.
In post 49 He says: "Errant following my vote made me instantly think she was scum." He looks around at other players, deciding who else is Scum. At the time it looked like his vote on Errant was Ranger going after easy pickings and being dismayed that his low-hanging fruit wasn't mislynched.
That's been cleared up, Ranger insists that he thinks Errant is Scum, so...
Ranger missed out on answering some questions.
Does your other head agree with any of these reads?
Other than that, I do quite like the scum reads... I'm just not sold on Trivium as much as I am GM, and I'm always a fan of thinking that when a scummy looking person gives 2 scum names, the first is town and the second is scum.
Would you be happy with a GM lynch? As I like that slot for voting.
We're in general agreement, more or less.
I can go with either GM or Trivium.
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In post 301, The Fire Hermit wrote:Close enough
Let's lynch Brunneis today. Look at Makara and Vedith tommorow.
Shaddup, Hermit. I've fucking had it with you.
You're supposed to be the fucking Town Leader, but you're nothing but a dumbass troll.
If you aren't going to help Town, then fucking lurk for the rest of the game. With any luck you'll be an early NK.-
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I just want to make a note, last time I played with Klingon and she used AtE she was scum....
Just making that as a note.Hydra of Firebringer and St Constantine the Hermit-
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In post 310, Vedith wrote:Yeah, stay out of my territory!
Hello Town Vedith, lovely day isn't it?Hydra of Firebringer and St Constantine the Hermit
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