Micro 542: Five Nights at Freddy's Good End.

[Davsto]

gdi

I keep track of my games and what phase and wtf do I put for this!? This is D1 technically, but N1 flavoured! You've broken me!

VOTE: Marge

[Davsto]

Closed? As in we don't flip with roles?

[Davsto]

So ZZZX made a wagon, lets talk about that.
I mean, I know it's night time but lets not all hush hush///

Making that wagon is basically null, it forwards his cause if scum but also draws negative attention, something scum would avoid.

[Davsto]

I guess, but if he were scum it would help him by getting a semi-wagon off. Townlean, sure, but mostly null.

[Davsto]

That's... quite a change of effects between those two posts. How did you get that "mixed up", exactly?

[Davsto]

Y'all should be thankful I'm not ika.

[Davsto]

Oh no not the wifom

please


noooo

[Davsto]

Seriously though, that'd be the best Jester win.

[Davsto]

Beep.

[Davsto]

Davsto, what are your thoughts on that wagon yesterday? It all happened while you were gone.

The reasons seemed good enough but man, that hammer was bad.

[Davsto]

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VOTE: Flow Alpha

I feel like I shouldn't even have to explain why that's terrible reasoning.

[Davsto]

Davsto, where are you?

At school at least at the time of this post.

I'm still not liking Flow Alpha, but Shiro's reaction to Marge's post looked really, really fake and forced.

On the other hand, Flow Alpha claimed this D1. He claimed Beloved Princess D1.

Like, fuck off would anyone but scum looking for survivalism do that.

VOTE: Flow Alpha

[Davsto]

Potentially to make people wonder why they haven't been killed (or because they didn't believe the claim), hence why I'm avoiding that line of argument entirely.

[Davsto]

Congrats, you've made me want to lynch him more, as now I know that a Beloved Princess in a 9p game would be horribly unbalanced. Seriously, this claim is bullshit.

[Davsto]

Bad, as in don't lynch where we could lose. I'm not saying bad at the game

What, should you never lynch at lylo then? Fuck are you even saying?

[Davsto]

Like, the idea of a Beloved Princess appearing ever is hilarious because it's a terrible role, the idea of it appearing in a 9 player game is insulting to the mod because it is the most unbalanced shit, and you honestly think that a Beloved Princess would claim D1.

Fuck that.

[Davsto]

But entertaining the possibility of Flow being town is stupid since the possibility is so small.

[Davsto]

It is still game over if we lynch him and we are wrong. Too big of a risk.

Man, it's not like that's exactly what he wants us to think or anything.

I mean, if he is a Beloved Princess, we lose today if we mislynch anyone who isn't him so you could argue that too.

[Davsto]

So basically, if he's telling the truth, we lose if we mislynch today.

On day 2.

On fucking day 2.

You actually buy that shit?

[Davsto]

What do you mean neutral jester, if he is we lose right?

Generally Jesters nowadays soft-win (i.e. they win when lynched, and win along with the winning faction whether Town/Maf/other 3p)

[Davsto]

Sure!

lane - Seems quite twitchy and panicky which is ?, but his worries about Flow seem genuine, rather than posturing (particularly since posturing if he were scum would make no sense since to him that'd mean he'd definitely win upon Flow's death). Townlean.
Guilty - Talking a fuck load of sense. Also doesn't go with the easy consensus of 185 being a bit weird, when he easily could have done and not really been looked at badly for it. Townlean.
ZZZX - Okay so where the fuck exactly

is

this guy?
Marge - But however much I think Guilty is town for not jumping on that thing, Marge pointing out that thing is pretty townie as it is a pretty meh thing for Shiro to be doing. Weak townlean.
Shiro - Ugh, always have trouble reading her. Shiro bringing Guilty to L-1 in that first day wagon and her hard defence of Flow is pretty eww, particularly if Flow flips scum, but I can't help but feel that scum wouldn't do those things because of the negative attention it draws to them but they are scummy things that help scum so asjdoiajsdo. BUT Shiro is definitely the careful kind as scum, if my memory vaguely serves me correctly (..?). Null, honestly.

[Davsto]

Sh͟i̵ro͏, ̨

J͏ere̶m̢y F͟it͞zge͘r̢ald

,͡ ҉wa̛s͢ D̀áy͘ 2!̴

J̐ͪ͒̃҉e̶̋̓͗ͣ̊ͣ̈́rͨ̋͂̓ͮ̄̾ēͮͪͧ͆̚͜m͑̑ͤ̀y̡͛͌͛ F̵̂̀ͥ̊̄iẗ́̃ͪͦ͗źġ̊ͬͤͨeͣͨ̿̚r͐̋̇̄̔a̒ͧͨ͐l̽̏ͫ҉ḑ͊

,͌̊̎ ͯͫ͊ẅ̴̿ͧą̏̉͋̇͑͒s̷ͩͯ̃͌̿͗̋ ̷̍̾ͪ̒̓̂͂k̶ͯ̽ͫ͋ͣ͆ì̴̽̃ͨl̀̊̅lͨ̀ͩ͊eͤͪ̇͆ͭͥ́d̽ ̿̓D̔ͩ̐ͮ̊ȧ̒̏͢ŷ̌̏͒ͣͧͫ ͯ͝2̷̋̿̽!̸̈ͪ

S̥͖͒ͮ̍̍͒̃͐ḧ͖̻̻̤̯ḯ͉̥̪̹̣͖ͧͬ́ṛ͙̀́̒̄̌̑o͖̤͚̱̦̝͟,̹̖͍̩̥̖̒̕ ̤̗͂͟

J̬̟̻̤͉̃͊e̷̠͖̦̬̪ͧ̓r͈̀̍ͩ̆e̤ͣm̷͉̏y̵̺̤̳͌ ̙̰̖̼̠̦̟̄ͭͬ̔͋F̤̳̤̊͟ï͔̦͚̲̼̋̒̌t̋͋ͫ́z̻̟̟̃ͦ̓ͫg͓̬̣͕̬ͯ͒̓ē̱̮̬̿͠r̰̊ͫa̧̼̱͖̾l̅ͦͥ͏d̷̦̲̜͐͊͗

,̛̉ͬ̀̒̐ͬ ͪ͏̫͍̭͚͈̯͕k̞̪͉͓̱̽̋͒̔̍̎̾͘iͧ̽ͣ̐̆̚͏̘͇̯͖l̳͕̜̓ͭ̐ͦl̡̳ͩ̒e̻͎̠̹̙̯͉d̑͊́͏͇̝̯̬̯͚ ̩̈́̃D̲͍͙ͣͫ̓̏̄ȁ̛̓̆̎y̰͉̌̀ ̪͎̹̪̻͓̳̅ͫ̅̊ͭ͟2̼̗̔̓̂ͦͬͫ̅!̹͔̭̬͇͗̓̇̐̇̆

Shiro,

Jeremy Fitzgerald

,

GAME OVER

Day 2.

Because that's not weird or anything.

[Davsto]

A Watcher

and

a Cop? I'm not sure I buy it.

[Davsto]

Shiro.

[Davsto]

-You may use your empty Freddy head to watch those around you. During the day you may target a player. You will be told who, if anyone has targeted them.

[Davsto]

lane - I think he might be town. He was suspicious of Shiro for a lot of yesterday if my memory serves me correctly, and I imagine that as scum he wouldn't have killed her as it would have allowed him to push her today.
GuiltyLion - His claim is questionable considering a flipped Watcher, the fact that he didn't inspect you to make sure if he was right and to avoid him wrongly tunneling is weird, as is him not inspecting Flow Alpha early on too, particularly after Flow's D1 quickhammer.
ZZZX - Confirmed town (or Godfather but that's really not a can of worms worth opening).
Marge - I... don't know. I'm kinda ill today so I won't do a reread to make sure, but I'll get around to it when I'm more able to function.

[Davsto]

Reducing a game about analysing and thoughts to numbers to support your hypothesis is a terrible idea.

[Davsto]

there will be a conftown player in LYLO unless you lynch me today.

If you are town and telling the truth (still not buying it) then there is both a Town Cop and a Mafia Roleblocker. Probability states that the Roleblocker is to avoid Follow the Cop and thus there is a Doctor. So, there could still be a conftown player in LYLO if we lynch you today. Fun fact there, for you.

[Davsto]

I'm saying that if there's a Doc, then ZZZX probably won't die tonight if we lynch you.

[Davsto]

Talk about projection.

[Davsto]

And with me putting doubt into their head like this, are they really going to try and kill ZZZX?

You're coming up with all sorts of panicky reasons not to be lynched today.

VOTE: GuiltyLion

[Davsto]

(Also no I'm not crumbing Doc so if there is one please please please don't attempt to counterclaim

thanks)

[Davsto]

Do you want me to claim? I can't prove it anymore thanks to Guilty's panicked, premature claim, but I can tell you anyway.

[Davsto]

*sigh*

I'm Phone Guy. Each Day I can inspect one person and I get their flavour name. Last I inspected Guilty and thus I can support that The Puppet is his actual role name. Sadly, due to him deciding to claim early, I can no longer prove it.

(I inspected Shiro first, by the way.)

Reason I doubt Guilty:

Whilst not impossible, Watcher+Cop+Flavour Name Cop seems an odd combination. Admittedly, Flavour Name Cop has little to no power so it's not like it's ridiculous, but it's still slightly odd in my eyes.
Secondly, The Puppet+Balloon Boy makes a surprising amount of sense as a scumteam, considering they were both introduced in FNaF2. I have been aware of this from daystart hence my push.
Thirdly, his attitude to Flow yesterday was largely to focus on other things and try to take attention away from the push ("X what are your reads outside of Flow", his hard Marge push, etc) which I find meh.

[Davsto]

Explain how?

[Davsto]

^ in regards to

Davsto - what do you have against scum!Marge? Because if you're town then to me it's pretty obviously Marge.

[Davsto]

I mean I've already said I'm basically null on Marge and am too ill (horribly horrible sore throat where I literally cringe in pain whenever I swallow) to bother ISOing and rereading her. I'm not against the idea of scum!Marge, I just have no particular inclination of there being a scum!Marge.

[Davsto]

UNVOTE:

Because I'd like to have some consideration of Marge before the day gets ended.

[Davsto]

Hmm, maybe. I'll look at it tomorrow when I can function to a higher standard.

PEdit see, I'd argue against that. IMO, the less you focus on other people, the more they think they can get away with. If you focus on the main lynch and then come back to people's behaviour afterwards, you're more likely to catch something than if you actively show that you are looking at other people during the day because they're going to be more careless.

[Davsto]

But honestly that's just a playstyle thing and entirely irrelevant in regards to alignments.

[Davsto]

backs down quickly to lion

I'm not "backing down". I still think he's scum. I'd just like to avoid a quickhammer while I get my thoughts together on you.

[Davsto]

backs down quickly to lion

I'm not "backing down". I still think he's scum. I'd just like to avoid a quickhammer while I get my thoughts together on you.

I was voting him too, where is the quick hammer coming from?

I think you'll find there's more players than just us. I don't want someone else to suddenly agree and end the day before I gather my thoughts.

Update on my wellbeing: I have tonsilitis, joy of joys. Really not in the mood to ISO today. We have 11 days left until deadline though so I'm not worried, no rush.

I'll still try and interact (mainly answering questions) but I'm not gonna be getting a grasp on Marge any time soon.

[Davsto]

Dav claimed to check shiro too as a role cop. That too would explain why shiro was dead since he was a PR.

Not role cop, flavour name cop. As in, I inspected Guilty and got a result saying he was The Puppet.

[Davsto]

Meh... maybe I will. Idfk. No. I won't. Why claim role name cop? Its so stupid.

Marge. What's your name? And role?

Can you not claim your name so I can prove my claim by actually being able to say someone's role name?

[Davsto]

Because Phone Guy can identify the things.

[Davsto]

Bleh, still tonsillitising. Most games I'm managing but I need to look through Marge's ISO and evaluate it in this one, so I'd rather put that off until I'm fully functioning.

(While it in itself doesn't limit my brain skill, the fact that as a result I've barely eaten for the past few days is likely to affect me.)

[Davsto]

See, the worrying thing to me is lane is trying to put the idea out of a Godfather, as seen here.

So if we believe the claims, does that mean we entertain the idea of a godfather?

I don't think it's impossible. It just means the last scum has some support of ability. Like immunity to night actions. Or godfather

Now, if he gets a Marge lynch, he basically has to kill GuiltyLion, leaving him alive with me, who has a confirmable role via Flavour, and ZZZX, who has been confirmed town by inspection. I'm worried he's planting the idea of a godfather to stop me from instantly pushing him tomorrow.

[Davsto]

...

Nice, you lynched an investigative before he could claim because of REASONS??? that I don't think anyone actually gave.

[Davsto]

Have fun in lylo, it's gonna be hell for you, town. Probably wouldn't have to have bothered to get that far if you'd listened to me but nope you lynched me for reasons which even you didn't understand, nice job.

[Davsto]

People who think the game is solved waayyy before it is are oh-so-often wrong. Don't let the confirmation bias go to your head

like it did today

.

[Davsto]

Are you forgetting that (if you are town) in a setup that has both a Watcher and a Cop, there is surprisingly likely to be a Godfather? ZZZX has totally been cruising after your inspect.

[Davsto]

Wow, you're pointing inconsistencies from a dead town player?

Seriously, this guy's scummy as fuck too. Not really sure who to recommend to lynch tomorrow.

[Davsto]

Hehe

Sorry, can't keep it up, love fucking with people

gg, everyone, I was last scum, woot, well played town, (I was also Role Cop so I could have supported my claim).

Kinda bitter about having Flow Alpha as a scum partner as he is, to put it simply, goddamn incompetent and going on my blacklist. I feel there would have been a much better chance of me winning if I wasn't basically forced to bus my roleblocker (as I wouldn't have then had to push GuiltyLion since we could just block him the rest of the game). I know it's making excuses but I do feel kinda cheated.

[Davsto]

Like, at first I was thinking that the setup was pretty townsided when I Role Copped you (Watcher + Cop? Really?) but then I realised it probably would have been fair had I not been forced to lose the roleblocker so early. The win was still enough town's skill for me to not blame it all on that and get properly pissed off, but it was certainly a factor enough for me to get slightly irritated.

[Davsto]

Well played everyone. Particularly lane - I had no idea you were third party, and thought you were too townie to push a mislynch on!

I did pretty well early on, but I'm still crap as scum so I got lynched

Well done everyone!

[Davsto]

Yeh, Flow was a pain in the ass even to me.