Mini 1741: Day 3

[Keyser Söze]

Here.

We.

Go.

This girl is surely following me...

VOTE: Frozen Angel

[Keyser Söze]

VOTE: Zulfy
So, what made you change your vote immediately from one post to the next?

VOTE: Keyser Söze for having umlauts which require me to plug in my German keyboard everytime I write his name.

Do not fear Lady M, the non-diacritic 'ö' can be converted to 'oe' (Keyser Soeze).

[Keyser Söze]

That font is incredibly annoying and I want to lynch you posthaste.

COME AT ME BRO.

Isn't it a Turkish name? I thought umlauts only worked like that in German.

..."some say his father is German"

.

[Keyser Söze]

I will gladly

policy lynch

you to avoid reading it.

"Policy lynch"?

I don't think you understand what a

policy lynch

actually is.

[Keyser Söze]

What, you actually searched MafiaWiki for the definition? How cute.

I think you will find that trying to lynch someone based purely on what font they use is "bad town" and harmful to town.

[Keyser Söze]

I feel like expressing the

gravity of my issue

with your font choice.

"gravity of my issue"

Are we actually having this conversation...

[Keyser Söze]

I believe size was the issue ( ), not the font. I've added an extra 4%.

[Keyser Söze]

and no keyser , I think I said in before you in this one too

I take back everything I said.

What do you make of Zoronos' valiant effort to get us out of RVS?

[Keyser Söze]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: RadiantCowbells

UNVOTE:
VOTE: RadiantCowbells

Repetition for emphasis, Zulfy?

this comment is scummy. It doesn't make him town. but it doesn't make him scummy either. It seems your trying to use the opportunity to start a very slight wagon on RC.

I had more concern over the

town-motivation

of RadiantCowbells' vote than the

town-motivation

of Zulfy's vote.

[Keyser Söze]

because captain planet always got his ass kicked

CP sucks ass tbh

Heathens.

Nice wagon by the way.

That suggests to me that both you and Zulfy are playing pro-town, and you at least are more likely to be town (which isn't saying much at this point in the game when there is no information to go).

Yes, I liked both their attempts to break us out of RVS (which naturally draws immediate attention to their slot).

[Keyser Söze]

If you knew for 100% there is one scum in your wagon, who was the scum?

Both Scorpious and TheLhix. Scorpious (

ad hominem

) and TheLhix (

for regurgitating Scorpious' RVS

)

But on a serious note how can you have no read yet be scum leaning at the same time?

Simple. Frozen Angel said she was "slightly scum leaning" Zulfy one post, then states she doesn't have a "scum read" of Zulfy in the next. Where did she state she had "no read" on Zulfy?

If the RVS captain planet hatewagon ever gets to L-1 I will hammer.

3 - the intention of hammering keyser without even contributing to the wagon

I don't think Zulfy was being serious...

[Keyser Söze]

@TheLhix - how long have you been playing mafia for?

[Keyser Söze]

[Keyser Söze]

Are you for real?

[Keyser Söze]

Keyser explain that question after Lhix broke the rules

It's against site rules to claim scum with someone else, btw.

^^
This.
Based on TheLhix's play so far, I conclude that he is a bonafide newbie. I have ruled out trolling.

For now

I'll just sheep the people

who said Keyser's reaction to Lhix's insanity was weird.

VOTE: Keyser Söze

This is a very bold move - I like it.

Eh, I've got no better place to put my vote. Lord help me but I'll sheep RC.

This one, less so. Zero points for originality.


By the way, I won't be making a roleclaim unless the mod confirms the rule regarding claiming scum with another player. If I do roleclaim, we will likely be lynching someone on my wagon.

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I'm a bit iffy with keyser at the moment since he did just beat me in a game he we just finished as mafia.

Why should that be a reason to scum-read me in

this

game? It is a logical fallacy Garmr, and you should know this.

@keyser, pardon me if this was asked/answered already. Why did you ask link about his experience after he claimed he was scum with you? I don't understand the point of such a question

Because I've seen someone claim scum with another player in a previous completed game I played in - he was subsequently mod-killled (

he was a newbie

,

he was mafia-aligned

).

Why would an experienced-Lhix want to get mod-killed?

well I'm playing an ongoing game with him. He is not playing like the way he was playing there.

You are both wrong and breaking site rules - but I believe the mod is letting anything go, so you are safe.

There hasn't been that much pressure on you yet.

I beg to differ. Do you think any player has come under 'much' pressure so far?

I want to know what are your current reads keysar ...

I promise to make a detailed catch-up today, including reads.

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So, if Keyser were scum in this situation, I'd expect his scumbros to either be on the bus already, or trying to push an alternative lynch (or have their votes on the bus while also pushing alternatives).
If Keyser is the scum, do you think anyone fits this behavior pattern?
Basically, when scum are on the hook, I expect the behavior of other scum to change. They do things to try to save their team mates (or bury them for cred). Do you feel any of those behaviors are manifest this game, and if so, who / how?

I know that these questions were directed at Elyse - but what were your

own

thoughts?

That would have been a hilarious ending to the movie, by the way.

Just pictured this in my head and laughed-out-loud.

Link?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=62271

IP looks pretty towny.

No I don't. What is this read? In my first newbie game, RC called me town for no reason and he was scum.

One instance doesn't make it a rule

- InputPrimary is telling us to look at RadiantCowbells with this meta-hint. Noted.

Lol I like this post. Input can be town for now.

What did you ''like'' about InputPrimary's post? That is an easy 'town'-read to dish out.

You can read RC by the amount of F-bombs.. He is town

...and yet another easy town-read dished out.

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Cause I'm not trying to "start my own thing". What part of I'm not playing like myself day one did you not understand?

...so, Jake from State Farm is not comfortable in his own skin and he wants to shout about it to everyone. I don't think think scum-Jake would have made such a big song and dance out of it. Jake wins an uncomfortable half town point.

Yup. You're making a lot of noise, but not doing much to actually scum hunt or push the game forwards.
You're in nulls-ville on my reads list at the moment.
I'm more interested in some other folks, and I want to see what Anen says next since he promised a To Be Continued on his last post.

"not doing much to actually scum hunt"

- a very harsh observation Zoronos.

"more interested in some other folks"

- why are you happy to keep Zulfy in your "nulls-ville"? You should have extra reason to not leave your null-reads in the dark (half a scum-point for Zoronos).

[I'm curious to see more Zulfy-Zoronos interactions now].

UNVOTE: keyser

Naked unvote - we love them! Trying to wash your hands of my wagon?

I like Jake right now as well,I don't see scum there..yet

"..yet"

- interesting open-ended closure there after a town-read. Let me predict, you'll then town-read him for something which is null-indicative...

Jake seems very relaxed

. He is an experienced player so it could be fake,but my early read on him is that he is comfortable.

Yup, I was spot on.

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I think you are town. I think I caught something from you earlier,but very early

Yeah? What was it?

Yes, show me too please. I hate easy town-reads.

That softclaim was completely unnecessary, you're not the type to be rattled by an RVS wagon.

It was not a RVS wagon. I was being scum-read for post 78. But looking back, yes, it did reek of desperation, but that's where my heart was at that time: frustration.

Well for starters one could say my claim and the shit me and Jake did in P.5 officially moved us out of RVS and largely created most of the conversation proceeding afterwards that has got the town into a real hunting stance, while yours proved to be a drop in the ocean that you now largely backtrack and try to redirect or hide from.

Whatever motive you had for pulling the 'shit you did' during RVS, it was actually anti-town and modkill-worthy - I wouldn't brag about it if I was you.

I'm seeing Zulfy vs Jake as TvT here.

Yes. The fact it was going round in circles was amusing too.

Well basically after isoing zulfy then reading which made me iso keyser again and I realized it wasn't as strong as I thought. The only point that still sticks is the lack of reads early in his game. It seems like he putting off putting out a solid scum read.

This by itself isn't really that scummy.

Why mention it then? I prefer to digest the whole thread before posting read-lists/ISO analysis'.

about keyser. I don't like his play this game. We have an ongoing game which we lost all PR's because of a stupid soft claim in. I can't see why he soft claimed there.

You must stop doing this Frozen Angel.

Scum would be happy with the townread and not question it.

I don't know, it's becoming much popular for scum now.

[Keyser Söze]

Frozen Angel is being force replaced for discussion of ongoing games

I did warn you not to discuss ongoing games.

[Keyser Söze]

Yes, this was a real reaction:

@TheLhix - how long have you been playing mafia for?

This one too:

At this point I'm thinking noob or troll?

Are you for real?

Based on TheLhix's play so far, I conclude that he is a bonafide newbie. I have ruled out trolling.[/size]

So I went for newbie. No one would surely give their scum team away within the first couple pages

By the way, I won't be making a roleclaim unless the mod confirms the rule regarding claiming scum with another player. If I do roleclaim, we will likely be lynching someone on my wagon.[/size]

At this point I wanted TheLhix mod-killed and the game VOID.
My desire to play the game had been destroyed

You are both wrong and breaking site rules - but I believe the mod is letting anything go, so you are safe.

Ok, at this point I'd personally lost it. More rulebreaking. No replies to my PMs

Frozen Angel is being force replaced for discussion of ongoing games

I did warn you not to discuss ongoing games.

A forced replacement for Frozen Angel, but no mod-kill for TheLhix, (a site-wide-ban sufficed for the moment).

Yep, I wasn't at a good place at this time
I didn't want to play mafiascum.
Sorry for lurking/fading/replacing out, mafia team.
Sorry to Yimmy too, for my childish behaviour.

But then I remembered. It's only a f****g game! But it does help when people play by the

rules

. Makes it fun/interesting then. We're investing time into these games

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@FA