Mini 1748: ClownTardis Mafia - GAME OVER!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #10 (isolation #0) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:09 am

5th!

VOTE: Shiro

Because he made it to game by cheating!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #13 (isolation #1) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:15 am

In post 12, Persivul wrote:
In post 10, Frozen Angel wrote:5th!

VOTE: Shiro

Because he made it to game by cheating!

How did he cheat?

he wasn't in the first list! and he was cute!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #17 (isolation #2) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:26 am

In post 16, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 15, Soren wrote:Aristophanes and Plotinus are in the same game, nice.
That's what I was thinking!

VOTE: Frozen Angel
For accusing Shiro of cheating!
The Doctor would never cheat!

Well, there's a probability of anything. Statistically speaking, if you gave typewriters to a treeful of monkeys, they'd eventually produce the works of William Shakespeare. How do you know Shiro is a doctor?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #18 (isolation #3) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:33 am

Proof of the monkey thing! : referencing to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem

Frozen Angel · Post Post #25 (isolation #4) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:41 am

Everyone can be scum unless we find reasons that their not.

and about the monkey thing , nah

just for fun. you want reason of my trolling in page 1 ?!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #26 (isolation #5) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:42 am

yeah I meant a doctor who. not The Doctor :/

Frozen Angel · Post Post #43 (isolation #6) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:24 am

In post 27, Davsto wrote:Favourite alien race?
Favourite Master?
Favourite episode?

Weeping Angels
Missy
Blink

Frozen Angel · Post Post #60 (isolation #7) » Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:00 am

In post 57, Rob14 wrote:Kittehs is town.

because?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #61 (isolation #8) » Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:02 am

In post 50, BROseidon wrote:Okay Mala's probably town.

wanna explain?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #62 (isolation #9) » Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:03 am

In post 59, Persivul wrote:
In post 47, FA_Q2 wrote:
In post 8, Persivul wrote:
Oh really - I guess you are upset from last time

Upset? No - it's just a game.

Wary from last time - yep, and you coming in, responding to one post about yourself, and ignoring everything else that's going on isn't making me feel any better about you.

how much effort do you gonna put on your fear about the last game? You have anything else to bring up at this point ?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #64 (isolation #10) » Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:40 am

Nope I'm not taking stance without information. I need to do my tests ...

Frozen Angel · Post Post #65 (isolation #11) » Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:40 am

and I like to see shiro around so no , I won't change my vote atm

Frozen Angel · Post Post #72 (isolation #12) » Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:57 am

In post 70, Aristophanes wrote:immediately assumed I meant role

don't play English with me. I'm not native english and I make mistakes.

all the doctors I said meant a doctor who. I said I wasn't meaning the doctor role.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #74 (isolation #13) » Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:00 am

In post 24, Persivul wrote:The Doctor would never cheat!

I assumed your talking about doctor who.

In post 17, Frozen Angel wrote:How do you know Shiro is a doctor?

I asked why you think shiro is a doctor who (town)

In post 24, Persivul wrote:I read The Doctor (capitalized) as a Doctor Who reference, not a mafia role reference.

well I didn't knew whats the misreading then.

In post 26, Frozen Angel wrote:yeah I meant a doctor who. not The Doctor :/

I stated that I meant a doctor who.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #81 (isolation #14) » Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:58 am

In post 79, Aristophanes wrote:FA immediately questioned how I would know that Shiro is a regeneration.

the f....

Its wrong!

i questioned about how you would know shiro is a doctor who (a town player) !!!!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #82 (isolation #15) » Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:00 am

I answered that when persival mentioned it ....

stop misrepresenting me

Frozen Angel · Post Post #86 (isolation #16) » Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:16 am

that was Aris post

I don't know what happened there. sorry

Frozen Angel · Post Post #88 (isolation #17) » Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:24 am

I'm confused as hell :/

I need some sleep. I will try to translate what happened tomorrow

Frozen Angel · Post Post #110 (isolation #18) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:41 am

In post 108, Persivul wrote:Aristophanes

why?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #112 (isolation #19) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:46 am

Please call me Frozen or Angel if your talking to me. Iگm just so confused about all the FA things everywhere. :/

and sorry because of a real great IRL issue I can't play all my games atm. I will be so less active for the next two days.

pedit : yeah I can see why your town reading mala I wanted to compare your reasons with mine there.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #113 (isolation #20) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:47 am

whats that sign between I and M ?! :/ ^^^

Frozen Angel wrote:Iگm

?!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #114 (isolation #21) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:49 am

And how it got there?!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #147 (isolation #22) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 6:19 am

Shiro Its good to have you here. any other reads ?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #148 (isolation #23) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 6:25 am

In post 120, Rob14 wrote:Forzen's 17: Why do you think players who aren't the Doctor are even in the game? Based on the flavor and my role, I thought we were all 13 Doctors?

In post 124, Aristophanes wrote:This was what I was trying to say in my clunky, confusing paragraphs. Thanks for making it make sense Rob!

Seriously?! You couldn't explain it more before?

I thought Doctor who's are just good people. I didn't notice we're 13 guys in game.

yeah it might be true. But why would we fight other doctor who's?!?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #150 (isolation #24) » Fri Dec 25, 2015 7:37 am

In post 149, Plottin Kittehs wrote:Frozen, why are you still voting Shiro? Is your vote on him now serious?

I want anything townie from him. or any need of pressure on anyone else to move my vote

unfortunately I didn't saw any and I'm really in a bad situation in IRL atm so i can't start pressuring anyone. I promise more contribution after tomorrow.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #175 (isolation #25) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 1:56 am

Persivul I think I asked you an important question back there that I really want to see your answer about

VOTE: Persivul

any update about your post 108 ?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #179 (isolation #26) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 2:28 am

And you were town reading me in the same time?

and about avatar its about another ongoing game. last one was about christmas

Frozen Angel · Post Post #188 (isolation #27) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:59 am

In post 181, Persivul wrote:What's your take on Rob13? I'm having a hard time reading him.

He looks like a mad town

But I like his posts!

There is one point concerning about you persival , Why you got so hellish defensive against Rub push? I thought I'm the only one who would react that emotional to 2 single votes.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #190 (isolation #28) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 6:07 am

In post 189, Persivul wrote:You'll see in time.

That I'm not the only emotional one here? or why you got hellish defensive against Rub ?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #192 (isolation #29) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:20 am

an absolute null read.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #197 (isolation #30) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:20 am

I'm not seeing you scum to have weak townreads. But I can't see why your strongly town read someone with those two posts.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #198 (isolation #31) » Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:20 am

Which was based on some misunderstanding between me and him.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #242 (isolation #32) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:53 am

Ok Davasto lets try talking about the game at hand! Whats your read about Persival - Rob fight?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #243 (isolation #33) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:56 am

In post 241, Adaptive Heap wrote:
In post 239, Persivul wrote:
In post 216, Adaptive Heap wrote:Can you explain why that's town?

Because if he were scum just needing someone to push, there were easier targets, particularly when I thought he was the first to say that about Rob.

Well it was a replace-in post which gave no reasoning and ended up in a vote on Rob.
I mean who was the easier target with that reasoning (ie, none)? Kuroi? davsto?
Several folks had already pointed at Rob for one reason or another. Seems pretty easy to me.

-t

this questions about persival make me happy. half of his read list is just giving away free credits.

Shiro is kind of inactive everywhere so I'm not pushing her at the moment.

I'm waiting of Kurai

I'm waiting for not_mafia

I'm waiting for a new post from plot kittens after being generally town readen.

That being said , I think I'm gonna w8 and see what data will this lurking game provide for us

Frozen Angel · Post Post #244 (isolation #34) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:58 am

I forgot Aristophanes. the only thing he did was a vocab fight with me

Frozen Angel · Post Post #250 (isolation #35) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:01 am

In post 246, Persivul wrote:
In post 243, Frozen Angel wrote:half of his read list is just giving away free credits.

Yesterday I went back and provided the reasoning for almost all my reads. Why do you say I'm "just giving away free credits"?

first I'm happy you provided that list. I can see why you got angry about my sentense about you. That was a bit exageration.

your list is not that bad. but its not perfect. You judged people based on what you call you don't expect their coming from scums. the scary thing here is that you don't consider them coming from a scum who is faking them. I mean who play different when he is scum?

I don't like the way you just say these players are in my conf town list because they posted like a town mind set. at least at this stage of the game when everyone just have 2 or 3 posts. That will happen when we are in later parts of the game and we have info about slots.

Persivul wrote:
In post 244, Frozen Angel wrote:I forgot Aristophanes. the only thing he did was a vocab fight with me

He pushed FAQ2 in 70 & 79. Why do you say he hasn't done anything except a vocab fight with you?

I don't like to call that a push. if its his push its more like active lurking. plus I think that FA is probably me ... not FA-Q2

Frozen Angel · Post Post #252 (isolation #36) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:40 am

you can't read my post or you just trying to put shade on me?

I saw you posted this :

Persivul wrote:
In post 243, Frozen Angel wrote:half of his read list is just giving away free credits.

Yesterday I went back and provided the reasoning for almost all my reads. Why do you say I'm "just giving away free credits"?

Yep I saw anger.

filling space?! I think I said exactly what I meant there. you put people on your strong town list based on the imaginary town mindset you thought. Your reasoning for your read list is not accurate .

No ofcourse not. I prefer to assume everyone scum and try to sort them out instead of comparing them to my town mindset and push them toward scum. the first one is WRONG.

no But when you find them strongly town nearly based on nothing your not willed enough to sort them out at all. whats the difference of them from conf towns for you?

misrepresentation ... give me a break. All he did was his push on me base on the doctor/a doctor argument. what else he did so far?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #253 (isolation #37) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:43 am

In post 251, Persivul wrote:Again, looking for a town mindset is a primary method of reading people

you want me to provide examples for you how obv towns (this way obv towns) can turn to be dangerous scums ?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #254 (isolation #38) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:58 am

Let me explain it in more simple words :

real scum hunting is this : you must assume everyone as scum. try to push them. see their reactions. try to find their weak spots. push them more. they will sort themselves out as town or as scum.

your way is this : I think X and Y are town because their responses are not screaming I'm scum! so lets put them aside and see what others have to say.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #256 (isolation #39) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:07 am

I'm pushing you right now

Frozen Angel · Post Post #257 (isolation #40) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:08 am

Why you think Arri and ploty kittens can't be scum?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #258 (isolation #41) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:10 am

In post 200, Persivul wrote:full town read

by your words ^

Frozen Angel · Post Post #261 (isolation #42) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:33 am

plus I was busy last few days. Bad IRL situation remember? :

In post 150, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 149, Plottin Kittehs wrote:Frozen, why are you still voting Shiro? Is your vote on him now serious?

I want anything townie from him. or any need of pressure on anyone else to move my vote

unfortunately I didn't saw any and I'm really in a bad situation in IRL atm so i can't start pressuring anyone. I promise more contribution after tomorrow.

now I'm here to see whats going on. Iso ing people these people seems to be better in scum hunting :

Rob , Adaptive Heap , Ploty kittens. I give them town points for this.

you? I can't see your try for sorting people.

pedit : Rob , whats your read on me. I'm kind of confused.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #263 (isolation #43) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:38 am

I said his list is not perfect not himself. I attacked his way of scum hunting not his personality or other aspects of play style if it wasn't clear.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #264 (isolation #44) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:40 am

Whats your current read on Ari and plotty kittens? I seriously don't like the way they got universally town readed so soon when there was no pressure on them.

I as scum always get town readed so soon.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #267 (isolation #45) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:02 am

Whats a full town read? and what can change it ? only scum slips ?

how are they in a full town read state if you never pressured them or interacted with them directly about their reads?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #270 (isolation #46) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:23 am

In post 268, Persivul wrote:It's D1 and there are 12 other players. I don't see a need to pressure them all today.

this is literally the worst excuses whatsoever.

+ If you accusing me of lurking you can come out directly not just publishing noise. I was in bad IRL position as I stated before and I started my job of scum hunting with pressuring you. you didn't start it yet so far But you have strong town reads. this concern me.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #271 (isolation #47) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:23 am

In post 268, Persivul wrote:Anything.

anything what?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #276 (isolation #48) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:53 am

In post 273, Persivul wrote:Is it your experience that every player pressures every other player on D1?

I never said everyone should push everyone else. This is a clear misrepresenting of what I said. I said you have Strong town reads without doing the job. that's concerning...

Frozen Angel · Post Post #277 (isolation #49) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:56 am

In post 275, Persivul wrote:
In post 271, Frozen Angel wrote:

anything what?

Any scummy behavior. For instance, people asking questions to which the answer is obvious...

I think your attacking me with your second sentense. if that's it come out of shadow right now.

So by this I think you put people as town and try to find scum between them. this is wrong please consider changing it if your town. it must be vise versa.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #279 (isolation #50) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:02 am

Broseiden is someone who I really like to have a conversation with actually atm. he is inside the lurkers category.

Rob made a town read and pressured you. you made town reads and did nothing. that's the difference.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #281 (isolation #51) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:04 am

I'm w8ing for the response though.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #282 (isolation #52) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:04 am

and tell me 1 reason why your voting me and not asking any questions about me.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #286 (isolation #53) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:08 am

In post 283, Persivul wrote:Funny you don't mention that until I bring it up.

Funny becuase he is not here to make any conversation with?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #287 (isolation #54) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:09 am

In post 283, Persivul wrote:What in the world does Rob's pressure on
me
have to do with his town read of
Kittehs
?

I said it does? I asked him again about his reads and I'm w8ing for his response to talk about it more.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #289 (isolation #55) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:11 am

In post 284, Persivul wrote:
In post 282, Frozen Angel wrote:and tell me 1 reason why your voting me and not asking any questions about me.

Are you fucking insane?

I am.

In post 285, Persivul wrote:
In post 280, Persivul wrote:
In post 264, Frozen Angel wrote:Whats your current read on Ari and plotty kittens? I seriously don't like the way they got universally town readed so soon when there was no pressure on them.

And do you know what the check on that is?

I'll answer for you...the check on someone who is universally town read on D1 is that if they haven't been NK'd by D3, it's really suspicious.

lol. asking about why someone is universally town readed is scummy?

why?

+ seriously I'm under treatment. I'm emotionally broken - not logically insane. But yes I have mental issues.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #291 (isolation #56) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:12 am

your questions are definitely OMGUS. so your voting me because I asked you some questions and you don't see them fair?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #293 (isolation #57) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:13 am

lol your saying why I'm not attacking other 11 players at once? patient brother! Your defense is ridiculous.

Why you think me asking the same questions about others has a single damn relation to my push against you?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #294 (isolation #58) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:15 am

In post 292, Persivul wrote:
In post 289, Frozen Angel wrote:+ seriously I'm under treatment. I'm emotionally broken - not logically insane. But yes I have mental issues.

I mean no offense by this, but you probably shouldn't play mafia until you clear those issues up. Mafia fucks with sane people's heads at times.

I think I know what I'm doing. thx. my Issue has nothing to do with my play. just make me a bit offensive , and defensive at some points (which might lead to people consider me scummy because of my emotional posts) beside that I have no problem to play this game. it actually help me with my Issue.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #298 (isolation #59) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:19 am

But don't ever question my accuracy of reads ... if you want example go check my meta.

pedit : my case on you is considerably different from the case was already on you. plus your not in L2 or anything are you? so nah I'm not opportunistic (or I wouldn't question the top two everyones town read)

find better holes to discredit me. this shading won't work.

pedir :

as I said I wasn't actively playing this game till yesterday and its not the end of the game is it? I asked rup a question and I'm w8ing his answer. the other guy needs to post more before I can start sorting him out.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #299 (isolation #60) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:20 am

In post 297, Persivul wrote:Why did you claim that I'm not asking you any questions?

your not asking any questions about sorting me. your questions are simply about the pressure I brought on you.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #301 (isolation #61) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:24 am

Because their simply OMGUS!

:/ ok tell me what have you gained about me. bring them up.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #303 (isolation #62) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:29 am

In post 302, Persivul wrote:
In post 299, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 297, Persivul wrote:Why did you claim that I'm not asking you any questions?

your not asking any questions about sorting me. your questions are simply about the pressure I brought on you.

Sure. Here's one example. When clearly caught in a lie, instead of admitting it and retracting the charge, you move the goalposts.

what lie? and what?! I retracted what charge?!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #305 (isolation #63) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:34 am

In post 304, Persivul wrote:
In post 282, Frozen Angel wrote:and tell me 1 reason why your voting me and not asking any questions about me.

^^ Lie.

I said why

your not asking question about me

which you don't. stop misrepresenting me.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #307 (isolation #64) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:37 am

and I said why their not helping you to sort me out. you said their helping you to sort me out . I asked how. you said because I lied about the questions.

going back to loop. thx for the logical fallacy.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #310 (isolation #65) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:43 am

I asked you never asked questions about me THAT MEANS you never asked questions about sorting me !!!!!

the f?! why are you making a loop ? what did you get from those questions?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #312 (isolation #66) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:50 am

1 -

so you wanted to ask questions about how I'm doing in IRL ?! :/

2 - Then tell me how they helped you to sort me? what did you done to sort me?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #315 (isolation #67) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:13 am

In post 313, Persivul wrote:
In post 312, Frozen Angel wrote:1 - so you wanted to ask questions about how I'm doing in IRL ?! :/

No. Don't know where you'rte getting that from.

2 - Then tell me how they helped you to sort me? what did you done to sort me?

I already gave one example. When asked about the lie about questions, you moved the goalposts. You could have done other things - claim it was a mistake, blame the language barrier, claimed it was a reaction test. The answer you gave leads me to believe that you're town, but aggressive, arrogant, and with a language barrier. If you had claimed it was a mistake or a reaction test, I would have found that scummy. Blaming the language barrier would have been null.

1 - first about me if its not about sorting me then its about what?! :/ I'm not really following you here.

man your claiming you asked some questions about me . don't you? that those questions was not about defending yourself or calling my pressure bad , but about sorting me, yes?!

The point is your looping here. I asked you a simple question and your calling my simple question a lie! then I ask you a simple question and again you dodge that and call that a lie.

I'm done talking to you with logic. learn to talk logical first.

so your putting options beside me?! I asked a simple question. No I think I understood you completely so its not a language barrier case. Its not a reaction test. its a serious accusation I'm making here. it wasn't a mistake and I meant that question/accusation. I never moved the goalpost. my goal was pressuring you to see if you have anything behind your vote or not. I see nothing and I think I proved its nothing more than OMGUS.

I'm done here.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #316 (isolation #68) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:14 am

In post 314, Plottin Kittehs wrote:Please don't talk about ongoing games.

I just said my avatar change is ...

ohhhhhh...

whatever!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #318 (isolation #69) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:29 am

I'm w8ing for your catch up post

Frozen Angel · Post Post #319 (isolation #70) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:29 am

to be completed of course

Frozen Angel · Post Post #321 (isolation #71) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:38 am

In post 320, Persivul wrote:
In post 315, Frozen Angel wrote:I'm done here.

Likewise. I don't know if it's a language issue or if you're just a fucking idiot, but talking with you is painful.

you just insulted me didn't you?

You ....... dare to insult me?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #322 (isolation #72) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:41 am

I literally have nothing to say as I'm just exploding like a volcano.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #326 (isolation #73) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:55 am

and your voting me. please ....

Frozen Angel · Post Post #327 (isolation #74) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:12 am

In post 324, Plottin Kittehs wrote:This is my third game with Persivul. Mala's played with him a few times too. I wouldn't be surprised if most people have stronger reads on people they know than people they don't know.

he never said its a meta read. or a gut read. he just get me some posts and called them cane from town mindset and called you town for that.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #328 (isolation #75) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:14 am

In post 324, Plottin Kittehs wrote:This is town paranoia, but it's not productive on day 1. Most minis are 10:3 so if you're town (or pretending to be, but i'm townreading you) then from your perspective that's a 3 in 4 chance that someone else is town. Of course competent scum can look town but finding town is the flip side of the coin to finding scum and it is easier to do and if you have some townreads that you can work together with then you can do productive things even if later you get paranoid of them or if they turn out to be scum after all.

Based on 261 it seems you're more upset with Persivul's townread on Ari than his townread on us. The Ari read could be too easy, I agree, I'm not sure Ari's done enough to warrant it yet.

you know? you didn't got my points at all. I said I have no problem with sorting people. as I gave you a town read myself. I think he is not trying for his town reads. he just assume people town unless he find scummy things about them. I know its wrong. I'm sure its wrong.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #329 (isolation #76) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:15 am

I have nothing to sort arri at the moment based on that. I at best will call him null.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #331 (isolation #77) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:17 am

why your talking about probability of finding scum? I know I can find scum in day 1. I did that before in my little experience :

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=64429

read this and see my accuracy in reading

Frozen Angel · Post Post #354 (isolation #78) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:33 am

In post 352, Shiro wrote:Assuming I am correct it would mean that eithe rRob and Angel are scum together with Persi in sight as a target OR that Persi is scum.

so shiro your here at last trying to find the scum team with your first vote.

if Persi by any chance flips town your my next target.

whats your read on every one else? What makes you think there is a scum in our conversation with persi?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #356 (isolation #79) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:42 am

In post 355, Persivul wrote:
In post 354, Frozen Angel wrote:if Persi by any chance flips town your my next target.

Scum like to set up the next day's lynch.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #357 (isolation #80) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:43 am

its definitely not that

Frozen Angel · Post Post #358 (isolation #81) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:43 am

You ever saw my scum games?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #360 (isolation #82) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:23 pm

the other two question I asked?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #362 (isolation #83) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:26 pm

In post 361, KuroiXHF wrote:Frozen, for ease of rereading games sake, can you put all your thoughts in one message please? I feel this 15-page game could be a 10 or 11 pages...

ha?! your saying you wanna intentionally skim my posts?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #364 (isolation #84) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:29 pm

ok i think misread that. I hate walls :/ But I try to make longer posts instead of lots of short posts.

+ : that was an ongoing conversation. I couldn't combine most of the posts.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #366 (isolation #85) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:31 pm

post 364 ^

Frozen Angel · Post Post #392 (isolation #86) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:30 am

SURE AGAIN ANOTHER ..... ...... WHO WANTS TO META READ ME. LET ME FINISH ANOTHER GAME BEFORE THIS ONE.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #402 (isolation #87) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 4:44 am

I'm kind of tired to answer anything to people who assume my meta and try to judge me based on that. this is it. I can't take this anymore.

1 more mentioning anything about meta reading me and I will quit the game. I'm fucking here to play this fucking current game. I'm so damn sick of this amount of try for meta reading me based on wrong assumptions.

if there is anything you wanna ask me do it . if not I'm gonna take a break from mafia tonight because of another f... ongoing game.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #408 (isolation #88) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 4:53 am

I'm ignoring it then

Frozen Angel · Post Post #409 (isolation #89) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 4:54 am

In post 405, Rob14 wrote:I'm sorry, FA, but meta is a part of mafia and there's really no way to avoid it other than to use a different alt in every game. You can't expect anyone to obey your command to not use one potential method to figure out your alignment.

Yeah I can't expect every damn idiot who thinks know me to open their eyes. ok. (not talking about you persi)

Frozen Angel · Post Post #410 (isolation #90) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 4:55 am

I can't play this shit tonight.

coming back later

Frozen Angel · Post Post #421 (isolation #91) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 6:41 am

In post 420, Persivul wrote:Currently Frozen and I combined have more posts than everyone else combined.

this is exactly why I asked everyone why are they giving Ari free town credit!

this is what I was whining about when we started to talk to each other.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #423 (isolation #92) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 6:52 am

Frozen Angel · Post Post #428 (isolation #93) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:44 am

In post 426, KuroiXHF wrote:Frozen Angel: I was going to say slightly scum, until she started mentioning mental illness. I hate reading things like this because when we mention medical disorders or anything like that, it detracts from the game and makes the game more personal. As I've been in games that ended it people hating others, I really hate seeing fun games getting personal. Still, in the spirit of not thinking of this game being personal, I'll put her in slightly scummy territory.

forget mental thing. talk to me. why

Frozen Angel · Post Post #430 (isolation #94) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:01 am

cause I can answer about myself? and I'm town?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #431 (isolation #95) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:02 am

his read list is sooo weak. I feel its that. I feel its not that. I get that vibe , I have nothing to work on.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #435 (isolation #96) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:20 am

1 - i never dismissed or deflect any of his questions. he did that several times tough . (pointing to his circular reasoning there).

2 - being emotional is my personality. I'm tired of being accused of being emotional in all my fucking games.

3 -

really? the fact English is my FOURTH language is alignment indicative? if you believe its not why you even put that there?

4 - I said simply put it aside and talk to me. you find that alignment indicative as well?

you can start finding out by asking real questions. about my reads. But you didn't.

whats your idea about persival? you just said he is a town lean. why is he a town lean?

pedit : talking about "the first person you would lynch" you have a list?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #442 (isolation #97) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:36 am

In post 438, KuroiXHF wrote:1. If I'm missing something, please point it to me, but I think I remember what you're referring to me but he never seemed of having circular reasoning. Perhaps it sounded circular because it made logical sense - that phrase, "It's come full circle."

2. I don't mean to come across as rude, but it might help if you stopped acting emotional in all your games. If you see yourself getting worked up, take a deep breath. Before you post, ask yourself if there's a better way to phrase it. There are more effective ways to phrase something in most cases.

3. I never said your language was alignment indicative. In fact, I said I wasn't judging your language
wasn't
being used to judge your scumminess. I stated that because you've gotten a lot of crap and it may be because it is often difficult to read the message you're trying to convey. (I don't want to go too far off topic, but what are your other three languages?)

4. Your mental illness isn't really indicative of scum, but it makes things a hell of a lot harder. I don't want to be a dick and vote you because of something about you personally. (#433 I've mentioned I don't want games to be personal.) I gave my view and I've done a lot reading through the game and gathering my thoughts. Right now, I have what I have. I'm sure people would have questions for me and we would discuss them. What do you know? Someone asked me.

My thoughts on Persival were mostly derived by his interactions with you, but also by the rest of the town. He seemed to be very transparent.

And no, I don't have a concrete lynch-list, but I did mention who I find more scummy than others. I wanted to, and still might vote for Not_Mafia, but I have the worst feelings about Rob13 based on his style of playing and many of his comments.

@Persival - I know, but when it comes to day one, I go with what is most likely and I'd estimate it's about a nickel or a dime on every dollar for the mafia who intentionally get themselves in hot water.

1 - what about you ISO me and find that loop?

2 - Its me, everywhere. Its my way of living. a little hard to change. Thx for the advise btw.

anything else you want me to answer?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #444 (isolation #98) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:59 am

Iso is a thing up there beside the post number which will isolate my posts for you : http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p7512960

about languages : 4 , my own native lang (which is a secret!) , French , German and at last I tried to learn eng.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #472 (isolation #99) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:44 am

and what about me and persival fight ?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #478 (isolation #100) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:30 am

In post 476, Aristophanes wrote:Holy cow does she contradict herself a lot on Page 11 though :S This makes me really uneasy about the slot.

Ask me your questions instead of throwing shades.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #479 (isolation #101) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:30 am

and happy birthday

Frozen Angel · Post Post #482 (isolation #102) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:35 am

NO I'm just asking him to not Advertise I'm scum while he is not accusing me of anything and I can't answer because of that. I'm town and I want to have the chance to defend myself against any accusations.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #484 (isolation #103) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:49 am

I don't care about something been very popular. I hate when people talk about me not to me. and that's really annoying and the main part of my illness (which I know I shouldn't talk about but its it so I have no choice but to mention that - check my wiki because I told about that there as well).

Yeah maybe lurking wasn't the best word I meant he was definitely attacking me there. I just wanted a clarification.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #486 (isolation #104) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:05 am

Not pure Omgus. BUT not even close to the point of sorting me. his questions were about how I was pushing him. I asked him like 100 times what he learnt from those questions about me if they were intended to sort me and he couldn't show anything.

about Bro his /her last post was before the persi push of mine. I wanted to see his comments about that first.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #488 (isolation #105) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:13 am

I asked how those question helped him to reach the read. He didn't asked me anything to get the read.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #490 (isolation #106) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:26 am

No its fair to have a read on me after after all those conversation. I'm just concerned that he is posting and he has strong reads without interacting with others. his conversation with me was my try to sort him not his as well.

Well currently I'm concerned about the lack of try in this tread. no one is pushing no one! at this point I'm not sure about anything. Rob is townish because he is the only other one who tried to scum hunt.

about pers I think he is trying hard to show himself town. Which I can accept as town. I'm loosing inspiration to stay in his wagon atm , BUT I need to see others first. thats why I'm asking people about Rob/pers and I/pers in past few pages.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #515 (isolation #107) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:34 pm

Hello!

In post 506, BROseidon wrote:Huh, that's interesting...

Whats interesting about it?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #516 (isolation #108) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:36 pm

In post 501, KuroiXHF wrote:Posts 308-313, especially 308.

308 wan't my post and there is no question there. what do youwant me to answer for?

I never changed my goal post. I just picked myself as example of his not-trying to have scum hunting conversation with anyone and I showed why he is not doing that.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #517 (isolation #109) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:37 pm

BROseidon whats your current read on persival and how you reached to that conclusion ?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #530 (isolation #110) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:09 am

In post 528, Rob14 wrote:I can't say much more without giving away the tell, which I do not plan to do because it will remain useful in future games.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #608 (isolation #111) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:08 am

In post 607, Persivul wrote:
In post 599, Rob14 wrote:No, it's me telling you to back the fuck off before I replace out. Playing with you is like hitting myself in the head with a hammer repeatedly.

And now doubling down on AtE.

and ATE is alignment indicative?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #617 (isolation #112) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:23 am

In post 616, Persivul wrote:
In post 608, Frozen Angel wrote:
and ATE is alignment indicative?

Yes, it's generally considered scummy.

I'm happy with my vote on persival

Frozen Angel · Post Post #619 (isolation #113) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:24 am

I' not scum reading him because of hoppy votes davasto. whats your opinion about my case against him?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #622 (isolation #114) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:38 am

In post 620, Davsto wrote:
In post 619, Frozen Angel wrote:I' not scum reading him because of hoppy votes davasto. whats your opinion about my case against him?

Could you briefly sum it up in one post (or link me to a post where you did so) just so it's easier to find? Because it seems rather spread over your ISO

Not gonna help you. there is a conversation between me and Him about it <<

Frozen Angel · Post Post #624 (isolation #115) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:56 am

you lost it totally

Frozen Angel · Post Post #625 (isolation #116) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:57 am

My case is about he is not trying to sort people out - he stayed distanced and just making reads

Frozen Angel · Post Post #629 (isolation #117) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:20 am

I'm not sure ho should I react to that claim. SK's are hard to find but I'm literally can't be sure your town aligned because of that. I saw mafia investigators as well. plus your role is not confirmable until you find SK.

I can see an easy claim for scum to hide.

and a real town claim.

so I think I must ignore it. any more detail about your role?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #631 (isolation #118) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:28 am

you could be the sk himself

and by setup spec you can see if the game is multiball or not so nah I can see that

Frozen Angel · Post Post #632 (isolation #119) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:28 am

and 1 nk literally explains nothing

2 nk might confirm you a little bit.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #634 (isolation #120) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:32 am

In post 633, Soren wrote:Question is, would mafia!Persi claim FBI?

if he sure its multiball yes.

but I'm doubting that now. I must reread his post

Frozen Angel · Post Post #638 (isolation #121) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:45 am

well actually I'm considering this right now. your role might not be that unconfirmable I was thinking it is

UNVOTE: Persival

Frozen Angel · Post Post #640 (isolation #122) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:51 am

In post 639, Not_Mafia wrote:making such poor arguments

like?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #642 (isolation #123) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 7:02 am

oh that name thing argument...

and you think thats alignment indicative?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #644 (isolation #124) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 7:18 am

I don't know mastion but talah is really a solid logical person so yeah I kind of see what your saying. But I don't feel like voting for just it. You have any any better case about them?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #646 (isolation #125) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 7:21 am

What do you think about persival claim?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #651 (isolation #126) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:15 am

But why should we deal with him today if he is a probable SK?!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #655 (isolation #127) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:38 am

Paraphrasing is permissible as its been told in rules. I don't get it

Frozen Angel · Post Post #660 (isolation #128) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:48 am

I think persi is lying. I can't see that why should mod stop him from mentioning his flavour. that's just stupid. how he can role claim but not flavour claim?!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #661 (isolation #129) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:55 am

I reread everyone and still I can't find anyone to be more probable as scum as him

VOTE: Persival

Frozen Angel · Post Post #693 (isolation #130) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:46 pm

In post 662, Rob14 wrote:2) Why would you not want to lynch the SK? In all probability, the SK will just mean one more dead townie next night. As other players have mentioned, though, he could also be scum who knows it's multiball. For instance, imagine a situation where I game has two 2-person scum teams and a 9 person town. A 2-person scum team would know that there likely isn't an SK and likely isn't an FBI (2-person scum and an SK doesn't balance; 2-person scum and another scum team and an SK doesn't balance). And there's a million other scenarios as well.

well I thought he is a probable sk as well. but that's not for sure - and we have no clue about it. so I thought we might actually wanna try to lynch a probable mafia .

although after all the rereads I think he is lying so I don't like to disband this wagon

In post 669, Persivul wrote:I suggest looking for scum in {Rob, FAQ2, Frozen, Shiro}. Later.

Mod, please replace me.

cool. why you sure there is a scum there?! I'm town reading Rob and Shiro and FAQ seems null - scum lean atm so why you think ?

UNVOTE: Persival

In post 671, RadiantCowbells wrote:hi

VOTE: FA

only replaced into this game to lynch scum.

leggo

In post 672, Rift Adrift wrote:
RadiantCowbells replaces Persivul. Please welcome him!

ok ! VOTE: RC

In post 673, RadiantCowbells wrote:She's scum, let's lynch. Pls don't skip this lynch cuz she likes to N1 me.

OH MY GOD ! GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE RC.
I'm not scum!

the fuck are you talking about?!

In post 677, Not_Mafia wrote:Also, who do you plan to jailkeep tonight?

Why the Jailkeeper specifically? Why you asked him if he plans to jail keep someone. Vig wan't a sharper trap for him to slip?

In post 682, RadiantCowbells wrote:FA is scum. I was partnered with her in her first scum game on site where the two of us were together considered the townbloc of the last two days before we won.
Played more games with her than anyone else on time and have seen both of her alignments from both perspectives.

She is scum. I am not unvoting her as long as I am in this game.

GET OUT OF HERE

In post 686, RadiantCowbells wrote:idk this is slow work because it's hard to point to one thing and say this is why FA is scum.

I just know the way she operates, and I see it in her game.

To explain why I'm scumreading her you'd have to understand her game on the level I do.

I suggest lynching myself to prove my alignment then lynching her once I'm confirmed town.

I can try doing a case thing here but it's not going to mean much to anyone.

OMG ... your going to apologize soon RC. and confess you can't read me at all. SO DAMN SOON

yeah 1 v 1 ing me . so your just considering me as scum?! have fun with being wrong

actually I'm more confident about this vote : VOTE: Not mafia

that test wasn't fine. Why jailkeeper?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #694 (isolation #131) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:47 pm

In post 672, Rift Adrift wrote:
RadiantCowbells replaces Persivul. Please welcome him!

In post 673, RadiantCowbells wrote:I've read nothing besides FA's ISO, so I have no other reads.

She's scum, let's lynch. Pls don't skip this lynch cuz she likes to N1 me.

Make it happen boyz.

In post 677, Not_Mafia wrote:Also, who do you plan to jailkeep tonight?

In post 680, RadiantCowbells wrote:yeah, I'm going to jail FA because she's obvscum.

Better?

That was a fucking catch up post. yeah that's how your vote state change 3 times in 1 page catch up ...

Frozen Angel · Post Post #695 (isolation #132) » Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:25 pm

fucking old quotes ...

Frozen Angel · Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:07 pm

His scum game is also definitely similar to this.

don't town read him for his sudden tunnel on me : http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=64284

Frozen Angel · Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:39 pm

In post 691, Aristophanes wrote:Willing to give you a chance here.

VOTE: Frozen Angel

w8 a minute after my green flip your going to lynch RC don't you? Its like your setting up mislynches ...

Frozen Angel · Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:40 pm

or at least my mislynch ... your trying to show yourself you just wanna agree RC because of his meta read on me and just set a mislynch here

Frozen Angel · Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:42 pm

In post 702, Not_Mafia wrote:Frozen Angel seems to be flailing here

talk to me why jailkeeper?

Frozen Angel · Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:48 pm

In post 702, Not_Mafia wrote:Frozen Angel seems to be flailing here

plus That my TOWN meta under pressure . for everyone who wants to meta read me.

To RC (his distracted me from my welcome gif) :

Frozen Angel · Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:51 pm

In post 705, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 703, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 702, Not_Mafia wrote:Frozen Angel seems to be flailing here

talk to me why jailkeeper?

What does it matter?

You could have gone for more mafia/sk liked roles? maybe vig? why you chose a protective role?

Frozen Angel · Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:13 pm

In post 707, Aristophanes wrote:I've never heard "moving the goalposts" before so him using it directly after Pers as if it were his own idea gave me pause. I had forgotten to mention it though.

Can someone explain this whole "moving my goalposts" damn thing?! what the f.. am I accused of ? I never changed my goal while I was talking with pers there. I just exampled myself at the end of it as someone he never sorted while he was acting like he did.

And OK , Don't call me town for it! I Won't let you scum read me becuase of that. RC case on me is just his way of starting the game - I consider it null. Whats your case on me?!

Frozen Angel · Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:13 pm

In post 707, Aristophanes wrote:I've never heard "moving the goalposts" before so him using it directly after Pers as if it were his own idea gave me pause. I had forgotten to mention it though.

Can someone explain this whole "moving my goalposts" damn thing?! what the f.. am I accused of ? I never changed my goal while I was talking with pers there. I just exampled myself at the end of it as someone he never sorted while he was acting like he did.

And OK , Don't call me town for it! I Won't let you scum read me becuase of that. RC case on me is just his way of starting the game - I consider it null. Whats your case on me?!

Frozen Angel · Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:14 pm

^ please delete one mod (and this request as well) thx

Frozen Angel · Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:28 pm

In post 712, Shiro wrote:@Frozen

Ha my welcome gif was sooo much more enthusiastic

We have a Hydra with RC called "Elsa and Anna"

I said my sis a hi

Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 706, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 705, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 703, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 702, Not_Mafia wrote:Frozen Angel seems to be flailing here

talk to me why jailkeeper?

What does it matter?

You could have gone for more mafia/sk liked roles? maybe vig? why you chose a protective role?

A) Why would a vig out his target?
B) Again, what dies it matter I chose a protective role?

A) You weren't looking for targets you wanted to see if he slips or not.
B) Again you wanted a slip. why you tried to test him with something He will check before (to see his last person claim) unless something he might immediately slip for - because its near his real probable role?

Frozen Angel · Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:30 pm

And she will probably answer to my like this! :

like the way she started tunneling me even before replacing into game

Frozen Angel · Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:31 pm

I call RC a she when I'm referring him as Anna - don't get confused

Frozen Angel · Post Post #720 (isolation #145) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:21 am

In post 719, RadiantCowbells wrote:Ari's vote is the second most productive in this game.

hello! wanna talk to me?!

Because I'm town here, Are you?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #721 (isolation #146) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:23 am

What posts your scum reading this time?! because I feel bored from your death tunnel in every game.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #723 (isolation #147) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:56 am

For god sake!!!!

I'M TOWN

Frozen Angel · Post Post #725 (isolation #148) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:01 am

In post 724, RadiantCowbells wrote:no you're not.

don't be silly

Frozen Angel · Post Post #727 (isolation #149) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:17 am

I'M TOWN

Frozen Angel · Post Post #729 (isolation #150) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:20 am

Yes I am! :/

Frozen Angel · Post Post #730 (isolation #151) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:20 am

What the fuck are you trying to prove sis?!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #731 (isolation #152) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:21 am

You just randomly choose to buddy/tunnel me in your games!

I can't trust neither at all!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #733 (isolation #153) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:26 am

Your totally unreasonable while tunneling me.

I'm town. Open your eyes!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #735 (isolation #154) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:29 am

Frozen Angel · Post Post #740 (isolation #155) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 5:05 am

In post 736, RadiantCowbells wrote:I was just having fun, I hadn't actually read your ISO.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #750 (isolation #156) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 6:03 am

I have no idea what to think about that.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #752 (isolation #157) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 6:05 am

why is dave flip so important? can someone explain that please?

pedit : your a very damn manipulator. I won't town read you for that. I want to just assume its null.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #758 (isolation #158) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:00 am

I deny every associations with Rob. who is this guy anyway?!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #760 (isolation #159) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:05 am

I was joking. but siriously I hate being wagoned , tunneled , defended and meta readed. can I play dota instead of mafia!?:D

Frozen Angel · Post Post #762 (isolation #160) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:08 am

yeah , NK's are bad as well I forgot that.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #763 (isolation #161) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:10 am

RC you mind out in in newbie thread for being se together? I kind of did that for you already! but you need to do it yourself

Frozen Angel · Post Post #765 (isolation #162) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:14 am

why your w8ing for dav to flip. You (or/and Shiro(I guess)) said his flip will say us info about RC's slot. why is that?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #766 (isolation #163) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:15 am

lets play here!

think we lynched dave and he flipped town so?
think we lynched dave and he flipped scum so?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #770 (isolation #164) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:33 am

No that was Rob actually . sorry

Frozen Angel · Post Post #788 (isolation #165) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 6:04 pm

Can I sig that?!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #791 (isolation #166) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 6:06 pm

ok! I do that after the game!

But I'm town!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #793 (isolation #167) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 6:08 pm

not again!

I need to go somewhere!

we can talk about it at night ... But still I'm town

Frozen Angel · Post Post #803 (isolation #168) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:08 pm

Frozen Angel · Post Post #810 (isolation #169) » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:51 am

In post 808, Davsto wrote:Adaptive is bugging me though. Apparently my play wouldn't come from town because... I'm townreading someone they're not? Like, I'm not going to just blindly agree with everyone, if I have some reads of my own, then I'm going to defend who I think is town.

ok lets talk about this! what are your reads devasto? beside persival-RC slot ? what are your town and scum reads? can you please sort them for me?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #812 (isolation #170) » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:58 am

Frozen Angel · Post Post #816 (isolation #171) » Sun Jan 03, 2016 4:12 am

This is the best song of skillet (definetly) [Don't Argue] (Its just the best!)

Frozen Angel · Post Post #817 (isolation #172) » Sun Jan 03, 2016 4:22 am

Can anyone refer me to any of the not mafia posts that I can town read?! :/

Frozen Angel · Post Post #829 (isolation #173) » Sun Jan 03, 2016 6:40 pm

Ari why you suddenly get too comfortable with dave lynch? what am I missing here about him?

WHY he is definitely scum ROB?

whats the real purpose of this wagon? I can't see beside some policy votes and "he is going to give us information about others"

Don't get it wrong I'm not town reading him. Why should I scum read him?!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #834 (isolation #174) » Sun Jan 03, 2016 6:47 pm

so you think we should lynch dav because your town reading Rob? this is kind of crazy.

any other reads ari?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #862 (isolation #175) » Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:31 pm

Well actually I like soren vote as well. I need to reread to see his posts again.

Frozen Angel · Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:58 am

In post 875, Not_Mafia wrote:I can go for Soren I guess VOTE: Soren

whats your read on dave?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #879 (isolation #177) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:35 am

In post 878, KuroiXHF wrote:I'm not sure what the basis is of the Soren lynch.

Sorry for the inactivity, but I am still here.

so find out. read people reason about it.

your ok with a dave lynch instead?

if yes why?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #882 (isolation #178) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:14 am

In post 880, KuroiXHF wrote:There's a lot to go through and I'm doing my due diligence, but I can't quite find it.

I am OK with a Davsto lynch because he's shown to not care about the game nor a willingness to place it as a priority. His posts have also reeked of scum. I've considered changing to another lynch, namely Not_Mafia, but we need a lynch and don't have the time so I'm going with what's viable.

we have plenty of time left.

lets talk about Not Mafia. whats your read on him?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #885 (isolation #179) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:25 am

In post 883, KuroiXHF wrote:Any time someone says, "I'm town," it makes me think they're scummy; at the very least, it adds GREATLY to their scumminess on my scummometer 2000. Both RC and Frozen Angel do this, but one did it once over the weekend while one did it ~five times.

I do that in all my games. and I'm usually more town when I do that.

Rc do that in nearly all my games with him and only in half of them he is scum

move on

Frozen Angel · Post Post #886 (isolation #180) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:25 am

In post 883, KuroiXHF wrote:Any time someone says, "I'm town," it makes me think they're scummy; at the very least, it adds GREATLY to their scumminess on my scummometer 2000. Both RC and Frozen Angel do this, but one did it once over the weekend while one did it ~five times.

I do that in all my games. and I'm usually more town when I do that.

Rc do that in nearly all my games with him and only in half of them he is scum

move on

Frozen Angel · Post Post #894 (isolation #181) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:25 am

nope its 2/10

Frozen Angel · Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:30 am

In post 909, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 894, Frozen Angel wrote:nope its 2/10
I don't recall you being this happy to wagon jump in past games...

oO what past game?! I'm always wagon happy!

and what wagon are you talking about? plotty? I like more pressure on that slot as well as on yours

I just don't like about the way game started when you got universally townreaded.

Frozen Angel · Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:46 am

In post 918, Aristophanes wrote:And I don't disagree with pressure, but you seem to be trying to distract everyone from the Dav lynch in any way possible.
And as it gets closer to phase end, pressure is more likely to lead to either a rushed wagon or a regretted lynch.
Phase end is always Wibbly-Wobbly so increasing that is usually better for scum than town.

Also, Disliking them (and myself) for being townreads is horrible on D1, as has been mentioned before.
Later in the game, I get it. But at this point the paranoia and wine is far more likely to hurt town than help us.

1 - I want to make sure everybody states their reasons if their lynching dave. I want his flip - if not scum - be informative
2 - Its definitely not better for scum than town
3 - at this point its not paranoia. I want pressure on you and kittens . I want to evaluate my reads on you and that slot. this is incredibly scummy that you want me to stay silent and just lynch someone

Frozen Angel · Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:03 am

In post 927, Aristophanes wrote:3 - I'm all for the pressure. Pressure and talking is good. Pressure away! But I don't think a pressure wagon is a good idea at this point. Ask questions. Hold them accountable, but keep in mind the potential consequences.

I'm just telling people that they shouldn't trust you blindly in next days if I didn't made it. its what a town player should do... if you don't tell your reads each day your not playing for your wincon.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #978 (isolation #185) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:57 pm

In post 971, Rob14 wrote:I'm the Third Doctor and my role is equivalent to that of a Jailkeeper (it has a fancy name, though).

Counter claiming - I'm the fifth doctor and my role is like jailkeeper (we can't all be similar can we?)

LYNCH THE SCUM

VOTE: Rob

Frozen Angel · Post Post #979 (isolation #186) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:16 pm

Lynch the scum

end of story

Frozen Angel · Post Post #982 (isolation #187) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:11 pm

2 more votes to lynch the scum ...

Frozen Angel · Post Post #993 (isolation #188) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:25 pm

there is a kind of sanity issue about my jailkeeping ...

Frozen Angel · Post Post #994 (isolation #189) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:26 pm

I'm definitely the jailkeeper. don't play with words please.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #996 (isolation #190) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:28 pm

HE CLAIMED CHE IS JAILKEEPER

HE CAN'T BE

END OF STORY

Frozen Angel · Post Post #999 (isolation #191) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:29 pm

ok. vote obvious scum

Frozen Angel · Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:33 pm

No your not.

I counter claimed someone. Its simple vote him or vote me.

I am town jailkeeper. he is definitely lying.

Considering that a fake claim is the most absurd reaction to the current situation

Frozen Angel · Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:48 pm

I explained That "LIKE" word , Its about the sanity Issues of

I'm not fake claiming - I'm counter claiming

So stop with this word issues or imaginary fake claim assumptions and lynch the scum

YOUR CONSIDERING HIM THE REAL JAILKEEPER DON'T you?!

lets lynch me and lynch him tomorrow. He is definitely scum.

pedit : go to hell. I'm town . I never play scum this recklessly. why should I force a mislynch by claiming if I'm scum? I'm town insane jailkeeper and he is definitely lying.

Frozen Angel · Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:51 pm

Its as simple as that. I'm 1 v 1 ing him. lynch me or lynch him

Frozen Angel · Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:54 pm

In post 1007, Adaptive Heap wrote:If you're Town Insane Jailkeeper why wouldn't you consider the possibility of two? Or a Sane Town version?

And how does an "Insane" modifier work with Jailkeeper anyway?

2 town Jailkeeper?!!!! oO You really can't consider this a possibility can U?! that means 2 slots mafia can't KILL at night.

Insane means I can't choose who I'm targeting at night.

Frozen Angel · Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:54 pm

In post 1007, Adaptive Heap wrote:If you're Town Insane Jailkeeper why wouldn't you consider the possibility of two? Or a Sane Town version?

And how does an "Insane" modifier work with Jailkeeper anyway?

2 town Jailkeeper?!!!! oO You really can't consider this a possibility can U?! that means 2 slots mafia can't KILL at night.

Insane means I can't choose who I'm targeting at night.

Frozen Angel · Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:56 pm

and there is another reason. town can't have all this protective roles. I have another role as well which Just make it impossible for him to be a town protective.

Frozen Angel · Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:04 pm

I never said Its a protown role. Its something I am aside with another role which makes it impossible for him to be a jailkeeper.

I don't want to full claim if you understand why!

pedit : @RC I understand. ROB needs to be lynched immediately. I'm considering AH as a possible scum . I won't talk about my role anymore because I might get compromised for scum.

Frozen Angel · Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:05 pm

In post 1017, Adaptive Heap wrote:followed by settling on a townlynch.

ROB LIED

why should he fake claim?!