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Post Post #5650 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:02 am

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In post 5647, pisskop wrote:You say Ive been deathtunnelling mollie, but want claim that Im settuing mollie up by scumreading her? you want to have/eat your cake.

huh?

- You deathtunnel mollie all game
- mollie pushes the nero lynch
- nero gets hammered
- pretty much the whole town agrees that nero is scum cause of the RC counter
- So now you have to temporarily drop ur deathtunnel cause a red nero makes mollie look pretty good.
- But you actually know that he will flip green and can continue your deathtunnel the next day. Hence the quoted posts.
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Post Post #5651 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:05 am

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whatever floats your boat ragaholic.

I was pushing mollie for his shit nero push since he started ignoring nero's Qs.

If you arent going to actually read and consider the possibilites just stop trying. I dont have the energy to go back and keep retrieving all the posts about how shitty a nero lynch would look for mollie, but your cherry picking is noted.
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Post Post #5652 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:06 am

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hey PK, why is dwlee scum?
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Post Post #5653 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:07 am

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Hey, fuck off and read
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Post Post #5654 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:08 am

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Im not going to hold your dick for you just so you can lynch me and go 'opps'.
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Post Post #5655 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:23 pm

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Pisskop, me going to be so sad if you are scum man.
Like really sad.
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Post Post #5656 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:37 pm

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I mean, this is totally how I act as scum, and not like I did in kill all townies.
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Post Post #5657 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:42 pm

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In post 5656, pisskop wrote:I mean, this is totally how I act as scum, and not like I did in kill all townies.

his doesn't inspire confidence my friend.
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
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Post Post #5658 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:49 pm

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Post 1 of the Grand Errant Catchup: What was the Scum Strategy?


In post 5631, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 5616, Errantparabola wrote:Hey guys. There's a helluva lot of pages to work through so give me around 2 days.
Looking forward to playing with you all.


YES



I'm just gonna assume that this is because I'm an awesome person and mollie thinks I'm super cool even though we have interacted like never.
Speaking of people I've interacted with. I don't place very much stock in meta but I know that I'm WAY behind all you guys in how much content you have to sort me, so go ahead and check out my games on my wiki if that helps. I know that dwlee and pisskop probably have a decent picture of my scumgame. Fire and titus have seen both my town and scum play.

Context of this post: What I'm working with is JJD's synopsis as well as the quote below to make a few observations.

In post 5621, Dwlee99 wrote:It makes me super nervous that rc generally hard busses her scim partners and went after jarjar and titus and keyser.


So, first about JJD's synopsis.
If there's only been one kill a night, then I'm just going to say DN is probably not SK, but that might be subject to change after I actually read the damn game.
The scum team have less resources and in return they have knowledge. This is a pretty obvious observation that I'm sure you're all aware of.
Now context going into D2. A chunk of those resources is now hanging from a tree. Nero claims Rolecop. RC decides he's gonna make himself a prime lynch target on D3 by claiming cop (at least that's what I'm getting happened from the synopsis? How fast did the RC lynch happen?)
So knowing that RC made this further resource sacrifice, would RC sacrifice EVEN MORE resources to grab some towncred from hard bussing that he's just gonna throw away later?
I personally don't think so.
Maaaybe if it was on D1. Dwlee, did RC go after JJD, Titus, and Keyser on D1 mainly or D2?
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Post Post #5659 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:13 pm

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Post 2 of the Grand EP Catchup: Everyone's Current Reads


I see why people think there's an SK now. RC was scumcop.

This post is for me because I want to see how reads now compare to reads earlier and see if I can catch that clear progression as well as transparency in thought.
I also want to see the context of interactions between folks.

Fire:
In post 5323, Firebringer wrote:Town
Pisskop
Pirate Mollie
Everyone Else
Titus-Never know where she goes.
Death Note
RadiantCowbells
Scum

Thinks DN is SK
Early pushes on RC
Pisskop is town and Dwlee is neutral

JJD:
{Titus, Keyser, mollie}
{Errant, Nos}
{DN}
{Fire}
{pisskop, Dwlee}
thanks for answering my question

DN:
Expresses support on pisskop/Dwlee for a lynch
town on Keyser
That's about it for recent reads.

Titus:
pisskop > Dwlee
Thinks DN is also possible for lynch
keyser is town

Nos:
In post 5464, Nosferatu wrote:no one will lynch dwlee today. No one will lynch mollie today. No one will lynch Titus today. No one will lynch DN today. I don't want to lynch Keysor. RC will be lynched today. There is nothing short of a blatent-I-meant-to-post-this-in-scum-pt-scumslip that will prevent RC's lynch. The only thing that will happen is a delay of this lynch. Might as well just get the day over with.

voting pisskop so is apparently fine with that.

Dwlee:
keyser is town
proxies vote to titus (so he thinks is town?)
thinks DN is SK
uneasy about jjd and nos

pisskop (whose # of posts in this thread exceeds my total post count):
mollie can be scum
consider titus for scumteam B (I am not sure what this means)
other reads i cannot garner from iso

Keyser:
about dwlee: "THIS IS SCUM"
cannot see anything else but I am getting a bit lazy

mollie:
insistent that we lynch pisskop
"we are lynching deathy over my dead body"
thinks dwlee is just young hmm
not happy about fire
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Post Post #5660 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:14 pm

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shit. I said grand errant catchup and then grand ep catchup.
i'm disproportionately frustrated about that.
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Post Post #5661 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:28 pm

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In post 5650, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 5647, pisskop wrote:You say Ive been deathtunnelling mollie, but want claim that Im settuing mollie up by scumreading her? you want to have/eat your cake.

huh?

- You deathtunnel mollie all game
- mollie pushes the nero lynch
- nero gets hammered
- pretty much the whole town agrees that nero is scum cause of the RC counter
- So now you have to temporarily drop ur deathtunnel cause a red nero makes mollie look pretty good.
- But you actually know that he will flip green and can continue your deathtunnel the next day. Hence the quoted posts.

In post 5651, pisskop wrote:whatever floats your boat ragaholic.

I was pushing mollie for his shit nero push since he started ignoring nero's Qs.

If you arent going to actually read and consider the possibilites just stop trying. I dont have the energy to go back and keep retrieving all the posts about how shitty a nero lynch would look for mollie, but your cherry picking is noted.

Remind me about this interaction later.
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Post Post #5662 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:28 pm

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More Pisskop votes please.
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Post Post #5663 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:31 pm

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In post 5631, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 5616, Errantparabola wrote:Hey guys. There's a helluva lot of pages to work through so give me around 2 days.
Looking forward to playing with you all.


YES


plz be town. are you town? plz be town.

I don't think I am crazy about pisskop.


We 100% agree on Pisskop. Tomorrow we might fight a bit (as I am leaning Pisskop/Dwelee) but today, we ride.
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Post Post #5664 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:35 pm

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In post 5658, Errantparabola wrote:
Post 1 of the Grand Errant Catchup: What was the Scum Strategy?


In post 5631, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 5616, Errantparabola wrote:Hey guys. There's a helluva lot of pages to work through so give me around 2 days.
Looking forward to playing with you all.


YES



I'm just gonna assume that this is because I'm an awesome person and mollie thinks I'm super cool even though we have interacted like never.
Speaking of people I've interacted with. I don't place very much stock in meta but I know that I'm WAY behind all you guys in how much content you have to sort me, so go ahead and check out my games on my wiki if that helps. I know that dwlee and pisskop probably have a decent picture of my scumgame. Fire and titus have seen both my town and scum play.

Context of this post: What I'm working with is JJD's synopsis as well as the quote below to make a few observations.

In post 5621, Dwlee99 wrote:It makes me super nervous that rc generally hard busses her scim partners and went after jarjar and titus and keyser.


So, first about JJD's synopsis.
If there's only been one kill a night, then I'm just going to say DN is probably not SK, but that might be subject to change after I actually read the damn game.
The scum team have less resources and in return they have knowledge. This is a pretty obvious observation that I'm sure you're all aware of.
Now context going into D2. A chunk of those resources is now hanging from a tree. Nero claims Rolecop. RC decides he's gonna make himself a prime lynch target on D3 by claiming cop (at least that's what I'm getting happened from the synopsis? How fast did the RC lynch happen?)
So knowing that RC made this further resource sacrifice, would RC sacrifice EVEN MORE resources to grab some towncred from hard bussing that he's just gonna throw away later?
I personally don't think so.
Maaaybe if it was on D1. Dwlee, did RC go after JJD, Titus, and Keyser on D1 mainly or D2?

I can't remember. Just look at stuff when you reread.
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Post Post #5665 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:40 pm

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In post 5641, pisskop wrote:
In post 5607, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 5604, pirate mollie wrote:we are lynching deathy over my dead body

This is why PK is a better lynch than Dwlee people. Cause PK is pushing for Dwlee and Dwlee is pushing for DN. DN isn't lynchable today.

If PK is town and Dwlee is scum then Dwlee pushes PK as an easy mislynch.

If Dwlee is town and PK is scum then PK pushes Dwlee as an easy mislynch.

Scum Dwlee pushing DN only really makes sense if PK is scum also in which case lynching PK is still fine.

how shitty.

Id have a hemorrhage if I tried to shoehorn somebody that hard based on hurt feels


lol

I love irony.

vote pisskop for justice.
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Post Post #5666 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:43 pm

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Hey, Dwelee, why aren't you voting Pisskop? We can layout moonlogic before I hammer. :nod:
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Post Post #5667 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:47 pm

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In post 5659, Errantparabola wrote:mollie:
insistent that we lynch pisskop
"we are lynching deathy over my dead body"
thinks dwlee is just young hmm
not happy about fire


you aren't reading are you :(
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Post Post #5668 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:49 pm

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Post 3: Page 1 to 20

Okay, Keyser's posting seems similar to his townposting in Bringer mafia
And also they look objectively town.
However nothing he's done so far early game is a particularly difficult position for scum to take. Jussayin

Considering this:
In post 5639, pirate mollie wrote:pisskop is voting dwlee now that he can not get away with deathtunneling on my slot


I'm going to take into account this:
In post 115, pisskop wrote:Im approaching you like I would mollie. Which is to sit back and let you hang yourself if scum.


And try to look at pisskop's progression

In post 157, pisskop wrote:who is hop?

lol

I'm liking DN's early game.

In post 241, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 240, Wake1 wrote:
In post 158, Dwlee99 wrote:
Well if it's not your meta to vote hop then it's scummy.


VOTE: Dwlee99

Except meta as you know is manipulable, and forgets that players do try new things regardless of alignment.

p. awful vote, tbh. This is literally the worst vote I've ever seen.

ugh. dwlee's reactive play is no good.
but i'll have to read more to see if it's actually scum indicative.

RC flip -> I think FA might be town -> I think mollie might be town.

pedit: mollie i made that post before I read the game. So I guess that answer to that question would be yes.
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Post Post #5669 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:51 pm

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In post 5651, pisskop wrote:whatever floats your boat ragaholic.

I was pushing mollie for his shit nero push since he started ignoring nero's Qs.

If you arent going to actually read and consider the possibilites just stop trying. I dont have the energy to go back and keep retrieving all the posts about how shitty a nero lynch would look for mollie, but your cherry picking is noted.


AHAHAHAHA
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Post Post #5670 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 2:15 pm

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VOTE: Pisskop

I'mma pretend i took that deal yesterday, titus~
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Post Post #5671 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 2:31 pm

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Post 4: Page 21 to 40

Wicked caught davesaz's Dwlee post that I had similar feelings about. Of course, hindsight is 20/20 so I can't really say I read the davesaz post organically.

just realized wicked was dead.

So far Nos has sidelined a lot, same with cow -> fire.

Keyser has said a lot but doesn't give me those town feelings.
There's really little real pressure coming from Keyser.

thinking town mindset right now.

JJD is towny.

I dislike

I could see davesaz push on dwlee maybe being a bus. I don't think that the reason that he unvoted dwlee was good.
This could mean one of two things. Bus or bad fake case to make seem town

Reads of alive players as of page 32
{JJD}
{FA (mollie), pisskop}
{Zulfy (Titus)}
{DeathNote}
{Dwlee, Keyser, nos, cow (fire)}

keyser's response to JJD is good. I like it.

Zulfy's catchup is alright. doesn't ring any bells
Note: I understand that this is a really light catchup that doesn't go in depth. I might ISO some specific folks after I make a general catchup but don't expect too much.

I started liking keyser at around the same time as JJD liked. JJD continues a strong early game that resonates with me.

I'm taking a break for now but from now on I'm going to make posts about bigger sections of the game because otherwise i'd be posting a lot.
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Post Post #5672 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 2:32 pm

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God bless ig you read all the posts.
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Post Post #5673 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 2:43 pm

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In post 5672, pisskop wrote:God bless ig you read all the posts.


you and rc did a fantastic job of making the game unreadable!
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Post Post #5674 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 2:44 pm

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Yes mollie. And you didnt have a part in it.
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Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.

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