Open 623 (White Flag) - A Moment in Time (Over)

[Drixx]

Vote Count 1.6

AlwaysInnocent {0} -

Yonom

,

TheCow

,

Something_Smart

,

Firebringer

Cerberus v666 {0} -

Something_Smart

,
Viva La Gloria {0} -

AlwaysInnocent

,
PhantomCobalt {0} -

AlwaysInnocent

,
pistachi0n {0} -
Firebringer {0} -

Something_Smart

,
SirCakez {4} -

RhazhBash

, pistachi0n,

AlwaysInnocent

,

Something_Smart

,

Extrapolated Eagle

, Viva La Gloria, Droog,

Something_Smart

, Firebringer
Something_Smart {5} - SirCakez, Titus,

TheCow

, PhantomCobalt, Yonom, Extrapolated Eagle,

Firebringer

TheCow {0} -

Always Innocent

Titus {1} - AlwaysInnocent
Extrapolated Eagle {1} - Something_Smart
Droog {0} -
Yonom {0} -

PhantomCobalt

,


Not Voting (4): Cerberus v666, TheCow

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch or No Lynch.

Deadline is (expired on 2016-01-27 22:00:00) from now, or January 27th, 10:00 PM Eastern (GMT-5).

Prodding: N/A
Replacing: N/A

[pistachi0n]

I am noting how you stopped changing your vote when people gave you heat for it; I'm also noting how you were quick to vote EE when I pointed out it was odd that you weren't.

aw man, you figured me out
it wasn't just because you gave me heat, you also made a good point

It seems like a point I shouldn't have had to make, considering how you were playing earlier. I'm starting to scumread you but I'm going to wait until I see a votecount before I decide whether I'm going to vote for you or not.

[Something_Smart]

I mean, there's two ways to place your vote. You can vote your top scumread, or you can vote the one out of your scumreads who you think is most likely to be lynched. I'm still figuring out when is the appropriate time for each, and the only way I can gauge that is by others' reactions.
Out of curiosity, which do you think is stronger?

[pistachi0n]

I mean, there's two ways to place your vote. You can vote your top scumread, or you can vote the one out of your scumreads who you think is most likely to be lynched. I'm still figuring out when is the appropriate time for each, and the only way I can gauge that is by others' reactions.
Out of curiosity, which do you think is stronger?

Which one? Scumread?

I'm going to vote you if you aren't at L-1. If you are, I don't want to hammer yet. That's why I'm waiting for the vote count to be posted.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Vote Count 1.5

AlwaysInnocent {0} -

Yonom

,

TheCow

,

Something_Smart

,

Firebringer

Cerberus v666 {0} -

Something_Smart

,
Viva La Gloria {0} -

AlwaysInnocent

,
PhantomCobalt {0} -

AlwaysInnocent

,
pistachi0n {0} -
Firebringer {0} -

Something_Smart

,
SirCakez {4} -

RhazhBash

, pistachi0n,

AlwaysInnocent

,

Something_Smart

,

Extrapolated Eagle

, Viva La Gloria, Droog,

Something_Smart

, Firebringer
Something_Smart {5} - SirCakez, Titus,

TheCow

, PhantomCobalt, Yonom, Extrapolated Eagle,

Firebringer

TheCow {0} -

Always Innocent

Titus {1} - AlwaysInnocent
Extrapolated Eagle {1} - Something_Smart
Droog {0} -
Yonom {0} -

PhantomCobalt

,


Not Voting (4): Cerberus v666, TheCow

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch or No Lynch.

Deadline is (expired on 2016-01-27 22:00:00) from now, or January 27th, 10:00 PM Eastern (GMT-5).

Prodding: Pistachi0n
Replacing: N/A

I mean, there's two ways to place your vote. You can vote your top scumread, or you can vote the one out of your scumreads who you think is most likely to be lynched. I'm still figuring out when is the appropriate time for each, and the only way I can gauge that is by others' reactions.
Out of curiosity, which do you think is stronger?

Which one? Scumread?

I'm going to vote you if you aren't at L-1. If you are, I don't want to hammer yet. That's why I'm waiting for the vote count to be posted.

He's at L-2

Vote count was two posts ago.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Oh I'm an idiot i forgot he edits his posts with a vote count. :/

Apologies. It was sitting in a window waiting for me to hit submit for a couple hours. I got distracted by something. If you see a pending VC for more than a few minutes, feel free to drop me a PM. ~Drixx

[pistachi0n]

VOTE: SomethingSmart

I think we'll get information from this lynch. If SS flips town, I'm going to be looking at Titus for scum tomorrow. If SS flips scum, I'm going to pursue AI.

[Titus]

VOTE: SomethingSmart

I think we'll get information from this lynch. If SS flips town, I'm going to be looking at Titus for scum tomorrow. If SS flips scum, I'm going to pursue AI.

Regardless of the flip, you need to be looked at. This post screams "I am just going to push whoever was wrong."

Pretty sure I am right but this post is icky.

[Cerberus v666]

Vote Count 1.6

AlwaysInnocent {0} -

Yonom

,

TheCow

,

Something_Smart

,

Firebringer

Cerberus v666 {0} -

Something_Smart

,
Viva La Gloria {0} -

AlwaysInnocent

,
PhantomCobalt {0} -

AlwaysInnocent

,
pistachi0n {0} -
Firebringer {0} -

Something_Smart

,
SirCakez {4} -

RhazhBash

, pistachi0n,

AlwaysInnocent

,

Something_Smart

,

Extrapolated Eagle

, Viva La Gloria, Droog,

Something_Smart

, Firebringer
Something_Smart {5} - SirCakez, Titus,

TheCow

, PhantomCobalt, Yonom, Extrapolated Eagle,

Firebringer

TheCow {0} -

Always Innocent

Titus {1} - AlwaysInnocent
Extrapolated Eagle {1} - Something_Smart
Droog {0} -
Yonom {0} -

PhantomCobalt

,


Not Voting (4): Cerberus v666, TheCow

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch or No Lynch.

Deadline is (expired on 2016-01-27 22:00:00) from now, or January 27th, 10:00 PM Eastern (GMT-5).

Prodding: N/A
Replacing: N/A

Are you having doubts Titus? This is the first time I've seen you display uncertainty about this read.

Also, I agree that the post pistachion made is icky, but it is exactly how people are going to react. Just how people are.

[Titus]

Not uncertain, but merely capable of realizing alternative scenarios based on garbage facts.

I have to. Cops do that all the time.

[Viva La Gloria]

My vote's on Titus, not SirCakez.

Catching up now.

I don't see any vote or unvote by you since you replaced in. The vote from your slot is from your predecessor. ~Drixx

[Viva La Gloria]

Hi. Reads are still the same. Bye.

Bad Titus.

[Titus]

Hi. Reads are still the same. Bye.

Bad Titus.

Oh I am fine. You want me to scumread someone else, make a case.

[Viva La Gloria]

Pistachi0n, why the hell are you jumping on the biggest wagon instead of voting something that could flip scum, aka Titus?

You're agreeing that she's probably scum and voting her wagon? The hell?

[Titus]

Pistachi0n, why the hell are you jumping on the biggest wagon instead of voting something that could flip scum, aka Titus?

You're agreeing that she's probably scum and voting her wagon? The hell?

Where do you get pistachion thinks I am scum?

[Viva La Gloria]

VOTE: SomethingSmart

I think we'll get information from this lynch. If SS flips town, I'm going to be looking at Titus for scum tomorrow. If SS flips scum, I'm going to pursue AI.

The SS wagon is terrible.

Vote 1: SirCakez, who's been scumreading SS since the joke post 21. Also, I'm still scumreading Cakez, so I'm biased because of that.

Vote 2: Titus, also scumreading SS since the beginning, claiming he was caught scum early on. Same thing with the 21. I don't agree with her reasoning for why SS was scum--it was the infamous post 21, and "telegraphing," but didn't give thorough reasons besides those weak ones.

Vote 3: PhantomCobalt, because of "useless theory fluff." Didn't give an example of what the useless theory fluff was, didn't push beyond that.

Vote 4: Yonom, because SS was jumping to conclusions too fast and too randomly. I don't think this was as bad as the other votes, but I disagree with it. I think it's an issue of playstyle--we have people like Cerb who are stingy with their votes and don't use unless almost certain, and we have players like SS who move the vote around to indicate who their current top scumread is.

Vote 5: Extrapolated Eagle, who voted SS after he stopped scumreading Cakez. The vote seems largely arbitrary, EE is scumreading SS for a lot of the same reasons he's townreading AI. SS doesn't seem like someone trying to blend in.

Top scum-reads are Cakez, AI, and Titus.

from these.

[Firebringer]

I feel like a straight liar, I will get to this game and do catch up tomorrow.
Promise or policy lynch me!

[Something_Smart]

No colors this time. It's symbolic of my approaching death.
Town
Cerberus
droog
AlwaysInnocent

Weak town
Titus
Viva
Pistachi0n

Null
Phantom

Weak scum
Cow
Fire
Yonom

Scum
SirCakez
Eagle

Even though SirCakez and EE are my top scumreads if one flips scum the other is more likely to flip town (unless the white flag gambit). I know you guys are going to want to lynch Titus tomorrow but I believe EE to be a better lynch. If EE is scum I could see very easily an EE/Fire team.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Stop this insane lynch. Or else I'm going to kill you all.

[Something_Smart]

AI, as my official bodyguard, I have a task for you. Rather than threatening the people on my wagon, why don't you hunt among them for players who secretly know I will flip town. Obviously at least half my wagon is town, probably more. So don't waste your time defending me. That does nothing to help the town. Rather, you can get a head start on catching scum day 2 since you already know my flip.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Titus is the scum pushing this mislynch. So we need to get her lynched instead of you.

[Something_Smart]

EE is pushing my mislynch hard too. Do you see specific scum motivation in Titus's posts? Really, what I see is more stupid confidence in an RVS tell, and I think ridiculous confidence is a towntell (no, SirCakez, that doesn't mean lack of confidence is a scumtell). I see much more scum motivation in EE's posts. I find it noteworthy how EE in his catchup would rather lynch Rhazh/Fire than me. Then without mentioning Rhazh/Fire at all, he starts pushing me based on crap logic. It makes me think he is scum, and if he is, then Fire is his partner.
AI your thoughts?

[AlwaysInnocent]

VOTE: SomethingSmart

I think we'll get information from this lynch. If SS flips town, I'm going to be looking at Titus for scum tomorrow. If SS flips scum, I'm going to pursue AI.

Bad Pistachi0n. Lynching for information is bad. You lynch because you want to lynch scum. Information is secondary.

Don't lynch obvious town because you want "information". That is scummy as fuck.

[Something_Smart]

I think she thinks I am scum, and is rationalizing by saying, "even if he isn't, we'll have a good chance at a scum lynch tomorrow." Now this thought process is fine, but I think the choice of target is bad.
@Basically everyone: Why are you townreading EE? And why can you not see that when I flip town he will be obvious scum? Please at least give Titus the benefit of the doubt and lynch EE first.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Titus the benefit of the doubt? *laughs hard*