Open 623 (White Flag) - A Moment in Time (Over)

[AlwaysInnocent]

It's not so much that this game is a mindfuck game. It is just that everyone seems crazy, or scum, or with their head up their asses.

This isn't useful commentary. It's a generic statement. What's your point?

It means that I can't get a proper read on anyone.

[AlwaysInnocent]

It's not so much that this game is a mindfuck game. It is just that everyone seems crazy, or scum, or with their head up their asses.

This isn't useful commentary. It's a generic statement. What's your point?

It means that I can't get a proper read on anyone.

What makes this game different from any other? Point out specifics.

It's just a general impression. Besides, it's late. Get off my back.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Eagle, you seem to have an answer for everybody's play. It seems that you know what is going on a little too well.

This is pretty bad. Just because he's making analyses he "knows what's going on too well"?

Nice strawman, but the way he defends people seems to betray a certain insight into the role distribution (i.e., scum).

Similar to you defending random people for crappy reasons.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Eagle, you seem to have an answer for everybody's play. It seems that you know what is going on a little too well.

This is pretty bad. Just because he's making analyses he "knows what's going on too well"?

Nice strawman, but the way he defends people seems to betray a certain insight into the role distribution (i.e., scum).

Similar to you defending random people for crappy reasons.

Wait a minute. Because I have extensive reasons for my reads... I'm scum?

I notice you jumping in everywhere defending whomever for town creds.

[AlwaysInnocent]

AI, how are the things you're saying helping town at all?

First of all, I don't like certain people here. I want to make that clear.

Second of all, it is better to say things that aren't necessarily helpful than to do things that are damaging town, e.g., voting Something_Smart, like you did.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Eagle, you seem to have an answer for everybody's play. It seems that you know what is going on a little too well.

This is pretty bad. Just because he's making analyses he "knows what's going on too well"?

Nice strawman, but the way he defends people seems to betray a certain insight into the role distribution (i.e., scum).

Similar to you defending random people for crappy reasons.

This is an open setup. everyone should know the role distribution. This is white flag. Game started with 3 goons and 10 vts.

You didn't actually think I was serious when I asked you to roleclaim? It was a joke.

Besides, it has nothing to do with this. I am saying that it seems that he has complete knowledge of the game, as if he knows everyone's roles.

Why do I have to explain this?

[AlwaysInnocent]

KAAG, hopefully you can make sense of this game with your reasoning abilities. There's a lot of buddying and whiteknighting going on and it is hard to see who is authentic and who isn't.

[AlwaysInnocent]

So KAAG is an alt then? You've played together AI?

P.S. your post is pretty high on the buddying...

I don't know if KAAG is an alt? I don't think so.

I'm very authentic, though.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Yes, we have played together. Our game just finished.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Yes. I think one of you is probably scum. It seems implausible that this is TvT.

[AlwaysInnocent]

This means that if you can prove to me that you are town (I don't know how you could do that), then I would be voting for Firebringer without hesitation.

But this is an ideal situation.

[AlwaysInnocent]

To be clear, the only read I have that I'm relatively sure on is Cerberus as Town. Every other one is just a lean, and subject to change as more content appears. If I'm wrong about you or someone else, convince me.

I had the same impression at first, but I am not so sure anymore about Cerberus.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Read List 2.1

{AlwaysInnocent}

{KAAG}

{Viva La Gloria}

{Cerberus v666, Karnage}

{pistachi0n}

{Titus, SirCakez, Firebringer}

{TheCow, Eagle}

No explanation. Screw you.

[AlwaysInnocent]

@KAAG,

I don't see how anyone isn't townreading Cakes. To me, he is the most obvious scumhunter out if everyone here. We tend to be in the same place regarding most our reads and he's pushing the things I would except for Viva.

You must be scum. No way you are this gullible.

[AlwaysInnocent]

And yeah Droog unvoted me pretty quickly. Suggesting I would shoot him as scum after he unvoted me easily is absurd.

Not really. Eliminating all potential threats makes a lot of sense as scum.

[AlwaysInnocent]

If I was scum and wanted to get rid of a threat, why wouldn't I shoot someone like you who has been consistently scumreading me?

Maybe because you think I'm scumreading everyone? Because I'm all over the place? Because it is too obvious?

I don't know. You tell me. I don't know why you did what you did.

[AlwaysInnocent]

No, but seriously, why did you do it?

[AlwaysInnocent]

I won't judge you. Just tell me why.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Come on, SirCakez. We demand the truth.

[AlwaysInnocent]

AI weren't you townreading me awhile ago? Wheres the shift....almost seems opportunistic.

I said that one of you or Titus has to be scum, so you are both natural suspects. This is not TvT, that is all I know. Are you deliberately misrepresenting what I said?

[AlwaysInnocent]

But, I don't think it is SvS either. One of you is town and the other is scum. So even though you are both suspects I am hesitant to vote for either of you.

Hence my vote on Eagle.

[AlwaysInnocent]

But, I don't think it is SvS either. One of you is town and the other is scum. So even though you are both suspects I am hesitant to vote for either of you.

Hence my vote on Eagle.

This seems like poor logic to me. If one is scum and the other is town, why not flip one and if town, fluorescent the other?

I would rather give myself some more time to sort them than to lynch in the wrong order.

[AlwaysInnocent]

How is that bad logic? I would say it is the only rational thing to do, given my assumptions.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Because A) you may well be scum, and B) if we do mislynch, you are the best mislynch.

Hey! Every mislynch is bad at this point.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Well, I'm sure that's incredibly useful information, without a reason.

I can't read SirCakez as town and your reason for doing so makes little sense to me: he's just sheeping you.

Why do you think Droog, who had basically already gone inactive, was NK'd? (Not trying to be rhetorical here: genuine question)

It could be as simple as him being inactive. Inactive players can be unpredictable.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Do you think we can get any useful information out of the N1 kill? I'm skeptical. Scum choose to kill for all sorts of reasons. This is actually something I agree with Titus on.

Probably not. But sometimes it helps to do NKA anyway. It causes people to react to it, and this may give some insight into how genuine they are.

[AlwaysInnocent]

KAAG is right that scum probably had a reason to kill Droog, but it is hard to find out what the reason is with the limited information that we have. There are so many possibilities. Of course, since there are no PRs, there will be no PR-hunting, which makes it more likely that people are being killed because they get in the way of scum one way or another. But he might as well have been killed because he was inactive and therefore unpredictable.

[AlwaysInnocent]

others murder for day talk dynamic.

Can you elaborate on this?

[AlwaysInnocent]

Yeah. Titus' "town bloc" feels fake as shit.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Do you think we can get any useful information out of the N1 kill? I'm skeptical. Scum choose to kill for all sorts of reasons. This is actually something I agree with Titus on.

I don't think you can be sure, but it's just one little clue in a sea of clues.

The analysis that led to the D1 lynch:

"He made a comment in RVS that wasn't obv!joke, then said he was joking. SCUM!"

So...y'know, ANY analysis beats that!

Ha.

[AlwaysInnocent]

I somewhat agree with Viva's paranoia. The "town bloc" you have set up really smells fishy, so I would be suspicious of anyone in it as well. I would just be a bit less radical about lynching everyone of that bloc.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Titus STILL defending Yonom.

I was townreading Yonom as well. Karnage replaces Yonom, right?

I think if Titus is scum, then she will townread all her scum buddies, but, of course, she will also buddy actual townies. This creates a pool of suspects but where the scum are hidden by the presence of townies.

[AlwaysInnocent]

If Titus is scum then she successfully buddied the hell out of me which would be sad.

Remember our Jungle Republic game? You kept townreading Expedience, when I kept saying he was scum. He tried to buddy me as well, but I didn't fall for it. In the end, when it became convenient for him, he suddenly started a wagon me and got me lynched.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Titus STILL defending Yonom.

I was townreading Yonom as well. Karnage replaces Yonom, right?

I think if Titus is scum, then she will townread all her scum buddies, but, of course, she will also buddy actual townies. This creates a pool of suspects but where the scum are hidden by the presence of townies.

Yes.

Derrrrp... Lynch scum reads not people who might be scum if a townie is scum like wtf...

Hey Titus, do you see a vote on you currently? From me that is.

[AlwaysInnocent]

If Titus is scum then she successfully buddied the hell out of me which would be sad.

Remember our Jungle Republic game? You kept townreading Expedience, when I kept saying he was scum. He tried to buddy me as well, but I didn't fall for it. In the end, when it became convenient for him, he suddenly started a wagon me and got me lynched.

Wow, now if this isn't fear mongerring, holy shit. That game has like zero to do with me.

Yeah. It has nothing to do with you, but everything with SirCakez' mistaken townread. If he is town, I want him to be at least a little more skeptical about his townread right now.

Why haven't you voted Fire again?

Because I have established that one of you is scum and the other is town. At the moment, I am not sure which one it is. So it is probably better to focus on other scum, until I get a better read on both of you. In this way, either town-Titus or town-Firebringer is protected.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Vote Firebringer if you want. I am not convinced yet. Perhaps you should try harder to convince me.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Vote Firebringer if you want. I am not convinced yet. Perhaps you should try harder to convince me.

Your attention to detail is lacking. I already am voting him.

I never said that you did not already vote for him.

You're already not townreading Firebringer.

So what? I think I have been clear about why I am not voting him.

Why should I suppose you're town reading the game wrong as opposed to scum?

You tell me. You are asserting that my reads are incorrect because they don't match yours, but that is hardly objective. The only thing that you know, if you are town, is that I would be wrong about you.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Let's suppose you're right and it is T v S.

Why suppose that I'm right? You should agree with this without a doubt.

[AlwaysInnocent]

No. The way you talked about Firebringer makes it seem that you had no doubt about it. But good to know that you are capable of acknowledging uncertainty.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Enough with the lies. It doesn't make me townread you in any way, you know.

[AlwaysInnocent]

The only thing that you're right about is the lurking of Firebringer in this situation. And just for that I would lynch him.

Except that you're on the wagon and I don't trust you.

[AlwaysInnocent]

AI weren't you townreading me awhile ago? Wheres the shift....almost seems opportunistic.

[AlwaysInnocent]

AI your paranoia is really anti town because it's keeping you from having solid reads on anyone. It's alright to be wrong, just take a stance for once. I would do a quick iso of someone if you aren't sure on them, it helps a lot.

I mean, seriously, your reason for voting me is that I have analyzed the game and have reasons for my reads instead of shooting in the dark like far too many people here.

Well, it's hard not be paranoid when you are surrounded by manipulative freaks.

No offense.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Anyway, here is my fucking stance.

VOTE: Firebringer

[AlwaysInnocent]

AI do you think Fire's lurking is indicative of town or scum?

You can take my vote as an answer to that question.

[AlwaysInnocent]

It is not unlikely that Firebringer is scum. If he flips scum, then Titus is cleared.

And probably SirCakez too.

[AlwaysInnocent]

The possibility that they are both scum is ruled out. I know that they were very enthusiastic once when they were both scum, but then Titus was killed by the vigilante, I believe. They would want to play it out together. I'm sure of that.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Anyway, here is my fucking stance.

VOTE: Firebringer

How the fuck did you let Titus sway you by arguing that you lynch a town player and give reads in twilight?
Has anyone paid attention to your reads lists thus far this game?
No. Scum are monopolizing the discussion. One of us dies tonight. We get forgotten.
We are running out of players willing to vote her and the people townreading her are staying alive.
Vote Titus or Cakez, I swear to god.

Firebringer should get ready to defend himself if he is town.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Anyway, here is my fucking stance.

VOTE: Firebringer

How the fuck did you let Titus sway you by arguing that you lynch a town player and give reads in twilight?
Has anyone paid attention to your reads lists thus far this game?
No. Scum are monopolizing the discussion. One of us dies tonight. We get forgotten.
We are running out of players willing to vote her and the people townreading her are staying alive.
Vote Titus or Cakez, I swear to god.

When I said that people were manipulative, I was also talking about you.

[AlwaysInnocent]

I am starting to come around on AI. His posts are weird to me. Really don't get the Sir Cakez thing. Is it really just that he agrees with me?

What's weird about them? Be specific. What is it with SirCakez?

[AlwaysInnocent]

Firebringer should get ready to defend himself if he is town.

Hell no, I am not defending this shit.

Be very ashamed if you are town then.

[AlwaysInnocent]

AI bothers me regardless of your alignment too.


Thoughts on Cerb?

Well, you bother me too.

Come on. Take a stance on me. Don't just say I'm bothering you. Say what you think I am. Am I scum or not?

[AlwaysInnocent]

Oh. This is my new read list.

{AlwaysInnocent}
{Everyone else}

[AlwaysInnocent]

Oh. This is my new read list.

{AlwaysInnocent}
{Everyone else}

{Firebringer}

FTFY

It was a parody on your "read list", in case you didn't notice.

[AlwaysInnocent]

It was a parody on your "read list", in case you didn't notice.

Thanks, I totally didn't get it.

My fix was a parody of how poor your reads are. How you switch them on a instant to fit your agenda and how obvious scummy it appears.

I usually don't switch reads in an instant. My read on you gradually developed. I think I said you were town on D1. Then during D2 I came to the conclusion that you or Titus would be likely scum. Lurking didn't help your case. So I switched my vote to you.

Is it not interesting that your read on me changed the moment I voted for you? When I was townreading you, you seemed quite content. You never cared about my reads on other people.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Is it not interesting that your read on me changed the moment I voted for you? When I was townreading you, you seemed quite content. You never cared about my reads on other people.

Not really, I had a null on you before (if it was town it was weak) I was skeptical of you when you had a town read on me for what I thought was not much.

You mean I didn't give any reasons? Why do you complain? You usually say that every read of you is "gut".

Then as day progressed I saw you switching reads to fit the mood of the game at the time (classic scum move) so my read turned to scum.

I feel that this is inaccurate. I don't switch my reads to "fit the mood of the game".

[AlwaysInnocent]

I do think that Firebringer's responses are authentic.

Titus was highly confident of Firebringer being scum a few pages ago. Even complaining to me that I should be voting him because it was so "obvious". Now she is already backing down on that. She is just fucking manipulating this game, and she may even be manipulating SirCakez (or he is part of the scum team).

VOTE: Titus

Go to hell, Titus.

[AlwaysInnocent]

I'm manipulating you in your own self interest.

This makes you sound like an abusive prick.

[AlwaysInnocent]

I might be an abusive prick.
I don't deny it.
But I'm an abusive prick who is going to win this for town, if you help me.

Usually when people tell you that, they don't want you to admit it, but actually not be it.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Viva is both very arrogant and very rude which I think is why people don't want to sheep him.
Fire, Karnage, KAAG and Cerberus's votes need to move to somewhere that's getting lynched today.

Viva is probably town, but that doesn't make him less manipulative. Yuck.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Viva is both very arrogant and very rude which I think is why people don't want to sheep him.
Fire, Karnage, KAAG and Cerberus's votes need to move to somewhere that's getting lynched today.

Viva is probably town, but that doesn't make him less manipulative. Yuck.

If you read Day 1 my push for Titus was a lot more palatable.
I'm ramping up as I realize that it's going to take more to get this lynch.
When she gets lynched and the game is cracked wide open,

you'll thank me for how hard I'm working for this.

[AlwaysInnocent]

That's basically a scumclaim.
Cakez is tacitly acknowledging that my lynch is right but saying that people aren't lynching correctly because I'm annoying them.
This town refusing to lynch obvious scum is annoying me, don't see me throwing the game over it.

Whether he is scum or not, he is right that it actually harms your goal. It is not so much that you annoy people, but that your arrogance and rudeness makes it hard for people to trust you (even if people think you're town, they might still be put off by the way you handle things).

[AlwaysInnocent]

I had a weird dream last night and all I can remember is Titus, a knife, and the color red. This means at least one of four things:
1. Titus is scum and has the blood of droog on her hands
2. Titus kills scum and will have their blood on her hands
3. Titus is town and will die tonight
4. I have weird dreams that have no relation to the game at all.

Are you claiming cop?

[AlwaysInnocent]

Because I am already the bulletproof cop.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Do we have the time and votes to move to Karnage? I'm all for it.

Who was Karnage replacing again?

[AlwaysInnocent]

I remember myself townreading Yonom.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Thanks, TheCow. For another lolhammer.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Some people are always ready to hammer. This is why when these people are in the game you shouldn't put anyone at L-1 unless you're ready for them to be hammered.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Don't give them the opportunity to hammer and they can't fuck up the game. It's pretty simple actually.

[AlwaysInnocent]

I'm starting to believe that SirCakez is just killing off his enemies during the night.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Yeah those night kills are made to paint me as scum.

No, it's probably you hiding behind WIFOM.

[AlwaysInnocent]

AI: where do you stand on everyone at this point? All you've said today is the bit about sircakez.

Alright.

I am suspicious of SirCakez for being on two town wagons, and townreading people like Titus.
I am suspicious of Titus for pushing two town wagons (one of them being obvious town), and townreading people like SirCakez.
I am suspicious of TheCow for lolhammering two townies.

And finally, I am suspicious of you for being so engaged into this game, but as far as I can see, you have not voted in this whole game yet. I don't like how you townread one of the most anti-town players in this game.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Cerberus who do you want to lynch?
AI what do you think of Karnage?

What is your read on Cerberus currently?

I will be looking into Karnage later. I haven't really paid much attention to him yet.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Right. He is directing the lynch, but seems to be afraid to get his hands dirty himself. We're all giving each other a hard time and are super-unforgiving, so I suppose that some scum would not want to get involved.

[AlwaysInnocent]

AI: where do you stand on everyone at this point? All you've said today is the bit about sircakez.

Alright.

I am suspicious of SirCakez for being on two town wagons, and townreading people like Titus.
I am suspicious of Titus for pushing two town wagons (one of them being obvious town), and townreading people like SirCakez.
I am suspicious of TheCow for lolhammering two townies.

And finally, I am suspicious of you for being so engaged into this game, but as far as I can see, you have not voted in this whole game yet. I don't like how you townread one of the most anti-town players in this game.

I agree with everything here but you trying to divide SirCakez and I.

I too was bothered by Cerb's lack of stance on the plan that I threw out to have certain voters on TheCow. He only answered half the question.

How do you feel about a Cerberus lynch?

[AlwaysInnocent]

I've also noticed no ones talking about pistachion, except Titus with her comment about a potential pistachion,(someone else, I don't remember who), me team that's just standing by and letting town implode.

EE, SirCakez, thoughts there, assuming you guys are still around?

Not sure about Pistachi0n, but her townread of TheCow bothers me. On the other hand, Firebringer townread TheCow as well, and he flipped town. So I guess it's possible to genuinely townread TheCow.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Viva, what was your read on Cerberus again?

[AlwaysInnocent]

I'm not going to vote for Cow. Also, I don't see what it's supposed to prove anyway--i expect cow to flip town.

Why? Who else are you unwilling to vote for, why so certain about them, and who do you WANT to lynch? With the obligatory why.

I don't want to vote TheCow because the people I've seen lolhammer usually ended up as town VIs. I want to lynch Titus, you know this. I think the interaction between the two of you has been out of character, I think it's likely she's scum. Right now, Cow is the obvious mislynch.

If Titus is scum, then Cerberus is likely scum, too, and vice versa.

[AlwaysInnocent]

VOTE: Titus

[AlwaysInnocent]

Hm. True. A hammer would be too soon.

UNVOTE: Titus

[AlwaysInnocent]

Because I'm pretty sure we would be lynching this today regardless.

That's the wrong mindset.

[AlwaysInnocent]

All right then. Still want a lynch inside of {Titus, Karnage, Cow}. I'm open to a Cerb lynch as well now though.

Why the facepalm?

[AlwaysInnocent]

Because "the wrong mindset".

Please explain how rushing lynches because you think they are inevitable is the right mindset for town.

[AlwaysInnocent]

viva and cakez are both probably scum. viva for his tunnel vision for lynching titus and cakez for his jumping from one lynch candidate to another. just seems to eager for a lynch (as evidenced by his wanting to hammer Titus)

Hell, no. At least one of them is town.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Yes because literally no one else but Titus has expressed interest in lynching Cow.

But if you want to lynch Titus and TheCow, and you see that Titus wants to lynch TheCow, then do you think this is bussing or that one of them is actually town?

[AlwaysInnocent]

I think all townies are playing awful right now. Including myself. This probably has a lot to do with scum playing town leader, which is why I look at Titus and SirCakez.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Viva is definitely town. Rude town perhaps, but town nonetheless.

[AlwaysInnocent]

I think it is best to think everything through carefully. The probability of Titus being scum is high, but we cannot permit any more mistakes. Next mislynch brings us to lylo.

[AlwaysInnocent]

I can't be scum with Titus. Not sure why Cerb is parking his vote on me.

Who said you were scum with Titus? And of course you can't be scum with her, because she's town. And my vote is parked on you for reasons I have given previously in the thread.
Speaking of which, wtf guys? Why are we sitting here and letting fucking thecow lurk through another day?

I want to lynch you more every time I see you post. Either you're scum buddies with Titus or you're buddying her.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Titus, do you agree with Cerberus that your play is "suicidal"?

[AlwaysInnocent]

Titus, do you agree with Cerberus that your play is "suicidal"?

Note, her play as a whole isn't suicidal. Her play in 1007 was, and she should have expected to hang for it.

So, her play as a whole isn't "suicidal", in which case your entire argument is rendered moot.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Stating intent to hammer.

[AlwaysInnocent]

AI: No, you're missing the point! It's that *that* particular play WOULD NOT be made by scum!Titus. Period. It would not happen, not without her having extensive knowledge of the play of every player in the game.

Well, you still have not convinced me. You should try harder. The clock is ticking. Tic, tac, tic, tac.

[AlwaysInnocent]

its weird that my hammers are being called "lolhammers", but people are trying to use them against me -- why aren't they being called quickhammers?

The first time you quickhammered, you townread Something_Smart. Suddenly you said "fuck it", and hammered him anyway. This is what I call a lolhammer. A quickhammer (while being bad) can be well motivated and consistent with the hammerer's play. A lolhammer is just bad in every sense.

[AlwaysInnocent]

its weird that my hammers are being called "lolhammers", but people are trying to use them against me -- why aren't they being called quickhammers?

The first time you quickhammered, you townread Something_Smart. Suddenly you said "fuck it", and hammered him anyway. This is what I call a lolhammer. A quickhammer (while being bad) can be well motivated and consistent with the hammerer's play. A lolhammer is just bad in every sense.

My point exactly.

How is that your point?

[AlwaysInnocent]

Reiterate for me: what's the case being made against me? My meaning should already be quite clear.

Saying I'm scum for lolhammering is as lolzy as the hammer itself.

Are you denying you were lolhammering or not?

[AlwaysInnocent]

Yes and no. Hammering a player is the single most satisfying action one can take, outside of gladiating or dayvigging.

Days 1 and 2 had grown stagnant, so I ended them.

So hammering for the sake of it. That's just awful.

Imagine chess players doing that. "Oh well, the game has grown stagnant. Let's just do a random move for the sake of it." It's how you lose the game. It isn't any different in Mafia.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Titus. Let's lynch cakez. Like it's the best way. I promise.

You're scum.

[AlwaysInnocent]

I've had enough of this.

I've stated my intent to hammer. A day or so has passed. Nobody has been able to convince me that Titus is town during this time.

Her track record is awful. The way she recklessly pushed a Firebringer lynch, who flipped town, when she should have known better (they know each other quite well).

[AlwaysInnocent]

VOTE: Titus

RIP

[AlwaysInnocent]

Too late. It has been done.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Next time don't try to arrange alternative lynches with someone who is at L-1 and is capable of talking themselves out of difficult situations, while someone else has stated their intent to hammer. This was the only way to ensure that Titus couldn't drive another mislynch.

[AlwaysInnocent]

@ai how about this, how about next time you look and see if MAYBE you can figure out what's really going on and don't just quickhammer cuz you feel like it.

It is not a quickhammer. It is a hammer. I stated intent. A reasonable amount of time had passed. After that I summarized my reason for voting her.

[AlwaysInnocent]

This is totally different from:

"I think Something_Smart is town."
5 minutes later: "Eh, fuck it." *hammers anyway*

[AlwaysInnocent]

Anyway, now would be the proper time to provide some reads on everyone. Possibly two of them: one assuming that Titus is town and the other assuming that Titus is scum.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Note: I do expect Titus to flip scum, but I will not pretend to be 100% confident.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Kill Calexico tomorrow, regardless of what Titus flips, she's had her buddies lynch her because she wouldn't bus them herself. I'm going to die and he's going to wifom you to death but don't believe it just lynch him.

I will take this into consideration, but saying that you're going to die tonight is a bit odd. You don't know that.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Read List 3.1a (Assumption: Titus flips

scum

)

{AlwaysInnocent}

{Viva La Gloria}

{TheCow}

{Karnage, pistachi0n}

{SirCakez}

{Cerberus v666, Eagle}

Read List 3.1b (Assumption: Titus flips

town

)

{AlwaysInnocent}

{Viva La Gloria}

{Karnage, SirCakez}

{TheCow, Eagle, pistachi0n}

{Cerberus v666}

[AlwaysInnocent]

I am sorry to inform you that I have decided to replace out of any games I am currently in. I really need to focus on my studies. I hate doing this (I am generally opposed to replacing out), but I don't see any other way. I simply do not have the time for it and I cannot keep fooling myself that I can manage it. It is unfair to the other players.

This means that I will be gone for a few months or so. I may still post now and then, but I will not be participating in any games for a while.

I wish you all the best. I will definitely come back to play again when I have more time. I always enjoyed playing with you and I am sure I will enjoy it again in the future. It is rare to have found a place where I don't hate anyone.

Again: I sincerely apologize (especially to the moderators). In retrospect I should not have joined any new games at all.