Open 627: Mexican Standoff [endgame]


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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 8:06 am

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@Titus: OK, I'll accept that. I still doubt everybody feels that wat though, but whatever.

So, tell me.. is it better to go into the night unannounced, then IF I survive I come out to say whom I've protected (= confirmed town)?
Or do I announce my target beforehand, so the scum will either be forced to out one of their own or refrain from killing (or even target me) to create WIFOM about my target's alignment. (In this scenario they will be forced to either kill me if I'm t○7rgeting a townie or not to kill at all if I'm targeting one of them, thus no info provided but one townie lives for one more day).

Also,
@mod: Do we get flavoured kill results (i.e. gun = mafia, dismembered body = WW & knife = SK)?
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 8:17 am

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@Rask, Why texcat? I don't remember him well.

@Almost, It is anti-town as fuck for me to answer that. I will answer in post game or dead chat. If you're town, I give scum a road map. If you're scum, I would be assisting with your fake claim.

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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:02 am

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In post 573, Mad King Ashnard wrote:VOTE: Texcat
Not finished reviewing but from who I've looked at so far I feel good about this.


Not sure what all you are reviewing, but you can ISO me and ALL of my predecessors in about 30 seconds.
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:24 am

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In post 577, texcat wrote:Not sure what all you are reviewing, but you can ISO me and ALL of my predecessors in about 30 seconds.


Mybe that IS the reason they're scum reading you?
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:28 am

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Votecount 1.14



Mad King Ashnard
- (3) Kain Tepes, Almost50, davesaz
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- (3) KuroiXHF, Aneninen, Texcat
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- (2) xtoxm, Burning Crystal
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- (2) kop, Mad King Ashnard
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- (1) Acryon
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- (1) Extrapolated Eagle
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- (1) Fire Starter



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Day 01 Deadlne is (expired on 2016-03-01 09:00:00).


In post 575, Almost50 wrote:@Titus: OK, I'll accept that. I still doubt everybody feels that wat though, but whatever.

So, tell me.. is it better to go into the night unannounced, then IF I survive I come out to say whom I've protected (= confirmed town)?
Or do I announce my target beforehand, so the scum will either be forced to out one of their own or refrain from killing (or even target me) to create WIFOM about my target's alignment. (In this scenario they will be forced to either kill me if I'm t○7rgeting a townie or not to kill at all if I'm targeting one of them, thus no info provided but one townie lives for one more day).

Also,
@mod: Do we get flavoured kill results (i.e. gun = mafia, dismembered body = WW & knife = SK)?

No, all kills may have any flavor on them, but are functionally undifferentiated.
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:05 am

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Good. I personally dislike flavor being indicative at all of the game.
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:19 am

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In post 565, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:This part stood out as the super fake part. He makes sure everyone knows he's drunk so he seems vulnerable and he can post freely seeming like he doesn't actually know who scum is or anything

I'm doing the same as town and trust me, my drunkposts are much worse.

In post 568, texcat wrote:Sorry, this still looks like a claim from scum. I would expect the real Bodyguard to be more familiar with the scenarios he was in. Especially if he claimed to study them.

In post 569, davesaz wrote:I expected a different role, which would have ruled out PGO as a possibility. Look more carefully at setup 12. (pedit: ninja'd)
If he is a bodyguard, I'd prefer we not lose that role
. It's the only sliver of a chance to get more than one openly revealed cop result.

I still don't believe his claim but whatever.
It's also possible that he's indeed a bad-town and if so, he must be a planned counter for the real scum.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Davesaz

In post 573, Mad King Ashnard wrote:VOTE: Texcat
Not finished reviewing but from who I've looked at so far I feel good about this.

Why?
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:35 am

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In post 580, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Good. I personally dislike flavor being indicative at all of the game.


Why? What's there to hate about flavoured kills being indicative of certain alignments existing in the game?

From my own PoV only scum would hate that. We get 2 kills and we still don't know if it's a Mafia+SK or Mafia+WWs (at least that's what the case would be for the majority of us). Hell, we get one kill and we assume scenario 5 only to find out the MAFIA did a gambit of a no kill and the other killing role/group did the NK.

So, with all due respect: Walk me through your process of thought for disliking this to be the case.

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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:37 am

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It's not alignment indicative. It's a personal preference. I don't think flavor should be game related.
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:53 am

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In post 583, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:It's not alignment indicative. It's a personal preference. I don't think flavor should be game related.

I meant necessary for the game. Whatever.
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:56 am

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Bad replace and of everyone who voted almost50 he was most shallow about it. Weak in general and I wonder what he would be doing today if the fakeclaim didn't happen (and gave an easy target).
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:22 am

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VOTE: Aneninen
I have a reason for wanting the bodyguard to be preserved. You really need to pick another target. Immediately.
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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 12:58 pm

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VOTE: Anenien



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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:15 pm

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Hey K who shall not be called Kuribo and my perpetual thorn in my side and Rask, let's take a jump into the absurd and do this just cause I'm like totally sober drunk. (That's Titus bracing the absurd.)

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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:10 pm

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and my perpetual thorn in my side


Eh, I've definitely said worse about you.
As it happens I'm not scumreading Adenine, though Raskol is, so we're probably not going to vote that unless nothing else can happen.
I greatly agree with Raskol's choice in Tex. What's your read on the slot?
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:11 pm

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In post 589, Viva La Gloria wrote:
and my perpetual thorn in my side


Eh, I've definitely said worse about you.
As it happens I'm not scumreading Adenine, though Raskol is, so we're probably not going to vote that unless nothing else can happen.
I greatly agree with Raskol's choice in Tex. What's your read on the slot?


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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:30 pm

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I could but my obvtown reads are pushing Anenenien. Tex is not likely to give us reaction, so he's more of a lynch if there's nothing better to do.

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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:41 pm

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In post 591, Burning Crystal wrote:I could but my obvtown reads are pushing Anenenien.

What kind of reasoning is this?
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:41 pm

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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:46 pm

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Titusonian brain trust of town power.

Seriously, my scumreads aren't getting traction. I'm not explicitly townreading Anenien. We need wagons. Too many chefs spoils the broth.

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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:49 pm

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Or maybe you're defending your partner texcat?
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:51 pm

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Prodding xtomx and kain tepes
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:55 pm

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Kuroi get in here. You are a man of good judgement and refined tastes; surely you will see reason.
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:55 pm

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In post 595, Mad King Ashnard wrote:Or maybe you're defending your partner texcat?


Don't break my heart Rasky. I wanna think y'all are town. Stuff like this doesn't work.

Dave and Almost are obvious town to me. You're kinda townish, I get close to wanting to follow along with you and you attack me for sheeping bigger townreads rather than actually pushing your case.

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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:59 pm

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beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.

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