beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop. Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
1. When I brought up PL, Heat responds with 114117, 162, and 204 -
When looking at it, I still see a "Ircher doesn't look genuine here, so I'm going to test him" type motive from Heat here. Regardless of the case, I see a genuine reason for Heat to express suspicion of me here, and that healthy suspicion leads to a townread.
2. The associative case of 194 by Ras also leads to a townread.
3. 198 does not look like scum asking scum questions. -
Again, what I see motive wise here is Heat wants to know why Ras gives him a bare townread. I don't see any hidden pretexts here.
4. Early on, AI expresses a scumread of Heat for "opportunistically voting Ircher". The logical reaction as conducted by Heat is to scumread AI, esp. considering AI wasn't supporting his read at all. -
Again, you notice the pattern -- even if Heat may be wrong, etc, Heat has yet to show any scum motive in his actions.
6. 1417 by Heat is an example of a concept called "empathy". -
What I like a lot about this post is the fact that Heat was not only able to consider the possibility I was town, but he also thought about how he would react in such a position. Sure, scum could make such a post, but when the target is very likely to get lynched eventually, that just seems like it's making scum's job harder. The way Heat was able to see my perspective and think about it from an unbiased perspective really makes me townread him. Empathy is a concept I think Boon couldn't understand well this game.
So, my strongest townread right now is actually Heat.
I've already explained my view of PK though I gotta keep in mind he can be sneaky at scum, aka, someone to look at during lylo.
Finally, I have a mild townlean on Axle as I don't see him pushing a scum agenda. Unfortunately, his analysis of stuff is a good way to keep suspicion off of him. Now that I spilled the beans about Axle and tonights nk, I wouldn't be surprised if scum choose a different target. (Thanks a lot, Axle )
That leaves me with Massive. Massive has done very little scumhunting and partially wants to lynch me just because I added in a part tellling him not to hammer Axle. It is no unheard of for someone to just go hammer someone early, so I added it as a precaution to allow Axle some time to speak, and what I get out of it is apparently a scumread (granted its not the only reason) and a L-1 vote.
@PK
I'm fine with an Axle lynch but would prefer a Massive lynch. Massive looks more opportunistic in his voting of me than Axle does. Axle has at least explained his read whereas Massive is not expressing his views well and continues to use his meta as an excuse for providing virtually zero useful content. While with all the other slots, I actually see good reasons to townread them, I do not with Massive.
Assuming:
1. Lynch Massive, Axle NK'd --> I would lynch PK next simply because I'm town and PK acts the same regardless of alignment.
2. Lynch Massive, Someone else NK'd --> I would lynch Axle
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop. Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
So Pisskop if by some chance you happen to be town and have acquired this magical certainty who the scum is by error on your part,
then you need to pull your head out of your ass and try communicating.
How did this suddenly supersede your UTL read?
What about what happened is scummy?
Why have you refused to explain why you have your reads?
In the earlier parts of the game that can at times have utility, but lately persuading town to vote how you want, is what its about.
True by playing the
Ive got secret I know why X or Y is scum and you don't because you are dumb.... lets you crow louder later if you happen to be right and your ego is fragile enough to need that sort of thing
But in order to win, you do need to persuade people.
Of course if you are scum, you can try to emotively persuade people by calling them dumb for voting people who are town, and then hope that in order to avoid you calling them dumb again they will just sheep you.
As previously stated Massives town read on me is based on thinking similar things as is mine on him. This si especially true when they think things I didn't say yet.
Me finding more of those would strengthen my town read on Massive further. But those self same ideas are ones Massive wants to keep hidden to see if I think them and he can check i am thinking what he is but has not said yet.
hence the dilemma, who discloses what first?
The solution is to base play on the iterated prisoners dilemma and the Tit for Tat solution/strategy.
@Pisskop
You are umpteen turns behind in disclosure... and transparency.
If you wanna be even in the game.... play the game.
wrong answer. as the final townie Im the one whos deciding the game
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop. Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
In post 2271, pisskop wrote:wrong answer. as the final townie Im the one whos deciding the game
Wat (for a start I didnt answer anything. So far today I am the only one who has really said anything)
pfft.
There are two townies left, and i am one of them.
and rather obviously you claim to be one them as will massive.
All thats both boring and IIOA.
Your post is bravado instead of Analysis.
This is still true.
In post 2269, AxleGreaser wrote:@Pisskop
You are umpteen turns behind in disclosure... and transparency.
If you wanna be even in the game.... play the game.
Hrm. I expected to be dead. I'm reading and thinking, brb.
"1AM .. not a good time to think I started mixing massive and mathcam" - Totem, DP8
"unvote mlaker; vote massive; It's like MeMe/mneme and Corsato/Cadmium" - Dragon Phoenix, Newbie 38
PLEASE NOTE: I actively avoid being online on weekends! Don't replace me just because of this!
I'm up and active, Axle. My active time is from 7a to 4p Mountain (GMT-7)
I want to go back and re-read the actual lynching of UTL.
"1AM .. not a good time to think I started mixing massive and mathcam" - Totem, DP8
"unvote mlaker; vote massive; It's like MeMe/mneme and Corsato/Cadmium" - Dragon Phoenix, Newbie 38
PLEASE NOTE: I actively avoid being online on weekends! Don't replace me just because of this!