1. In post
18, Kein trying to get everyone to lynch GR because he is trying to avoid a vote. -
Ugh.... this guy...... Anyway, I'm taking this as non-alignment-indicative as Kein is new here, but just wanted to point out that the game is still in RVS here, and people tend to fool around in RVS. In other words, GR hasn't done anything worth mentioning yet as he is simply fooling around, etc. -
Null-Indicative
2. In posts
12,
16,
20,
30,
33, and
37, mn expresses a strong scumread on GR. -
Not sure what to say here, but the fact he is unwilling to share about his past meta (
26) makes me think this is a mafia slot. Not sure if I'd call it a bus or an attempt on a townie though...... -
Scum-Indicative
3.
As of
39, I get a general town vibe from Keyser. His interrogation of mn seems reasonable and normal from this slot. -
Town-Indicative
4. GR expresses a dislike of Keyser in
52. He states Keyser, not mn is overreacting, and Keyser's dialogue seems forced. -
I must disagree. Also, you state Keyser took mn's comment seriously in RVS. The way I see it, Keyser saw it as a regular RVS thing and was suspicious of Aqua's jump. However, mn's responses made Keyser wonder if mn was actually serious, so Keyser investigated further. (
25) Mn responds with
30 to Keyser, so that actually makes me suspect of you as your jump on Keyser seems a bit opportunistic. I am willing to give leeway, as this probably a miscommunication error, so -
Null-Scum Indicative
5. Masq provides a nice summary of what I just said and some in
59. -
Accurate and not warped imo. Personally like the post. -
Null-Town Indicative
6. Personally disagree with my predecessor's Mn townread and Masq scumread in
62.
7.
79 by OceanWind is fairly nice and thought out.
8. Pops votes mn in
98 for being "the most recent post". -
Really, 4 pages in & you don't have time? Why did you join in the first place? The fact you vote mn for a completely random reason (ok, not 100% random) just reads as scum not even trying imo. This does NOT read as too busy town. -
Scum-Indicative
9.
Good points brought up in
101 by Aqua subsequently followed by a well-thought out response by Keyser in
102. -
Town-Indicative for both
10. In
107 by Phoenix, Phoenix tells Keyser that mn is looking for reactions. -
Ah, that gives me a slightly different perspective on mn; I wasn't sure what he was aiming at, but this makes sense. -
Null-Town-Indicative; Reevaluate mn read
11.
Lol, I could agree with 135
12.
As of
160, BBT, Massive, and TTH automatically get a slight scumread for not actively trying to participate in the game. Though, I must admit, Massive tends to generally lurk anyway.
13. In
161, Aqua calls Masq out and points out that he hasn't said anything of substance lately -
I mostly concur with that -
Scum-Indicative for Masq
14.
181 is the first time I've seen Keyser react under pressure. He goes on to chainsaw(?) Phoenix. Instead of defending himself, he goes straight in for the knife kill. -
Not sure what to say here. All of us have stress levels/frustration levels and we all respond differently. Keyser generally posts long, analytical posts. This post is rather agitated and has a harsh tone to it on the otherhand. I kinda like his arguments though -- aka, Keyser seems to keep his logical ability even when he's frustrated. -
Null-Indicative; Null-Scum Indicative for Phoenix
15. I honestly didn't notice that GR practically shut down the Kain wagon, but Keyser points this out in
239 after a statement by TTH in
237 -
I remember the last game I played, Mini 1755. This reason was probably the biggest reason why scum got lynched D1 --> we had a nice early wagon going then Raskol comes in and literally derails by claiming we were trying to lynch it and we were at L-1. Anyway, that leads me to this conclusion -
Null-Town Indicative (Keyser, TTH); Scum-Indicative (Golden)
16.
@Kain - (
241) You're not a troll. Your simply a VI/Mafiascum newbie.
17. Good analytical post by TTH in
269 -
I must vehemently disagree with the Keyser read though. I see little noise and a lot of scumhunting from the slot. Just my two-cents on the matter. -
Null-Town-Indicative
18. Pops accuses Keyser of trying too hard to contribute & avoiding an alignment indicative discussion (in his
356 referring to
291 -
THIS is the guy we should be lynching; the one who lurks all day and then tries to paint something that completely isn't alignment indicative as alignment indicative. -
Very Scum-Indicative
19. From
440 to
446, BBT finally chimes in & gives his thoughts for...... THE ENTIRE THREAD??????? He also pushes a strong anti-Keyser case. -
This slot's scum, no doubt about of it. You aren't even willing to commit to thread, over 15 pages and you are JUST NOW reading the ENTIRE thread???? Your Keyser case is awful, the first problem being that Keyser has been actively trying to solve the game and scumhunt. His questions and comments all seem to have a genuine purpose bhind them, and Idc if he's wrong --> I learned a few things last game, one of them being your consistent reads are probably what you think they are. -
Almost Confirmed-Scum-Indicative
(Haven't seen Keyser in a few pages though.....)
20.
Also scum-reading Guy Fawkes & Aqua as of
457
21.
Eh, scratch that, I like Pops more for scum as of
484
22. Kein believes there to be two scum in Keyser, Aqua, Ocean (me), and TTH as reaffirmed in
501 -
I can affirm that I am not scum. My guess as far as OceanWind is he either left the site or just couldn't keep up; if you didn't notice, the slot hadn't said asnything in 300+ pages. That should be a clue it's not scum lurking. Keyser is definitely on my town list. And Aqua was great at the beginning, meh in the middle, a bit scummy towards 457, and back to towny as of now. Aka, I'm pretty sure Aqua is town. So, I don't believe in your statement Kein, esp. when you are impossible to read and are constantly OMGUSing players. -
Null-Indicative
23.
502 - Are you referring to Mini 1755? Tbh, you were reading as scum pretty badily early on, but PoE nets you a neutral read.
24. Kein states he finds the Keyser Wagon opportunistic in
530 -
I partially agree with you; not everyone is being opportunistic with the wagon, like yourself, but some people are..... staring at BBT....... -
Null-Indicative for Kein; More Scum-Indicative for BBT
25.
To 549: Bye!
26.
@Kein in
552 - On the contrary, Mafia will tend to bus their partners @ the opportunistic moment. Aka, they get a buddy lynched for towncred. Furthermore, while somewhat uncommon, it is not impossible for town to White-Knight another town player (defend heavily). In fact, an example can be found in D1 of Mini 1755
27.
Beat the mod in 564
28.
While it's kinda funny with the replace-outs, it's also kinda mean to th mod. In other words, one joke about it is funny, but keep it at that --> Don't make the mod's job more stressful than it is.
29. Thor wants Keyser to claim in
579 -
Much too early for that; also, you JUST replaced in and already want Keyser to claim???????????? Idk about everyone else, but that flat out reads as SCUM-MOTIVATED to me; there is
zero
town motivation to getting a player to claim
when you haven't even caught up yet!
-
Very Scum-Indicatove
30.
In response to
593: I don't like lynches & I don't like the possibility that someone gets hammered before I get my two-cents in. Also, was skimming & didn't really read your post, all I saw was Boon putting in a vote & remembering that Keyser was the top wagon. I didn't care to lookup the vote number, just wanted to make sure people didn't lynch til everyone had a chance to catch up.
31. In
601, Thor wants to know how running up someone to claim is anti-town. -
I can tell you why -- it gives Mafia a confirmed PR to shoot at night. In other words, you 1) Nullified any info gained from possible NKA 2) Just allowed a town PR to get killed before they could even use their ability. Tell me what
isn't
anti-town about that.