Mini 1785: Game Over!

[Jake from State Farm]

vote: RC

[Jake from State Farm]

nah it's not

[Jake from State Farm]

vote: RC

OMGUS?

how is it omgus if he isn't voting me?

[Jake from State Farm]

I have trouble believing that scum!Jake with Kush draws attention to my post by voting me after it.

well to be fair regardless of my alignment I will always vote you because you are always scum

[Jake from State Farm]

ok?

[Jake from State Farm]

except i'm not scum but carry on

[Jake from State Farm]

why? because you don't know what the definition of OMGUS is?

Well anyways, you can hope as much as you want but I am not scum

[Jake from State Farm]

it's page 2...

[Jake from State Farm]

off topic - how have you and I not ever played with each other acryon? I could have sworn we have but looks like you just played in a game I modded

p.edit - yes we have plenty of time but tbh day 1 I am going to take a back seat so don't really expect me to lead any lynches. Just had a game end where I lost and i'm still licking my wounds from it

[Jake from State Farm]

my OK? was because the example you gave wasn't an example of OMGUS which you said it was. OMGUS occurs when you vote somebody for voting for you or even attacking you. Not because somebody says they think you are probably scum but voting somebody else.

btw what is your issue with OMGUS anyway? analyzing my own play I omgus people a lot and don't even realize I am doing it sometimes. If a person makes an attack on me that I believe is so bad it can't possibly come from town i am going to return fire and make them pay and trust me, you don't want to tangle with me when i'm fired up

[Jake from State Farm]

you don't want to tangle with me when i'm fired up

except for this game. I don't have the energy to fight with anyone this game

[Jake from State Farm]

I didn't even say I had an issue with it. I was just asking you if that's what it was.

OMB

[Jake from State Farm]

I didn't even say I had an issue with it. I was just asking you if that's what it was.

OMB

...oh my bod?

oh my bad

@Jake
Sounds like you're setting yourself up to coast and hoping we all give you a pass.

well if that's how you interpret it that's on you but that's not what I am saying at all. i will still be scum hunting and stuff but I just won't be the loudest voice which is how I normally play.

@ Acryon - The reason why I voted RC is because he is almost always scum when we play with each other

[Jake from State Farm]

hey RC - I just realized that we have played like 6 games together and you have only been scum twice. man those 2 games must have really done a number on me lol

[Jake from State Farm]

yes exactly and if you read those games they were like battles. lynching mafia shouldn't take that much work lol

[Jake from State Farm]

VOTE: Acryon

We've never played together where I've been scum?

I actually just verified this to be true.

[Jake from State Farm]

VOTE: Acryon

We've never played together where I've been scum?

I actually just verified this to be true.

as in

acryon has never played with scum radiantcowbells?

correct

[Jake from State Farm]

I like Meeseeks but I have a question. Are you a true n00b or you an alt?

[Jake from State Farm]

so an alt. gotcha

[Jake from State Farm]

jarjar makes good points.
VOTE: acyron
The reason why I was excited it because it was scum last game and I do not like being scum.

I think the issue people have is you said I am town and while you are correct people find it impossible for you to actually know this is true.

[Jake from State Farm]

kush isn't a n00b though

[Jake from State Farm]

vote: lapsa

[Jake from State Farm]

VOTE: BananaCucho

vote: lapsa

why?
why?

because his only post at the time was asking RC a question that was blatantly obvious if you read the posts that came before it so it looked like fake contribution

[Jake from State Farm]

I'm not explaining why I voted someone when I clearly explained why I vote them though.

okay... let's try looking for it once again

We've never played together where I've been scum?

this one's the only viable candidate to be "an explanation" for your vote

who are you talking about, who's "we"?

nope... seems like an answer to low-energy-excuse ancient dude:

hey RC - I just realized that we have played like 6 games together and you have only been scum twice. man those 2 games must have really done a number on me lol

you are lying, RC. there is no explanation for your acryon vote on #53

my god you can't be this dumb

[Jake from State Farm]

Lapsa, i don't even know why I am wasting my time but here goes.

hey RC - I just realized that we have played like 6 games together and you have only been scum twice. man those 2 games must have really done a number on me lol

This is where I talk about how i thought i had played with scum RC more than I actually had

hey RC - I just realized that we have played like 6 games together and you have only been scum twice. man those 2 games must have really done a number on me lol

Don't worry I feel the same. PTSD.

This is where acroyn says he knows what I mean implying he has also played with Scum RC and that's like having PTSD (Post traumatic stress disorder)

VOTE: Acryon

We've never played together where I've been scum?

This is where RC says that he and acryon have never played together where RC has been scum, making acroyn's PTSD comment weird

So like I said, it's super obvious why RC was voting acroyn.

[Jake from State Farm]

vote stays on lapsa, he is either scum or a liability

[Jake from State Farm]

lol. THAT is what you call blatantly obvious?

yes i do because it is. Anyone who has mastered the art of reading comprehension can pick up that is why RC voted acroyn

[Jake from State Farm]

well you are entitled to your opinion

[Jake from State Farm]

Yeah I'll vote Kush.

vote kush

Kush should have dropped a vote on jarjar there imo.

[Jake from State Farm]

"defensiveness, isnt a scumtell
defensiveness, isnt a scumtell
town want to avoid being lynched too
so defensiveness is NOT A SCUMTELL"

Dude I love this song. Who sings it? I've been saying this shit for years mainly cause I'm often accused of being defensive all the time.

People really need to stop throwing that out there like it means something.

[Jake from State Farm]

VOTE: Jake

defensive and apologetic

[Jake from State Farm]

Rc lets lynch Kush

[Jake from State Farm]

That post you quoted was kind of scummish though, Garmr. (Post 202)

Yeh I agree that post 202 was scummy.

Wat?

[Jake from State Farm]

Saying that being defensive isn't a scumtell because "town wants to avoid being lynched" is stupid.


Avoiding being lynched is like THE main thing scum is trying to do.

Yeah sure, town doesnt want to be lynched either, but that shouldn't be a high priority at all. IF it is then ur mafia'ing wrong.

Just like most things that are scummy, being overly defensive is either a scum-tell or a bad-townie-tell.

Sorry you are wrong. Almost every townie gets defensive just like almost every scum gets defensive. It's not alignment related it's human nature. Nobody wants to get lynchhed. I'm a great example of this. I never actually care if I'm lynched in games, there's so many opportunities to play I can turn around and get into a game in. I time but I never want to be lynched. If people make false accusations towards me I get defensive. Saying defensive behavior is a bad townie tell is literally the dumbest and most inaccurate statement anyone could ever make.

[Jake from State Farm]

Got friends in town for the next few days so

v/la til Monday

[Jake from State Farm]

You aren't by chance running any of the Disney races this coming weekend are you?

[Jake from State Farm]

I agree on principle that Kush is scum but I want to do Lapsa more.

Can we make that happen? Speak now if you're townreading him or leggo.

Kush has more votes I think. Why not Kush now and him tomorrow?

[Jake from State Farm]

Yes 5k, 10k, half, and full starting Thursday through Sunday. Runners start at 5 am. It's on my bucket list

[Jake from State Farm]

Oh my bad no marathon

[Jake from State Farm]

@jake there is a 5k, 10k, half, full race at some point in the year right? Isn't it like the dopey race or something? I've thought about doing that too.

Yes the one in January. That's the one on my list. I'm doing my first marathon this October so let's see if I'll ever do a second lol

[Jake from State Farm]

Also is that L-1 for Kush? Didn't look that closely, I'm on my
phone.

Yes L-1

[Jake from State Farm]

Sup

Miss anything good? Kush hasn't been lynched yet?

[Jake from State Farm]

I'm back but so out of it. Did I miss anything good? Odds are I won't go back and read anytime soon

[Jake from State Farm]

I'm back but so out of it. Did I miss anything good? Odds are I won't go back and read anytime soon

I'm confirmed town now so you ought to retract your scumread of me.

Link to that please

[Jake from State Farm]

So you aren't confirmed town...

[Jake from State Farm]

You tried to argue that because your play is different this game this means you must be town, but my play is different this game so from your pov I should be scum. You are trying to buddy me hard which makes me not think you are town.

Of course your play is different if you are scum. 1. You just beat me so I'm going to be more aware of you and 2. There's no ego fights to hide behind so you have to actually post if you are scum

[Jake from State Farm]

@jarjar meseeks.

@jake but you know I am capable of staying under the radar as scum. So why would i play in a way that makes everyone want to vote me?

Wifom? Idk. There's nobody causing a distraction this game so you can't hide

[Jake from State Farm]

I was going to read up this morning but I am too captivated watching the boston marathon.

[Jake from State Farm]

I was going to read up this morning but I am too captivated watching the boston marathon.

it's called lurking - ask RC

I'm confused. I didn't ask you a question and I don't have any for RC

[Jake from State Farm]

Btw the women finish was amazing. anyone who has ever run track would appreciate the finish

[Jake from State Farm]

I'm confused. I didn't ask you a question and I don't have any for RC

no, you are not confused. you are lurking

No I'm not. I was on v/la for a couple of days and just got off it last night. I planned on catching up this morning but got distracted.

If you are town it'd be helpful if you pay attention to these kinds of things instead of falsely accusing people of things that just aren't true.

[Jake from State Farm]

It's not going to be anything exciting.

[Jake from State Farm]

aww shit

irl caught up with me, im a few pages behind (ive skimmed, but not properly read anything since last post) so yeah

fire assassin is firebringer? lol, probably should have been obvious by name but the posting style is different, wondering how accurate traditional fb tells are

wagon on him is justified but idk how much i agree with it, will need a better read to determine

i agree that calvary is a bit dodgy, i remember my gut twinging at something about their posts when skimming

ill do this tomorrow (my time) probably

Ok now I must know who is your main account?

[Jake from State Farm]

In regards to the Lapsa debate, I don't think it's the most productive avenue to follow at the moment. I don't say this because Lapsa is a town-read as such. Given how many people agree that his posts are scummy, we're at risk of circle-jerking around one player.

Originally I was going to say this was a good post but at the time it was being made, 2 people had multiple votes on him so nobody was "circle jerking" around 1 player. Why did you act like he was the only possible wagon?

Since you brought this up, do you think that Jake is acting differently from how he played last game as town? He feels less aggressive to me but I read the game all at once so my perception would be different to yours.

Im playing completely different this game. Thus proving that it's possible for a player to play 180 and still be the same alignment. Which is why my scum read isn't going to go away just cause his play is different this one.

[Jake from State Farm]

This is as useless as the thing she's questioning.

I agree her question was useless. The original question imo wasn't. Sure it's asking for hypothetical but asking Kush what he would do was imo a good question.

Kush has only 2 real options. 1. Play the same and hope I don't notice or 2. Play different and hope I do notice.

What bugs me about Kush isn't how he's playing different, it's how he keeps pointing it out expecting to gain town cred because he's playing different. I mean he did say he was confirmed town because of how his play is different. That right there raises red flags

[Jake from State Farm]

Garmr if it makes you fee any better I sort of agree with you about Calvary. It may be a little biased but you do make some valid points. Id rather lynch Kush but Calvary does ping my scumdar. Especially when he says he finds people suspicious yet doesn't vote them, doesn't question them, doesn't quote posts they made and attempt to explain what they have done that warranted the suspicion.

I do want to read her post about fire when I have time to see if that makes sense or not. The vote seemed to come out of left field, much like yours on calvary

[Jake from State Farm]

sorry, my aim is to keep this alt secret as much as possible, revealing it in my first game with it seems to render that redundant

So you do know what an alt is. Earlier you said you didn't. Why lie over something so trivial?

[Jake from State Farm]

I just have a personal hatred towards people who lie, especially when it's for no reason. Im not using it as a reason to scum read him though.

[Jake from State Farm]

well you sort of did but whatever. I'll just ignore you now

[Jake from State Farm]

I like Meeseeks but I have a question. Are you a true n00b or you an alt?

neither i am above your titles

like this is pretty much the most obvious "of course im an alt" sarcastic reply ive ever seen

and ignore me? like, all my content? because that seems like a questionable course of action to take on a player who was just dicking around a little with an alt

History has shown me over and over that if a person is going to lie about trivial things, they are most certainly going to lie about things not so trivial. I can't trust you or anything you say.

[Jake from State Farm]

well it's not for you to understand.

[Jake from State Farm]

well to be honest nobody asked you where you stand on this matter but since you brought it up post 123 is where the lie occurred. His original post where he said he was neither to me meant he wasn't a n00b player but he's just new to this site. post 123 is where he outright denies being an alt and he had no reason to lie about it.

i'm not interested in discussing this anymore because quite frankly I don't care what you all think about my opinion on the matter and I certainly don't care about any of yours. He lied and has been proven untrustworthy to me and that's all that matters.

[Jake from State Farm]

I didn't ignore you kush, I wasn't online to see your response. But please read my last sentence of post 693 where I said I'm not interested in discussing it anymore, because I am not interested in discussing it anymore.

you want to ask me questions about something else, go ahead.

[Jake from State Farm]

If you're not interested in discussing it then why bring it up?

I didn't. you did in post 692 and you really had no business in what we were discussing to begin with.

[Jake from State Farm]

Autti is still a great lynch. I'm really happy with where my vote is right now. Do you guys need me to handhold you through this, or are you capable of reading his filter?

think you will need to actually demonstrate those amazing scum hunting skills you bragged about but haven't yet used here. Your vote on him didn't really make much sense to me and you didn't really add anything else of value. You vote him for something that isn't really scummy so please let's see what else you have on him

[Jake from State Farm]

If you're not interested in discussing it then why bring it up?

I didn't. you did in post 692 and you really had no business in what we were discussing to begin with.

If you vote jarjar I will switch my vote.

Why should I vote jarjar?

[Jake from State Farm]

Because you have to lynch scum? Plus I don't think kush will get lynched.

And he's scum because...

[Jake from State Farm]

I'm town reading both tbh but I don't think Jake will accept because I think kush is town.

Your correct. My opinion > anyone else's.

I haven't seen a single compelling argument for anyone yet. Take you for example. You made a case on somebody but want me to vote somebody else. Why?

Right now I'm lost and the only person who has been blatantly scummy is Kush.

[Jake from State Farm]

VOTE: jarjar

Looks like the final wagons are forming and even through I'd prefer lapsa I don't think I will get that off today.

Was this the case? Cause this looks like opportunism to me.

Maybe you can link it for me?

[Jake from State Farm]

There's nothing scummy about thinking a player is town and looking for scum on that persons wagon. Wtf is wrong with you garmr?

[Jake from State Farm]

Has anyone made a case on lapsa?

[Jake from State Farm]

Has anyone made a case on lapsa?

Thanks. I'll check it out later

[Jake from State Farm]

mod 3 people are voting garmr, not 2

[Jake from State Farm]

Anyways, we aren't lynching you today I don't think so I guess I'll have to move my vote sooner or later.

Don't see why U'd think garmr can't be lynched today.

There is no way Garmr is getting lynched today. One of me or Garmr have to be night killed before that happens.

Challenge accepted

vote: garmr

[Jake from State Farm]

Sure Garmr.

Any reasoning behind that vote Jake?

I think he could be scum

[Jake from State Farm]

Anyways, we aren't lynching you today I don't think so I guess I'll have to move my vote sooner or later.

Don't see why U'd think garmr can't be lynched today.

There is no way Garmr is getting lynched today. One of me or Garmr have to be night killed before that happens.

Challenge accepted

vote: garmr

but you haven't even communicated why you want to lynch garmr.

Fun fact. There's no rule in place that actually requires me to do so

[Jake from State Farm]

For not giving a reason when he voted? No

For not giving a reason when asked multiple times? Yes

[Jake from State Farm]

If you actually knew anything about me you know I'm notorious for voting without reasons

[Jake from State Farm]

By who? Only one person asked me why I'm voting garmr and I have him an answer.

[Jake from State Farm]

*gave

[Jake from State Farm]

jake, why are you voting garmr?

Well I already answered this

[Jake from State Farm]

Well if you want to know WHY I think he's scum all you had to do was ask.

WHY I think he is scum is because his actions don't make much sense from a townie pov. He makes a case on somebody but gives up on pushing them because of what I can only assume is lack of support. He instead wants to vote people he hasn't made a case for. He said he made one but when called to link it he retracted his statement. he tried to get me to vote somebody and when I asked him why I should, he replied with "because he's scum" again no case or even valid reasons.

So I think he's scum because town imo doesn't do those things

[Jake from State Farm]

Jake wagon is stupid. I imagine he is withholding an answer for a reason, I don't see why a big push to understand why is necessary right now.

There isn't even a wagon. I don't even think I have a single vote on me which actually surprises me based on how I've played so far. I totally expected to have some votes by now

[Jake from State Farm]

Partially on policy of uncommunicativeness.

I'm communicating just fine thanks. People need to word their questions better Ldo

[Jake from State Farm]

Well yes but he's probably scum and is threatened by me

[Jake from State Farm]

I guess time will tell

[Jake from State Farm]

Please don't make reads lists. I'd rather you spend that time making a case on somebody

[Jake from State Farm]

So what happened to your scum read of Calvary? What was the point of that case you made if you abandon your scum read in just a few pages?

[Jake from State Farm]

Fine if my reads are stagnant then

VOTE: Lapsa

I'm not voting anyone else this entire game till his lynched.

Garmr, want to switch this up to JarJar?
VOTE: JarJarDrinks
Not down for a Calvary lynch today, maybe tomorrow.

VOTE: jarjar

Boy that didn't last very long did it?

[Jake from State Farm]

looks like gamr just wants to buddy people better than he is

[Jake from State Farm]

@Jake, post 649 - I checked the VC on #450 (I think) and Lapsa had 4 votes, so no idea where you got 2 votes from.

This was the vc before your post

nnn_thekushmountains (3): I Am Innocent, Jake From State Farm, JarJarDrinks
Lapsa (4): Garmr, Mr Meeseeks, acryon, Lapsa
Calvary (1): Autti
Garmr (1): MURDERCAT
JarJarDrinks (1): RadiantCowbells
Autti (1): nnn_thekushmountains

Not Voting (2): Calvary, Fire Assassin

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in 5 days, 20 hours, 51 minutes

2 people had multiple votes on them. Lapsa had 4 and kush had 3

[Jake from State Farm]

looks like gamr just wants to buddy people better than he is

But your not a good player.

never claimed to be but you aren't sheeping me. you probably should so we can lynch scum

[Jake from State Farm]

I mean even frozen angel won't play with you anymore and that says a lot.

frozen angel uses her mental illness (which is probably faked in the first place) in games to gain sympathy so I don't give a rats ass what she thinks. She doesn't want to play with me because I tunneled on my scum reads and tried to get them lynched. My scum reads who even the dead people agreed was scum and the other who basically played against his win condition the entire game so yeah F that B

[Jake from State Farm]

Radiant isn't being given a free pass, he is playing as town so far. No scum hints from his play so far.

disagree with this statement

[Jake from State Farm]

It's not so much he's playing like scum, he's not playing like town. His posts are all pretty much middle of the road and nothing I've seen from him is alignment indicative. He isn't playing like his old scum self cause and he never will in games that I'm in cause Ive got his acum meta etched in my brain and he knows it. This is his new scum meta

[Jake from State Farm]

That's not silly at all actually and yes if he was pressured he would show his true self

[Jake from State Farm]

That's not silly at all actually and yes if he was pressured he would show his true self

I was V/LA for 3 days you twit.

I'm not referring to now, the entire game your presences has been very underwhelming.

[Jake from State Farm]

I don't know why I didn't do this as soon as I found out fire assassin was fire bringer but I can't play with a known game thrower.

request replacement.

Fire is on my blacklist