Mini 1798: Greatest Idea (Game Over)

[SirCakez]

Because they're scum who realized they fucked up
VOTE: Radiant Moonlight

Also willing to hang Radical Rat but this really needs pressure
Probably no mafia inside the Lovers judging from Hume's play

[SirCakez]

Yume's*

[Radical Rat]

I'm on mobile where trimming quotes is a chore, so my responses to these accusations will be italicized.

Something for folks to chew on tonight...

I won't be voting for Massive.

I don't want to help someone who breaks the rules hoping for a cheap win.

1) I'm not breaking any rules

So this

Game Rules

Claiming scum by yourself is fine. Claiming scum with another player is an instant modkill. Don't do it.

doesn't count as a rule?

Yume is queued in on Radical Rat's posts, and supported his statement in the quote above.

Or she was trying to associate themselves with me, but that leads to a dangerous game of WIFOM, so I'd prefer to simply think that she shares my sense of honor and justice.

Not damning in itself, but then when she claimed 1-Shot Unlynchable.... who else claimed that?

As for my cards, I had

Werewolf Supersaint
Town One Shot Unlynchable
Alien Psychotrooper

I chose Werewolf as my alignment, and One Shot Unlynchable as my ability.

Upon being called out on her impossible claim, Yume leaned on her scum buddy's role. Before you say scum wouldn't be so transparently obvious about being scum, remember that this is the scum that fakeclaimed vengeful seer.

Except that was from my first roll. This time around, I am neither a Werewolf nor am I unlynchable, and on top of that, it was a REALLY BAD claim. I don't think that kind of thought was out into it.

I know what you're thinking because I thought it too... Yume might have been faking an association. However, I have come to believe that is not the case, based on Radical Rat's own actions.

Aren't Mason and Lover two separate abilities?

Radical Rat obviously knows that roles are determined based off of one card, as he was about to call fowl on the Mason Lover claim on these grounds, evidenced by this post.

But where was his objection to the following?

My choices were as such

Vengeful Townie
Werewolf One-Shot Paranoid Gun Owner
Seer

Well, I am a Vengeful Seer.

Strange, he'll ask if Mason and Lover are two different abilities... but he's not at all curious about Vengeful and Seer being in the same role?

And here was my fatal mistake. I simply didn't catch it. I know there's no proof of this or anything, but yeah. I overlooked it by accident. Whether you choose to believe me or not, is up to you.

This is all contingent on Yume being a scum flip, ofc.

Not exactly an award-winning defense, but it is what it is.

[Radical Rat]

Because they're scum who realized they fucked up
VOTE: Radiant Moonlight

Also willing to hang Radical Rat but this really needs pressure
Probably no mafia inside the Lovers judging from Hume's play

I think this might be a scumslip.

Why exactly does RC saying you're Town mean they "fucked up?" Are you NOT Town?

VOTE: SirCakez

[Radical Rat]

{iraonavp, massive, DoctorPepper, House}
{Alchemist21}
{Fate}
{Katsuki}
{Radical Rat}

Fate: Town Cop Lover (Disc: Compulsive Childkiller)
House: Town 1x PGO (Disc: 1x Gladiator)
Alchemist21: Town dayvig (Disc: Alien Mass Redirector)
SirCakez: Town Vanillaizer (Disc: Mafia Goon)
Ranger: Town Roleblocker (Disc: WW SuperSaint)
Doctor Pepper: Town 2x BP (Disc: Mafia Fruit Vendor)
Yume: Vengeful Seer (claimed) (Disc: WW 1x PGO)

iraonavp: town or SK (Disc: Werewolf)

Radical Rat: Werewolf 1x Unlynchable (Disc: Bodyguard)
Katsuki: WW Watcher (Disc: Innocent Child)
not-me-numbers: Werewolf Conspiracy Theorist

massive: lyncher/mason (Disc: Werewolf)

RadiantMoonlight: ??? (Disc: Mafia Godfather)

Still want that claim from RadiantMoonlight.

I'll be voting Radical Rat after that though.

Seriously bro, swap your Fate and Katsuki positions.

I'm curious: what's got you so confident in Katsuki? They've barely posted at all.

[House]

{iraonavp, massive, DoctorPepper, House}
{Alchemist21}
{Fate}
{Katsuki}
{Radical Rat}

Fate: Town Cop Lover (Disc: Compulsive Childkiller)
House: Town 1x PGO (Disc: 1x Gladiator)
Alchemist21: Town dayvig (Disc: Alien Mass Redirector)
SirCakez: Town Vanillaizer (Disc: Mafia Goon)
Ranger: Town Roleblocker (Disc: WW SuperSaint)
Doctor Pepper: Town 2x BP (Disc: Mafia Fruit Vendor)
Yume: Vengeful Seer (claimed) (Disc: WW 1x PGO)

iraonavp: town or SK (Disc: Werewolf)

Radical Rat: Werewolf 1x Unlynchable (Disc: Bodyguard)
Katsuki: WW Watcher (Disc: Innocent Child)
not-me-numbers: Werewolf Conspiracy Theorist

massive: lyncher/mason (Disc: Werewolf)

RadiantMoonlight: ??? (Disc: Mafia Godfather)

Still want that claim from RadiantMoonlight.

I'll be voting Radical Rat after that though.

Seriously bro, swap your Fate and Katsuki positions.

I'm curious: what's got you so confident in Katsuki? They've barely posted at all.

I'm more certain about Fate being scum than Katsuki being town.

[Radical Rat]

Alright, and what's your logic there?

[SirCakez]

How did you even interpret that as a scumslip lmao
I meant they screwed up earlier by trying to push me for a mislynch and are now trying to rectify their mistake

[Radical Rat]

How did you even interpret that as a scumslip lmao
I meant they screwed up earlier by trying to push me for a mislynch and are now trying to rectify their mistake

This push of yours is one post, with barely any content.
In fact, their entire slot has barely any content behind it.

Which does worry me, since last game they never STOPPED talking, but I digress.

You're basing this on two posts, one calling you Scum, with the other the other calling you Town, and I don't think that's enough to go on, especially considering that this is a Hydra slot, so it isn't horribly shocking to see two different opinions. Especially when both are clearly from different heads.

[SirCakez]

They disappeared when Yume was being wagoned
They are both normally incredibly active players but are lurking here

Just these two things alone are fantastic evidence

[Radical Rat]

I agree with you there, but my problem is that this isn't what you chose to justify your vote. Your reasoning then was just that one head thought you were Town, after the other expressed suspicion.

Had you cited their inactivity instead, I wouldn't have a problem.

Yet, it seems somewhat silly to focus on you when we have a read in common, so I'll follow along if you don't mind.

VOTE: Radiant Moonlight

[House]

Alright, and what's your logic there?

They threw away compulsive child killer, and claimed Miller.

For them to be town, they have to have received three shitty roles, and the odds favor them being scum and fakeclaiming Miller.

[House]

How did you even interpret that as a scumslip lmao
I meant they screwed up earlier by trying to push me for a mislynch and are now trying to rectify their mistake

Cakes, RM isn't scum here, just derp town.

I have two solid scumspects that need to swing.

[House]

They disappeared when Yume was being wagoned
They are both normally incredibly active players but are lurking here

Just these two things alone are fantastic evidence

Titus doesn't shy away from suspicion as scum.

[iraonavp]

and I gave them. It's not my fault that my first and 2nd roll cards are the same. Or are you gonna declare me scum for this?

wasn't implying you were scum just herpderp

I think the

...

reply should've summed it up for the rest of the readers

I think that this makes Fate likely to be scum-aligned with Yume. Also, what House just said about him choosing miller.

VOTE: Fate

[House]

{iraonavp}
{Ranger}
{Alchemist21, DoctorPepper, massive}
{Katsuki}
{RadiantMoonlight}
{Fate}
{Radical Rat}

RR needs to swing.
Then Fate d3.

If the game is still ongoing at that point, I'm open to RM.

[House]

{iraonavp}
{Ranger}
{Alchemist21, DoctorPepper, massive}
{Katsuki, SirCakez}
{RadiantMoonlight}
{Fate}
{Radical Rat}

RR needs to swing.
Then Fate d3.

If the game is still ongoing at that point, I'm open to RM.

Ebwop

[DoctorPepper]

Neither of these two players are this passive or non participatory as town. Something is wrong.
VOTE: Radiant Moonlight

[Fate]

Alright, and what's your logic there?

They threw away compulsive child killer, and claimed Miller.

For them to be town, they have to have received three shitty roles, and the odds favor them being scum and fakeclaiming Miller.

the fact that I discarded a town role makes me confirmed town, because it means I definitely had the option of being town.

[Fate]

{iraonavp}
{Ranger}
{Alchemist21, DoctorPepper, massive}
{Katsuki}
{RadiantMoonlight}
{Fate}
{Radical Rat}

RR needs to swing.
Then Fate d3.

If the game is still ongoing at that point, I'm open to RM.

I guess I'll just back to back bus buddies and NK you and coast though

iranowap is a safe lynch for me to push once you're dead

[Radiant Moonlight]

They disappeared when Yume was being wagoned
They are both normally incredibly active players but are lurking here

Just these two things alone are fantastic evidence

Titus head has been ill making it harder to sync up.

Neither of these two players are this passive or non participatory as town. Something is wrong.
VOTE: Radiant Moonlight

It's called Titus is ill. You know scum Titus engages as well. She only mentions Newbie 1388 obsessively.

[Radiant Moonlight]

Alright, and what's your logic there?

They threw away compulsive child killer, and claimed Miller.

For them to be town, they have to have received three shitty roles, and the odds favor them being scum and fakeclaiming Miller.

This is inaccurate.

the fact that I discarded a town role makes me confirmed town, because it means I definitely had the option of being town.

[Radiant Moonlight]

Titus you were wrong. SirCakez was town.

Why do you say that?

Titus insisted on that phrasing. She's not subtle and wanted to apologize for her very likely incorrect push on SirCakez.

[DoctorPepper]

They disappeared when Yume was being wagoned
They are both normally incredibly active players but are lurking here

Just these two things alone are fantastic evidence

Titus head has been ill making it harder to sync up.

Neither of these two players are this passive or non participatory as town. Something is wrong.
VOTE: Radiant Moonlight

It's called Titus is ill. You know scum Titus engages as well. She only mentions Newbie 1388 obsessively.

I remember that game Titus, but I do recognize your town game as well.

[Radiant Moonlight]

Then why would you act like lurking is AI for Titus?