Mini 1804: Poker Mafia (Game Over)

[farside22]

mod please fix my last post. Thanks!

[Alchemist21]

♠ ♡ DAY 1 VOTECOUNT ♢ ♣

MM(3):

Fire Assassin, Something_Smart, BBT

Wingback(2):

MM, FA

FA_Q2(3):

Infinity, Wingback, farside

Fire Assassin:

lane

BBT:

RedCoyote

Not Voting(2):

qubixes

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

The current pot is $60

The amount to call is $10

Still in the hand: Farside, MM, Red Coyote, Wingback

MM, farside, and Wingback must act.

Spoiler: Betting History

Bet orders:
Ante
RC bets $10
BBT folds
Fire Assassin folds
Infinity folds
qubixes folds
something smart folds
FA folds

Day ends in (expired on 2016-07-05 12:30:00)

[Alchemist21]

mod please fix my last post. Thanks!

I think I got the quote tags like they're supposed to be. Let me know if it's still not right.

[Infinity 324]

Farside, what did you think of my back off of RC?

Sorry mod, but I'll be V/LA from july 10th to july 16th

[farside22]

Farside, what did you think of my back off of RC?

Sorry mod, but I'll be V/LA from july 10th to july 16th

I think your wrong to do so.

[Fire Assassin]

*wingback/Persivul.

Farside/moi

Yes my reading comprehensions skills need some work.

@Farside what do you mean about my instincts sucking?

[lane0168]

You calling me scum

[Fire Assassin]

It was just an initial read. I have you null leaning town right now.
Lane did I miss you comment about my plan? Ill go recheck, if you haven't answered it pls do. Thx.

[Infinity 324]

I'm bored and this game is going nowhere. Someone talk to me about s_s

[lane0168]

I don't really care what you do. I don't have any money

[lane0168]

If you do. Id make a list of people who are absolute no's and if there is someone that's not on any list? Then do it? If not, don't do it

[The MM]

But the poker stuff IS a minigame, Fire. Also, that plan relies on trust in one player to work. If that player is scum, town's screwed. Besides, there's no such thing as a universally-townread player in here.
By the way, crappy hand: Fold.

First off, you are scum.
Second of the mini game helps us with the main game, its not just simple tacked on gimmick to keep us busy during the main game. We can use it to get closer to our win condition in the main game. By using the mechanics to our advantage, do you not get that?
We can't do what i am suggesting today, but I think we throw some games to Farside/Persivul tomorrow to get them some items/roles to use like BP and Tracker.
And yes, there is rarely a "universal" town read, but there is usually one enough people can agree on that is appropriate like 80% of us agree one player is town, its probably likely they are in fact town.

First off, you're scum. Now we're even. If you don't feel how stupid this sounds, you are bad and you should feel bad.
Second, yes, but I certainly wouldn't entrust my money to someone else, doubly not if it's you, BBT or RC, who have been in my eyes the most globally hostile players.
Third, I can already get Tracker anyway, so why should I bother giving it to anyone else?
Fourth, yes, sure, but we could post readslists and see if there's not one guy that gets the most townreads. Then again, I wouldn't consider that a good idea.

I'm bored and this game is going nowhere. Someone talk to me about s_s

Sure, I'll ISO s_s.
His 4 first posts are kinda filler, just like any early-game post, so it gives us little.
I never agreed with the first part of Post 45.
He didn't post between 52 and 120. Though 120 has him doubt some sheeping on him (from you no less), which is more likely to come from town.
His posts are relatively unnoticeable from there on until 188 which tossed questions to just about everyone, which I find town-ish. Aside from the doubtcasting on me and asking questions I think I had already answered.
Cue V/LA and he doesn't have a real post till Post 280. I don't like how he just says "Infinity looks towny" outta nowhere but I can't really contradict that so...
I like how s_s reacts in Post 306.
Then it's mostly quoting and quoting until his Magna vote in 377. I think it goes with how he never looked like he trusted him, so that's cool.
Post 390 soft-reads me as scum. Reaches its logical conclusion in Post 469.
Post 542 is a readslist. I understand the idea on BBT and RC, and I'm definitely in the same opinion as him, but he don't like me, which I also understand.
Post 571 I agree that 558 is ugly.

Conclusion:

Something_Smart is a null-town read to me. (To all of you who say "yay finally MM writes town or scum in a read yay", screw you.)

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Also, I agree that we lack qubixes input.
And my two last lines:
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Mod, I think I've already folded. If I didn't, fold.

- VOTE: Fire Assassin

[farside22]

*wingback/Persivul.

Farside/moi

Yes my reading comprehensions skills need some work.

@Farside what do you mean about my instincts sucking?

Calling lane scum.
I usually read and make notes while I'm catching up.

I'm bored and this game is going nowhere. Someone talk to me about s_s

Hypocritical. I hate when people say a case is weak but make no cases themselves or is more about meta and instinct and let's duck around and vote some player without explaining why.

I think, maybe, s_s whole point about MM was in regards to how he'said not a newbie and about his list of reads.
The list of reads by MM was terrible.

What do you think of quibix

[farside22]

Mm: why are you scum reading fire?

[The MM]

Mm: why are you scum reading fire?

You're making a misassumption. I'm only saying "you are scum" with no backup to the claim as an imitation of him to prove how his argumentary sucks. Everything else you need to know about what I think of him is in my previous posts anyway.

[Infinity 324]

Was more looking to have a discussion on mm than to have someone make a case, but what mm did was helpful (thanks). I still have a strong gut town read on s_s I can't shake.

qubixes is null town for me because his thoughts are organic and well-reasoned (not simplistic), even though I often disagree with them.

[Fire Assassin]

First off, you're scum. Now we're even. If you don't feel how stupid this sounds, you are bad and you should feel bad.
Second, yes, but I certainly wouldn't entrust my money to someone else, doubly not if it's you, BBT or RC, who have been in my eyes the most globally hostile players.
Third, I can already get Tracker anyway, so why should I bother giving it to anyone else?
Fourth, yes, sure, but we could post readslists and see if there's not one guy that gets the most townreads. Then again, I wouldn't consider that a good idea.

1) Strangely I never do feel bad.
2) I never said me? I was saying a person who was stronger town. Thats rarely me. My suggestion is wingback, and what does hostility have to do with alignment or even judgement? You want a town player who knows what their doing having the power.s
3) I don't like that at all. The point is to give it to town? And I don't think you are town.
4) Why not post your read list? What is wrong with giving it to if almost everyone townreads that player? Do you think scum is going to slip into everyones town list? I am sure they will slip in some, but most? IF they are doing that good, they are going to likely win regardless.

[Fire Assassin]

Mm: why are you scum reading fire?

You're making a misassumption. I'm only saying "you are scum" with no backup to the claim as an imitation of him to prove how his argumentary sucks. Everything else you need to know about what I think of him is in my previous posts anyway.

That doesn't prove my argument is bad? How was anyone supposed to come to this conclusion? Nothing else in there is a joke of any kind and the tone doesn't seem even like a "imitation" beyond your "You are scum", you want to point out the reasons why posting our reads list/giving to our global townread is a bad idea at all?

I already said not to give it to me.
Point out your counter argument here since my "argumentary" sucks.

[RedCoyote]

I'm bored and this game is going nowhere. Someone talk to me about s_s

As I promised, I wouldn't continue to pursue BBT if no one else saw what I saw. I am still extremely nervous about BBT right now, but I am no longer willing to hold the game up if no one else sees it.

UNVOTE: BlueBloodedToffee; VOTE: The MM

I still stand by that vote though, and I want it on record that I currently do not have good feelings about BBT.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

RC, put your mind at ease.

If I'm scum, you die N1 anyway.

[RedCoyote]

RC's assertion that he and I were the only true supporters of the MM wagon is not really accurate (though I still think he's town)

Like lane, I think you misunderstood my comment. I shouldn't have made it because the subtle difference between pushing for MM and stopping opposition to MM wasn't clear enough. Again, I'm not arguing that either you or myself were the "only true supporters" of the MM wagon, only that I was arguably the most effective person at stopping opposition to the MM wagon (with you assisting in that). Does that make sense?

I don't think this point needs to be belabored, but I just wanted to clarify it.

[RedCoyote]

RC, put your mind at ease.

If I'm scum, you die N1 anyway.

I kind of want to make the same comment to farside, hah.

[RedCoyote]

Also, farside, you must act on your poker hand in your next post or you will get scum points from me. Same with Wingback. I'm putting you two on notice.

[Fire Assassin]

RC I took forever to play my hand, did I get scum points for that?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Fire is prob scum as well.