Mini 1813 - Overwatch Mafia! TOWN WINS

[podoboq]

He gave a reason for a vote, i pressured him, he changed the reason. That is scummy.

As far as I'm concerned, this is a flagrant misrep.

So...you're saying that random is fabricating a reason to scum read doctor?

In other words, people in the chain are voting eachother because they think someone's making up a scumread on people because they don't like their reads, which is kind of a bad reason on its own, but whatever. I can ignore that part. Town has bad reads all the time. That's not my problem with random.

I'm voting random because his reason to vote DoctorPepper is to confirm Tracer (which is garbage for a hundred reasons) and because he believes DoctorPepper was inconsistent when he clearly wasn't. If he wanted to say "I think DoctorPepper's vote on shadowstep is bad, and I'm scumreading him because of that," I can look past that, but his logic is "DoctorPepper gave a reason, then gave a different reason when questioned," which is just untrue.

[Xkfyu]

He gave a reason for a vote, i pressured him, he changed the reason. That is scummy.

As far as I'm concerned, this is a flagrant misrep.

So...you're saying that random is fabricating a reason to scum read doctor?

In other words, people in the chain are voting eachother because they think someone's making up a scumread on people because they don't like their reads, which is kind of a bad reason on its own, but whatever. I can ignore that part. Town has bad reads all the time. That's not my problem with random.

I'm voting random because his reason to vote DoctorPepper is to confirm Tracer (which is garbage for a hundred reasons) and because he believes DoctorPepper was inconsistent when he clearly wasn't. If he wanted to say "I think DoctorPepper's vote on shadowstep is bad, and I'm scumreading him because of that," I can look past that, but his logic is "DoctorPepper gave a reason, then gave a different reason when questioned," which is just untrue.

I gotcha. I like your train of thought here.

Still wanna hear the logic for why a DP scum flip means that there was scum on Tracer's wagon.

[Foxbird]

So why did the Vedith wagon not gain any traction? If someone's got a townread on him, I'd like to hear it.

[Randomnamechange]

@random

Can you outline your logic in post 436 please?

Basically, a lynh was going through on DP until the end of the day, when a counter wagon springs up. Perfect opportunity for scum who don't want to bus but are reluctant to defend DP to derail his lynch

He gave a reason for a vote, i pressured him, he changed the reason. That is scummy.

As far as I'm concerned, this is a flagrant misrep.

So...you're saying that random is fabricating a reason to scum read doctor?

In other words, people in the chain are voting eachother because they think someone's making up a scumread on people because they don't like their reads, which is kind of a bad reason on its own, but whatever. I can ignore that part. Town has bad reads all the time. That's not my problem with random.

I'm voting random because his reason to vote DoctorPepper is to confirm Tracer (which is garbage for a hundred reasons) and because he believes DoctorPepper was inconsistent when he clearly wasn't. If he wanted to say "I think DoctorPepper's vote on shadowstep is bad, and I'm scumreading him because of that," I can look past that, but his logic is "DoctorPepper gave a reason, then gave a different reason when questioned," which is just untrue.

No it isn't

[Randomnamechange]

Although that assumes Tracer flips town which may not happen

[The Engineer]

Guys

Or

We can not derail the DP wagon

[The Engineer]

Turret is sad :<

[serrapaladin]

There is absolutely no way we're lynching tracer before vedith.

Either way, I don't like the DoctorPepper lynch. I think he's town.

Explain?

[Tracer]

Although that assumes Tracer flips town which may not happen

So what is your read on DP now?

[DoctorPepper]

So, I am honestly a bit confused on flavor and how its tied to abilities.
For one DP is claiming to be a Omnic but also claiming the flavor character of Zarya.
Which has nothing flavor wise to do with the Omnic.

For the record, I have the Omnic trait, which means I can't lynch Omnic. My characters flavor matches though however.
I am starting to suspect that DP is lying though.

But my understanding of this mechanic would mean that DP shouldn't be scum....

Never claimed to be an omnic. I claim to be able to double vote omnics.

[DoctorPepper]

Well since DP has voted Genji, and Genji has claimed omnic, we should be getting confirmation of that ability with the next VC.

Also, I had a look at flavour-related stuff, and Zarya doesn't really like omnics, moreso than perhaps any other member of Overwatch, so the ability makes sense. If we get the voting confirmed, that means DP is likely actually Zarya, and then I don't think he would so obviously crumb his true role as scum in such a flavour-heavy game.

If it was so obviously crumbed, how come nobody really noticed it :>

[DoctorPepper]

He gave a reason for a vote, i pressured him, he changed the reason. That is scummy.

That's my line!

Ok, I have a question for you Tracer, did you create your account before or after receiving your role PM?

This post is so bad, it's paranoid scum trying to look busy.

VOTE: Spring

I'm gonna go off this. Why would this be a legitimate reason to vote for anyone.

VOTE: Shadow

Yes but what shadow did is exactly that, fake scum hunting.

No, random. He didn't. This is the same thing said in two different ways.
213: "That is not a legitimate reason to vote for anyone."
217: "Shadow is fake scum hunting, by coming up with illegitimate reasons to vote for someone."

It's the same damn thing.

FUCKING THANK YOU. Someone gets it. Its bugging me why people are scum reading me for this when its basically the same thing.

Im going rm if I confirm Genji is omnic and I have reason to lay off Genji.

Oh and Genji, to answer you regarding me voting omnics. Do all omnics know each other. Are you neighbors or masons. Do you have day talk.

There has to be logic in me.having the doublevote. Normall, in a neighborhood there is 1 scum, otherwise they would just be masons. And why would I be given an ability to doublevote if all my targets are potentially town.

Basically im sure theres at least 1 scum with the omnics

[DoctorPepper]

Guys

Or

We can not derail the DP wagon

I have no idea why we arent lynching this/pressuring this slot to give more info other than "lynch DP". Its starting to be pretty fluffy and the engineer's posts indicate that they post to not get prodded by posting innocuous things that wont attract attention

[Peter Elric Pines]

My sincerest apologies for the lack of activity. I am still alive, and will catch up with stuff tomorrow.

[DoctorPepper]

My sincerest apologies for the lack of activity. I am still alive, and will catch up with stuff tomorrow.

Should we tell him?

[Xkfyu]

In post 705, Xkfyu wrote:
Either way, I don't like the DoctorPepper lynch. I think he's town.

Explain?

Over the course of D1 and D2, just about everyone in the game has wanted to lynch DP. That screams lynch bait to me.

[serrapaladin]

Everyone has wanted to lynch DP so much the wagon on him derailed twice.

Well since DP has voted Genji, and Genji has claimed omnic, we should be getting confirmation of that ability with the next VC.

Also, I had a look at flavour-related stuff, and Zarya doesn't really like omnics, moreso than perhaps any other member of Overwatch, so the ability makes sense. If we get the voting confirmed, that means DP is likely actually Zarya, and then I don't think he would so obviously crumb his true role as scum in such a flavour-heavy game.

If it was so obviously crumbed, how come nobody really noticed it :>

I don't make a habit of going around pointing out people's crumbs :/ but I take your point:

did anyone else with flavour-knowledge pick up on DP's crumb?

@mod: vc please?

[Xkfyu]

Everyone has wanted to lynch DP so much the wagon on him derailed twice.

Good. It needs to be derailed again.

[serrapaladin]

I happen to agree, but I don't see how your reason for townreading him is valid, when there has obviously been some resistance to his lynch.

[The Engineer]

Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine

[The Engineer]

Turret is not pleased though

[Randomnamechange]

Although that assumes Tracer flips town which may not happen

So what is your read on DP now?

Opposite alignment to Tracer. Technically town but I could see him as scjm

[Xkfyu]

I happen to agree, but I don't see how your reason for townreading him is valid, when there has obviously been some resistance to his lynch.

The first time it was "derailed," it was in favor of Tracer's lynch, which was for mechanical reasons, and not scum reasons. So, that one doesn't even really count as a normal derailment.

The only true wagon that has formed from non-game mechanic reasons has been DP's wagon.

[Xkfyu]

Turret is not pleased though

You should probably move it then. Lest it gets lonely once everyone else moves away from DP.

[podoboq]

So I did not get a reads list out night. I ended up playing Werewolf until 3:00am instead. Oops.

Reads list probably coming tonight...?

Still want to lynch random.