Mini 1804: Poker Mafia (Game Over)

[Infinity 324]

If scum!mm got tracker, it was probably to look town (or maybe use it for himself), but I'm not sure he would think about how it could be confirmed. So I think getting tracker makes it more likely for that slot to be town.

Don't see how mm could have been scum with that play though

[Fire Assassin]

I mean, I think the best case of MM being town was his very hostile and aggressive posting when he was pushed, which Wingback showed a different game of him acting very differently as scum I believe.

[MathBlade]

Will catch up tomorrow just got off work. Dead tired.

[Shadow_step]

Lol that was my point why I am conf town XD.

Why?
You could have bought role stopper for all we know.

[farside22]

I mean, I think the best case of MM being town was his very hostile and aggressive posting when he was pushed, which Wingback showed a different game of him acting very differently as scum I believe.

That was the one reason I switched but frankly it's not enough consider math has these weird association that make no sense, a VCa that makes no sense, it just reads as throwing shit to see what sticks.

[farside22]

If scum!mm got tracker, it was probably to look town (or maybe use it for himself), but I'm not sure he would think about how it could be confirmed. So I think getting tracker makes it more likely for that slot to be town.

Don't see how mm could have been scum with that play though

You don't think scum would take the ability to keep it out of town hands?

[farside22]

Spoiler:

Town, awkward and possibly scum (but probably not a good D1 lynch), and town
I definitely disagree that scum can't make terrible cases that look like confbias. I've been on both ends of forceful cases by scum on town that were weak at best. I think his defense of MM is contrived and could possibly be partner defending (one reason why I want an MoI flip today), and I agree that his thoughts on RC don't seem real.

Actually I'd like to do this.
VOTE: MM
@Infinity: MM may be new to the site, but he's not naive. This was the essence of the experience debate: he's new to the way things work on this site but not to the way they work in general.

Fold

BBT's probably town, I've seen him be abrasive and defensive as town and I think he'd be doing more as scum. I think RC's objections are mostly explainable by BBT's not liking being town as much.
RC's assertion that he and I were the only true supporters of the MM wagon is not really accurate (though I still think he's town); I never expressed any read on MM for the majority of the original wagon's life, whereas other people (like lane) definitely did help that wagon along more than I did.
I'm liking Infinity for town but I really don't see where that MM read comes from and it seems a bit like a WK... you're saying scumtells for newbs are different, but you have to remember that MM is not new to the game, and probably shouldn't be treated as such in terms of his interactions.

I think I understand the BBT kill. It strikes me as kind of a "don't rock the boat" kill, to eliminate a strong player who hadn't really contributed much this far.
It reminds me of the droog kill in this game.
And I think what it suggests is that town's collective reads are way off, as they were in that game. I'm very disappointed that my MM/FA theory didn't end up being true, and I think that flip means that MM is town too. I definitely want to take a closer look at farside once again.

@Shadow: if only one person wins a hand in any given day, they will be bulletproof the following night. That's the mechanic that Fire wants to (ab)use by throwing hands to townreads.

Fire just an FYI if math is scum I want you to see this. I find comments like this association of a scum buddy.

[Infinity 324]

If scum!mm got tracker, it was probably to look town (or maybe use it for himself), but I'm not sure he would think about how it could be confirmed. So I think getting tracker makes it more likely for that slot to be town.

Don't see how mm could have been scum with that play though

You don't think scum would take the ability to keep it out of town hands?

I doubt scum are that scared of tracker

[Fire Assassin]

Fire just an FYI if math is scum I want you to see this. I find comments like this association of a scum buddy.

I have been feeling like Something_Smart is scum, but really not to do with associations.
He has been doing a classic scum tell of sitting in the background of the day and floating that middle ground.
He has no focus on him so he just says a few comments so people know he is here, but doesn't try to game solve or take focus.

Ill look at the associations though, could be damning.

[Fire Assassin]

This is where I am at right now:

Town: Titus, Farside
Leaning Town: Infinity
Null: Shadow_Step
Leaning Scum: SOmething_Smart
Scum: Mathblade

[farside22]

Fire just an FYI if math is scum I want you to see this. I find comments like this association of a scum buddy.

I have been feeling like Something_Smart is scum, but really not to do with associations.
He has been doing a classic scum tell of sitting in the background of the day and floating that middle ground.
He has no focus on him so he just says a few comments so people know he is here, but doesn't try to game solve or take focus.

Ill look at the associations though, could be damning.

No doubt the guy is scum.
The point he is pushing is weak.

[Titus]

Still think Fire should vig math. I want to confirm Fire as vig.

[Fire Assassin]

Then lynch Something_Smart?
I am tired of this day and arguing with you.

[Fire Assassin]

VOTE: Something_Smart

[MathBlade]

If I die tonight lynch Titus and Fire with the speed of a bullet train.

@Farside -- Please stop derping :/ Like this is bullshit here. If you don't understand ask questions. I believe I have explained myself in a straight forward manner.

[Something_Smart]

Fire just an FYI if math is scum I want you to see this. I find comments like this association of a scum buddy.

I have been feeling like Something_Smart is scum, but really not to do with associations.
He has been doing a classic scum tell of sitting in the background of the day and floating that middle ground.
He has no focus on him so he just says a few comments so people know he is here, but doesn't try to game solve or take focus.

Ill look at the associations though, could be damning.

You've seen my scumgame. Do you really think this is it?
Also, what middle ground? I think the scum are Infinity and farside. I'm just not too involved in this game and nobody's trying to engage me anyway.

[Fire Assassin]

Fire just an FYI if math is scum I want you to see this. I find comments like this association of a scum buddy.

I have been feeling like Something_Smart is scum, but really not to do with associations.
He has been doing a classic scum tell of sitting in the background of the day and floating that middle ground.
He has no focus on him so he just says a few comments so people know he is here, but doesn't try to game solve or take focus.

Ill look at the associations though, could be damning.

You've seen my scumgame. Do you really think this is it?
Also, what middle ground? I think the scum are Infinity and farside. I'm just not too involved in this game and nobody's trying to engage me anyway.

Yes, I do think this is it.

[Something_Smart]

Why?

[farside22]

VOTE: Something_Smart

YAH

VOTE: Smart

[farside22]

Fire just an FYI if math is scum I want you to see this. I find comments like this association of a scum buddy.

I have been feeling like Something_Smart is scum, but really not to do with associations.
He has been doing a classic scum tell of sitting in the background of the day and floating that middle ground.
He has no focus on him so he just says a few comments so people know he is here, but doesn't try to game solve or take focus.

Ill look at the associations though, could be damning.

You've seen my scumgame. Do you really think this is it?
Also, what middle ground? I think the scum are Infinity and farside. I'm just not too involved in this game and nobody's trying to engage me anyway.

Better question is this anything like how smart plays town.

[Something_Smart]

VOTE: Something_Smart

YAH

VOTE: Smart

Nobody hammer yet, I want to at least put some final effort into this game and produce a readlist.

[farside22]

I have been seeing smart as scum since day 2.

[Something_Smart]

Why?

[farside22]

Why?

I've explained this already.

[Alchemist21]

♠ ♡ DAY 3 VOTECOUNT ♢ ♣

something_smart(3):

Titus, fire assassin, farside

[L-1]

Fire Assassin(2):

Infinity, mathblade

mathblade:

shadow step

farside:

something_smart

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

The current pot is $486

The amount to call is $250

Still in the hand: titus, fire assassin, infinity

titus, infinity must act.

Spoiler: Betting History

Bet orders:
Ante
Mathblade checks
Titus checks
Fire Assassin bets $200
Something smart folds
Shadow step folds
Infinity raises to $201.
Fire Assassin raises to $250
Mathblade folds
Farside folds

Day ends in (expired on 2016-08-13 12:30:00)

Reminder that if the lynch occurs before the current hand is settled then there will be a 24-hour period to finish the hand.