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[Accountant]

VC 1.07

RyanK (2)

: gameplay506, pitoli

gameplay506 (3)

: Cass, Martha Zolanski, Dierfire

Dierfire (3)

: Saru, golden009, rb

Naomi-Tan (1)

: Chuck

Martha Zolanski (1)

: Naomi-Tan

Comparing Realities (1)

: RyanK

Not Voting:

Glitch, Comparing Realities

With 13 alive, the majority is 7.

The deadline is in (expired on 2016-09-07 16:06:30)

[Martha Zolanski]

Hey guys! I'm back! I'll read!

[Martha Zolanski]

144 - It's so weird that Pitoli wants to use Naomi's vote to vote for someone.
154 - It maybe is but people, (I think), Is just sheeping cass about it like me. I am not sure about this so don't attack me. Instead, clarify it.
157 - I love this post on RyanK. Town reading gameplay now. UNVOTE: Gameplay
164 - Hmmm. I love this post again. Town points to Gameplay!
171 - Well, What I am thinking at that time is Cass' reasons for you is good enough to make me suspect you. That is why I voted for you, To defend yourself and to prove us wrong if we're wrong. and this is why I want to wait for you to defend yourself. As I didn't expect, You didn't defend yourself but you did share your reads on BR and RyanK.
185 - I don't get why you are like saying BR is voting a mafia than town.
189 - Your town read on Naomi looks more like her way of not getting suspected. Being open about that makes her earn a town read thus she'll get a town read. Then, She'll never be suspected as mafia.
- Also I like your explanation about Dierfire here.
190 - Uhhh But great choice.
191 - I voted for her because that's why I do to make people answer my question.

Linking posts makes my life hard. I'll post this one. I'll be quoting post now.

[Martha Zolanski]

I'm dumb af. OMG I DIDN'T KNOW THE POSTS WILL AUTOMATICALLY BE LINKED.

[Cass]

Hm, after a strong start this seems to be stalling a bit. So I will for now
UNVOTE: Gameplay and
VOTE: Dierfire (that's the 4th vote)

You need to participate more and defend yourself.

Also, this could be a scumslip:

[quote="In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 7#p8273867]If rb is Town, his vote is marginally more likely to be on a Mafia player than if he were Mafia. Also, if rb is Town then all other players are marginally more likely to be Mafia (from 3/12 to 3/11).[/quote]

Wouldn't those numbers be 3/11 vs 3/10? Eh? Or are you not counting yourself as town for some reason?

[Martha Zolanski]

205 - I didn't know Ryan is being fake until you posted.
207 - Agree
210 - Ryan's
215 - I think you said you want people to sheep you then Dierfire sheeped you then you're voting him for this. I'm not suspecting you though In fact, I don't agree with this post but I agree on voting Dierfire.
218 - I like your strategy of making scums talk when being lurky. But the chance of hitting scum on this strategy is low.
222 - It's a joke. Don't take that seriously LOL
238 - Sometimes I vote for my game strategy.
298 - LOL

Reads:

1) Glitch - idk
2) gameplay506 - looks town
3) Comparing Realities - idk
4) Saru - idk
5) pitoli - somewhat town
6) Naomi-Tan - seems scum
7) Dierfire - possible scum
8) rb - hopefully town
9) RyanK - possible scum
10) golden009 - idk
11) Chuck - idk
12) Cass - somewhat town
13) Martha Zolanski - TOWN

[RyanK]

205 - I didn't know Ryan is being fake until you posted.
207 - Agree
210 - Ryan's
215 - I think you said you want people to sheep you then Dierfire sheeped you then you're voting him for this. I'm not suspecting you though In fact, I don't agree with this post but I agree on voting Dierfire.
218 - I like your strategy of making scums talk when being lurky. But the chance of hitting scum on this strategy is low.
222 - It's a joke. Don't take that seriously LOL
238 - Sometimes I vote for my game strategy.
298 - LOL

Reads:

1) Glitch - idk
2) gameplay506 - looks town
3) Comparing Realities - idk
4) Saru - idk
5) pitoli - somewhat town
6) Naomi-Tan - seems scum
7) Dierfire - possible scum
8) rb - hopefully town
9) RyanK - possible scum
10) golden009 - idk
11) Chuck - idk
12) Cass - somewhat town
13) Martha Zolanski - TOWN

That was fast. It took me hours to finish reading it.

[pitoli]

VOTE: Comparing Realities

Wtf is that
Lynch this people

[RyanK]

...
Then I get some pro advice about wallfighting ty RB I really needed advice from a VI with ego problems.

This is why RB is shittown
Now to scum on my wagon in my next post

Why are you so certain rb is town? VOTE: gameplay506

[RyanK]

VOTE: Comparing Realities

Wtf is that
Lynch this people

I was attempting to stir discussion.

[pitoli]

@Mod:

Did the players who haven't posted in thread yet pick up their role PMs? Is it possible to get prods on them?

[pitoli]

VOTE: Comparing Realities

Wtf is that
Lynch this people

I was attempting to stir discussion.

Bullshit. You don't do that with a naked vote on a player who hasn't even entered the thread.

[RyanK]

Pitoli, why are you so concerned that I voted Comparing Realities anyway?

[pitoli]

Pitoli, why are you so concerned that I voted Comparing Realities anyway?

I'm concerned that your entire wall of catchups you managed to say nothing and that after reading for 3 hours your "reads" are so weak that you're voting someone who hasn't showed up yet. We don't have any information on Comparing Realities - you can't actually think voting them will lead to some productive discussion.

[RyanK]

At least I managed to get a read at post 308. I am still trying.

[Martha Zolanski]

@pitoli

I don't recall playing any prior games with rb, and I have no special confidence in my ability to read rb compared to any other player.

Okay. What makes him your strongest townread?

I'm working with these posts.

Spoiler: These Posts

VOTE: Ryan

gameplay is good at the game, we're sheeping her now.

Everyone aboard the Ryan train, this is optimal townplay.

See you're right our interaction is scummy, you're wrong about the scum. It was optimal because I think I could have got more than 1 scum to get on your wagon and then we can counter-wagon on scum later in the day. It sounds dumb but it actually works pretty well. Gameplay is the scum you're looking for. You should vote gameplay.

VOTE: gameplay

The sudden switch from the wagon on RyanK to to gameplay506 is confident and aggressive; it's an attempt to break out of RVS and move the game forward. This is a good move that helps Town, and one that Mafia players have relatively low incentive to make at this point in the game. On this basis,

I read rb as Town.

@gameplay506

I've never been good with the town/scum motivation hunting but I am pretty sure there is something lacking here
Like what does your town read on rb have to do with you voting me?
I can't make the connection

If rb is Town, his vote is marginally more likely to be on a Mafia player than if he were Mafia. Also, if rb is Town then all other players are marginally more likely to be Mafia (from 3/12 to 3/11).

@gameplay506

more likely he is voting mafia as town*

It's not that he is more likely as Town to vote Mafia than to vote Town; it's that he's more likely to vote Mafia as Town than as Mafia.

I can't explain this posts made by you. Maybe because I feel like you're an obvious scum. And your vote for gameplay because you town read br is just fucking scummy.

VOTE: Dierfire

For me, All your posts are non sense and more like, "Hey bitches, I read BR as town" although on these posts makes me want to suspect BR but making myself feel like your obvscum makes it more clearly that you just want to get you suspected together with Br.

PEdit: Agreeing with Pitoli. I really think RyanK is just a scum that was caught, trying to get more suspected. But it can also lead to as bad town. URGH.

PPedit: Try Harder, Ryan.

[Accountant]

@Mod:

Did the players who haven't posted in thread yet pick up their role PMs? Is it possible to get prods on them?

It hasn't been 48 hours since the start of the game, so I'm not prodding Glitch yet. Comparing Realities is currently being replaced. Both picked up their role PMs.

[RyanK]

....
PPedit: Try Harder, Ryan.

I still need more time. It's a very slow process for me and I'm yet to be skilled in this.

[RyanK]

I guess post 308 is still the best place for me to move on from. Please respond to this, gameplayer506.

[pitoli]

I'm not a fan of how Cass and Martha switched votes onto Dierfire in such quick succession. Hey, it kind of reminds me of how they were sheeping someone earlier. The transition from Gameplay => Dierfire was so seamless, wow.

Dierfire is at L-2 I think.

[RyanK]

The only three people who are on both wagons are rb, Cass, and Martha Zolanski.

[Martha Zolanski]

I'm not a fan of how Cass and Martha switched votes onto Dierfire in such quick succession. Hey, it kind of reminds me of how they were sheeping someone earlier. The transition from Gameplay => Dierfire was so seamless, wow.

Dierfire is at L-2 I think.

I didn't sheep. I have my own reasons and BASED on the people who suspected Dierfire, It was reasonable and he clearly deserves to be lynched, imo. Idk about Cass.

[Martha Zolanski]

@MOD, Updated VC please?

[gameplay506]

Ye ur catchup sucks ryan but more on you and martha later
I find rb town because the way he is playing and his whole attitude would be very hard to act for a newbscum (newb because his join date is 2 or so months ago). Also he seems to be one of the few really trying to get scum. Basically I am comfortable with him being town for the time being. I retract my VI read but with that I downgrade my town read as well.
Will mention all this when I have more time later (prob about the time I posted yesterday)

[RyanK]

...
(prob about the time I posted yesterday)

Which would probably the time I'm fast asleep.