STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[Klingoncelt]

my role sucks, i asked the mod for a new one.
I was declined.

Told him I would even accept a scum role.

[Klingoncelt]

Straight up.

If your hood's not 100 pages long you're not doing it right.

You're in a 'Hood?

[Klingoncelt]

Note to self: Mastin can't read players.

Actually she's pretty good at reading players. Not 100%, no one is, but better than 50% at gamestart.

[Klingoncelt]

I'm not sure about Mastin's Miller-like claim though. The way my Role PM's worded, I'm pretty sure that

I'm

the Miller.

[Klingoncelt]

Hey, Klingoncelt.
You're at L-1.
Mind claiming?

Yeah, I'd claim at L-1.

Klingoncelt, my trigger finger is itching...
I do hammer unprompted, too!

You want to ally with me, don't you.

Just make sure not to hammer until late at night when I'm more likely to be online.

Mastin, KC: Both of your town/miller things you're talking about, these points are due to mechanical points in your PM's, NOT flavor stuff, correct? I ask because there are a number of characters from the show who would be reasonable as millers, and as such their flavor could easily give you that impression without mechanical effects.

-Cerb

No, really, I'm a Miller.

[Klingoncelt]

On the subject of Alliances, who's unattached? I don't want to be all alone.

[Klingoncelt]

Alliances:
grapes/chara
fire/shiro
obi/rr
skybird/foxbird
cakes/a50
yume/farside

Unaligned:
Creature
SnarkySnowman
randomidget
Seraphim
Xkfyu
CooLDoG
killthestory
McMenno
TheWayItEnds
DrippingGoofball
Klingoncelt
kraskaesque

Thank you, Grapes!

[Klingoncelt]

is grapes gonna need to play matchmaker with the lurkfucks or what people?

There sure are a lot of us that are unattached.

[Klingoncelt]

On the subject of Alliances, who's unattached? I don't want to be all alone.

I'm unattached but not sure if I want to ally with you right now; let's see if cakez declines

@cakez would you be interested in an alliance, obi-wan is already taken. I promise you that it will be a very lucrativre endeavor for you, I'll spill the beans in the pt

Sir Cakes is allied with A50, I think.

[Klingoncelt]

Klingon I find it weird that obi and I both called you scum last page and you didn't OMGUS us. What are your thoughts on that thought?

Titus can't read me for shit, so that doesn't matter.

I must have missed your read. I'm not Scum, but why do you think I am?


And Firebringer is making a bad name for himself. I think he's Scum.

[Klingoncelt]

Sorry. It's how I catch up in every game. :'(

[Klingoncelt]

Thank you.

[Klingoncelt]

Sorry. It's how I catch up in every game. :'(

Ik ik, it was still hilarious cause people were trying to talk to you but you kept going ignoring it all and answering like half an hour later XD

Yeah, I'm kinda OCD like that.

[Klingoncelt]

I must have missed your read. I'm not Scum, but why do you think I am?


And Firebringer is making a bad name for himself. I think he's Scum.

I didn't like the question you asked me but I don't really feel that strongly about it anymore.

Why do you think fire is scum?

Too trolly, not solve-y.

[Klingoncelt]

Too trolly, not solve-y.

Ummmmmmmm now I think your scum.

Because you're being trolly?

[Klingoncelt]

Too trolly, not solve-y.

Ummmmmmmm now I think your scum.

Because you're being trolly?

Because "trolly" isn't alignment indicative of me and I have no idea since when you would assume that out of the dozen of games we have played together.

Since that M-FM game over at the other site. I didn't recognize your COM. I thought "Mike" was Scum at first, but you were very serious and working hard for Town.

[Klingoncelt]

Like if you quoted that game, posted it here 99% of the players wouldn't recognize me [well maybe the bad grammar and spelling]
But really?

It was a Town side of you that I hadn't seen before.

[Klingoncelt]

I see that side of ya, I know you're Town. I don't see it, I think you're Scum.

[Klingoncelt]

RR?

Hell, I have no clue. It takes me a while to read Cerb. Drixx is a little easier. So far, Null leaning ever so slightly towards Town.

[Klingoncelt]

I see that side of ya, I know you're Town. I don't see it, I think you're Scum.

But we have had games since then and you haven't used that standard to read me......
Omg are you real?

Yes I have.

I used it in every game. You just didn't get a chance to otice.
Either one of us got killed or there was a super-duper Scumspect to lynch, so my read on you didn't matter.

[Klingoncelt]

You're getting all sadz, so maybe you aren't Scum.

I'll lean you towards Null.

[Klingoncelt]

Your cover was blown?

WTF?

[Klingoncelt]

Who doesn't have an alliance set up?

I don't.

[Klingoncelt]

Hilariously stupid idea if you're legit given Varsoon specifically warned us AGAINST doing this sort of thing.

Yep.

[Klingoncelt]

I'm not sure about Mastin's Miller-like claim though. The way my Role PM's worded, I'm pretty sure that

I'm

the Miller.

Oh no.
I'm 100%, certifiably, a miller.
There's no ambiguity in role PM wording.
I really want to prod you more about this, because if your claim has a real miller ability, there's some ways that you'd be able to prove it to me (speaking as someone who is a miller, soyeah, I know), but, yaknow. Hilariously stupid idea if you're legit given Varsoon specifically warned us AGAINST doing this sort of thing.

Hilariously stupid idea if you're legit given Varsoon specifically warned us AGAINST doing this sort of thing.

Yep.

Umm did Grandma just agree with Mastina calling her play dumb?

"

... given Varsoon specifically warned us AGAINST doing this sort of thing.

"

[Klingoncelt]

I'm looking for volunteers to ally with me.

There is chocolate.

I'll ally with you.

Chocolate is a very important food group.

So is caffeine.

[Klingoncelt]

Updated list.

MAKE SURE BOTH OF YOU SUBMIT YOUR ALLIANCE REQUESTS!

Alliances:
grapes/chara
fire/shiro
obi/rr
skybird/foxbird
cakes/a50
yume/farside
randomidget/Creature
CooLDoG/Seraphim
McMenno/kraskaesque
DrippingGoofball/Klingoncelt (pending)

Unaligned:
SnarkySnowman
Xkfyu
killthestory
TheWayItEnds

[Klingoncelt]

I'm looking for volunteers to ally with me.

There is chocolate.

I'll ally with you.

Chocolate is a very important food group.

So is caffeine.

OK hag let's do it

I sent a request, I think you have to send one too.

[Klingoncelt]

mastin2 is confirmed town. That is all.

Please don't do that. Only the Mod can confirm.

That said, I think most of us were Townreading her.

[Klingoncelt]

What if I told you i have info that RR is conf scum?

*sigh*

There's that "c" word again.

[Klingoncelt]

I am feeling like this could be Firebringer's scum game.

FINALLY SOMEONE NOTICES!

Am I invisible?

I noticed in the Prequel Phase.

[Klingoncelt]

... I'm going to die early this game regardless.

You said this before in the game.

Why are you so sure you'll die early?

[Klingoncelt]

No, it says they're confirmed town in hood OP.

Oh.

That's nice.

We have to take your word for it, but for now I will.

[Klingoncelt]

Still doesn't explain why you decided first off that Yume would be a good target for this, nor does it change the fact you said you wouldn't ally with anyone, ever.

FB, it looks like Mastin used a Mason/Best Friends ability, not a regular Ally.

[Klingoncelt]

We are not lynching Not Chara btw, i don't know if you guys got the memo, but thats like not a thing that will happen today.

Why not?

Is she your Scumbuddy?

[Klingoncelt]

Oh, and in case it isn't clear: NC already voiced their suspicion of me, so OMGUS readily exist on my part. As for opportunism, I have never voiced my suspicion of them either, so my jump on their wagon is unwarranted it seems.

Come one, people.. put some pressure on me.

You normally don't go running through the thread painting targets on yourself.

What's up?

Trying to draw attention from a more valuable player?

[Klingoncelt]

I mostly just have a list of players I am peeved at but I think TheWayItEnds stands out as good scumread material.

Please elaborate on this read.

[Klingoncelt]

Oh - Happy Scumday, Killthestory!

[Klingoncelt]

I am feeling like this could be Firebringer's scum game.

FINALLY SOMEONE NOTICES!

Am I invisible?

I noticed in the Prequel Phase.

I don't take your reads serious.

[Klingoncelt]

We are not lynching Not Chara btw, i don't know if you guys got the memo, but thats like not a thing that will happen today.

Why not?

Is she your Scumbuddy?

No, it's they btw.
Get the pronoun right.

I am a little bored of the "lynch the newbie" meta on this site.
I also have strong townread on it.

Sorry.

I used to think a recent join date meant a player was new, but anymore it's just an old player's most recent alt. I never lynch players just because they're new. I'll lynch them if they look Scummy, though.

[Klingoncelt]

I kind of would rather u get lynched then Chara today, just so we kill that meta.

You're just mad because I called you Scum.

[Klingoncelt]

I kind of would rather I get lynched then Chara today, just so we kill that meta.

Fixed
Don't know why auto put in U

Nevermind...

[Klingoncelt]

So far my scummish pile is foxbird/shiro/klingon. They all feel like they're coasting and I haven't seen much from them that gives me any reason to think that they're trying solve the game at all.

Klingon is the worst because she's made the most posts and they've all been noise outside of a few bad questions and a forced SR on fire which doesn't feel like something she believes in.

VOTE: Grapes

Your white-knighting for Firebringer is noted.

And he is a Scumread.

Hey, Townies, my vote on Grapes is sheep-worthy.

[Klingoncelt]

OK, Yume is widely town read. WHY? Is it bc Mastina said so and people are assuming that's got to be based on INFO rather than a normal read? Or is it bc Yume confirmed Mastina as Town?? And if the latter, what would YOU have done were you scum and got invited to a hood where it says "X is Town"?? Would you have even thought of keeping it to yourself, IF YOU WERE SCUM?

Maybe my mind is skewed, but I'm thinking in reverse. I'd keep it to myself for the time being as TOWN and see how people are treating the one I know to be conf!Town. I'd go out and air it as SCUM for Town!Cred and -maybe- as a means to pass some message to my peers.

But to each their own, and I'm inclined to treat this one issue as NAI, which brings me back to the original question: WHY has Yume become semi-confirmed after Mastina put her at the top of her reads??

Unless the Mod says so, no one is "c" to any degree.

"Obv", on the other hand, is acceptable.

Anyway, most of us were Townreading Mastin. Obv.

Mastin has an above-average accuracy at reading other players.

She puts Yume at the top of her Town list.

Yume is therefore ObvTown.

[Klingoncelt]

If any of my townreads are down. Would like a new ally.

Grapes/Chara alliance not working out for you?

It's awful early on Day 1 to be waning a divorce.

[Klingoncelt]

Anyone supports a scum!grapes?

I do.

[Klingoncelt]

She always scumreads me as scum and the players she's scumreading looks like a list of who scum should push for a mislynch.

Who what?

[Klingoncelt]

DGB

Are you sure Titus usually makes opportunistic-looking readlists as town?

No, Titus never does that as Town.

As Town she genuinely tries to sort players.

[Klingoncelt]

randomidget hasn't posted anything in our alliance PT yet.

DrippingGoofball

has yet to appear in ours...

[Klingoncelt]

WHY has Yume become semi-confirmed after Mastina put her at the top of her reads??

Yes, why indeed. Why would Yume become confirmed town after mastina the self-proclaimed mason has Yume the person who confirmed mastina in the first place as town. Almost like there's some form of mutual confirmation going on, in a private thread. If only there was a name for that.

okay, that's funny.

[Klingoncelt]

Why can't Cakey be the one to align with grapes? After all, those two are townreading each other so something productive may come of us.

A grapes/NC alliance just kills talking in a hood guaranteed.

Me allying with Grapes is a stupid idea.
Almost50 can confirm this.

Okay...

Almost50

, is it a stupid idea? Why?

[Klingoncelt]

Part of me wants to start a wagon on Master Shiro because he talks to me more than he posts in here.
But I also think he might be town that just wants to chat with me.

I am divided on Shiro. Shiro needs more gifs to prove his townieness

I thought Shiro was a "she."

[Klingoncelt]

I'm sorry everyone, I have the worst toothache imaginable and will not be doing shit with this game until it stops.

-Cerb

Oh wow, get well soon!

[Klingoncelt]

Protect me for a free win~

Huh?

I want to ally with you Day 2.

You're a load of laffs.

[Klingoncelt]

Its time to kick this game into overdrive.

@Varsoon Activate the Event:

Wat?

[Klingoncelt]

Killthestory: i really hope you aren't actually an innocent child.

[Klingoncelt]

VARSOON, MY TRIGGER EVENT HAS COME INTO PLAY! PLEASE ACTIVATE MY TRAP CARD!

FOR THIS PLANET IS UNTO ME, AND IF CAN'T DEFEND IT, WOE IS TO DONE TO ME!

Wat?

[Klingoncelt]

Seems like a lot of events are being triggered today.

[Klingoncelt]

@Seraphim, The scumhunting?

@Mastina, You should skim their hydra in Suikoden. They were scum there. There's no scumhunting in their ISO in either place. Klingon is in my scumreads. Look at how little interactions with NC, SirCakez, RR, and Creature in their ISO.

Titus, you know better than to say that shit about me.

In a game this size there's no way I'm interacting with every player this early on Day 1.

You know that.

[Klingoncelt]

It's late, I'm tired, I'll be back to catch up on the shitshow tomorrow.

Mastin, Titus, do you guys think Grapes is playing the same way he did in that other SU?

Because it seems really different to me.

[Klingoncelt]

hey klinconcelt, rando, yume and twie... vote me you cowards

more coherent thoughts when I'm not phoneposting

possibly

Why vote for you?

[Klingoncelt]

And here is someone pushing grapes right now

Yea but look who it is. LOL

I did respond and nothing about what he said went down in the hood isn't just stretched to try and make me look bad.
There's only so much I can do while being active in thread during an 8 hour period. His posts in the hood aren't town.

"His?"

You aren't paying attention.

This isn't how you played the other SU.

[Klingoncelt]

@Seraphim, The scumhunting?

@Mastina, You should skim their hydra in Suikoden. They were scum there. There's no scumhunting in their ISO in either place. Klingon is in my scumreads. Look at how little interactions with NC, SirCakez, RR, and Creature in their ISO.

Titus, you know better than to say that shit about me.

In a game this size there's no way I'm interacting with every player this early on Day 1.

You know that.

There's a difference between not interacting with every slot and ignoring everyslot with a wagon. I can find lots of rehashing, but you have zero comments on major events.

No comments on RR, Creature, NC, and SirCakez. You have plenty of rehashing comments. I wouldn't expect realtime interaction. I do expect thoughts.

The closest thing to a thought you have given is Titus cannot read me, which suggests I am town.

I can't read NC. Creature and Sir Cakes are Day3 reads. I'm looking at RR, RR is a Day1 read, but I want to see a couple more posts from Drixx. So far they look Town, but something's a bit off.

[Klingoncelt]

Me allying with Grapes is a stupid idea.
Almost50 can confirm this.

Reminder:

Please do NOT refer to anything we talk about in the hood in public unless it's ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.
"Me allying with Grapes is a stupid idea." would have sufficed in this case.

Well, it's out of the Hood now. Why is the idea stupid?

[Klingoncelt]

I thought Shiro was a "she."

I'm sorry everyone, I have the worst toothache imaginable and will not be doing shit with this game until it stops.

-Cerb

Oh wow, get well soon!

Protect me for a free win~

[/size]

Huh?

I want to ally with you Day 2.

You're a load of laffs.

Its time to kick this game into overdrive.

Varsoon Activate the Event:[/size]

Wat?

Killthestory: i really hope you aren't actually an innocent child.

VARSOON, MY TRIGGER EVENT HAS COME INTO PLAY! PLEASE ACTIVATE MY TRAP CARD!

[/size]

FOR THIS PLANET IS UNTO ME, AND IF CAN'T DEFEND IT, WOE IS TO DONE TO ME!

Wat?

WHAT do these 5 posts have to do with anything, except boosting KC's post count??

@KC:

Why did you feel the need to quote 2 posts and then add "Wat?" at the bottom of each quote? Why couldn't you have put them both in one post.. if you REALLY needed to respond to them in that manner in the first place?

Is there something wrong in clarifying Shiro's gender?

I should ignore Cerb's pain and suffering?

I DO want to ally with KTS on Day2. He's a very interesting player, and he's good with reads - once he gets past loltrolling that is.

Where did KTS say he was an IC?

Firebringer and KTS both "activated" something. I should not react to that?


Every reply - every post I've made in this game is typical Klingoncelt. NAI.

You never had a problem with it before.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

[Klingoncelt]

Dude, Klingon isn't scumhunting. They are just padding. They have avoided substantial comment on any game event.

I sure do hope that's Beefboy posting.

Titus knows I'm a Day3 player.

[Klingoncelt]

I don't have a vote-related role

pinky promise

I'm pretty sure someone does...

VOTE: McMenno

[Klingoncelt]

I'm not going to leave that there past the next vote count.

[Klingoncelt]

...There's a very high chance Klingoncelt is scum this game.

No there isn't. No chance at all.

I'm Town, Snowball.

[Klingoncelt]

You know what'd be great? If everyone dropped out-of-game discussion and associations beyond the standard meta-fare.
For the record, it is against site-wide rules to bring outside influences into the game.
If I rule it so, harboring a grudge against a player to the point of saying "I will not talk to you in any game you are in" would warrant a ban under these rules.

So, play the game at hand.
Yes, I am aware of how meta can shape the basis for someone's engagement with another player.
That said, play the game at hand.
That means this game.
Focus on it instead of engaging in pointless, distracting meta-discussion that's best left for a speakeasy thread or a PM after the game.
If any player's primary engagement in this game is to engage in topics only tertiary (or unrelated) to the game itself, I will issue a warning followed by a force-replace.
Play the game.
It's the single thing that you signed up for.
Just do it.

Noted.

[Klingoncelt]

OH great an RR wagon

I'm already on it

choo choo

Hi, DGB!

It would be great if you showed up in our PT.

[Klingoncelt]

I mean seriously... you've been doing the scum's bidding since go.

How am I supposed to trust you when you claim that similar situations to when RR was town should result in me scumreading them?

How am I doing the scums bidding, I asked you a question. You don't have to respond with "this is the role", you are only reading them as town for whatever claim they gave you, so thats a bad read imo.

Role =/= Alignment.
Especially in a varsoon game, will you stop trying to setup spec the game?
You should know better.

I also don't know what you mean about trusting me.

When someone acts in a manner with their role that's consistent with town motivation, I don't call that setup spec. Nor should you.

Again, you're busy attacking my approach of the game since go, when it is unwarranted and you have been whenever I attack scum.

You've completely avoided engaging Klingon, who you should know by now is scum.

No she isn't.

[Klingoncelt]

Okay, wouldn't you really just say he is a scum lean not outright the same level as someone like Klingoncelt who is obviously faking reads?

What the hell are you talking about?

I only have a handful of reads, and they certainly aren't fake, much less "obviously" fake.

Jeez, FB, try to look even more Scummy.

[Klingoncelt]

I'm down with that. You vote first.

Klingon isn't faking reads, because she hasn't stated any. (Which is still pretty much a scumclaim from Klingon.)

Okay.

Enough.

Varsoon, I'm sorry, but she does this shit every fucking game we're in and I'm done with it.

Titus

explain to everyone why you have to lie about me and my Day1 reads every goddamn game we're in.

I don't know why the fuck you're doing this, you owe me a fucking explanation.

And then you should replace out.

[Klingoncelt]

I'm down with that. You vote first.

Klingon isn't faking reads, because she hasn't stated any. (Which is still pretty much a scumclaim from Klingon.)

Okay.

Enough.

Varsoon, I'm sorry, but she does this shit every fucking game we're in and I'm done with it.

Titus

explain to everyone why you have to lie about me and my Day1 reads every goddamn game we're in.

I don't know why the fuck you're doing this, you owe me a fucking explanation.

And then you should replace out.

Really really really scummy.

No, it isn't Scummy. She's been lying about my playstyle (regardless of our alignments) for some time now.

I got pissed off and told her to quit during the Space Dandy game. Obviously she hasn't.

It's harassment.

I'll compile all the game/post links and contact a list mod.

#

donewiththatshit

[Klingoncelt]

Fun fact for everyone who read Klingoncelt AtE and thought "ohh she is so frustrated with Titus that's town"
She did the ducking exact same thing to me in Soccer Spirrits to guilt trip me into not voting her, said "it feels like you always lynch me" so on and so forth but hardcore.

Guess her alignment in that game?
Fucking scum.

Lynch her now

No. Titus has been doing this regardless of alignment. Not "seems like," but actually

has.

[Klingoncelt]

@Klingoncelt, Why should I bother listening to your pleas of "I am a Day 3 player" when you used the exact same please before as scum and totally tried to discredit me in a similar manner when I was obvtown with good reads?

It's established that I am a Day3 player, everyone that doubts that is most welcome to go to my profile and ISO all my games.

The "obvtown with good reads" - the only game that comes to mind is ongoing, so... but if it's a finished game, link me to it.

[Klingoncelt]

Link a game where you was at least 75% correct on your scumreads.

Yeah.

[Klingoncelt]

Link a game where you was at least 75% correct on your scumreads.

Suikoden Mafia, I have mentioned it like 10 times trough here and I

usually detest meta

but the game is so apt.

The wagon pattern on LQ (all town stalls out) is dramatically similar to the wagon on NC (all town stall). The defenses used were the same. The biggest read I was wrong on (and maybe the only read I was wrong on, was the masons).


Suikoden Mafia

You can't really count that, poor Lickety was in an absolute panic, I think it was his first Scumgame. His play was somewhere between heartbreaking fail and comedy gold, everyone wanted to lynch him Day1.

[Klingoncelt]

1892 is a town post by Lycan. It's so town it merits a move of the kraskaesque slot from a scum lean straight to the town pile.

Spoiler:

I thought Shiro was a "she."

I'm sorry everyone, I have the worst toothache imaginable and will not be doing shit with this game until it stops.

-Cerb

Oh wow, get well soon!

Protect me for a free win~

[/size]

Huh?

I want to ally with you Day 2.

You're a load of laffs.

Its time to kick this game into overdrive.

Varsoon Activate the Event:[/size]

Wat?

Killthestory: i really hope you aren't actually an innocent child.

VARSOON, MY TRIGGER EVENT HAS COME INTO PLAY! PLEASE ACTIVATE MY TRAP CARD!

[/size]

FOR THIS PLANET IS UNTO ME, AND IF CAN'T DEFEND IT, WOE IS TO DONE TO ME!

Wat?

WHAT do these 5 posts have to do with anything, except boosting KC's post count??

@KC:

Why did you feel the need to quote 2 posts and then add "Wat?" at the bottom of each quote? Why couldn't you have put them both in one post.. if you REALLY needed to respond to them in that manner in the first place?

Is there something wrong in clarifying Shiro's gender?

I should ignore Cerb's pain and suffering?

I DO want to ally with KTS on Day2. He's a very interesting player, and he's good with reads - once he gets past loltrolling that is.

Where did KTS say he was an IC?

Firebringer and KTS both "activated" something. I should not react to that?


Every reply - every post I've made in this game is typical Klingoncelt. NAI.

You never had a problem with it before.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Oh, my! You're gifted, I'll give you that.


"

Is there something wrong in clarifying Shiro's gender?

"

No.

"

I should ignore Cerb's pain and suffering?

"

No.

"

I DO want to ally with KTS on Day2. He's a very interesting player, and he's good with reads - once he gets past loltrolling that is.

"

OK.

Now, why where these the posts that got your attention the most that you felt the need to respond to ocver other posts that are actually game-related? And WHY RESPOND IN SEPARATE POSTS just to add ONE word at the end of each. It LOOKS like you're posting, but you're not. A skim wuld make your ISO look like it has content, but a closer look reveals it was just as goods (NOT) BEFORE you posted this string of posts as it is afterwards.

"

Where did KTS say he was an IC?

"

Where did THIS come from? I mean, he did, and you're caught skimming, but -even worse- where did you get that from the posts quoted??

"

Firebringer and KTS both "activated" something. I should not react to that?

"

And your reaction is "Wat?" in both cases?? I think I should've responded with a "WOW!" myself as a reaction to your reaction.

"

Every reply - every post I've made in this game is typical Klingoncelt. NAI.

"

This alone is worrying me MUCH, bc you seem to be fully aware of you what you're saying/doing, but you're doing NOTHING productive to the game status.

"

You never had a problem with it before.

"

Probably because you had it mixed with some real content.

KC: A trolling post is OK. A couple are fine. A mix of game-related content and human communication/sympathy is very much welcome. A series of contentless posts with no game-related content is NOT.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Just trying to sort you out. Moving you down to scum-lean. Thank you very much. Please let the next candidate in on your way out.

^ ^ ^ This is not anything that I've ever seen from A50 before.

Combined with his search for a Lie Detector, I'm thinking he's got to be Scum.

I'd vote for him, but my votes aren't working today.

[Klingoncelt]

@Shiro:

I'm not interested in your attempt to derail my line of thoughts, tbh. I play each and every game differently, and this one I decided to actually try and solve on my own and then compare my results -at the end of the game- to the likes of Titus, Mastina and RR. It's the only way I'm going to improve my scum hunting abilities. Thank you.

I play mine differently too, depending on RL situations, so I get what you're saying, However, you're playing this game WAY different than usual.

[Klingoncelt]

You don't get to tell someone "Link me to a game where you were at least 75% correct on scumreads" and then say "that doesn't count" when she links to a game where she was ONE HUNDRED PERCENT correct. She ran a gambit and literally had the entire scum team correctly identified on day one. Her scum pool consisted of ONLY scum and the 2 person mason team which included me so of course she was scum reading me because that's pretty much what Titus does.

Want to see a clinic on how to identify other town, synergize abilities and snare a scum team? Go read Suikoden Mafia.

~Drixx

PS - And really it's irrelevant if that was LQs first scum game. That doesn't have anything to do with Titus getting literally every single member of the scum team right on day one.

Aww, I feel so bad for poor Lickety, he was such Obvscum, how could anyone read him wrong? He was like the FREE space on a Bingo card.

[Klingoncelt]

someone alliance with me while i get protected for freelo

@Killthestory

I'll ally with you if you'd like.

[Klingoncelt]

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Her alignment. (No, it's not town.)

Why are you doing that, Mastin?

You know what my alignment is.

You know that I'm Town.

You know.

[Klingoncelt]

mastina won't live until tomorrow

Why not? Can't she be protected?

[Klingoncelt]

almost, Klingon, and someone else can be town.

Rest of you are scum.

Klingon is not town, wtf you getting that from.

Klingon

is

Town.

[Klingoncelt]

Just what is a "lie"?

When you tell players that I have complete reads lists less than 72 hours into a game.

When you say I lurk.

When you say things about my playstyle that are untrue.

When you give out false information about my playstyle.



I already said that I have a meta as a Day 3 player. I also have a meta for being an absolute shit player on Day1. You're saying neither of those things about me. You're making shit up. I told you to stop it in the last Space Dandy game, why are you still doing it?

[Klingoncelt]

Fourth, Are you attempting to argue that my reads shouldn't count as good because I successfully detected newb scum in RVS?

Helen Keller could have successfully detected it. Jeez. He was staggering through the thread carrying a hundred-square-foot flag with NOOBSKUMZ written on it.

[Klingoncelt]

This just in:

DGB told me she's a Traitor and I'm supposed to demand her lynch.

[Klingoncelt]

@Kling

ALLY WITH ME Titus doesnt want to

I asked Killthestory, but if he declines, then sure.

[Klingoncelt]

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Her alignment. (No, it's not town.)

Why are you doing that, Mastin?

You know what my alignment is.

You know that I'm Town.

You know.

Is this a crumb?

Sorry I haven't been engaged since Ep 1 started, have been busy IRL, but I've skimmed the thread.
Not a fan of Obi atm
RR seems weird but they might be town
KC seems town
Creature is a strong townread

Mastin can get information from my role PM today. Maybe Yume can too.

[Klingoncelt]

^ ^ ^ This is not anything that I've ever seen from A50 before.

Great. Now if you would be so kind as to define what "This" is, I'd be in your owe. Thank you.

Also, what do you mean your vote is not working today? Are you voteless?

I am voteless today.

"This": You're often laid back and calm and thoughtful as Scum, As Town you can be a bit whiny and depressed if you're being suspected or ignored.

Today you're aggressive and angry. Is it because Mercury's in retrograde? I don't know what to make of it.

[Klingoncelt]

woah stop pressuring joint they're scum. I'd know because I've mislynched them a lot I think. plus they're just town anyway loll

anyways Kling you should ally wit me and stuff.

Also people vote Mastin pls VOTE: Mastin

I'll submit the ally request to Varsoon. You have to submit a request too.

Why are you voting Mastin? She's like 999% Town.

[Klingoncelt]

MAGENTA WOLF

declares that he will decide the lynch for today, and he currently believes he wants to lynch Mastin.

Anyone who disagrees with him is scum. Anyone who doesn't vote with him is stupid. Anyone who isn't him isn't a GOD.

Oh crap.

[Klingoncelt]

no kling is town

id bet my whole mafia career she isn't.
Like straight up.

That's a bad bet.

[Klingoncelt]

no kling is town

id bet my whole mafia career she isn't.
Like straight up.

id bet my whole mafia career that kling is town.

what are you gonna do when you lose.

I'd bet my whole mafia career one of you two is going to look really naive when KC flips.

Hint: It has scales and breathes fire and was once known as Mike.

[Klingoncelt]

Lynch the scumkelt

What's your case on me?

[Klingoncelt]

So dgb claimed scum and your not doing anything?

Who claims Scum in a PT right off the bat? I thought she was kidding.

Then she did it again, demanding that I try to get her lynched to prove that I'm Town.

[Klingoncelt]

So Klingoncelt, about that alliance with me

It looks like I'm hooking up with Killthestory.

I'd like to ally with you next, though, if I'm still alive.

[Klingoncelt]

So, is everyone going to lynch DrippingGoofball?

[Klingoncelt]

Oh come on D: I am sooooo much better as a pick. Ditch the kts and be with the most fun person around.

You win 100% money back guarantee.

I already submitted my request.

I can ally with you on Night 2 if you still want to.

[Klingoncelt]

So, DGB claims Traitor and isn't lynched yet?

Why?

[Klingoncelt]

You can't submit at day, it is a night request isn't it?

Varsoon often accepts requests in advance.

Oh - lynch DGB.

[Klingoncelt]

Kling, do you really believe DGB is a traitor?

She claimed Traitor in the PT. She thought I was one of the Scums.

[Klingoncelt]

So, is everyone going to lynch DrippingGoofball?

Nope!
^vig this

Anyone not voting DGB, or even considering it, is likely Scum.

[Klingoncelt]

KC I am ignoring you because I know you're town.

Why aren't you voting your Scumbuddy Cakes?

[Klingoncelt]

@KC: Do you believe that DGB is a scum traitor and she sincerely thought you were scum, and that as the traitor, she was willing to reveal herself in a PT which we were warned may be visible to unknown individuals in such a blatant fashion?
-Cerb

Yes.

Do you think those unknown individuals are likely to be Town?

I'd bet against it.

[Klingoncelt]

Klingon DGB was super obviously trolling lol

SirCakez is a good lynch choice too.

[Klingoncelt]

does that mean I could ally with Snarky rn?

Just remember to ally with me tonight.

[Klingoncelt]

I think its strikingly weird you agree with the case on Cakez, when its made by Mastin who you already say you disagree with.

What makes them right about Cakez but wrong about you? You just say she is wrong about it. You don't contemplate a real thing that most town players do when a person reads them wrong. That the chance is that other of their reads are likely also wrong.

(pssst - Fire... I think it's called busing...)

[Klingoncelt]

Psst kling your supposed to be faking a scum read on me

You're sick. I'll fake it again when you're better.

[Klingoncelt]

hey give me more attention I'm sick too

im just kidding get better fire

I'm sorry - I hope you get well soon too, Ally.

[Klingoncelt]

Kling, do you really believe DGB is a traitor?

I felt she was doing a reaction test. If you were scum, you might not have brought it to the main thread. I think it is a null reaction at best because you are smart enough to figure out it was a reaction test.

She claimed Traitor in the PT. She thought I was one of the Scums.

Klingon DGB was super obviously trolling lol

And this is possible as well.

This quote is wrong. I never said "

I felt she was doing a reaction test. If you were scum, you might not have brought it to the main thread. I think it is a null reaction at best because you are smart enough to figure out it was a reaction test.

"

I did say "

She claimed Traitor in the PT. She thought I was one of the Scums.

"

[Klingoncelt]

VOTECOUNT 1.13

SirCakez (10):

Not Chara, mastin2, Obi-Wan Kenobi, McMenno, Yume, grapes, Shiro, Firebringer, Reasonably Rational, SnarkySnowman

Shiro (4):

Farside22, Skybird, Almost50

Firebringer (2):

Klingoncelt

McMenno (2):

CooLDoG, Seraphim

Skybird (1):

Creature

Not Chara (1):

Kraskaeaque

Creature (1):

Xkfyu

Obi-Wan Kenobi (1):

SirCakez

Farside22 (1):

killthestory

Not Voting (4):

Foxbird, randomidget, TheWayItEnds, DrippingGoofball

With 25 Alive, it takes 13 to Lynch.
Deadline

: (expired on 2016-09-21 15:10:00)

The Current Stress is -1:

I am currently searching for a replacement for Seraphim.

Wait a minute - Varsoon - My vote isn't supposed to count, now it's counting and

twice

?

Well, if it's it's doing that now, then...

UNVOTE:
UNVOTE:

VOTE: SirCakez
VOTE: SirCakez

[Klingoncelt]

-@almost, how do you explain Klingon having two votes when she should have none according to her claim she should have none?

Great you admit this confusion is your fault. Talk to me about Cakey's lack if scumhunting.

Check my ISO against the vote counts. I voted for Gapes and for McMenno, neither one showed up. I never voted for Firebringer, did I? Hmm.

DGB said in the PT that she blocked my votes.

[Klingoncelt]

Check my ISO against the vote counts. I voted for Gapes and for McMenno, neither one showed up. I never voted for Firebringer, did I? Hmm.

Why did you vote me and mecmenno if you knew the votes wouldn't count?

Oh you're scum that's right, nevermind carry on.

Stop being an ass.

I didn't know my vote on you wouldn't work.

I dropped the vote on McMenno just to show that I cared.

I don't recall voting for Firebringer, though.

[Klingoncelt]

The "best townies" categories exclude Yume, so Yume was probably bus'ing or maybe even trolling.

Yume's like Masons with Mastin. Not Scum.

[Klingoncelt]

I was waiting for you, Titus. What did you mean by your last two posts in the last day?

I meant that if you had a neighborhood spy ability, that you'd tell me by the first words in your post. It kinda doesn't matter now since I don't have a hood.

If DGB is town, scum fucked with the alliance meaning scum intend to kill me. That's the logical explanation. Otherwise, DGB is scum.

Did I mention that DGB said she was a Traitor?

[Klingoncelt]

Cooldog, RR, and Klingoncelt are the names I'd support lynching today.

You don't want me lynched. You know I'm Town.

[Klingoncelt]

~Drixx

P.S. - Dealing with a healing Stage 2 Decubitus Ulcer (google at your own risk) and had the pleasure of seeing my town jail while day one was coming to a close, which is why I suddenly disappeared and didn't say anything.

I'm familiar with the term. Feel better soon, Drixx.

[Klingoncelt]

Last night notes:

(God, paraphrasing this took forever.)

...

Klingoncelt as town is capable of doing stuff, even early-on. I've seen it before. It might not necessarily be the best, usually some basic-level stuff. And, yes, her timezone means that the stuff she gives is usually later than what most give, with her constantly catching up. But she's still DOING STUFF.
And here, she...hasn't.

She's posted plenty!
But her posting's done literally nothing. At all.

Empty words have been thrown around. She'll give random things. She's rather defensive in what she'll share. But on the offense, there's nothing of substance. She's shown a high level of play that is entirely revolved around herself. Not the "me" type (see farside above) which is town, the "I care about nobody except myself", survivoresque type. Most of her content is in things regarding directly to her. The few instances which aren't are scattered throughout her iso and amount to nothing coherent. Things she says, she then does nothing about. No belief, no conviction, no push, no drive at all. Sitting around, actively lurking, and making no effort to further the gamestate. She's skating by.

In this case, when I isoed her, it's not that I couldn't give examples.
It's that I couldn't give an example of where it WASN'T. Seriously, iso her, see for yourself.

644 was content meant to look helpful doing nothing. 1542 is the first instance of anything which is anything, and yet it still amounts to nothing in the long-run. Just a vote on grapes for a bad reason, using a tone that sounded empty, flat, hollow, and artificial when asking to be sheeped. 1890 (which she only gave after she was pressured, mind you) is an insult to readslists everywhere because it's nothing of the sort. Then we get things like the ridiculous 2201, where Klingoncelt calls the attacks by Titus (Titus, who is using

the same logic

I

am

) to be harassment when they quite clearly aren't:
They're simply Titus sharing my opinion on Klingoncelt, that she is better than this as town. If you're generous, you can count 2205 as content...if you consider discrediting Titus as content. (Hey, not all content is good!) 2482 is another empty push. She's not doing anything to seriously push DGB.

Overall, there's a huge fucking difference between "I hit my stride on D3", a believable, reasonable stance to hold...
...And, "I do literally fuckall of nothing untill D3", what Klingoncelt is

claiming

she does as town. She's doing it, alright, but again: bullshit. The former is the actual truth.

...

I also typed up an explanation for why Firebringer is town, but it's not really relevant anymore, since his death is self-evident proof of that fact.

You forgot to mention that you were given proof that I'm Town.

If you're Town, that mean you're game-throwing.

If you're Town.


As for Firebringer, in the other SU game, where I replaced in for CoolDog, the Gems could "bubble" a player, removing the player from the game, BUT NOT NECESSARILY KILLING THE PLAYER.


If Mastin claims proof that FB is dead, why does she not claim proof that I'm Town? Curious.


On the subject of CoolDog, I replaced in for him in that other SU game. His ISO was the worst I'd ever seen - to the point which I was constantly checking my Role PM to make sure the slot was supposed to be Town. I can't believe he wasn't lynched, the play was worse than awful, so indescribably Scummy. The slot was Town Odd-Night Cop.

So in this game I have him at dead Null, I don't know what to think of him.

[Klingoncelt]

KC - Something was off about the response to the DGB thing. If I were KC, there's no way someone could claim to be a scum to me and live. KC barely pushed it. That isn't a town response, imo.


~Drixx

Liar.

I pushed it.

It was blown off as a gambit.

Everyone Townreads her.

So despite my being convinced that she's Scum, she'll likely make it to endgame.

[Klingoncelt]

Because of our interactions in the PT.

You claimed to be a traitor. There is no way a town!KC responds to that in any way other than going after you until you are dead. Please explain why KC would just be passive after you claimed that.

If you say it was a reaction test, then the question becomes why would you think the game should have a traitor, when I don't recall Varsoon using one before (although I haven't played EVERY Varsoon game so I could have missed it somewhere), and how could you convince KC that it was a reaction test and you weren't genuinely claiming in the belief that she was scum and could recruit you?

KC just doesn't make sense as town given what we know.

~D

I'm pretty sure that if I were Scum I'd have the team NK her that Night.

I might be stupid, but I'm not stupid enough to let a Traitor slip by. Especially with myself likely to be lynched, Mastina's calling for my head, you know. I'd hand the Traitor over to my Scum buddies faster than you can say Wat.

[Klingoncelt]

Cooldog, RR, and Klingoncelt are the names I'd support lynching today.

You don't want me lynched. You know I'm Town.

"i am not the scum you're looking for. you will let me go about my business. move along."

She was specifically targeted with information from my RolePM.

[Klingoncelt]

there was someone in this game who said that scum specialize in looking town in private topics they have with town. who was it that said that?

That would be me.

Coincidentally, I do not agree with DGB's townread on Klingoncelt!

You don't want me lynched. You know I'm Town.

You keep saying that, and yet, no, I really, really don't.

Information was sent about my RolePM, including that it wasn't a fakeclaim. I have confirmation that you got the information.

If I'm lynched or otherwise killed, I ask the Gems and anyone else that can Bubble or hide results to let me flip naturally.

Then Town can ask Mastin to explain herself.

[Klingoncelt]

You forgot to mention that you were given proof that I'm Town.

Except, no I wasn't.
And I'm under the impression alignment information

can't

be sent during the night phase. (And I have damn good reason to hold this belief, too!)
You're claiming to the contrary.

I was given confirmation. You have the info.

[Klingoncelt]

KC - Something was off about the response to the DGB thing. If I were KC, there's no way someone could claim to be a scum to me and live. KC barely pushed it. That isn't a town response, imo.


~Drixx

Liar.

I pushed it.

It was blown off as a gambit.

Everyone Townreads her.

So despite my being convinced that she's Scum, she'll likely make it to endgame.

People probably wouldn't have blown it off if you has bothered voting her.

Which you didn't do.

:/

-Cerb

I COULDN'T VOTE ON DAY ONE!!!!!

I tried voting for Grapes, and then tried to vote McMenno.

The votes never appeared. DGB took credit for that.

Then suddenly I had 2 votes on Firebringer, even though I didn't vote him.

Well, there were votes with my name on them, at least, so I took a chance and voted for Sir Cakes. The next VC the votes stayed on FB, but the VC after that they moved to Cakes. And the hammer came soon after.

So tell me, why would I vote for DGB at that stage in the game?

[Klingoncelt]

~Drixx

P-Edit - KC; you know I love you. Town you would not have let getting blown off stop you from pressing it. Remember that game where you and Varsoon both claimed miller and I told the game who was scum and exactly what you guys were doing?

One of Wake's games ... something about music in the title...

Every game is different, every one has a different cast of characters. In this game I'm not feeling at all cheerful or silly like I did in that one.

[Klingoncelt]

could you test your vote now?

I guess so -

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

[Klingoncelt]

@ALL

(Fit me into his creature scumread by saying he distanced me by sheeping me)

How many times did Shiro repeat this misrep BS? How many times did I explain it to her? How many times did she ignore my explanation and still phrased it the way she did.

THIS IS SCUM.

VOTE: Shirovote]

You might have something there.

Maybe I have something here:

bttw looking at the timeline with SirCakez being one of the Rubies, I think it is safish to assume that Peridot is town.

@Shiro

, connect those dots for me, please.

[Klingoncelt]

VOTE: TheWayItEnds

He hasn't voted the whole game. 12 posts, the most recent one was last Wednesday.

He may have siteflaked, though...

[Klingoncelt]

SirCakez's ability allowed him (and his team, later) to look for Jasper. i can't think of what this would indicate besides Jasper being the flavour of a traitor. (as she obviously is not a "Threat To Earth" if they would have to search for her) but the player with Jasper flavour could also in no way be aligned with earth.

if someone could think of a different thing Jasper could be, i am all ears. i brought this up because i hadn't seen it being spoken about, but there has been talk of a traitor between Klingoncelt and DGB.

Klingoncelt and DGB are both very suspicious to me.

DGB told me in the PT that she was the Traitor.

How could that make

me

look suspicious?

How could wanting her lynched

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

instead of NK'd make me look suspicious?


Oh, hey, this one's for

@Everyone:

I'm a Miller. What are the chances for a Godfather in the game?

[Klingoncelt]

Information was sent about my RolePM, including that it wasn't a fakeclaim. I have confirmation that you got the information.

Well here's news for you:
I didn't.

I got two PMs today.
One was confirming that I was in an alliance.
A second was V's standard daystart PM.

I also call bullshit about you being able to give info that is alignment-confirming. Because

I

have an ability that sounds an awful lot like yours, and I can't do that. You claim to be a miller, like me. And you claim to have the ability to send information, like me. But you are claiming that your ability can send information that confirms your alignment, which Varsoon went into explicit detail about how impossible it'd be for ME to do that.

So essentially: you're claiming to be a carbon copy of my role (save my episode ability), except stronger.
V having two millers, I'd believe. Giving those millers literally identical abilities except having one be stronger than the other, not so much. So, you've got some explaining to do. I received no information, and I'm under the distinct impression thanks to MY role that you can't do what you're claiming to.

You are lying.

In the first place, you aren't a Miller if you're a Mason.

In the second place, Yume said you've been "confirmed Town" even though Millers return Scum/guilty on checks.

So you aren't a Miller.

As to in the third place, it doesn't have to happen in game. Every bit of how you were informed and how much you were told will be clear, even if you deny viewing of your PT after the game. The info's in more places than that.



I'm having a harder and harder time believing you're Town. I think Yume was misinformed and shouldn't "confirmed" you as Town.

[Klingoncelt]

Should we be lynching Grandma then?

Certainly wouldn't be opposed; I laid out my reasons why.
But, she does get one chance to fullclaim and explain herself.

Perhaps I'll let you do the explaining after my flip.

Why aren't you voting DGB, the confessed Traitor?

[Klingoncelt]

The rr wagon is good
But a foxbird wagon is more pressing
She completely disregarded the most controversial wagons (not chara and cakes) at the time they were happening, and had convenient scumreads on lurker spots(xk and snarku). Nevermind that snarky was kinda obvious town at the time she dropped this scumread after his farside episode anyway

This is true of Klingon too.

I wasn't looking at XK and Snarky. I wasn't Scumreading lurkers.

I pointed out that

DGB CONFESSED TO BEING THE TRAITOR

also, I couldn't place a vote until the Day was nearly over.

Your lack of honesty rivals Mastin's.

[Klingoncelt]

btw, Did I mention that I received confirmation that Mastin got my rolePM information and proof that it's not a fakeclaim?

[Klingoncelt]

@Kling

The ruby squad came to earth after peridot joined the crystal gems so it is safe to assume that peridot is town.

From post 1:

"As a final note, all scum have guaranteed safe-claims and roles that fit the flavor of these fake-claims. Do not try to flavor-game this setup.
Scum all have had their flavor crafted before I crafted any of the town roles--I have built this setup around scum having effective, believable safe-claims.
Flavor-claims are not anywhere near the sort of town-clear that you might expect from other games.
Furthermore, I have given scum measures to punish players who are attempting to flavor-game the setup. Claim flavor at your own risk.
We are here to play mafia rendered under the flavor of Steven Universe--I will have no pity for anyone who takes the flavor as a means to attempt to outguess the moderator."

Any Gem can be Scum or Town. Except maybe Steven. Maybe.

[Klingoncelt]

srry I died

What do you mean?

Can you post in the Ally PT, please?

[Klingoncelt]

Klingon
What makes you think she was serious in the PT you two were together, What purpose did she have to reveal this?

She said she was sure I was Scum and that she was the Traitor. She wanted to be converted.

I thought she was kidding, and said as much, whereupon she dared me to post in the game thread and expose her as the Traitor and get her lynched. And she told me that she blocked my votes. The votes

were

blocked.

[Klingoncelt]

No. Tired Titus who may pass out any second. I need hugs and for Grandma to stop stalling.

Stalling?

What do you mean?

[Klingoncelt]

Klingon

supposing you are 100 percent right and she did make the traitor claim... Why should we not wait to lynch her or hope a vig might shoot her. Why should she be priority one our lynch list. ( oppose to scum hunting a bit more?)

Mastin-
You need to confirm or deny you are a Miller.........

Oh, she did definitely make the Traitor claim.

Do we want a Vig to shoot her hopefully? NO. HELL NO.

Do you want to give Scum a chance to recruit her?

Do we want to wait for her lynch? NO. HELL NO.

Do you want to give Scum a chance to recruit her?

[Klingoncelt]

Of the three simultaneous claims the only true one is ascetic.

First I told KC that she was mod-confirmed scum to me LOL

Then whined that I didn't know who all my buddies are, can she please name them?

If that had worked I'd be a hero

Post 5 you claimed Traitor. Post 9 you claimed that you get to Cop your Ally. Post 10 you took credit for taking my vote. Post 11 claimed "some kind of" Ascetic.

Time elapsed: 14 hours.

Not even close to simultaneous.

[Klingoncelt]

Klingon: is it true that DGB claimed you were mod-confirmed scum to her? was this before, after, or during her claim to you?

and if she was claiming you were mod-confirmed scum, why would you think the claim was anything but a lie?

I'M A MILLER. COPS WILL GET A GUILTY/NOT TOWN RESULT ON ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IS THERE ANYONE IN THIS GAME THAT KNOWS HOW THE MILLER ROLE WORKS?!?!?

[Klingoncelt]

btw, Did I mention that I received confirmation that Mastin got my rolePM information and proof that it's not a fakeclaim?

confirmation in what form?

because the implication that claimed mason mastin is withholding information that you're town is a little unbelievable.

I know it's hard to believe.

I'm not able to disclose how she was informed, or how I got confirmation. It has to wait until at least I flip,if not postgame.

[Klingoncelt]

Yes. I am compulsive town spectre. If I die by town I can stay and haunt beach city.

I lose my vote but each night, I choose a person to haunt. The following day I control their vote.

Sounds Scummy.

[Klingoncelt]

am i misremembering, or did Klingon claim miller today?

i am on a phone, so cannot easily ISO. however, in CoolDog's most recent game-advancing post before his flake, he made a confusing statement about mastin's flip somehow clearing me, thus making me a bad lynch for day 1?
i asked about it, but the rest of his posts were only promises to catchup.
it was strange, because it was worded like he knew i was town.

adding in the number of town players (by strong reads and confirmation) one my wagon early on and Cakez's own defense of me, i have to wonder if other members of the scumteam were doing so as well.

I claimed Miller in post 392, counter to Mastin's fake claim.

As for Cakes defending you, Scum often buddy up a Townie, it gives the Scum Towncred, and it makes the Townie the next lynch target after the Scum flips.

[Klingoncelt]

So bored.....D:

Someone talk to me.....

Hi, Yume. wazzup?

[Klingoncelt]

Hey Titus does kling do the silly thing as scum as well or mostly a town trait?

My silliness depends heavily on real life.

[Klingoncelt]

Loopdan replaces Cooldog, effective immediately.
Also, Titus replaces Obi-Wan Kenobi, notably.

Hi, Loopdan.

Hi, Titus.

[Klingoncelt]

Klingon: your yelling is noted. if you could answer

when

she claimed you were mod-confirmed scum?
and is there a reason you didn't claim your miller status on day 1? (or did you?)

Varsoon: thank you.

Post 4173

The post #9 claim to be able to cop her ally came at quarter past ten pm eastern, Saturday the tenth, in our Alliance PT.

[Klingoncelt]

Klingon.....
we know how millers work ...... there had to be some type of investigation going on or Goof got the answers from another source. So the question is how did she knows. did she mention anything in the PT

If Goof is a traitor why advertise it making it easier for scum to recruit. Why not find another way to get her lynched.

Post #9 in the PT she said she can cop her ally.

Ain't it a shame she's not allied today.

Advertising it means she gets lynched and therefore can't be recruited.

What another way is there than a full confession?

[Klingoncelt]

I'm not sure about Mastin's Miller-like claim though. The way my Role PM's worded, I'm pretty sure that

I'm

the Miller.

@KC: you said this during the prequel. Do you think DGB simply missed it?

-Cerb

I countered Mastin and Mastin counter-countered me, and we've been going back and forth the whole game. I think that DGB thought that I was fake-claiming.

[Klingoncelt]

hey don't mess with the style......
... a roll of toilet going down the hill

Post the video. I must see this.

[Klingoncelt]

Yes. I am compulsive town spectre. If I die by town I can stay and haunt beach city.

I lose my vote but each night, I choose a person to haunt. The following day I control their vote.

Sounds Scummy.

It's also a joke.

Oh. Good to know.

[Klingoncelt]

... Scum often buddy up a Townie, it gives the Scum Towncred, and it makes the Townie the next lynch target after the Scum flips.

Interesting. So why did not Chara pick up votes?

Not Chara didn't pick up votes. Probably because most people were Townreading her by the middle of Day1.

Or it could be because A50 and Farside were defending Cakes. They certainly drew a lot of attention.

[Klingoncelt]

Yea, truth is I am

Town reactionare

When anybody targets me with an action while stress is above 0 I reactionary use the same thing on them. This action fails if I am the action is the scum kill action unless it is full stress.

My even is extreme circumstances can be used at slice of life only. It will automatically raise stress to tragic destiny due to my paranoia of what is out there.

Generally, anti-town Episode Events and outcomes will move the stress meter towards 'Tragic Destiny.'
Pro-town Episode Events and outcomes will move the stress meter towards 'Slice of Life'.

Hmm...

[Klingoncelt]

2nd quote is from Varsoon, post 1

[Klingoncelt]

Sorry my quotes got mixed around.
Kling: how many claims did dgb make to you?
Dgb: how did you know day when when to send in for allying and why didn't you do it day 2?

She claimed Traitor twice.

She claimed Ally Day Cop once. Too bad she failed to ally with Titus, it would have helped with her Ally Daycop claim. Now that she's outed it won't be as useful.

She claimed to be in control of my vote once. It's true, my vote didn't work until near the end of the Day.

She claimed to be some kind of ascetic once.

[Klingoncelt]

OK, I have a little confession to make: I had TEMPORARY control over the Peridot Twitter thing for precisely this one tweet, and I was laughing over the fact it did get posted exactly the way I phrased it.

Peridot @Peridot5xg tweeted: Sale: Pizza slice for a buck! Coolest offer you could ever get in Beach City.

Exactly how were you given this ability?

Who has it now?

[Klingoncelt]

I forgot at least.

Several = at least four.

Okay, so how did you come up with the 'at least' number?

Titus, this is not looking good for you.

[Klingoncelt]

I forgot at least.

Several = at least four.

that's an interesting definition. where did you get it?
sources i just googled say something along the lines of "more than two but not many" as what the word 'several' implies.
so, at least three. not four.

why did 'several' make you think of four?

Because that's what I think of when I hear several...

No. That's not good enough. You know better. You would have just said "several."

You Scumslipped.

[Klingoncelt]

This will need some "undesirable" explanation in public. I'll tell you what. Me and Shiro should be allying with eachother tomorrow, and I will tell you if we are 100% confirming eachother by then. For the explanation, that would need me to ally with you yourself.

She already 100% confirmed Peridot.

You claimed to be Peridot ONE time. Who was Peridot the other times?

You and Shiro should each ally with someone else, some players that can confirm each of you separately.

Because I'm positive you'd vouch for each other given half a chance.

Who was Peridot the other times?

[Klingoncelt]

Peridot isn't one of the "good" Gems.

Peridot is corrupted.

[Klingoncelt]

Hi, MathBlade.

[Klingoncelt]

I'd probably do a Grapes, DGB, RR for the season finale.

So... you Townread a confessed Traitor.

Town Titus would have tunneled the living fuck out of DGB by now.

[Klingoncelt]

dammit kling is a she.

also kling is not scum stop.

please.

or else ill have to reveal my ultra powerful orle.

I don't think we're lynching Klingon today, so I think we can give you some time to explain why she cannot confirm Mastina as town, when Mastina (who is conftown) said she should. I find it off that you say she is. The only thing that gives me pause is the flail here. I wouldn't lose sleep if she was lynched.

Titus, what the hell shade are you trying to manufacture here?

Mastin is near-C-word Town by mechanics. Same with Yume.

I'm having a really hard time with Mastin because even though she was given my role info she claims I'm Scum. I don't know what the fuck is going through that little snowball's mind, but the problem isn't on my end. I even told her that proof of her knowing my role, confirmation that she got the info, is in a thread that will definitely be readable after the game ends.
She hasn't posted much since I said that last part.
I don't think it's a matter of her being Scum, I think she harbors grudges. Grudges aren't worth gamethrowing.

[Klingoncelt]

dammit kling is a she.

also kling is not scum stop.

please.

or else ill have to reveal my ultra powerful orle.

I don't think we're lynching Klingon today, so I think we can give you some time to explain why she cannot confirm Mastina as town, when Mastina (who is conftown) said she should. I find it off that you say she is. The only thing that gives me pause is the flail here. I wouldn't lose sleep if she was lynched.

my hangup with Klingon is her claiming such a thing at all. considering you know her better than i do: would she lie about something like this as scum?

As Scum this early in the game I'd be happy to park on a likely mislynch wagon that someone else started.

[Klingoncelt]

dammit kling is a she.

also kling is not scum stop.

please.

or else ill have to reveal my ultra powerful orle.

I don't think we're lynching Klingon today, so I think we can give you some time to explain why she cannot confirm Mastina as town, when Mastina (who is conftown) said she should. I find it off that you say she is. The only thing that gives me pause is the flail here. I wouldn't lose sleep if she was lynched.

Titus, what the hell shade are you trying to manufacture here?

Mastin is near-C-word Town by mechanics. Same with Yume.

I'm having a really hard time with Mastin because even though she was given my role info she claims I'm Scum. I don't know what the fuck is going through that little snowball's mind, but the problem isn't on my end. I even told her that proof of her knowing my role, confirmation that she got the info, is in a thread that will definitely be readable after the game ends.
She hasn't posted much since I said that last part.
I don't think it's a matter of her being Scum, I think she harbors grudges. Grudges aren't worth gamethrowing.

Klingon, why aren't you considering the possibility that your action was interfered with?

-Cerb

It definitely was not interfered with.

Mastin knows.

Period.

[Klingoncelt]

As for kling the thing with dgb and her is weird. The late miller claim is questionable, sometimes when I read kling post I feel like I'm reading someone playing a completely different game.

Late?

LATE???

Post392, my 3rd post, 16 pages into the prequel phase.

Terribly late.

Yeah.

[Klingoncelt]

As I said I don't do hypothetical. Now if you are asking me who I vote to lynch if I had the hammer vote with these two wagon I would prob pick Klingon, The idea is to hope to lynch Klingon and hope to get a fake miler. Both players are playing so weird it is hard to get a good read on either one. Both players are not making a lot of sense,

What "both?"

DGB's been largely silent on the matter.

[Klingoncelt]

Pretty sure almost's definition of confirmed town is different than most.

it really wasn't hard when virtually no one questions it, and that worries me.

Pretty sure almost's definition of confirmed town is different than most.

i remember him referring to players he strongly views as town as confirmed town.

[Klingoncelt]

I am really very sorry to do this, but I need to do a site-wide replace out of all my games. I have some things in RL that just have to be dealt with and that take precedence over this.

I'll try and come back to MS once this settles down, but I cannot say when that could be, so VLA just wouldn't be fair to you. Again, my apologies. I know some of you were waiting for my catchup to move forward. Please give my replacement a chance. You want this role alive.

@mod-- Please replace me.

Best wishes, Loopdan. I hope all goes well.

[Klingoncelt]

I personally believe that it is likely that we have a mix of active and inactive scum. I cant just buy into the idea we have lurking scum. I would be surprised if that is true

RR
I know I am hard to understand........If you have any questions that will help you understand me this game just post them and I will try to answer them.

Having two millers just seems kind of odd however knowing Vasoon and his style it is possible that this is true,

I hate I cant flavor break this game like we did last game...Curse you Vasoon

Mastin's more of a Mason.

Lynching either of us would be bad. The best way to know would be to cop the two of us.

Problem is that it would out a Cop.

So... any suggestions?

[Klingoncelt]

to be honest

from what you are saying it sounds like she might be just claiming a bunch of random roles bc the whole thing makes zero sense. I believe you think she is a traitor but as I said it kinda sound like she just claiming for claiming shake, Can you explain why we should not think DBG is being goofy and not just claiming for whatever reason.

*sigh*

She claimed that she was the Traitor. She said she could cop her ally and I came back as Scum.

(Well fucking duh, I'm a Miller, of course I'll investigate as Scum.)

She told me that she took my vote (I'd already noticed it was missing) and then she claimed Ascetic.


All of that is credible if she's Scum.

How credible is it if she's Town pulling some weirdass gambit?

She never denied any of what I said here in the game thread about our exchange, just kinda laughed it off and went into lurk mode.

Why hasn't she been lynched yet?

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

[Klingoncelt]

I forgot at least.

Several = at least four.

Okay, so how did you come up with the 'at least' number?

Titus, this is not looking good for you.

My gut. My gut. My lovely lady gut.

I am looking fine tyvm. Farside read darling?

Leaning Town.

[Klingoncelt]

@Klingoncelt

Peridot joined the crystal gems and since doc ruby was a flavour this game takes part in that part in the late part of the timeline. Peridot is w crystal gem.
Corrupt is actually something she has never been. She was a homeworld gem not a corrupt one. Corrupt ones are monsters.

A50 is claiming Crystal Gem?

[Klingoncelt]

I am a miller.
I sure fit that description far better than you ever could.

But I am nonetheless a mason.

How hard is it to fit the description? It's not much of a glam role.

[Klingoncelt]

What evidence do you have of that?

I can't disclose the exact nature of that right now. Rules.

[Klingoncelt]

I also didn't realize klingon was on the cakes wagon.

That's pretty interesting.

It's already been explained. Has to do with my vote being stolen.

ISO me.

[Klingoncelt]

Okay it was clearly before.

Better question. Did she act like she didn't know you claimed miller?

She acted like she didn't believe my claim.

[Klingoncelt]

McMenno likely town

Almost 50 probably town for the SirCakez alignment poke

One of Kling or Mastina leaning Mastina is scum because of miller crap. Leaning Mastina.

Mastin's ObvTown. Presumed confirmed.

[Klingoncelt]

Shiro, Almost50

- are you guys claiming Crystal Gems?

[Klingoncelt]

Fuck this it's 1 am I'm going to bed. I'll pick up after work and try to post as I can over my lunch break.

@Klingon -- k. I haven't gotten that far yet to see the obvtownie ness. Will note that you think that as I read tomorrow.

Yume confirms her in their Neighborhood.

[Klingoncelt]

Shiro, Almost50

- are you guys claiming Crystal Gems?

Uhm no?

I just corrected your flavour. Peridot is not a corrupt gem. Not at the point in time this game is based on.

A50 said he was Peridot one time.

You seem to also have access to Peridot. Are you therefore claiming to be Crystal Gems?

[Klingoncelt]

Okay it was clearly before.

Better question. Did she act like she didn't know you claimed miller?

She acted like she didn't believe my claim.

Okay yea I get that you guys are hot on each other for scum but did it

look

like she was trying to gambit you and get info and help town yadda yadda.

Be unbiased as possible here.

Because not believing the claim doesn't really answer my question.

Why the fuck can't anyone in this fucking game fucking read the fucking other fucking players' fucking ISOs?

She said she investigated me and I came back Scum.

I replied, yes, I'm a Miller, I'll investigate as Scum.

She then acted like she did not believe my claim.

She never said "You never claimed Miller!!!!" if that's what you're asking.

[Klingoncelt]

She then acted like she did not believe my claim.

She never said "You never claimed Miller!!!!" if that's what you're asking.

Yea you keep ending the story there.

What does "act like she didn't believe the claim" entail.

Put me in that moment.

I already know you think she's scum. I'm not sold honestly and don't really care about your spin on why she's scum. I want to know what exactly went down.

I'd have to quote the PT, that's not allowed.

[Klingoncelt]

She already 100% confirmed Peridot.

Who confirmed Peridot??

the peridot twitter account is clearly controlled by a player

and I'm pretty sure that that player's scum

@PERIDOT5XG lol girl #patience

I want to vouch peridot is town.

I am pretty sure peridot is trolling.

... In regards to Peridot, remember Patches the Spider

I mean we all.kinda knew patches wasn't town. We knew he was 3p or scum, what is your point here?

... Me and Shiro should be allying with eachother tomorrow, and I will tell you if we are 100% confirming eachother by then. ...

I do not really see how you see me as conf town, I got fairly certain because of specific flavour and mechanic reasons but you towards me?I dun get it but I will wait for tommorow.

Peridot joined the crystal gems and since doc ruby was a flavour this game takes part in that part in the late part of the timeline. Peridot is w crystal gem.
Corrupt is actually something she has never been. She was a homeworld gem not a corrupt one. Corrupt ones are monsters.

Shiro, Almost50

- are you guys claiming Crystal Gems?

Uhm no?

I just corrected your flavour. Peridot is not a corrupt gem. Not at the point in time this game is based on.

A50 said he was Peridot one time.

You seem to also have access to Peridot. Are you therefore claiming to be Crystal Gems?

Wth? I never said I had access to the twitter. Almost said he did once. Not that he is peridot.

bttw looking at the timeline with SirCakez being one of the Rubies, I think it is safish to assume that Peridot is town.

[Klingoncelt]

You claimed to be Peridot ONE time. Who was Peridot the other times?

I claimed to "have had access to the blog/twitter account", not that I was Peridot.

And how would I know who else might've been given access? If you hadn't realized it; people give people stuff in this game, and you don't necessarily know who gave you this particular thing.

That's not how Varsoon uses his dummy players.

I was on the Scumteam in Suikoden, Lickety controlled Bright the Barking Dragon. In Bloodborne I was on the Scumteam, I controlled Plain Doll and my Scummate Nahdia controlled Patches.

No one else was given access, certainly not random Townies.

Shiro jumped out of nowhere with posts 3173 and 3991.

She knew what Peridot was by then.

Before everyone else in the game except you.

But she had no way of knowing you had control of Peridot for 1 time only, did she? You two would have to have a PT, or you'd have to announce it in the game thread for Shiro to know.

Why did Shiro care about Peridot?

[Klingoncelt]

You and Shiro should each ally with someone else, some players that can confirm each of you separately.

I think I'd rather ally with someone I know to be town. Thank you very much. It's bad enough I already lost my one and only cool event, and for me to stay in-play I would need to discuss my moon-logic with someone I can trust.

I bet it would be even better if you could fuse with a ScumGem.

[Klingoncelt]

Because I'm positive you'd vouch for each other given half a chance.

Why do you think that's bad, and especially considering I now also got Titus vouching for me (and I for her)?

If she's not Scum, then she's made the wrong choice with you two.

[Klingoncelt]

Peridot isn't one of the "good" Gems.

Peridot is corrupted.

I'll be honest: I'm not sure if Peridot is good, bad or neutral. I'm not even sure if it's a separate role/spot.

Uh-huh, and screaming monkeys fly out of my butt.

[Klingoncelt]

Peridot isn't one of the "good" Gems.

Peridot is corrupted.

I'll be honest: I'm not sure if Peridot is good, bad or neutral. I'm not even sure if it's a separate role/spot.

A Google search does not indicate corruption.

A game thread search does.

[Klingoncelt]

Peridot joined the crystal gems and since doc ruby was a flavour this game takes part in that part in the late part of the timeline. Peridot is w crystal gem.

Although I'm leaning that way, I'd just want to say we don't KNOW that. Not yet, anyway. According to the wiki Peridot was a Homeworld Gem that defied their leader and later on joined the Crystal Gems. That would suggest she might be a Crystal Gem, yes.. but she might not. You do know how Varsoon messes with his roles, so be careful what you assume.

Don't give yourself a hernia moving those goalposts.

[Klingoncelt]

So why would Klingon say otherwise?

Because I'm certain that Peridot is Scum-controlled.

[Klingoncelt]

@Klingoncelt

Peridot joined the crystal gems and since doc ruby was a flavour this game takes part in that part in the late part of the timeline. Peridot is w crystal gem.
Corrupt is actually something she has never been. She was a homeworld gem not a corrupt one. Corrupt ones are monsters.

A50 is claiming Crystal Gem?

Can you PLEASE stop ROLE FISHING and try to SCUM HUNT? I claimed nothing of the sort.

I am Scumhunting. I found 2.

Which of you or Shiro should go first?

[Klingoncelt]

And let's not forget DGB.

[Klingoncelt]

Shiro, Almost50

- are you guys claiming Crystal Gems?

I'm not. Are you?

Yeah, I'm a Crystal Gem Miller.

[Klingoncelt]

Aren't you a ball of info.
You join this game to play or just fill a spot?
I'm just curious if you at some point will say something about reads at all.

Well i joined this game to play.

but my playstyle is generally to fill a slot until day 2/3 unless someone fucks up early game and i have to get involved earlier.

plus as far as im concerned we're just waiting around for you to shoot someone today yeah?

TheWayItEnds

What do you think of my case against Shiro and Almost50?

[Klingoncelt]

She said she investigated me and I came back Scum.

Right... here's my Daycop claim too LOL

You didn't claim DayCop, you claimed you could Cop your Ally.

Slightly different things.

[Klingoncelt]

I will have a substantial post tomorrow, a lot of stuff to deal with today.

This is definitely scum

this is a generic post i've seen several times. and i've been on this site for a month. it indicates 'about to flake or replace out', and not much else. have you never seen town say this?

You guys should read up on CooLDog in the Steven Universe Mafia game:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... n+universe

ISO: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... ct[]=12176