STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[SirCakez]

"grapes hasn't investigated or attempted to sort reads with anyone this game" is what i was agreeing with.
also "hey, this is true. yes, grapes is scum. thank you. :>" was partially sarcasm. the thank you part.

This first part is outright false, and is easily

Another player call cakes giving surface level reads.

Your calling that fucking town.
Your letting that lurk while you howl at all that they need to agree with you or explain themselves.

I think this was aimed at me.
I was not lurking, I was at school where I don't have MS access, and then I was on a bike ride all afternoon because it was nice out. So, not lurking.

If we somehow don't lynch chara today I'm allying him again so he can't use his scumfuck alliance ability or w/e.

It probably wouldn't ally you again if it's scum, you realize?

This compromise is hogwash according to the rules.

Why can't Cakey be the one to align with grapes? After all, those two are townreading each other so something productive may come of us.

A grapes/NC alliance just kills talking in a hood guaranteed.

Me allying with Grapes is a stupid idea.
Almost50 can confirm this.

EVERYONE NOT VOTING CHARA CAKES OR RR EXPLAIN WHY THEY'RE TOWN OR HOP THE FUCK OFF YOUR SHITTY VANITY WAGON THANKS

RR is still stupidly null. I'll have to make a concerted effort to try to read them and I really don't want to mess with that today, especially considering my questionable record reading Cerb (see: open 623, space dandy 2).
My problem with voting NC is that Obi is pushing them hard and Obi is a stronger scumread for me then Chara. I know Titus doesn't like bussing, so I'm hesitant to go to NC.

I came around on Cakey as being a partner of NC due to the rule of 3.
DGB I kinda get. I haven't seen anything scummy from them though.
I doubt RR is scum, but I respect your opinion they are playing me.
CoolDog I just can't trust in my gut.
I agree on KTS town but I understand Beeboy's concerns (which I can't relay without ruining our entire game; don't ask).

Right now I'm at Creature + NC + Cakey + Redacted as a team but Redacted is withheld due to being a moonshot right now.

This is another weak readslist from Obi.
The scumread on me sounds like it's made up to fit with the general consensus of the town. "Rule of 3" is sketchy as hell.
DGB and RR reads are fencesits
The CoolDog scumread (?) is just "can't trust them" which also stinks.

P-edit: NC's last post also feels like dejected town, kinda like how I react when I'm about to be mislynched. I'm a sucker for AtE though.

[Firebringer]

When the game is over.
We'll see who was the one tunneling.
Hint: it aint the multiple people all agreeing for different, yet augmentative, reasons.

you smell.

[Not Chara]

Spoiler: unrelated to game

i just wanted to thank any players, town or scum, that are using my pronouns in the thread. it's one of the many reasons i will be staying on this site for a long while, i think. especially those who have told other players to use them. if i haven't responded to you before, i am grateful, and this is my response.

[SirCakez]

So
Yume has moved to town since Mastin apparently has something that makes her town
Sera is up to nulltown for that really good post he made
NC is down to null for the reasons I explained in the catchup, no longer nullscum because of the Obi push + it's last reaction feels legit
I am moving CoolDog down to null because I'm not sure where my nulltown read on him came from in the first place and he seems to be avoiding the real points of contention, i;e what his read on NC and RR are
I don't buy KTS's IC claim at all so he stays null

So yeah my scumreads remain the same
There is probably at least 2 scum among my nulls

Town: Fire, mastin, grapes, farside, Yume
Nulltown: Creature, Klingon, A50, Seraphim
Null: Kraskaesque, KTS, Foxbird, Skybird, Seraphim, Random, TWIE, Shiro, DGB, NC, CoolDog
Nullscum: Xkfyu, Snarky
Scum: McMenno, Obi

[mastin2]

Basically I think mastin is town but not telling the whole truth.

Naturally I'm not telling the whole truth. I didn't fullclaim, after all. I specifically said I wouldn't.
All the same, this doesn't change my statement. Yume is, 100%, no doubt, unambiguously, town. THAT, my friend, is no lie or exaggeration.
So, dealwithit.
You don't like Yume's play, tough. But Yume's town, so you're going to have to live with it because Yume's never getting lynched. Ever.

[Creature]

Okay, you're town.

VOTE: Obi-Wannabe

[Creature]

^ for Cakez

[Firebringer]

You don't like Yume's play, tough. But Yume's town, so you're going to have to live with it because Yume's never getting lynched. Ever.

I cried a little inside when I read this.

[Creature]

Oh right, where's McMenno?

[mastin2]

EVERYONE NOT VOTING CHARA CAKES OR RR EXPLAIN WHY THEY'RE TOWN OR HOP THE FUCK OFF YOUR SHITTY VANITY WAGON THANKS

Oh god yes.
At this point I'd endorse your death before mine because you've earned it with elegance like this.
This is my sentiments exactly.

[Firebringer]

Town: Fire, mastin, grapes, farside, Yume

Cakez put me as scum, I have you as scum.
its only fair.

[farside22]

You don't like Yume's play, tough. But Yume's town, so you're going to have to live with it because Yume's never getting lynched. Ever.

I cried a little inside when I read this.

Me too.

You want to bet scum win this now?

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Spoiler: Not Game Related to NC

This site has a thread for gender nonconformists. Get access to the speakeasy, it. Then you will find more support.

[SirCakez]

Town: Fire, mastin, grapes, farside, Yume

Cakez put me as scum, I have you as scum.
its only fair.

No, you're obviously town and I don't fake reads as town (cough Titus college mafia cough)

A little more about NC: I think it's flip would be very informative, but I don't want to info lynch now because I've got some strong scumreads that need death a lot more then NC.

[Firebringer]

You don't like Yume's play, tough. But Yume's town, so you're going to have to live with it because Yume's never getting lynched. Ever.

I cried a little inside when I read this.

Me too.

You want to bet scum win this now?

I mean statistically scum win Large Themes with such a high degree that its laughable
Current win rate for scum on Large Theme for last games I kept track of was 12/14 games.

So based on that trend. Guess who is likely winning this?!?!?!?!

[farside22]

i give up.

that doesn't mean i'm going anywhere. i'll be here to talk all night. if SirCakez is scum then i'll buy OWK as town. out of my 'buddies', SirCakez is the one most likely to be scum. i don't even know if anyone is townreading him anymore. Rational could also be scum but honestly i'd rather see them investigated, or something. i'd say something snide about OWK at this point but i promised myself i wouldn't interact with them anymore.
i almost want to be lynched just to watch mastin, OWK, and grapes experience some form of online whiplash. for varying reasons, because mastin is town.

for the record, i don't think i'll be lynched today. those who have expressed support have already voted. there might be a few lazy stragglers/lurking scum who might join, but i don't see them reaching a majority. i'll see if i can't continue to put my foot in my mouth for the rest of the day, though.

town i am 95% sure on is Firebringer, farside, Yume, mastin, and Seraphim.
i am 100% certain there is a scum on my wagon. it's probably grapes. it could be grapes and OWK. it is... possibly Almost50, but if both grapes and OWK are scum i would not bet money on it.

VOTE: SirCakez

pedit: oh, fantastic. Cakez changed his read on me after one post while i was typing this. now this will look reactionary. because this game wasn't difficult enough.
Skybird, we aren't having a fight. grapes is scum. i outed that because they're scum and also because grapes was looking to ally with other town players.

This is town as fuck
Deal with it.

[Not Chara]

You don't like Yume's play, tough. But Yume's town, so you're going to have to live with it because Yume's never getting lynched. Ever.

I cried a little inside when I read this.

Me too.

You want to bet scum win this now?

i hope that mastin had to choose Yume, and did not make this choice herself.

because, while i don't want to offend Yume, i just don't find it very helpful to... not really have reads. or, to have reads that she has said she isn't confident in. play like this is really only functioning as giving mastin a double-vote.

pedit: farside, you've said everything i've done is town or NAI. i don't see how those voting me will suddenly start listening to you.

[Not Chara]

You don't like Yume's play, tough. But Yume's town, so you're going to have to live with it because Yume's never getting lynched. Ever.

I cried a little inside when I read this.

Me too.

You want to bet scum win this now?

I mean statistically scum win Large Themes with such a high degree that its laughable
Current win rate for scum on Large Theme for last games I kept track of was 12/14 games.

So based on that trend. Guess who is likely winning this?!?!?!?!

is there somewhere i could find statistics? this is depressing.

[Almost50]

If any of my townreads are down. Would like a new ally.

I guess I can give it a shot. SC has not been talking much to me so far, and it feels like my first episode alliance with him didn't even help me get a more confident read about him

I had thought of him to be town based on the very fact he requested to ally with me. I'm usually suspicious of him bc whenever we play in the same game we're of different alignments. This has been the case in most of our previous games together and it lead me to always be suspicious of him, so wanting to be in a PT with me I thought meant he was town for sure.

But the lack of communication in that PT is starting to worry me. I have yet to check beyond this post I'm responding to to see if he had been posting in this game at all.

[Firebringer]

is there somewhere i could find statistics? this is depressing.

I don't think anyone keeps track of it.
This is just something I tracked for games either I watched/participated in/modded.

[Creature]

Scum usually wins Large Theme because there are often a bunch of lynchbaits and scum likes to kill players who put a lot of effort into the game leaving who doesn't want to do anything to LyLo.

[SirCakez]

If any of my townreads are down. Would like a new ally.

I guess I can give it a shot. SC has not been talking much to me so far, and it feels like my first episode alliance with him didn't even help me get a more confident read about him

I had thought of him to be town based on the very fact he requested to ally with me. I'm usually suspicious of him bc whenever we play in the same game we're of different alignments. This has been the case in most of our previous games together and it lead me to always be suspicious of him, so wanting to be in a PT with me I thought meant he was town for sure.

But the lack of communication in that PT is starting to worry me. I have yet to check beyond this post I'm responding to to see if he had been posting in this game at all.

Check back there

[farside22]

"grapes hasn't investigated or attempted to sort reads with anyone this game" is what i was agreeing with.
also "hey, this is true. yes, grapes is scum. thank you. :>" was partially sarcasm. the thank you part.

This first part is outright false, and is easily

Another player call cakes giving surface level reads.

Your calling that fucking town.
Your letting that lurk while you howl at all that they need to agree with you or explain themselves.

I think this was aimed at me.
I was not lurking, I was at school where I don't have MS access, and then I was on a bike ride all afternoon because it was nice out. So, not lurking.

If we somehow don't lynch chara today I'm allying him again so he can't use his scumfuck alliance ability or w/e.

It probably wouldn't ally you again if it's scum, you realize?

This compromise is hogwash according to the rules.

Why can't Cakey be the one to align with grapes? After all, those two are townreading each other so something productive may come of us.

A grapes/NC alliance just kills talking in a hood guaranteed.

Me allying with Grapes is a stupid idea.
Almost50 can confirm this.

EVERYONE NOT VOTING CHARA CAKES OR RR EXPLAIN WHY THEY'RE TOWN OR HOP THE FUCK OFF YOUR SHITTY VANITY WAGON THANKS

RR is still stupidly null. I'll have to make a concerted effort to try to read them and I really don't want to mess with that today, especially considering my questionable record reading Cerb (see: open 623, space dandy 2).
My problem with voting NC is that Obi is pushing them hard and Obi is a stronger scumread for me then Chara. I know Titus doesn't like bussing, so I'm hesitant to go to NC.

I came around on Cakey as being a partner of NC due to the rule of 3.
DGB I kinda get. I haven't seen anything scummy from them though.
I doubt RR is scum, but I respect your opinion they are playing me.
CoolDog I just can't trust in my gut.
I agree on KTS town but I understand Beeboy's concerns (which I can't relay without ruining our entire game; don't ask).

Right now I'm at Creature + NC + Cakey + Redacted as a team but Redacted is withheld due to being a moonshot right now.

This is another weak readslist from Obi.
The scumread on me sounds like it's made up to fit with the general consensus of the town. "Rule of 3" is sketchy as hell.
DGB and RR reads are fencesits
The CoolDog scumread (?) is just "can't trust them" which also stinks.

P-edit: NC's last post also feels like dejected town, kinda like how I react when I'm about to be mislynched. I'm a sucker for AtE though.

You are the setup face level reader.
Not the lurk sack

Spoiler: unrelated to game

i just wanted to thank any players, town or scum, that are using my pronouns in the thread. it's one of the many reasons i will be staying on this site for a long while, i think. especially those who have told other players to use them. if i haven't responded to you before, i am grateful, and this is my response.

Again sorry about that nc.

[mastin2]

By the way: the number of secret weapons I have against the scum in my readslist has increased from one to two.
There's two things they now all have in common.
Admittedly, they're related things.

But they're separate, and it'd be nice to reveal to you all what they are right now, but I need some patience to make sure I'm right in my inclinations right now.

[farside22]

Scum usually wins Large Theme because there are often a bunch of lynchbaits and scum likes to kill players who put a lot of effort into the game leaving who doesn't want to do anything to LyLo.

We should be lynching lurkers then.