Mini 1813 - Overwatch Mafia! TOWN WINS

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VOTE: Fox

omgus

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Moving on to more important matters, don't take me to l-1, you'd be lynching me.
Yes, I am hated.

That kills RVS I guess lol

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you'd be lynching me.
Yes, I am hated.

Do you mean character wise?
I actually have little knowledge of the game, so if so this won't mean a lot to me.

Don't know if its related to my character or not, as I don't know anything about overwatch. It's a passive "ability".

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Hello all, I am going to be fairly active in this game.
Considering all thats going on here is RVS I will just throw out some random questions for you guys:

1) How do you think this game was balanced as far as numbers?
2) Do you have a negative utility to the town you want to claim now?
3) Do you believe theres a point to full claiming in this game if we are about to be lynched?

10-3/9-2-2/9-3-1(TP)/11-2(Scum have very powerful roles)

Done already

Should always claim

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Oh by the way, no matter what happens in this game today, I am today's lynch.
We can form reads all we want, but we are lynching me today.
Remember that, folks.

Dafaq what..?

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That's my line!

Ok, I have a question for you Tracer, did you create your account before or after receiving your role PM?

This post is so bad, it's paranoid scum trying to look busy.

VOTE: Spring

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That's my line!

Ok, I have a question for you Tracer, did you create your account before or after receiving your role PM?

This post is so bad, it's paranoid scum trying to look busy.

VOTE: Spring

Paranoid scum?

Paranoid that they'll be read as scum for not posting content, moving the game forward etc.

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Uhm I havent been able to keep up because of work and playing actual overwatch, can someone fill me in?

Yes, the fact that you're scum.

VOTE: Pepper

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1) RQS is always scummy

Surely that is wifom, if it's a thing you expect scum to do, why would they do it?

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Tracer today and Pepper tomorrow.

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VOTE: Pepper

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VOTE: Doctorpepper

I'm with turret here

Huh?

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Wake's confusion about the lynch confuses me, too, but why are people reading it as scummy? I feel like I missed something important.

I'm also not sure if I 100% trust Tracer. Yeah, the deathproof thing happened, but she's done nothing except advocate for her own death all D1 and no scumhunting or detailed reads at all. Plus, I'm paranoid that she's just crumbing being a traitor to scum and the recruit has nothing to do with that ability. Either way, we cannot allow her to live to LyLo.

I agree that flavor reveal is bad. There've been hints that some characters share mechanical connections, so there might be Enablers etc. that we probably wanna keep secret. If someone has a flavor/ability that has positive outcome if outed, do so, but it's too early for everything else.

Actually If there are 3 scum i wouldnt know who the third one is

Can we even be sure flavor indicates alignment? D.Va scum/traitor would make no sense lore-wise, yet it seems to be a thing.

Turret vote doesn't

have

to come from town. It's conveniently placed on D1's second largest wagon, so if we disregard flavor, it can come from either side.

Why would scum use that ability on day 2 itself if they had turret ? Why not save it for lylo enabling them a fairly easy hammer?

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Wake's confusion about the lynch confuses me, too, but why are people reading it as scummy? I feel like I missed something important.

I'm also not sure if I 100% trust Tracer. Yeah, the deathproof thing happened, but she's done nothing except advocate for her own death all D1 and no scumhunting or detailed reads at all. Plus, I'm paranoid that she's just crumbing being a traitor to scum and the recruit has nothing to do with that ability. Either way, we cannot allow her to live to LyLo.

I agree that flavor reveal is bad. There've been hints that some characters share mechanical connections, so there might be Enablers etc. that we probably wanna keep secret. If someone has a flavor/ability that has positive outcome if outed, do so, but it's too early for everything else.

Actually If there are 3 scum i wouldnt know who the third one is

Can we even be sure flavor indicates alignment? D.Va scum/traitor would make no sense lore-wise, yet it seems to be a thing.

Turret vote doesn't

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to come from town. It's conveniently placed on D1's second largest wagon, so if we disregard flavor, it can come from either side.

Very good players also tend to be the target of town PRs, esp on night 1.
Killing someone like that is always risky.

DGB might have been onto something, gonna iso that slot tomorrow.

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Why would scum use that ability on day 2 itself if they had turret ? Why not save it for lylo enabling them a fairly easy hammer?

Who said it's a one use?

Nobody did, it is a probability.
Still, why expose the ability if it was a scum ability.
Gives town more info.

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I am also unsure of why Shadow_Step is a townread.

I went over ISO more found the answer to this question, so disregard it.

Anyways, it is notable that Shadow_Step pressence has been lacking in this game, but I believe he is active elsewhere. That means a few things of either 1) He doesn't feel any pressure so no need to comment on the game. or 2) He is not invested in this game.
Both possibilities, but I believe if we applied some pressure, of course being aware that L-1 might be hammered.

VOTE: Shadow_Step

I'm sure I haven't posted in any other game today(according to my time zone), so what the hell are you talking about?

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I don't know why I didn't ask this before.

@Mod Say I am voting a person when I have a trait that makes it so my vote will not count towards their lynch, will my vote still show up on your VC as counting, even though it doesn't count?

You'll see it in the next VC itself, but I don't have such an ability.

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I'm sure I haven't posted in any other game today(according to my time zone), so what the hell are you talking about?

I meant it in the general sense that your activity and efforts have not been here from my thoughts. I looked at your ISO and its devoid of a lot of scumhunting, and now you only come on here to defend your actions.

Its not good, what your thoughts on reads?

Pepper is my top scum read and JM very happy with that a lot being lynched.

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Why hasn't Pepper been lynched yet?

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This game needs a new life

VOTE: Peter

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Serra

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Genji

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Tracer

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Foxbird

: Would you be open to a Vedith lynch and, if not, could you expand on why?

VOTE: Vedith

Let me do a quick ISO dive to refresh my memory.

Done with my quick ISO dive.

VOTE: Vedith

I'm up for this.

This was like six minutes, what exactly did you see in that time?

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And you haven't answered this yet.

because I wanted to stir some shit up and get some reactions, problemo?

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DP is still my top scum read, but I'm having 2nd thoughts about their alignment.
Too scummy to be scum sort.

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What's so controversial about a vote on Peter that it would "stir shit up"?

Cause he is town read by a certain amount of players iirc

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Uhm I havent been able to keep up because of work and playing actual overwatch, can someone fill me in?

Yes but what shadow did is exactly that, fake scum hunting.

That isn't what you said
VOTE: Doctor Pepper
L-2

Fill me in on why this was a good reason to put me at L-2

@Serrapaladin-why DP is scum ^^

DP's reaction to their wagon which has formed twice in 2 days now was a horrible omgus vote.
I don't expect scum to be this horrible...

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Yeah, I suppose.

I think the level of activity is NAI, but it's true that what he did comment on wasn't great. A fair amount of OMGUS and discussion of the NK. Particularly, discrediting DGB as having given no info, when he was her biggest scumread, doesn't look great.

I could still see minimally engaged town only commenting on stuff relevant to them, but am pretty happy with that lynch.

@shadow: do you have any indication whether your hated modifier is permanent?

It doesn't say anything about being conditional, so I'm guessing it is perma.

I hope it doesn't apply in lylo

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Xkfyu replaces peter!

screw you man, you're scum.

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Let's quicklynch XK

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Turret is someone's ability. We're not sure which side - could be both scum or town, DP was the biggest wagon D1 (we lynched someone else because of mechanical reasons). See it as some kinda doublevoter or something that can't be changed, I guess?

Seriously, every time someone says that the double voter ability is scum. It pinges my scumdar, a scum double voter, and a hated player(me), do you understand how broken that is?

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Well I'm done with my catch up, but I still don't see why Tracer is town.

I can think of a very plausible scenario in which she is scum. A town read goes to the first person that can tell me what that scenario is.

I think I know what you are thinking.

That Tracer gets converted to Mafia AFTER they get killed/lynch. Only she has been telling us exactly the opposite.

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It can have any flavour name, normally that's called a vampire I think.
They start as town and when they get killed they become mafia.

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Turret is someone's ability. We're not sure which side - could be both scum or town, DP was the biggest wagon D1 (we lynched someone else because of mechanical reasons). See it as some kinda doublevoter or something that can't be changed, I guess?

Seriously, every time someone says that the double voter ability is scum. It pinges my scumdar, a scum double voter, and a hated player(me), do you understand how broken that is?

If the player can't move around the first vote on will, as in it starts at beginning of the day, it isn't as powerful as you may think.

Scum having 2 votes in lylo?

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It's all wifom and pointless fluff.
What good is going to come out of talking about it anyway?
Do you really want to lynch Tracer again to make sure she isn't a traitor ?

Pedit just as I was typing that lol

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VOTE: Fox

I'd like this

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But its not my turret :<

Why have you reffered to it as your own then? or implied that it is yours whatever.

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{Vedith, Shadow_Step, The Engineer} - A little bit scummy

reason for me being there?

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We are lynching fox today.

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I don't mind a DP lynch, as there hasn't been much besides the claim that has me thinking town.

I think I prefer shadow though, as his "DP is too scummy to be scum" is pretty bad (especially if DP is town). Also with tracer-town, which I'm pretty confident in, I could see a 3-man scumteam being weakened by one of them being hated.

VOTE: shadow

What is bad about it?
What is the scum motivation behind doing such a thing ?

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What is bad about it?
What is the scum motivation behind doing such a thing ?

Serra is scum, it's okay we're lynching him tomorrow.

Let's lynch him today instead

VOTE: paladin

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Fuck this. Not lynching DP

VOTE: shadowstep

Would rather this vote be on random, who has continued to get worse.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: DP
if 4his flips town do tracer tomorrow

Nice job announcing

L-1.

This is a god awful vote.
First you didn't explain why I was a scum lean for you then you vote me for no reason.

Deadline being close is a bs reason, we still have two days I think.

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VOTE: podoboq

I'm torbjorn, the turret is me.

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VOTE: podoboq

I'm torbjorn, the turret is me.

And why have you left it on DP all day?

I don't think I can change it. There is nothing about that in my role pm.

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Hi, can anyone counterclaim ownership of the turret

Loooool
You really think I'd be that dumb as scum to do such a thing.

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VOTE: podoboq

I'm torbjorn, the turret is me.

And why have you left it on DP all day?

I don't think I can change it. There is nothing about that in my role pm.

Why'd you put it there in the first place?

Because of day 1 and he was a scum read ??!!

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VOTE: podoboq

I'm torbjorn, the turret is me.

And why have you left it on DP all day?

I don't think I can change it. There is nothing about that in my role pm.

Why'd you put it there in the first place?

VOTE: podoboq

I'm torbjorn, the turret is me.

So you accuse me of OMGUS and are now committing OMGUS :>

VOTE: podoboq

I'm torbjorn, the turret is me.

Why do you call my vote awful for being out of the blue
And then vote podo who you haven't mentioned all day

Are you sure you can read correctly ?
I called HIS vote awful.

It's not OMGUS at all, why is he voting me when Random is his biggest scum read ?
It's completely opportunistic and wants to save random/ dp for future mislynches.

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It's completely opportunistic and wants to save random/ dp for future mislynches.

I want to lynch random now, but nobody else seems to be listening. If you're willing to vote obvscum with me, then let's fucking do it, but I saw you (apparently double-voting) on obvtown, so yeah, wasn't holding my breath any longer.

We have two days left. You've been a moderate scum read for a while now. I'm settling for you, because it looks like the alternative is lynching DoctorPepper, who is town.

I was voting paladin, wth ?

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DP should be vigged for the sanity of town.
Not worth wasting a lynch over.
I'd still prefer a paladin lynch.

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That's contradictory podo

If you're scum reading me for not doing "legit scum hunting", then why is it not the same case with DP, who has been worse in that regard.

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VOTE: paladin

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Hi, can anyone counterclaim ownership of the turret

Loooool
You really think I'd be that dumb as scum to do such a thing.

Idk, apparently you thought I was too dumb as scum because I OMGUS'd you.

No.
I was already voting you before that.

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Ok fine.

UNVOTE: Tracer

VOTE: Shadow_Step

That's L-1.

Are you fucking daft ?

I'm hated and what part if my claim don't you believe.

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After going on about how Torbjorn has nothing to do with the mafia, flavouwise DP is still voting me.
Fox vote is complete nonsense and opportunistic but let's vote random instead

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VOTE: Fox

Not really reading random as scum tbh and I've stated reasons for this wagon earlier.

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No
I'm conf town

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Fox, we need to lynch fox.

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Am I missing something?

Read your favourite pepper's post's about how my character can't be scum for starters.

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So I'm assuming Torbjorn has a vote on me.

DoctorPepper (1) - Turret

lolwut

Either Torbjorn or Symmetra. Im basing this on flavor, but in the game these are the only characters who have turrets who attack for you. Thus they could be double voting this way. In this case, I am assuming (by flavor) that the person voting me is town

Flavor. In the game, the turrets are made by Torbjorn and Symmetra, who have no connection to either the omnics or Blackwatch.

I wanna try something
VOTE: Wake

Flavor. In the game, the turrets are made by Torbjorn and Symmetra, who have no connection to either the omnics or Blackwatch.

I wanna try something
VOTE: Wake

Flavor. In the game, the turrets are made by Torbjorn and Symmetra, who have no connection to either the omnics or Blackwatch.

I wanna try something
VOTE: Wake

Is

that

what you think?
Then I suggest a mass flavor claim.

^I'm sure Mafia have mod given flavor claims in

this case

. However,

this

is kinda undisputed to me, as I dont see how

this

makes sense flavorwise

I'm honestly confused by this progression. I feel like you guys are talking about something in the flavor I'm not familiar with. There are a lot of pronouns flying around, and I don't know what they're referring to.

DocPep, are you suggesting that Torb and Symmetra's alignment might be in question because of their flavor connections (or lack thereof) with Blackwatch and the Omnics? If so, could you explain this to me like I've never heard of these characters before?

I underlined and italicized the pronouns that I'm not sure I'm following.

Torbjorn and Symmetra have no connections to the bad guys in the flavor. Even if theg can fakeclaim, you cant fakeclaim them now that they actually used the ability. I think the turret is no qiestion, town

But he is still continuing to vote me.

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Ok, gladly. Where is it?

^^^^

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A hated scum really?
Also check #872

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What is random on currently ?

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VOTE: randomidget

L-1

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Xk kill is weird.

VOTE: Serrapaladin

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VOTE: fox

I wanted to lynch this yesterday

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This all seems too familiar and similar, if you know what I'm talking about Vedith.

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No idea!

You better be town.

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*tumbleweed*

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So are we lynching Fox or what.

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Well, Shadow hasn't claimed his flavor but he placed the turret so his flavorpool is very limited. And neither are mafia flavor.

I said I'm torbjorn(?)
My passive ability is hated which is called Cancer.

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I have a town read on Wake because of Spring.

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@Vedith NA result?

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VOTE: Genji

POE

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I don't think Engineer is scum based on interactions with Foxbird, but then well.

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VOTE: wake

L-1

I won't be surprised if wake is just missing the deadlines for sending the kill xD

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That too ^

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Let's increase the no. of posts for no rhyme or reason.

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Unless Paladin lied about his win con being compatible with town, this should be the game winning hammer.

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lmao

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Rach is online >.>

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@mod can you update the OP?

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This game is turning into a joke. How the hell haven't we won yet.

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So I have a town on

Tracer
Shadow
Engineer
DrPepper

Serra day killed Mafia and I got neutral on.

So they have a GF or re director of some sort.

Who did you investigate last night?

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Nobody hammer, let everyone react to this.
I want to lynch Paladin today as it is possible that his win con does not allow him to win with the town.

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Can we get a replacement for DP?

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Hello friends will catch up later on today. ^_^

Oh dear

Welcome VOTE: Maria

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er what?

Vedith is some kind of an investigative role and has an inno on you.

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let's lynch someone

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UNVOTE:

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Vedith has an inno on everyone except paladin who claims to be TP who's win con is compatible with town.
But we still ain't winning so. We don't know what the hell to do.

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I don't want to end up losing to TP. So I'd rather get this paladin Lynch out of the way.

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I'm hated and if he lives to 3p lylo with me he can hammer.

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I will hammer in half an hour.

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Who's alt are you Maria ?
Don't tell me frozen angel

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I was pushing for a fox lynch on the day before we lynched her and I was suspicious of podoboq. I'm not scum.
And we don't autolose tomorrow if Maria flips town, why would that happen ? We will have Vedith, Shadow, paladin, engineer and tracer alive.

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@Shadow - Why turret Serra?

It's a night action, you had town cleared everyone else.

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Told you guys it's Paladin.

VOTE: Paladin[/b]

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VOTE: Paladin

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DID I JUST LOSE WAIT WTF

No, we won. Wooohoo

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Serra was an sk