Trial of the Evoker: The Corrupted
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pisskop Survivor
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Targeting somebody else means I can crumb it for townpoints.
Targeting you guys means we can hog powers.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.-
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Dunnstral he/himGoodfellashe/him
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pisskop Survivor
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Gahhh, were doing good work, but its going to take so long!beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.-
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pisskop Survivor
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The problem is town has no leader and has no real reads.
You guys are doing a good job keeping the content that is out there vague and the lurkers are really helping since theyd be good if they got in here.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.-
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Dunnstral he/himGoodfellashe/him
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pisskop Survivor
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Did mod tell you if it resolves before or after use?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.-
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pisskop Survivor
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Ummm
Did mod tell you if your invade ability resolves before or after other roles?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.-
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Dunnstral he/himGoodfellashe/him
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pisskop Survivor
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Oh. Invade is dayuse.
Well yes. Target wisdom.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.-
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pisskop Survivor
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All spells are abilities.
The only non-spell attributes to a player is their alignment and their passive effects. So like any normal game.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.-
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pisskop Survivor
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Note our alignments and my own passive ability, for instance.
If we have a secondscum its an SK.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.-
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JaeReed Jack of All Trades
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We don't have an SK. The ratio is in the mechanics & setup rules post in the game thread.
Yeah use it today definitely I think.
And yes I believe site meta lately has been to use the full D1 where possible.-
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pisskop Survivor
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hang up. its noncon 2shot.
but. it sounds like itd be useful later. learning 1 grimore and 1spell is enh. we can spot a bunch of em we can stealem.
just fftbeeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.-
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pisskop Survivor
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orrr. theres at least a tangible benefit to having it used later.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.-
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JaeReed Jack of All Trades
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uh lessee
13 players, 3 scum. Assuming we all live, that means we need to get to 6 players to win. 4 mislynches, which means day 4 is the earliest we can win by if I'm not mixing that up.
That's for a clean sweep.
I don't think holding off really matters in light of that? Also I don't think it's only 2 shot? Just noncon.-
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These all are needed.
So, Dunnstral's invade is non-con. We can wait to D2 to use it at latest I think? Or go for the Odd-night stuff but I think D2 would be good because of the way the spells might be stacked up and we'll have a better idea of how to use it I think?
Our redirect is 2-shot. We need to be careful with this.
Pisskop's mana barrier is 2-shot. Again, we need to be careful in using this.
The reason for the caution with the 2-shots is that our Arcane Theft can ONLY be used if we have no other spells in our book available for theft, and only during the day. Chances are we will be targeted at night by at least something, and then we will not be able to use it during the day even if we absolutely need to. This is where Pisskop's mana barrier can come in. He can cause all spells on us to fail, therefore keeping us from learning the spells as well. Realistically he needs to keep 1 shot of this to use on us for when we choose to use Arcane Theft.
Dunn can Invade to learn someone's abilities, and if it's a cop or something we can redirect them on to someone less useful for them to have an inno on, then redirect again the next day (maybe from the inno back to the original? Or onto themselves) to stack the abilities (people will theoretically still gain abilities and if someone wants to pass something useful on to someone they know is town then this gets even stronger, especially if we can make ppl self target). With the 2nd redirect we could have pisskop use mana barrier on us that night so we don't gain spells, then we can steal it from our target during the day.
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You can try, but if they're using an ability that would normally not be self-targetable it'll just fail.
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