We The Purple II Game Over

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please reduce day deadlines to 14 days beginning today. Thanks.

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10 minute VCA, don't make me laugh. It takes at least 10 minutes to color names.

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Either put some work in or claim scum by hammering yourself.

You want to touch my VCA mantle, then sit down and actually do it. Give reads.

I noticed how you're the sole vote on Random but your lynchable pool doesn't have him at all.

~Titus

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Random number generator trying to pass for VCA.

~Titus

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More plausibly, Espy is large group scum and we need every townie and pink scum but one to lynch them. So that's one more vote. Those are a lot of words and desperate mud flinging.

~Titus

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Hey Espy, did y'all sync up yet?

~Titus

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meanwhile I don't think HH is scum anymore... for now

If he is, he's doing a good job

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Wait so if it's 5:3:2 we can't lynch espy unless their team busses?

That sucks a huge donkey dick

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Oh wait actually we can

Silly titus

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Oh wait I read her post wrong

Silly me

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Sonic, we will talk about HH tonight, I like the synergy and sarcasm as of late. Given he was so shitty earlier and his ika interactions... are blah but his recent posting is good.

~Titus

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nope? that was literally my first thought

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My face palm emoji earlier was because HH had to spell it out to you guys

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So everyone is a commuter then.

Then I no longer want to be hydrated >_> how boring

Wait shit

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Mmmm yeah

We still have no idea what ns got

Airhead

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In fact
Wisdom is the only surviving day hydrate

You guys are night hydrated + 1 unclaimed wisdom night hydrate who probably shouldn't claim

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Hint: Not commuter. Not BP. Probably a Doc, JK, or Hider. Like I said.

Don't buy doc or JK, because a scumteam no-killing n1 is moronic. And scum not trying to shoot ns is less moronic but also pretty stupid

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AP tell me why there can't be multiple same roles in this wonderful noflips game?

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In fact
Wisdom is the only surviving day hydrate

You guys are night hydrated + 1 unclaimed wisdom night hydrate who probably shouldn't claim

Would we believe that ns, being a hider, is so dumb as to not leave crumbs? Or his role?

Or is he such an amazing genius that none of us are able to decipher his secret message??? Maybe a secret code :O

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Don't buy doc or JK, because a scumteam no-killing n1 is moronic. And scum not trying to shoot ns is less moronic but also pretty stupid

-shrug-, its totally possible both scumteams tried to outguess what the other scumteam was going to do. It would kind of suck to waste your shot on NS if the other scumteam is already killing him. But ya hider is plausible.

If wisdom is also a hider ( or some disappearing variant) it would also explain the no result right??

So basically he might got something similar to ns

There's lots of possibilities here and fuck this setup

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Don't buy doc or JK, because a scumteam no-killing n1 is moronic. And scum not trying to shoot ns is less moronic but also pretty stupid

-shrug-, its totally possible both scumteams tried to outguess what the other scumteam was going to do. It would kind of suck to waste your shot on NS if the other scumteam is already killing him. But ya hider is plausible.

The odds of both scumteams shooting the same person that is not ns and ns protecting that same person

Is less likely that I RNG this game and catch scum 3 times in a row

So
Yeah

Still don't like your "why were there no kills n1?" Theory

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Ok let's just wait for the wise man to talk

I'm talking out of my ass here

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"Wise"

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Whatever the fuck ns did is important information for guessing what wisdom did given what shitty limited info we have

Though we can wait for him but js your logic is kind of bad >\>

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do we wanna talk about this yet?

Seriously. Most likely candidate is like randomidget or some shit?

Even if someone there got the hydrate they won't claim it for no apparent reason

So
Let's not

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Hmm

This shit doesn't add up

Once again, what makes you sure that there are no duplicated roles in the game? Flips aren't revealed

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Now this noflip policy is going to hurt us


Psyche quit smart

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Once again, what makes you sure that there are no duplicated roles in the game?

does this assumption even need to be defended?

What the fuck is even your stance on Wisdom?

Townread .

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Ok first things first, with AP claiming Commuter, there's no way that Bacon isn't a) scum himself or b) knows precisely who a scum is. Sonic, you're living in a fairytale land if you think that Bacon is still clueless and town. So I'm taking over and kicking ass. Sorry but set up spec boundaries are my thing. I think we both saw what we wanted to see there with Bacon. I don't know but you and I are in for a long time of recalibrating.

I had Bacon penciled in as a commuter because that made sense with the setup. We needed some way to explain how both Seiko and Bacon lived. Dual commuters and hiders make zero sense whatsoever. Putting Seiko as a hider and bacon as a commuter makes some sense (not flawless but enough).

The second moonlogicky thing was that I thought "What if the first hydrate was immune from kills?" That would almost have to be true given the game becomes really common sense bordering on stupid because otherwise the hydrate just dies each and every night. Yet, Cait died, so hydrates cannot be immune from kills unless its role specific or scum have a strongman.

So we can conclude (Seiko hider + AP Commuter of Unknown but Probably Town Alignment, or at least one faction has a strongman). Bacon, didn't process this immediately, so I figured it was moonlogicky. The ascetic thing I figured was commuter. Given that universe is impossible, that leaves us with Bacon is scum or knows who is.

A) Hider + Commuter + Whoever Wisdom hydrated is a scum roleblocker
B) Hider + Commuter + Bacon scum
C) Whoever gets hydrated is immune from nightkills AND Wisdom hydrated is a strongman.

Given A, Wisdom's not outing who he hydrated is tantamount to him saying he hydrated his buddy. Doubly so given Wisdom hasn't claimed Ascetic early on. Third, I cannot imagine a hydrate based on popular election being a negative utility role.
B leads to Wis scum.
C is the only scenario where Wisdom is town, but in that case, why hasn't Wisdom just outed who was hydrated by him?

I don't see any result that has Bacon as town given that AP claimed commuter. It's a hell of a stretch to say that AP fake claimed commuter as well given his play so far this game. That is technically a possibility but one that I do not by.

Mama's back in charge.

VOTE: Bacon and Egg

~ObvTitus

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If you are a hider then full claim immediately.

Otherwise die.

We need to mass claim Today.

We should probably lynch Bacon Today.

We should do this. AP picks the order, since I think he's universally townread but for Espy scum.

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are you fucking kidding me?

Show me where it's wrong Bacon. I'd love to be wrong, but I ran this several fucking times.

Either AP is fake claiming, you're scum, or your hydrate is. Possibly both.

~Titus

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you're right, my hydrate is apparently

And that is...

~Titus

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A) Hider + Commuter + Whoever Wisdom hydrated is a scum roleblocker

THe thing about roleblocker theories is why would ZZZX get any message at all if Fresh was blocked?

Also, Bacon has been claiming to know why it failed, so.

I'd run that through to its conclusion but that only helps Bacon claim roleblocker if he's a scum blocker.

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C) Whoever gets hydrated is immune from nightkills AND Wisdom hydrated is a strongman.

Eh?

Like I said, that's a little moonlogicky and requires assumptions but it's the only way Wisdom can be town.

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It's a hell of a stretch to say that AP fake claimed commuter as well given his play so far this game.

Why?

Because AP is town, and has been obvious town for the entire game. That's been pretty blantantly apparent. He also held off his commuter claim in a very townie way to see if Wisdom would get caught in a lie.

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VOTE: sonic boom

I prove you're scum, you vote us.

~Titus

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how couldnt you love it? doing nothing and getting saved by a random counterwagon can only be dreamed of

"Random" counterwagon. LOL.

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except I'm still pretty obviously town so yeah

If it's so obvious, you can absolutely show how a cop check on you comes back as nothing and why you're the only primary hydrate alive. You're claiming today.

~Titus

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Settle down boys. I think you're both scum, so no need to compete. We can lynch you both.

~Titus

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Ok first things first, with AP claiming Commuter, there's no way that Bacon isn't a) scum himself or b) knows precisely who a scum is. Sonic, you're living in a fairytale land if you think that Bacon is still clueless and town. So I'm taking over and kicking ass. Sorry but set up spec boundaries are my thing. I think we both saw what we wanted to see there with Bacon. I don't know but you and I are in for a long time of recalibrating.

I had Bacon penciled in as a commuter because that made sense with the setup. We needed some way to explain how both Seiko and Bacon lived. Dual commuters and hiders make zero sense whatsoever. Putting Seiko as a hider and bacon as a commuter makes some sense (not flawless but enough).

The second moonlogicky thing was that I thought "What if the first hydrate was immune from kills?" That would almost have to be true given the game becomes really common sense bordering on stupid because otherwise the hydrate just dies each and every night. Yet, Cait died, so hydrates cannot be immune from kills unless its role specific or scum have a strongman.

So we can conclude (Seiko hider + AP Commuter of Unknown but Probably Town Alignment, or at least one faction has a strongman). Bacon, didn't process this immediately, so I figured it was moonlogicky. The ascetic thing I figured was commuter. Given that universe is impossible, that leaves us with Bacon is scum or knows who is.

A) Hider + Commuter + Whoever Wisdom hydrated is a scum roleblocker
B) Hider + Commuter + Bacon scum
C) Whoever gets hydrated is immune from nightkills AND Wisdom hydrated is a strongman.

Given A, Wisdom's not outing who he hydrated is tantamount to him saying he hydrated his buddy. Doubly so given Wisdom hasn't claimed Ascetic early on. Third, I cannot imagine a hydrate based on popular election being a negative utility role.
B leads to Wis scum.
C is the only scenario where Wisdom is town, but in that case, why hasn't Wisdom just outed who was hydrated by him?

I don't see any result that has Bacon as town given that AP claimed commuter. It's a hell of a stretch to say that AP fake claimed commuter as well given his play so far this game. That is technically a possibility but one that I do not by.

Mama's back in charge.

VOTE: Bacon and Egg

~ObvTitus

I'd like to take this for a moment Titus while I have your attention. What have we learned from 'We Didn't Playtest This' and 'InYuasha'? Don't make decisions based on set-up spec!

InuYasha, YnB was caught based on that.

We didn't play test this...it proved you shouldn't do that. Not me.

~Titus

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C) Whoever gets hydrated is immune from nightkills AND Wisdom hydrated is a strongman.

Eh?

Like I said, that's a little moonlogicky and requires assumptions but it's the only way Wisdom can be town.

I don't see what a strongman has to do with anything at all??

It's a hell of a stretch to say that AP fake claimed commuter as well given his play so far this game.

Why?

Because AP is town, and has been obvious town for the entire game. That's been pretty blantantly apparent. He also held off his commuter claim in a very townie way to see if Wisdom would get caught in a lie.

Shoulda just said "that AP is scum" then but ok

The only way I see plausibly that Bacon is town is rather moonlogicky. It requires the assumption that whoever is hydrated is protected, and the only way to break heal or protection is a strongman.

By having that assumption, then Seiko is not a Hider. Thus Wisdom can be town. Yet, Cait died, so scum have to have a way of bypassing the protection.

~Titus

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just out this mystery person ffs.

This so much this if you're town.

~Titus

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You don't make any sense. You supposedly suspect me because AP is a commuter and I can't be anything else that gives cops a no result. What does hydrated being protected has to do with that?

Hider and Commuter are the two ways that a townie can come back as no result by role.
Roleblocker requires you hydrate scum (as your hydrate hasn't claimed).

If you're a hider or commuter, then Seiko isn't a hider or commuter. Same with AP.

So if Seiko isn't a hider or commuter, then she has to have some other method of surviving the night 1 kills (unless you're arguing both scum NKed which is patently ridiculous). That's where we reach the point of hydrates being protected.

If hydrates are protected though, scum have to have a strongman. Therefore, if you're town, it means scum have a strongman to kill Cait with.

~Titus

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Example of why set-up spec is a side conversation at best, and certainly nothing to actually hang your hat on. Wisdom isn't scum for anything he's done this game but is suddenly scum because AP claimed commuter and convoluted set-up spec? Does anyone else not have a problem with this? I'm not trying to fight this lynch but you're making it really hard to not fight your vote when you are making incredibly wild assumptions about shit YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.

Honey, show me where I've been alive and someone was "conftown" based off setup spec and that cost us the game due to my decision with that and I'll maybe start listening to you.

You can't because that doesn't happen.

I scumhunt by taking the outer boundaries and working things out. Outer boundaries here, say Wisdom's scum, AP's scum (unlikely), or his hydrate is. We can't make a scenario where that isn't true.

~Titus

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I still don't follow. Are you saying that this would make me town because I could be hider or what?

Claim and out your hydrate and I'll explain it for the fifth time.

~Titus

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The only way I see plausibly that Bacon is town is rather moonlogicky. It requires the assumption that whoever is hydrated is protected, and the only way to break heal or protection is a strongman.

I think this would be in the game mechanics if it were true

This is probably right but still theoretically possible.

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Plus if he's scum you're giving him an out based on set-up spec that you actually don't know anything about. But hey sure...set-up spec, great tool...

Real big out there Espy.

To even have a shot at said out, he has to a) Give us the name of a scum b) confirm data about set-up spec giving us the ability to "heal" someone by hydrating them and c) realize that he's not even conftown if he does that because of the fact he could have hydrated a buddy.

It's not an "out". It's just looking at all theoretical possibilities, of course, you seem to not like people actually thinking do you?

~Titus

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Example of why set-up spec is a side conversation at best, and certainly nothing to actually hang your hat on. Wisdom isn't scum for anything he's done this game but is suddenly scum because AP claimed commuter and convoluted set-up spec? Does anyone else not have a problem with this? I'm not trying to fight this lynch but you're making it really hard to not fight your vote when you are making incredibly wild assumptions about shit YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.

Honey, show me where I've been alive and someone was "conftown" based off setup spec and that cost us the game due to my decision with that and I'll maybe start listening to you.

You can't because that doesn't happen.

I scumhunt by taking the outer boundaries and working things out. Outer boundaries here, say Wisdom's scum, AP's scum (unlikely), or his hydrate is. We can't make a scenario where that isn't true.

~Titus

Honey this ain't about you and your decision making, this is about you thinking you know something when you actually know nothing, and spreading misinformation about the things you don't know and getting others to follow along with things you don't know. You know all the nothings actually. You don't even know if AP is making a truthful claim. If AP is scum he knows way more about the set-up and can make an appropriate claim. So yeah your set-up spec falls apart in post #0 of this thread cause you don't know.

My conclusion is

AP scum/Wis scum/Wis Hydrate scum

The fact that you're saying AP scum puts a hole in my theory is laughable. I just don't buy AP as scum, so hence why I'm voting Wisdom.

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Those / are ORs not ANDs but context should reveal that.

~Titus

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Wis Hydrate scum

talk to me about this again?

In this scenario AP is a commuter, I am ?, and the scum I hydrated does what?

Claim. Then I answer. Not sure how much clearer that is. I kinda already have.

~Titus

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No, you answer now because not only this isn't clear, it's nonsense.

So the only way you can be town you're calling non-sense, real sharp one you are.

~Titus

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No, you answer now because not only this isn't clear, it's nonsense.

So the only way you can be town you're calling non-sense, real sharp one you are.

~Titus

explain that way pls

I already have. You claim, then I'll explain it for the umpteenth time. This is non-negotiable even in the rare possibility you're town.

~Titus

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Don't claim your role, that's not really relevant to your alignment. Any role can be a town or scum anyway. Claiming your hydration target is the only claim you have that is even relevant to your alignment (and not even completely), but you don't really have to since just about everyone has already said it wasn't them so we'll figure it out (or someone will lie to cover). It's not a secret you can keep forever anyway, we'll figure it out and we'll go from there.

Actually, Bacon should be claiming role and flavor. Any role in theory can be town or scum, but Bacon's a unique case as 99% of claims = Bacon or AP must be scum so......

~Titus

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what the fuck @_@

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Titus we really must synch. In 48h.


Titus argument makes sense. Wisdom should claim. You didn't hydrate me so you suck

I would think of a possibility of wisdom town -- his hydrate was a role stopper (super doc) and protected him in gratitude but then wisdom said "lolol I know why you got no result and it's A-OK" so scrap that

bleh what a mess I'll look at this at home. Am in school rn

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Bacon, what made you think a rolestopper was town? Why the fuck didn't you out this immediately? What purpose would town have with a rolestopper? I will admit that someone using a rolestopper on you seems a little farfetched. Why didn't you vote TWIE?

Going to keep the vote there until Sonic and I talk. I expected the claim to be simple hider, if what you're saying is accurate. Nothing really passed as a hider hint and if Seiko wasn't a hider you could be.

~Titus

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So we have a one v one with Bacon and TWIE...

Bacon, can you answer my other questions and why you hydrated TWIE?

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Of course you hydrate obvscum TWIE instead of more legit townreads like me or generic or cait sith...

Typical


get rekt

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Yeah role stoppers are super docs == all night actions on you fail

This is general knowledge

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gosh zzzx

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Rolestopper

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technically twie is scum regardless of what bacon flips

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ap, this scenario might even be possible

wisdom is scum

hydrates twie (not his buddy), thinking that twie was town -- wants to hydrate town for "town cred"

twie is actually on the other team of wisdom

wisdom got played out

so both scum.

wisdom has the best reads, obviously

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fuck everything


sonic boom will come up with a judgement within 48 hours

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So in Bacon town we have

Bacon hydrates scum, who keep their mouth shut to frame him (as only his scumbuddy would refuse to claim the hydrate right?). TWIE rolestops Wisdom thus explaining the negative result. Wisdom hydrated TWIE and neighborized TWIE so they could discuss plans.

TWIE scum agrees to rolestop Bacon because Bacon could then be framed from then on because all actions on Bacon would fail. They just...don't kill Bacon.

On the other hand,TWIE is claiming this is a total fiction. Why would scum not just rolestop a buddy unless they were swinging for an endgame home run by frame to mislynch?

Should we be able to find posts suggesting the pair had an unnatural closeness if Bacon is telling the truth?

UNVOTE:

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If TWIE mistakenly thinks Bacon is scum, he has every motivation to lie and hide the hydrate. If Bacon flips scum but did hydrate TWIE then TWIE can hide as rolestopper.

~Titus

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Intent to hammer.

It seems to be the lynch is decided. I don't want Bacon to be scum because I just don't want to think I was wrong all game and played by Bacon. I don't want to believe that's true but there are some glaring concerns and Fresh just eliminated the whole people are immune by hydraing so...

~Titus

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Bacon, last reads list?

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ARe my posts getting eaten?

Bacon last reads please.

~Titus

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VOTE: Bacon and Eggs

Have it your way. I'm having a late breakfast...

~Titus

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Well I don't think anyone can accuse this game of being uneventful.

Agreed. Now, let's hope for some crosskills. And I get the impossible situation of finding a town that isn't hydrated...

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I still just don't see why TWIE would go along with Bacon's requests so readily just to turn on them for god knows why all of a sudden?

I'm done caring though. I PM'd the mod that there was a hammer. If Bacon flips town then the team that TWIE isn't on needs to shoot him or else I will punch someone. Town isn't going to iron your clothes and do the dishes for you.

Agreed with one exception, we might have no choice if TWIE is not pink scum and none of them die in the night...

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*That should read scum that is not pink...

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we're fucked

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first and foremost: we DID NOT hydrate anyone last night.

our choices were basically {ZZZX, HH, randomidget, oversoul}, and literally every one of them has issues. me and titus couldn't agree 100% on a sure townread so we decided not risking scum getting hydrate, we already have bacon's joker at large

titus will explain our decision/choices later, but we won't claim w/o permission

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worst case scenario: we are in 3:2:2

'conftown' (or equivalent): me + ap

the last townie: {HH, randomidget, oversoul}

the rest confscum.


best case scenario: 5:1:1

see above

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mara, are we forced to day hydrate every day? or can we no hydrate?

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also,

you scumfucks really need to shoot better

[Sonic Boom]

wait at least 48h before trollvoting

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titus will do her famous VCA

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still experimental for multiball... it has only been advertised to work right for normal singleballs

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When looking at the game, Sonic and I tried to reach consensus to hydrate. Given our position, we decided to ask the mod if we could refuse to hydrate. Giving scum another role would be terrible IMO.

We both decided TWIE Random and Oversoul were not getting hydrated because of being lurkers. I town read ZZZX, Sonic disagreed.

We could not hydrate AP or Fresh again.
I think HH and TWIE are good candidates for Pink scum based on 1.29 and 1.30, which I will elaborate on later tonight provided I am back. Tridra's were a little harder for my VCA. It's harder to distinguish why Bacon was on his wagons.

Espy is our best candidate for tridra scum based on play.


I think our saving grace is scum will want to cross kill tonight if the teams are larger. On that assumption, if we lynch a scum and we get crosskills, then it's

3:1:0, which is doable.

No lynch cross kills is

3:1:1, dictating nl

If we mislynch, the game is over.

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vca is garbage

TitusVCA™ is not. it is the latest scumhunting technology that is developed through years of research to produce a powerful, accurate, and concise way to catch scum, and occasionally entire scumteams.

you modded Inuyasha, dude. you should be the last person to whack it

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she doesnt know yet

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why the shitfuck would fresh give you a result

[Sonic Boom]

now that he's dead you can make up whatever shit you want

*shrugs*

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vca is garbage and if you push anything based on it, especially if that thing is me, i am going to get very angry

Really, Fresh gives the cop to you? No. I don't think so.

VOTE: HH

My VCA suggests HH as scum but don't think I am done with you Espy.

~Titus

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Ah, fresh is the paranoid cop.
~wgeurts

Odd choice of word...given you just stated Fresh got an innocent on Random.

[Sonic Boom]

Wgertz read the cop wiki. Then you'll see why your word choice is impossible.

[Sonic Boom]

HH, my VCA has picked the scumpool in many games by now. I will prove it up tonight. So go ahead and get angry.

~Titus

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come on man, thats not cool.

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vca is garbage. except titus's and dgb's. i stand by this policy.

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You can't solve mafia with a computer. It's not possible. Get over yourself

if the odds are better than average, i'd take it.

the ordinary average player's method of "solving mafia" is way worse

[Sonic Boom]

dice says that theres a 4/5 possibility that you're scum.

looks like we don't need vca after all!

[Sonic Boom]

if you honestly think there are four scum in this game, shouldn't you be trying to no lynch today? do the math.

we haven't done the math yet.

will do math later

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i have to agree with espy on that one

if they are scum, they are definitely pink

i agree too

scum is scum i guess. can go die

[Sonic Boom]

Anyway the obvious choice for hydration would have been TWIE to confirm him or not...

hahahahaha

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VOTE: espy

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the "math" was regarding if no lynching would be better than lynching scum today

i think you're just pink scum who was appalled/shocked that you were called out as tridra scum. you know, like those identity crisis

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titus has HH in the spot however, so she shafted you to tridra scum

the theme here is that you are scum

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ill do it for you.

7 players, 2/2 scum.

lynch scum A
6 players, 2/1 going into night
if the 1 scum misses, it's game over

btw, ceph, this is to say that i have noted your post. will await input from titus & ap (the only trusted town here)

my question is: is it easier for the 1 scum to hit the 2 scum or the other way around? suffice it to say, PoE is really easy at this stage for any of the factions.

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you can't convince me

sorry bro, convincing scum of any shit is my last priority.

shhhhh let the adults work. don't attempt to usurp wisdom's position as the scum shitposter. thats not nice.

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I think our saving grace is scum will want to cross kill tonight if the teams are larger. On that assumption, if we lynch a scum and we get crosskills, then it's

3:1:0, which is doable.

No lynch cross kills is

3:1:1, dictating nl

If we mislynch, the game is over.

look again before you shit talk

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im going to bed. titus will write the walls for you and stuff while im gone. after we synch within 12h hopefully we will get a good clearer path to move towards.

we did well lynching scum the past 2 days. its just that scum suck at crosskilling.

[Sonic Boom]

You do realise that refuting people by discrediting them is a fallacy and is mostly done by scum?

tell the person who talks shit about titus vca

[Sonic Boom]

I'm here now.

VOTE: HH

I'm working on putting up the VCA. I want HH or TWIE lynched as I'm confident enough in them in being scum based on VCA. The Tridras are a bit more complicated. I'm thinking Espeonage there based on play today but I'll have to double check the VCA to make sure that's supported as the VCA needs to be done twice, looking for each alignment. He throws out that random is conftown.

I'll start with the Pink's first because that VCA is easier. Each team's VCA will be its own post for ease of understanding.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

Spoiler: Source Vote Counts

Legend: Pink scum are red, Tridra (purple) are blue, town are green. Pink and purple are a little problematic for me, so yeah.

Vote count 1.02

Voting:

TheWayItEnds: Sonic boom

Espeoncheage

:

bacon and egg

Sonic boom

:

ricastle

Not Voting:

Cait Sith

,

seiko x naomi

, randomidget,

ricastle

,

signersigner

, homuletic homunculi,

ZZZX

, thewayitends,

bert

,

ika

, oversoul,

Generic

, espeoncheage,

Fresh

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

bacon and egg

s

deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Vote count 1.03

Voting:

TheWayItEnds: Sonic boom

Espeoncheage

:

bacon and egg

Sonic boom

:

ricastle

,

signersigner

bacon and egg

:

bert

Cait Sith

: homuletic homunculi

Not Voting:

Cait Sith

,

seiko x naomi

, randomidget,

ricastle

,

ZZZX

, thewayitends,

ika

, oversoul,

Generic

, espeoncheage,

Fresh

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

bacon and egg

s,

bert

, homuletic homuculi

signersigner

: Sonic boom

deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Vote count 1.04

Voting:

TheWayItEnds: Sonic boom

Espeoncheage

:

bacon and egg

Sonic boom

:

ricastle

,

signersigner

bacon and egg

:

bert

Cait Sith

: homuletic homunculi

Not Voting:

Cait Sith

,

seiko x naomi

, randomidget,

ricastle

,

ZZZX

, thewayitends,

ika

, oversoul,

Generic

, espeoncheage,

Fresh

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

bacon and egg

s,

bert

, homuletic homuculi

signersigner

: Sonic boom,

signersigner

deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Vote count 1.05

Voting:

TheWayItEnds: Sonic boom,

ricastle

Espeoncheage

:

bacon and egg

Sonic boom

:

signersigner

bacon and egg

:

bert

Cait Sith

: homuletic homunculi

Not Voting:

Cait Sith

,

seiko x naomi

, randomidget,

ZZZX

, thewayitends,

ika

, oversoul,

Generic

, espeoncheage,

Fresh

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

bacon and egg

s,

bert

, sonic boom

signersigner

:

signersigner

deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Vote count 1.06

Voting:

TheWayItEnds: Sonic boom

Espeoncheage

:

bacon and egg

Sonic boom

:

ricastle

,

signersigner

, AngryPigeon, seiko x naiomi

bacon and egg

:

bert

ricastle

: homuletic homunculi

Oversoul

:

Cait Sith

AngryPigeon:

oversoul

Not Voting:

randomidget,

ZZZX

, thewayitends,

ika

,

Generic

, espeoncheage,

Fresh

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

bacon and egg

s,

bert

, homuletic homuculi, AngryPigeon,

seiko x naomi

, sonic boom

signersigner

:

signersigner

deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Vote count 1.07

Voting:

TheWayItEnds: Sonic boom

Espeoncheage

:

bacon and egg

Sonic boom (L-2)

:

ricastle

,

signersigner

, AngryPigeon, seiko x naiomi, oversoul,

Generic

ricastle

: homuletic homunculi

Oversoul

:

Cait Sith

Generic

:

bert

Not Voting:

randomidget,

ZZZX

, thewayitends,

ika

,

Generic

, espeoncheage,

Fresh

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

bacon and egg

s,

bert

, homuletic homuculi, AngryPigeon,

seiko x naomi

, sonic boom

signersigner

:

signersigner

Oversoul

: oversoul

bert

:

bert

with 17 alive, it takes 8 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Vote count 1.08

Voting:

TheWayItEnds: Sonic boom,

ricastle

Espeoncheage

:

bacon and egg

Sonic boom (L-3)

:

signersigner

, AngryPigeon, seiko x naiomi, oversoul,

Generic

, randomidget

ricastle

: homuletic homunculi

Oversoul

:

Cait Sith

Generic

:

bert

Not Voting:

ZZZX

, thewayitends,

ika

, espeoncheage,

Fresh

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

bacon and egg

s, homuletic homuculi, AngryPigeon,

seiko x naomi

, sonic boom

signersigner

:

signersigner

, randomidget

bert

:

bert

, oversoul

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Vote count 1.08

Voting:

TheWayItEnds: Sonic boom,

ricastle

Sonic boom

: AngryPigeon, seiko x naiomi, oversoul,

Generic

, randomidget

ricastle

: homuletic homunculi

Oversoul

:

Cait Sith

Generic

:

bert

Espsyoncheage

:

signersigner

,

bacon and egg

randomidget

: Espsyoncheage

Not Voting:

ZZZX

, thewayitends,

ika

,

Fresh

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

bacon and egg

s, homuletic homuculi, AngryPigeon,

seiko x naomi

, sonic boom

signersigner

:

signersigner

, randomidget

bert

:

bert

, oversoul
AngryPigeon:

Generic

Espsyoncheage:Espysoncheage

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Vote count 1.09

Voting:

TheWayItEnds: Sonic boom

Sonic boom

: AngryPigeon, seiko x naiomi, oversoul, randomidget

ricastle

: Espsyoncheage

Oversoul

:

Cait Sith

Generic

:

bert

Espsyoncheage

:

signersigner

,

bacon and egg

, homuletic homunculi

bert

:

Generic

,

Not Voting:

ZZZX

, thewayitends,

ika

,

Fresh

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

bacon and egg

s, AngryPigeon,

seiko x naomi

, sonic boom

signersigner

:

signersigner

, randomidget

bert

:

oversoul

AngryPigeon

:

Generic

Espsyoncheage

: Espysoncheage

bacon and egg

:

bert

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Vote count 1.10

Voting:

TheWayItEnds

:

ika

Sonic boom(L-3)

: AngryPigeon, oversoul, randomidget, homuletic homunculi, seiko x naiomi,

ricastle

ricastle

: Espsyoncheage

Oversoul

:

Cait Sith

Generic

:

bert

Espsyoncheage

:

signersigner

,

bacon and egg

bert

:

Generic

, Sonic boom

Not Voting:

ZZZX

, thewayitends,

ika

,

Fresh

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

bacon and egg

s, AngryPigeon

signersigner

:

signersigner

, randomidget, sonic boom

bert

:

oversoul

Espsyoncheage

: Espysoncheage

bacon and egg

:

bert

seiko x naomi

: ,

seiko x naomi

ika

:

ika

,

Generic

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Vote count 1.11

Voting:

TheWayItEnds

:

ika

Sonic boom

: AngryPigeon, oversoul, randomidget, seiko x naiomi,

ricastle

ricastle

: Espsyoncheage

Oversoul

:

Cait Sith

, homuletic homunculi

Generic

:

bert

Espsyoncheage

:

signersigner

,

bacon and egg

bert

:

Generic

, Sonic boom

Not Voting:

ZZZX

, thewayitends,

Fresh

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

bacon and egg

s, AngryPigeon

signersigner

:

signersigner

, randomidget, sonic boom

bert

:

oversoul

Espsyoncheage

: Espysoncheage

bacon and egg

:

bert

seiko x naomi

: ,

seiko x naomi

ika

:

ika

,

Generic

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Vote count 1.12

Voting:

Sonic boom

: AngryPigeon, oversoul, randomidget, seiko x naiomi,

ricastle

ricastle

: Espsyoncheage

Oversoul

:

Cait Sith

, homuletic homunculi

Generic

:

bert

Espsyoncheage

:

signersigner

,

bacon and egg

bert

:

Generic

, Sonic boom,

ika

Not Voting:

ZZZX

, thewayitends,

Fresh

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

bacon and egg

s, AngryPigeon

signersigner

:

signersigner

, randomidget, sonic boom

bert

:

oversoul, homuletic homunculi

Espsyoncheage

: Espysoncheage

bacon and egg

:

bert

seiko x naomi

: ,

seiko x naomi

ika

:

ika

,

Generic

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Vote count 1.13

Voting:

Sonic boom

: AngryPigeon, oversoul, randomidget, seiko x naiomi

ricastle

: Espsyoncheage

Oversoul

:

Cait Sith

, homuletic homunculi

Generic

:

bert

Espsyoncheage

:

signersigner

,

bacon and egg

bert

:

Generic

, Sonic boom,

ika

,

ricastle

Not Voting:

ZZZX

, thewayitends,

Fresh

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

bacon and egg

s, AngryPigeon

signersigner

:

signersigner

, randomidget, sonic boom

bert

:

oversoul, homuletic homunculi

Espsyoncheage

: Espysoncheage

bacon and egg

:

bert

seiko x naomi

: ,

seiko x naomi

ika

:

ika

,

Generic

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Vote count 1.14

Voting:

Sonic boom

: AngryPigeon, oversoul, randomidget, seiko x naiomi

Oversoul

:

Cait Sith

, homuletic homunculi,

signersigner

bert

:

Generic

,

ika

,

ricastle

Seiko x naom

i: Sonic boom,

bert

Not Voting:

ZZZX

, thewayitends,

Fresh

, Espsyoncheage

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

bacon and egg

s, AngryPigeon

signersigner

:

signersigner

, randomidget, sonic boom

bert

:

oversoul, homuletic homunculi,

bert

Espsyoncheage

: Espysoncheage

seiko x naomi

: ,

seiko x naomi

ika

:

ika

,

Generic

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Vote count 1.15

Voting:

Sonic boom

: AngryPigeon, oversoul, randomidget, seiko x naiomi

Oversoul

:

Cait Sith

, homuletic homunculi,

signersigner

bert

:

Generic

,

ika

Seiko x naom

i: Sonic boom,

bert

,

ricastle

Not Voting:

ZZZX

, thewayitends,

Fresh

, Espsyoncheage,

bacon and egg

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

bacon and egg

s, AngryPigeon

signersigner

: randomidget, sonic boom

bert

:

oversoul, homuletic homunculi,

bert

,

signersigner

,

Espsyoncheage

: Espysoncheage

seiko x naomi

: ,

seiko x naomi

ika

:

ika

,

Generic

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Vote count 1.16

Voting:

Sonic boom

: AngryPigeon, oversoul, randomidget, seiko x naiomi

Oversoul

:

Cait Sith

,

signersigner

bert

:

Generic

,

ricastle

Seiko x naom

i: Sonic boom,

ika

Generic

:

homuletic homunculi,

bert

,

Not Voting:

ZZZX

, thewayitends,

Fresh

, Espsyoncheage,

bacon and egg

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

bacon and egg

s, AngryPigeon

signersigner

: randomidget, sonic boom

bert

:

oversoul, homuletic homunculi,

bert

,

signersigner

,

Espsyoncheage

: Espysoncheage

seiko x naomi

: ,

seiko x naomi

ika

:

ika

,

Generic

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Vote count 1.17

Voting:

Sonic boom

: AngryPigeon, oversoul, seiko x naiomi

Oversoul

:

Cait Sith

,

signersigner

bert

:

Generic

,

seiko x naomi

: Sonic boom,

ika

,

bert

, randomidget,

ricastle

,

Generic

:

homuletic homunculi

ricastle

:

bacon and egg

Not Voting:

ZZZX

, thewayitends,

Fresh

, Espsyoncheage

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

, AngryPigeon,

bert

signersigner

: randomidget

bert

:

oversoul, homuletic homunculi,

signersigner

,

Espsyoncheage

: Espysoncheage

seiko x naomi

: ,

seiko x naomi

ika

:

ika

,

Generic

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Vote count 1.18

Voting:

Sonic boom

: AngryPigeon, oversoul, seiko x naiomi

Oversoul

:

Cait Sith

,

signersigner

seiko x naomi

: Sonic boom,

ika

,

bert

, randomidget,

ricastle

,

Generic

:

homuletic homunculi

ricastle

:

bacon and egg

,

Generic

,

Not Voting:

ZZZX

, thewayitends,

Fresh

, Espsyoncheage

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

, AngryPigeon,

bert

signersigner

: randomidget

bert

:

oversoul, homuletic homunculi,

signersigner

,

Espsyoncheage

: Espysoncheage

seiko x naomi

: ,

seiko x naomi

ika

:

ika

,

Generic

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Vote count 1.19

Voting:

Sonic boom

: oversoul, seiko x naiomi

Oversoul

:

Cait Sith

,

signersigner

seiko x naomi

: Sonic boom,

ricastle

,

bert

,

Generic

:

homuletic homunculi,

ricastle

:

bacon and egg

,

Generic

,

Randomidget:

ika

,

ika

:

AngryPigeon,

TheWayItEnds:

ZZZX

bacon and egg

:

randomidget

Not Voting:

thewayitends,

Fresh

, Espsyoncheage

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

, AngryPigeon,

bert

signersigner

: randomidget

bert

:

oversoul, homuletic homunculi,

signersigner

,

Espsyoncheage

: Espysoncheage

seiko x naomi

: ,

seiko x naomi

Generic

:

Generic

ZZZX

:

ZZZX

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Vote count 1.20

Voting:

Sonic boom

: oversoul, seiko x naiomi

Oversoul

:

Cait Sith

,

signersigner

seiko x naomi

: Sonic boom,

ricastle

,

bert

,

Generic

:

homuletic homunculi,

ricastle

:

bacon and egg

,

Generic

,

Randomidget:

ika

,

ika

:

AngryPigeon,

TheWayItEnds:

ZZZX

bacon and egg

:

randomidget

Not Voting:

thewayitends,

Fresh

, Espsyoncheage

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

, AngryPigeon,

bert

signersigner

: randomidget, Sonic Boom, homuletic homunculi,

bert

:

oversoul,

signersigner

,

Espsyoncheage

: Espysoncheage

seiko x naomi

:

seiko x naomi

,

Generic

,

ZZZX

:

ZZZX

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Singer is V/LA until friday

Vote count 1.21

Voting:

Sonic boom

: oversoul, seiko x naiomi

Oversoul

:

Cait Sith

,

signersigner

seiko x naomi

: Sonic boom,

bert

,

Generic

:

homuletic homunculi,

ricastle

:

bacon and egg

, Espsyoncheage

Randomidget:

ika

,

ika

:

AngryPigeon,

TheWayItEnds:

ZZZX

bacon and egg

:

randomidget,

ricastle

Homiletic Homunculi:

Generic

,

Not Voting:

thewayitends,

Fresh

,

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

, AngryPigeon,

bert

signersigner

: randomidget, Sonic Boom, homuletic homunculi, Espysoncheage

bert

:

oversoul,

signersigner

,

seiko x naomi

:

seiko x naomi

,

Generic

,

bacon and egg

ZZZX

:

ZZZX

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Singer is V/LA until friday

Vote count 1.22

Voting:

Sonic boom

: oversoul, seiko x naiomi

Oversoul

:

seiko x naomi

: Sonic boom,

bert

,

ricastle

:

bacon and egg

, Espsyoncheage, randomidget,homuletic homunculi, AngryPigeon,

Randomidget:

ika

,

Cait Sith

,

signersigner

TheWayItEnds:

ZZZX

,

Generic

,

bacon and egg

:

ricastle

Not Voting:

thewayitends,

Fresh

,

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

bert

signersigner

: randomidget, Sonic Boom, homuletic homunculi, Espysoncheage

bert

:

oversoul,

signersigner

,

seiko x naomi

:

seiko x naomi

,

Generic

,

bacon and egg

, AngryPigeon

ZZZX

:

ZZZX

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Singer is V/LA until friday

Vote count 1.23

Voting:

Sonic boom

: oversoul, seiko x naiomi

Oversoul

:

seiko x naomi

:

bert

,

ricastle

:

bacon and egg

, Espsyoncheage, randomidget,homuletic homunculi, AngryPigeon,

Randomidget:

ika

,

Cait Sith

,

signersigner

TheWayItEnds:

ZZZX

,

Generic

,

ricastle

, Sonic boom,

Not Voting:

thewayitends,

Fresh

,

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

bert

signersigner

: randomidget, Sonic Boom, homuletic homunculi, Espysoncheage

bert

:

oversoul,

signersigner

,

seiko x naomi

:

seiko x naomi

,

Generic

,

bacon and egg

, AngryPigeon

ZZZX

:

ZZZX

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Singer is V/LA until friday

Generic

is V/LA until monday

Vote count 1.24

Voting:

Sonic boom

: oversoul, seiko x naiomi

seiko x naomi

:

bert

,

ricastle

:

bacon and egg

, randomidget,homuletic homunculi, AngryPigeon,

Randomidget:

ika

,

Cait Sith

,

signersigner

TheWayItEnds:

ZZZX

,

Generic

,

ricastle

, Sonic boom, Espsyoncheage,

Not Voting:

thewayitends,

Fresh

,

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

bert

signersigner

: randomidget, Sonic Boom, Espysoncheage

bert

:

oversoul,

signersigner

,

seiko x naomi

:

seiko x naomi

,

Generic

,

bacon and egg

, AngryPigeon

Fresh

:

homuletic homunculi,

ZZZX

:

ZZZX

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Singer is V/LA until friday

Generic

is V/LA until monday

Vote count 1.25

Voting:

Sonic boom

: oversoul, seiko x naiomi

seiko x naomi

:

bert

,

ricastle

:

bacon and egg

, homuletic homunculi, AngryPigeon,

ika

,

Randomidget:

Cait Sith

,

signersigner

TheWayItEnds:

ZZZX

,

Generic

,

ricastle

, Sonic boom,

Espsyoncheage:

Fresh

,

bacon and egg

:

Espsyoncheage, randomidget,

Not Voting:

thewayitends,

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

bert

signersigner

: randomidget, Sonic Boom, Espysoncheage,

ricastle

bert

:

oversoul,

signersigner

,

seiko x naomi

:

seiko x naomi

,

Generic

,

bacon and egg

, AngryPigeon,

Cait Sith

Fresh

:

homuletic homunculi,

ZZZX

:

ZZZX

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Singer is V/LA until friday

Generic

is V/LA until monday

Vote count 1.26

Voting:

Sonic boom

: oversoul, seiko x naiomi

seiko x naomi

:

bert

ricastle

:

bacon and egg

, homuletic homunculi, AngryPigeon,

ika

,

Randomidget:

Cait Sith

,

signersigner

TheWayItEnds:

ZZZX

,

Generic

,

ricastle

, Sonic boom,

Espsyoncheage:

Fresh

,

bacon and egg

:

Espsyoncheage, randomidget,

Not Voting:

thewayitends,

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

bert

signersigner

: randomidget, Sonic Boom, Espysoncheage,

ricastle

bert

:

oversoul,

signersigner

,

seiko x naomi

:

seiko x naomi

,

Generic

,

bacon and egg

, AngryPigeon,

Cait Sith

Fresh

:

homuletic homunculi,

ZZZX

:

ZZZX

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Singer is V/LA until friday

Generic

is V/LA until monday

Vote count 1.27

Voting:

Sonic boom

: oversoul, seiko x naiomi

ricastle

:

bacon and egg

, homuletic homunculi, AngryPigeon,

ika

,

bert

Randomidget:

Cait Sith

,

signersigner

TheWayItEnds:

ZZZX

,

Generic

,

ricastle

, Sonic boom,

Espsyoncheage:

Fresh

,

bacon and egg

:

Espsyoncheage, randomidget,

Not Voting:

thewayitends,

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

mariomaniac

:

bert

signersigner

: randomidget, Sonic Boom, Espysoncheage,

ricastle

bert

:

oversoul,

signersigner

,

seiko x naomi

:

seiko x naomi

,

Generic

,

bacon and egg

, AngryPigeon,

Cait Sith

Fresh

:

homuletic homunculi,

ZZZX

:

ZZZX

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Generic

is V/LA until monday

Vote count 1.28

Voting:

Sonic boom

: oversoul, seiko x naiomi

ricastle

:

bacon and egg

, homuletic homunculi, AngryPigeon,

ika

,

bert

Randomidget:

Cait Sith

,

TheWayItEnds:

ZZZX

,

ricastle

, Sonic boom, Espsyoncheage,

signersigner

Espsyoncheage:

Fresh

,

bacon and egg

:

randomidget,

signersigner

:

thewayitends,

Not Voting:

Generic

,

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

signersigner

: randomidget, Sonic Boom, Espysoncheage,

ricastle

,

signersigner

,

bert

:

oversoul,

seiko x naomi

:

seiko x naomi

,

Generic

,

bacon and egg

, AngryPigeon,

Cait Sith

, TheWayItEnds,

ZZZX

,

bert

Fresh

:

homuletic homunculi,

ZZZX

:

ZZZX

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Vote count 1.29

Voting:

Sonic boom

: oversoul, seiko x naiomi

ricastle

:

homuletic homunculi,

ika

,

Randomidget:

Cait Sith

,

TheWayItEnds:

ZZZX

, Espsyoncheage,

signersigner

Espsyoncheage:

Fresh

,

bacon and egg

:

randomidget,

signersigner

:

thewayitends,

ika

:

ricastle

,

bacon and egg

, AngryPidgeon,

bert

, Sonic boom,

Not Voting:

Generic

,

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

signersigner

: randomidget, Sonic Boom, Espysoncheage,

ricastle

,

signersigner

,

bert

:

oversoul,

seiko x naomi

:

seiko x naomi

,

Generic

,

bacon and egg

, AngryPigeon,

Cait Sith

, TheWayItEnds,

ZZZX

,

bert

Fresh

:

homuletic homunculi,

ZZZX

:

ZZZX

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Vote count 1.30

Voting:

Sonic boom

: oversoul, seiko x naiomi

ricastle

L-2

:

ika

,

bacon and egg

,

Generic

,

bert

, homuletic homunculi, thewayitends,

ricastle

,

Randomidget:

Cait Sith

,

TheWayItEnds:

ZZZX

, Espsyoncheage,

signersigner

, Sonic boom,

Espsyoncheage:

Fresh

,

bacon and egg

:

randomidget,

ika

:

AngryPidgeon,

Not Voting:

Generic

,

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

signersigner

: randomidget, Sonic Boom, Espysoncheage,

ricastle

,

signersigner

,

bert

:

oversoul,

seiko x naomi

:

seiko x naomi

,

Generic

,

bacon and egg

, AngryPigeon,

Cait Sith

, TheWayItEnds,

ZZZX

,

bert

Fresh

:

homuletic homunculi,

ZZZX

:

ZZZX

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Vote count 1.31

Voting:

Sonic boom

: oversoul, seiko x naiomi

ricastle

LYNCH

:

ika

,

bacon and egg

,

Generic

,

bert

, homuletic homunculi, thewayitends,

ricastle

,

Fresh

, AngryPidgeon,

Randomidget:

Cait Sith

,

TheWayItEnds:

ZZZX

, Espsyoncheage,

signersigner

, Sonic boom,

Espsyoncheage:

Fresh

,

bacon and egg

:

randomidget,

ika

:

AngryPidgeon,

Not Voting:

Generic

,

Hydration:

ricastle

:

ricastle

,

signersigner

: randomidget, Sonic Boom, Espysoncheage,

ricastle

,

signersigner

,

bert

:

oversoul,

seiko x naomi

:

seiko x naomi

,

Generic

,

bacon and egg

, AngryPigeon,

Cait Sith

, TheWayItEnds,

ZZZX

,

bert

Fresh

:

homuletic homunculi,

ZZZX

:

ZZZX

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Vote count 2.03

Voting:

AngryPidgeon:

Sonic boom,

Espeonchage:

Homuletic homunculi,

bert

,

bacon and egg

,

HomuleticHomunculi:

Generic

,

Oversoul:

signersigner

,

ika

: AngryPidgeon,

Not Voting:

Oversoul,

seiko x naomi

,

ika

, thewayitends,

Fresh

,

Cait Sith

,

ZZZX

, Espyoncheage, randomidget,

Hydration:

Angrypeejeen

: Angrypeejeen

TheWayItEnds:

Homuletic homunculi,

with 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is July 12 at 12:05 cst thats in (expired on 2015-07-12 12:05:00)

Oversoul is V/LA until the first

Vote count 2.04

Voting:

Espeonchage:

Homuletic homunculi,

bert

,

bacon and egg

,

HomuleticHomunculi:

Generic

,

Oversoul:

signersigner

,

ika

: AngryPidgeon,

TheWayItEnds:

Sonic boom,

Sonic Boom:

seiko x naomi

,

Not Voting:

Oversoul,

ika

, thewayitends,

Fresh

,

Cait Sith

,

ZZZX

, Espyoncheage, randomidget,

Hydration:

Angrypeejeen

: Angrypeejeen,

seiko x naomi

TheWayItEnds:

Homuletic homunculi,

Espyoncheage:

Espysoncheage

signersigner

:

Sonic Boom

with 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is July 12 at 12:05 cst thats in (expired on 2015-07-12 12:05:00)

Oversoul is V/LA until the first

Angry Pidgeon is V/LA until monday

Vote count 2.05

Voting:

Espeonchage:

Homuletic homunculi,

bacon and egg

,

HomuleticHomunculi:

Generic

,

Oversoul:

signersigner

,

TheWayItEnds:

Sonic boom,

Sonic Boom:

seiko x naomi

,

bacon and egg

:

ika

,

ZZZX

, Espysoncheage, AngryPidgeon,

AngryPidgeon:

ZZZX

Not Voting:

Oversoul, thewayitends,

Fresh

,

Cait Sith

, Espyoncheage, randomidget,

bert

,

Hydration:

Angrypeejeen

:

seiko x naomi

TheWayItEnds:

Homuletic homunculi,

bacon and egg

, Angrypeejeen,

signersigner

:

Sonic Boom, Espysoncheage, Oversoul

Sonic boom:

ZZZX

with 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is July 12 at 12:05 cst thats in (expired on 2015-07-12 12:05:00)

Oversoul is V/LA until the first

Angry Pidgeon is V/LA until monday

Tammy (1/2 of the

Cait Sith

hydra) is V/LA until monday

Vote count 2.06

Voting:

Espeonchage:

Homuletic homunculi,

bacon and egg

,

Fresh

,

Oversoul:

signersigner

,

TheWayItEnds:

Sonic boom,

Generic

,

bert

,

Sonic Boom:

seiko x naomi

,

bacon and egg

:

ika

,

ZZZX

, Espysoncheage, AngryPidgeon,

AngryPidgeon:

ZZZX

Not Voting:

Oversoul, thewayitends,

Cait Sith

, Espyoncheage, randomidget,

Hydration:

Angrypeejeen

:

seiko x naomi

TheWayItEnds:

Homuletic homunculi,

bacon and egg

, Angrypeejeen,

signersigner

:

Sonic Boom, Espysoncheage, Oversoul

Sonic boom:

ZZZX

with 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is July 12 at 12:05 cst thats in (expired on 2015-07-12 12:05:00)

Oversoul is V/LA until the first

Angry Pidgeon is V/LA until monday

Tammy (1/2 of the

Cait Sith

hydra) is V/LA until monday

Vote count 2.07

Voting:

Espeonchage:

Homuletic homunculi,

bacon and egg

,

Fresh

,

Oversoul:

signersigner

,

TheWayItEnds:

Sonic boom,

Generic

,

bert

,

Sonic Boom:

seiko x naomi

,

bacon and egg

:

randomidget, Espysoncheage, AngryPidgeon,

AngryPidgeon:

ZZZX

Not Voting:

Oversoul, thewayitends,

Cait Sith

, Espyoncheage,

ika

Hydration:

Angrypeejeen

:

seiko x naomi

, Angrypeejeen,

Fresh

TheWayItEnds:

Homuletic homunculi,

bacon and egg

,

signersigner

:

Sonic Boom, Espysoncheage, Oversoul

Sonic boom:

ZZZX

bacon and egg

:

bert

with 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is July 12 at 12:05 cst thats in (expired on 2015-07-12 12:05:00)

Oversoul is V/LA until the first

Angry Pidgeon is V/LA until monday

Tammy (1/2 of the

Cait Sith

hydra) is V/LA until monday

Vote count 2.08

Voting:

Espeonchage:

Homuletic homunculi,

bacon and egg

,

Oversoul:

signersigner

,

TheWayItEnds:

Sonic boom,

Generic

,

bert

,

Sonic Boom:

seiko x naomi

,

bacon and egg

:

randomidget, Espysoncheage, AngryPidgeon,

AngryPidgeon:

ZZZX

Not Voting:

Oversoul, thewayitends,

Cait Sith

, Espyoncheage,

ika

,

Fresh

Hydration:

Angrypeejeen

:

seiko x naomi

, Angrypeejeen,

Fresh

,

Generic

TheWayItEnds:

Homuletic homunculi,

signersigner

:

Sonic Boom, Espysoncheage, Oversoul,

ika

,

bacon and egg

,

Sonic boom:

ZZZX

bacon and egg

:

bert

with 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is July 12 at 12:05 cst thats in (expired on 2015-07-12 12:05:00)

Oversoul is V/LA until the first

Angry Pidgeon is V/LA until monday

Tammy (1/2 of the

Cait Sith

hydra) is V/LA until monday

Vote count 2.09

Voting:

Espeonchage:

Homuletic homunculi,

seiko x naomi

,

Oversoul:

signersigner

,

TheWayItEnds:

Sonic boom,

Generic

,

bert

,

Sonic Boom:

bacon and egg

,

bacon and egg

:

randomidget, Espysoncheage, AngryPidgeon,

AngryPidgeon:

ZZZX

Not Voting:

Oversoul, thewayitends,

Cait Sith

, Espyoncheage,

ika

,

Fresh

Hydration:

Angrypeejeen

:

seiko x naomi

, Angrypeejeen,

Fresh

,

Generic

TheWayItEnds:

Homuletic homunculi,

signersigner

:

Sonic Boom, Espysoncheage, Oversoul,

ika

,

bacon and egg

,

Sonic boom:

ZZZX

bacon and egg

:

bert

with 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is July 12 at 12:05 cst thats in (expired on 2015-07-12 12:05:00)

Oversoul is V/LA until the first

Angry Pidgeon is V/LA until monday

Tammy (1/2 of the

Cait Sith

hydra) is V/LA until monday

Vote count 2.10

Voting:

TheWayItEnds:

bert

,

Sonic Boom:

Homuletic homunculi,

signersigner

,

seiko x naomi

,

bacon and egg

:

randomidget, Espysoncheage, AngryPidgeon,

AngryPidgeon:

ZZZX

,

signersigner

:

bacon and egg

, Sonic boom,

bert

Homuletic Homunculi:

Generic

,

Not Voting:

Oversoul, thewayitends,

Cait Sith

, Espyoncheage,

ika

,

Fresh

,

Hydration:

Angrypeejeen

:

seiko x naomi

, Angrypeejeen,

Generic

,

bert

,

bacon and egg

, Homuletic homunculi,

signersigner

:

Sonic Boom, Espysoncheage, Oversoul,

ika

,

signersigner

Sonic boom:

ZZZX

with 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is July 12 at 12:05 cst thats in (expired on 2015-07-12 12:05:00)

Oversoul is V/LA until the first

Titus (1/2 of Sonic Boom Hydra) is V/LA until the 6th

Vote count 2.11

Voting:

TheWayItEnds:

Fresh

,

Sonic Boom:

signersigner

,

seiko x naomi

, AngryPidgeon,

bacon and egg

:

randomidget, Espysoncheage,

AngryPidgeon:

ZZZX

,

signersigner

:

bacon and egg

, Sonic boom,

bert

, thewayitends,

Homuletic Homunculi:

Generic

,
espyoncheage: Homuletic homunculi,

Not Voting:

Oversoul,

Cait Sith

, Espyoncheage,

ika

,

Hydration:

Angrypeejeen

:

seiko x naomi

, Angrypeejeen,

Generic

,

bacon and egg

, Homuletic homunculi,

signersigner

:

Sonic Boom, Espysoncheage, Oversoul,

ika

,

signersigner

Sonic boom:

ZZZX

Generic

:

bert

,

with 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is July 12 at 12:05 cst thats in (expired on 2015-07-12 12:05:00)

Oversoul is V/LA until the first

Sonic Boom is V/LA until the 6th

Vote count 2.12

Voting:

TheWayItEnds:

Sonic Boom:

AngryPidgeon,

bacon and egg

:

Espysoncheage,

AngryPidgeon:

ZZZX

,

signersigner

:

Sonic boom,

bert

, thewayitends, randomidget,

bacon and egg

,

Homuletic Homunculi:

Generic

,

Oversoul

Homuletic homunculi,

seiko x naomi

,

signersigner

,

Fresh

,

randomidget:

Cait Sith

,

Not Voting:

Oversoul, Espyoncheage,

ika

,

Hydration:

Angrypeejeen

:

seiko x naomi

, Angrypeejeen,

Generic

,

Fresh

, TheWayItEnds

signersigner

:

Espysoncheage, Oversoul,

ika

,

signersigner

Sonic boom:

ZZZX

Generic

:

bert

,

Espysoncheage:

Fresh

:

signersigner

, Homuletic homunculi,

bacon and egg

, Sonic Boom

with 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is July 12 at 12:05 cst thats in (expired on 2015-07-12 12:05:00)

Oversoul is V/LA until the first

Vote count 2.13

Voting:

TheWayItEnds:

Sonic Boom:

ika

bacon and egg

:

Espysoncheage,

AngryPidgeon:

ZZZX

,

signersigner

:

Sonic boom,

bert

, thewayitends, randomidget,

bacon and egg

,

Generic

,

Oversoul

Homuletic homunculi,

seiko x naomi

,

signersigner

,

Fresh

, AngryPidgeon,

randomidget:

Cait Sith

,

Not Voting:

Oversoul, Espyoncheage,

Hydration:

AngryPidgeon

:

seiko x naomi

,

signersigner

:

Espysoncheage, Oversoul,

ika

,

Sonic boom:

ZZZX

Generic

:

bert

,

Espysoncheage:

Fresh

:

bacon and egg

:

Fresh

,

signersigner

,

bacon and egg

, Homuletic homunculi, AngryPidgeon, TheWayItEnds, Sonic Boom,

Generic

,

with 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is July 12 at 12:05 cst thats in (expired on 2015-07-12 12:05:00)

Oversoul is V/LA until the first

Vote count 2.14

Voting:

TheWayItEnds:

Sonic Boom:

ika

bacon and egg

:

Espysoncheage,

AngryPidgeon:

ZZZX

,

signersigner

:

Sonic boom,

bert

, thewayitends, randomidget,

bacon and egg

,

Generic

,

Oversoul

Homuletic homunculi,

seiko x naomi

,

signersigner

,

Fresh

, AngryPidgeon,

randomidget:

Cait Sith

,

Not Voting:

Oversoul, Espyoncheage,

Hydration:

AngryPidgeon

:

seiko x naomi

,

signersigner

:

Espysoncheage, Oversoul,

ika

,

Sonic boom:

ZZZX

Generic

:

bert

,

Espysoncheage:

Fresh

:

bacon and egg

:

Fresh

,

signersigner

,

bacon and egg

, Homuletic homunculi, AngryPidgeon, TheWayItEnds, Sonic Boom,

Generic

,

with 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is July 12 at 12:05 cst thats in (expired on 2015-07-12 12:05:00)

Oversoul is V/LA until the first

Vote count 2.15

Voting:

TheWayItEnds:

Sonic Boom:

ika

bacon and egg

:

Espysoncheage,

AngryPidgeon:

ZZZX

,

signersigner

:LYNCH

Sonic boom,

bert

, thewayitends, randomidget,

bacon and egg

,

Generic

, Espyoncheage,

signersigner

, Homuletic homunculi,

Oversoul

Homuletic homunculi,

seiko x naomi

,

Fresh

, AngryPidgeon,

randomidget:

Cait Sith

,

Not Voting:

Oversoul,

Hydration:

AngryPidgeon

:

seiko x naomi

,

signersigner

:

Espysoncheage, Oversoul,

ika

,

Sonic boom:

ZZZX

Generic

:

bert

,

Espysoncheage:

Fresh

:

bacon and egg

:

Fresh

,

bacon and egg

, Homuletic homunculi, AngryPidgeon, TheWayItEnds, Sonic Boom,

Generic

,

with 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is July 12 at 12:05 cst thats in (expired on 2015-07-12 12:05:00)

Oversoul is V/LA until the first

Vote count 3.02

Voting:

AngryPidgeon

: Sonic boom,

Sonic Boom:

Fresh

bacon and egg

:

AngryPidgeon

TheWayItEnds:

Generic

,

Not Voting:

Oversoul, thewayitends,

bacon and egg

, Espyoncheage, Homuletic homunculi,

ZZZX

,

ika

,

Cait Sith

Hydration:

Generic

: Sonic Boom

with 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
deadline is July 18 at 7:33 cst thats in (expired on 2015-07-18 20:33:00)

Vote count 3.03

Voting:

AngryPidgeon

: Sonic boom,

bacon and egg

:

AngryPidgeon

TheWayItEnds:

Generic

,

Oversoul:

Fresh

Not Voting:

Oversoul, thewayitends,

bacon and egg

, Espyoncheage, Homuletic homunculi,

ZZZX

,

ika

,

Cait Sith

Hydration:

Sonic Boom

: Sonic Boom,

Generic

Homuletic Homunculi:

Oversoul,

bacon and egg

, Homuletic Homunculi

with 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
deadline is July 18 at 7:33 cst thats in (expired on 2015-07-18 20:33:00)

Vote count 3.04

Voting:

Oversoul: L-2

Homuletic homunculi, AngryPidgeon,

Generic

,

bacon and egg

, Sonic boom,

Not Voting:

Oversoul, thewayitends, Espyoncheage,

ZZZX

,

ika

,

Cait Sith

,

Fresh

,

Hydration:

Sonic Boom

: Sonic Boom,

Generic

Homuletic Homunculi:

Oversoul,

bacon and egg

, Homuletic Homunculi

AngryPidgeon:

AngryPidgeon

with 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
deadline is July 18 at 7:33 cst thats in (expired on 2015-07-18 20:33:00)

Keep the posts in they hydra's guys, please.

Vote count 3.05

Voting:

Oversoul: L-2

Homuletic homunculi, AngryPidgeon,

Generic

, Sonic boom,

Fresh

,

Not Voting:

Oversoul, thewayitends, Espyoncheage,

ZZZX

,

ika

,

Cait Sith

,

bacon and egg

,

Hydration:

Sonic Boom

: Sonic Boom,

Generic

Homuletic Homunculi:

Oversoul,

bacon and egg

, Homuletic Homunculi

AngryPidgeon:

AngryPidgeon,

Cait Sith

, TheWayItEnds,

with 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
deadline is July 18 at 7:33 cst thats in (expired on 2015-07-18 20:33:00)

Keep the posts in they hydra's guys, please.

Vote count 3.06

Voting:

Oversoul: L-2

Homuletic homunculi, AngryPidgeon,

Generic

, Sonic boom,

Fresh

,

ika

:

Cait Sith

,

Not Voting:

Oversoul, thewayitends, Espyoncheage,

ZZZX

,

ika

,

Cait Sith

,

bacon and egg

,

Hydration:

Sonic Boom

: Sonic Boom,

Generic

Homuletic Homunculi:

Oversoul,

bacon and egg

, Homuletic Homunculi

AngryPidgeon:

AngryPidgeon,

Cait Sith

, TheWayItEnds,

with 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
deadline is July 18 at 7:33 cst thats in (expired on 2015-07-18 20:33:00)

All protective power roles that may or may not be in the set up protect from all possible kills

Vote count 3.07

Voting:

Oversoul:

Homuletic homunculi,

Generic

, Sonic boom,

Fresh

,

ika

:

Cait Sith

,

bacon and egg

:

AngryPidgeon,

Not Voting:

Oversoul, thewayitends, Espyoncheage,

ZZZX

,

ika

,

Cait Sith

,

bacon and egg

,

Hydration:

Sonic Boom

: Sonic Boom

Homuletic Homunculi:

Oversoul,

AngryPidgeon:

Cait Sith

, TheWayItEnds

Cait Sith

:

Generic

,

bacon and egg

, AngryPidgeon,

Fresh

:

Homuletic Homunculi

with 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
deadline is July 18 at 7:33 cst thats in (expired on 2015-07-18 20:33:00)

Searching for a replacement for

Fresh

prodding randomidget

Vote count 3.08

Voting:

Oversoul:L-2

Homuletic homunculi,

Generic

, Sonic boom,

Fresh

, randomidget

ika

:

Cait Sith

,

bacon and egg

:

AngryPidgeon,

Not Voting:

Oversoul, thewayitends, Espyoncheage,

ZZZX

,

ika

,

Cait Sith

,

bacon and egg

,

Hydration:

Sonic Boom

: Sonic Boom

Homuletic Homunculi:

Oversoul,

AngryPidgeon:

Cait Sith

, TheWayItEnds

Cait Sith

:

Generic

,

bacon and egg

, AngryPidgeon, randomidget

Fresh

:

Homuletic Homunculi

with 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
deadline is July 18 at 7:33 cst thats in (expired on 2015-07-18 20:33:00)

Searching for a replacement for

Fresh

Fresh

, unless you retract your replace out, stop posting.

Vote count 3.09

Voting:

Oversoul:L-2

Homuletic homunculi,

Generic

, Sonic boom,

Fresh

, randomidget

ika

:

Cait Sith

,

bacon and egg

:

AngryPidgeon,

Randomiget:

Espyoncheage,

Not Voting:

Oversoul, thewayitends, Espyoncheage,

ZZZX

,

ika

,

Cait Sith

,

bacon and egg

,

Hydration:

Sonic Boom

: Sonic Boom

Homuletic Homunculi:

Oversoul,

AngryPidgeon:

TheWayItEnds

Cait Sith

:

Generic

,

bacon and egg

, AngryPidgeon, randomidget,

Cait Sith

,

Fresh

:

Homuletic Homunculi

with 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
deadline is July 18 at 7:33 cst thats in (expired on 2015-07-18 20:33:00)

Searching for a replacement for

Fresh

Saki has been prodded

Vote count 3.10

Voting:

Oversoul:

Homuletic homunculi,

Generic

, randomidget

ika

:

Cait Sith

, Sonic boom,

bacon and egg

, Espyoncheage,

bacon and egg

:

AngryPidgeon,

Randomiget:

Oversoul,

Not Voting:

thewayitends, Espyoncheage,

ZZZX

,

ika

,

Cait Sith

,

Fresh

Hydration:

Sonic Boom

: Sonic Boom

Homuletic Homunculi:

Oversoul,

AngryPidgeon:

TheWayItEnds

Cait Sith

:

Generic

,

bacon and egg

, AngryPidgeon, randomidget,

Cait Sith

,

Fresh

:

Homuletic Homunculi, Espysoncheage

with 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
deadline is July 18 at 7:33 cst thats in (expired on 2015-07-18 20:33:00)

Searching for a replacement for

Fresh

Vote count 3.11

Voting:

Oversoul:

Homuletic homunculi,

Generic

, randomidget

ika

:LYNCH

Cait Sith

, Sonic boom,

bacon and egg

, Espyoncheage,

ZZZX

,

Fresh

, AngryPidgeon,

Randomiget:

Oversoul,

Not Voting:

thewayitends,

ika

,

Hydration:

Sonic Boom

: Sonic Boom

Homuletic Homunculi:

Oversoul,

AngryPidgeon:

TheWayItEnds

Cait Sith

:

Generic

,

bacon and egg

, AngryPidgeon, randomidget,

Cait Sith

,

Fresh

Fresh

:

Homuletic Homunculi, Espysoncheage

with 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
deadline is July 18 at 7:33 cst thats in (expired on 2015-07-18 20:33:00)

Searching for a replacement for

Fresh

Vote count 4.02

Voting:

Homuletic Homunculi:

Sonic boom,

Espsyoncheage:

AngryPidgeon, Homuletic homunculi,

Randomidget:

Oversoul

bacon and egg

:

Fresh

Not Voting:

thewayitends,

bacon and egg

, Espyoncheage,

ZZZX

, randomidget,

Hydration:

Sonic Boom: Sonic Boom

with 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch
deadline is August 1 at 9:11 cst thats in (expired on 2015-08-01 21:11:00)

Vote count 4.03

Voting:

Espsyoncheage: L-2

AngryPidgeon, Homuletic homunculi, randomidget, Sonic boom,

Randomidget:

Oversoul

bacon and egg

:

Fresh

Not Voting:

thewayitends,

bacon and egg

, Espyoncheage,

ZZZX

,

Hydration:

Sonic Boom:

Sonic Boom

Homuletic Homunculi:

Randomidget

with 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch
deadline is August 1 at 9:11 cst thats in (expired on 2015-08-01 21:11:00)

Vote count 4.04

Voting:

Espsyoncheage:

randomidget,

Randomidget:

Oversoul

bacon and egg

:

Fresh

, AngryPidgeon, Sonic boom, Espyoncheage,

Not Voting:

thewayitends, Espyoncheage,

ZZZX

, Homuletic homunculi,

bacon and egg

,

Hydration:

Sonic Boom:

Sonic Boom,

Fresh

Homuletic Homunculi:

Randomidget

with 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

AngryPidgeon is V/LA until sunday

ZZZX

is V/LA until sunday

deadline is August 1 at 9:11 cst thats in (expired on 2015-08-01 21:11:00)

Vote count 4.05

Voting:

Espsyoncheage:

randomidget,

Randomidget:

Oversoul

bacon and egg

L-2

:

Fresh

, AngryPidgeon, Homuletic homunculi, Espyoncheage,

TheWayItEnds:

bacon and egg

,

Not Voting:

thewayitends,

ZZZX

, Sonic boom,

Hydration:

Sonic Boom:

Sonic Boom,

Fresh

, TheWayItEnds

Homuletic Homunculi:

Randomidget

with 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

AngryPidgeon is V/LA until sunday

ZZZX

is V/LA until sunday

deadline is August 1 at 9:11 cst thats in (expired on 2015-08-01 21:11:00)

Vote count 4.06

Voting:

Espsyoncheage:

randomidget,

Randomidget:

Oversoul

bacon and egg

LYNCH

:

Fresh

, AngryPidgeon, Homuletic homunculi, Espyoncheage, TheWayItEnds, Sonic Boom

TheWayItEnds:

bacon and egg

,

Not Voting:

thewayitends,

ZZZX

, Sonic boom,

Hydration:

Sonic Boom:

Sonic Boom,

Fresh

, TheWayItEnds, Homuletic Homunculi

Homuletic Homunculi:

Randomidget, Angry Pidgeon

with 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

AngryPidgeon is V/LA until sunday

ZZZX

is V/LA until sunday

deadline is August 1 at 9:11 cst thats in (expired on 2015-08-01 21:11:00)

Part 1: League of Pink VCA in my next post.

[Sonic Boom]

We're looking for partners with the ika slot.

1.11, ika votes twie after an absence from the vote counts. Given my vocal push for lynching TWIE being ignored, that's a safe place to park a vote and have it pass through without being picked up aka distancing vote. The vote is already off by the next vote count, where ika votes town.

1.13 is the biggest support for Espy being a pink and its weak.

1.27 and 1.28 are chock full of conftown and prob town voting TWIE. Why did this wagon dismantle? Well it turned into a wagon on town. A bunch of town that cannot get a wagon lynched day 1, despite largely being townread. That suggests that scum pushed a counterwagon. TWIE and HH are buddies.

1.29 and 1.30 are the places to look.

--- We should take the assumption that scum are NOT planning to bus day 1. This position is true regardless of the size of the scumteams. #2370 looks particularly like a bus vote in retrospect. The slot doesn't talk about Mario, why they are voting Mario on either side of the vote. When Ricastle takes off, HH moves back by 1.30. HH has zero followup on Maniac's slot at all. If HH and TWIE are scumbuddies with ika, then this vote is particularly damning. There's a three way chainsaw in 1.29. Ika's voting Ricastle, who wants him dead. HH is also voting Ricastle there, again pushing the discredit. I'm a big fan of looking back at day 1. Scum have the most to lose in multiball if both pushed. Twie and SingerSigner are also crossvoting. Again, that's a 1 v 1 where scum are voting town.

In 1.30 we move to TWIE and TWIE moves over to Ricastle. He gives no reasoning but is subtlely trying to persuade Ricastle away from MM. TWIE hadn't done anything and was bragging, but now suddenly appears to push a message that Ricastle needs to discuss his reads. He doesn't say why Ricastle is scum or why it's important for him to abandon his vote on Singer. A bit not perfect here because of being survivalist.


Day 3 makes it obvious that Oversoul is not pink scum. Counterwagon tell. Plus, ika slot didn't get on the oversoul wagon. ika slot would have attempted to distance unless he couldn't because he was already going down. ika was a flashlynch, so I would not expect his buddies to be able to bus effectively. We see Espy here, which suggest he's not scum with ika. Yet, he is the bus sweet spot. We look at who is missing. HH and TWIE again.

Behavioral support/Untested Hydration VCA

The game defaults as mountainous, so scum are very unlikely to distance from their partners or attack their credibility in anyway that could actually have an impact. Here, we have HH and TWIE thick as thieves.

PoE Conclusion

If we suppose that AP isn't pink scum because obvtown and obvious positioning on the ika wagons, oversoul isn't due to the behavior of the ika wagon springing up as counter. I'm not scum with ika (but I'll let you look at the votes to form that conclusion). Oversoul isn't Pink scum due to the counterwagons and no third attempt coming up. Espy's unlikely pink scum due to the early day one positioning. 1.17 suggests that Random isn't scum with Mario Maniac because scum likely wouldn't pile onto the Seiko wagon given their isn't a wagon on pink scum (Oversoul previously eliminated and I'm town).

Given everyone else is eliminated, then Pink scum must be in HH/TWIE.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

Ya but HH is obviously not pink

I'd bet the game on HH or TWIE flipping Pink scum. If it's larger teams, I'd bet the farm on BOTH of them being Pink scum. If we have to go through TWIE, I'm 100% fine with that. My PoE confidence there is the best.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

Part 2 VCA

WE have AP as prob town and us as town.

Bacon and Espy open up having a show about not liking each other. Bacon's tunnelling on Espy, yet Espy never votes Bacon back in all of day 1. This is odd behavior. Usually in egofests, both players vote each other. 1.21, rather than Espy voting the Bacon and Egg wagon that has two votes, Espy is voting with Bacon and Egg. That's pinging me, making their whole fight look faked. 1.24 scum are split on the major wagons (assuming that Espy is scum). This is consistent with a team that doesn't care which of TWIE or Ricastle is flipped.

Then, Espy finally starts to vote Bacon when the Ricastle wagon looks like it would boil over. Random and Espy both peel off to vote Bacon. This looks like Wax attempting to dodge my VCA but I'm smarter than that. The vote pattern doesn't make sense with what's going on in the environment at all.

The day 3 wagon doesn't really tell us much about the Tridra's positioning. If Oversoul is lynched, we find out a lot there. Oversoul was also missing the lot of day 4.

HH and TWIE are confirmed Pinks, so that means that we are at Espy/Random/Oversoul. If two tridras are left, only one town is in there.

Random being Tridra suggests that he was the hydrate. A town result with a missing hydrate and the possibility of a scum buddy and ZZZX being the most plausible receipient of the cop result, suggests that Espyonage is lying. Furthermore, the fact that Espy calls Fresh a paranoid cop, suggests that they know the result is wrong. I'm just wondering at this point whether it's a stupid gambit to make Random look like scum when he isn't.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

Ya but HH is obviously not pink

Talk to me here. I'm Uncouth levels of certain that's the Pink pool (HH + TWIE). I'm so certain that if I see Sonic vote someone outside it, I'll take the vote away.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

vote: no hydrate

[Sonic Boom]

sonic says no hydrate is the best hydrate from today forth

[Sonic Boom]

we could also hydrate me again if we are curious to know what happens if we double hydrate lolol

[Sonic Boom]

HH, why do you want to lynch TWIE? You've been solidly defending TWIE throughout the game. You just called us terrible, yet you want to lynch TWIE? This makes no sense.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

So what are your current reads?

You want to compromise and just vote TWIE right now and put this egofighting behind us? I still think our case was fine by the way.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

AP, talk to me?

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

AP,

Didn't you think that Egg being conftown in Uncouth Mafia was insanely backwards because too many scum were on the wagon? You gave me so many headaches about that VCA even though it was 100% right. I showed you how right it was in MANY other games. So yes, you can say that I'm not objective (everyone's flaw here), but I have never once been wrong on a VCA that I sold as 100% confident UNLESS scum themselves were fucking with the wagons (see Team Mafia). I have had one other instance be wrong where scum were wagoned against themselves. Yet, if that was the case, I would have expected more momentum to hammer oversoul and THEN shoot Cait Sith in the night, removing the most vocal push on ika.

We've been down this road. I have no intention of voting someone who has a good chance of being scum when there's 90-95% scum in TWIE and HH. I can and am fully willing to hydrate Random if you make a good town case and you help me vote certain scum. We give and take. Let's work together.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

titus.

stop talking about your vca.

its obviously shit.

yes HH is scum, welcome to day 1.

Then why aren't you voting him?

[Sonic Boom]

no lynching is retarded

[Sonic Boom]

no lynching is retarded

then shouldnt you be all over it?

Don't use the word retarded Sonic. You know how much that annoys me.

TWIE, why do you think no lynching is good?

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

how likely is it that OS shoots other scum instead of town?

In a 3:2:2 that depends on who his buddy is if we no lynch.

That's stupid because that fear applies either way. No lynch just takes the game from town's hands, but that's precisely what you want isn't it?

[Sonic Boom]

In a 3 2 2, no lynch it can be

3 1 1, OR 2 2 1 OR 1 2 2.

The first is just not gaining much as whichever scum we lynch the following day, the other scum is in lylo AT BEST.
The second, we have AT BEST, the solo scum claim, then LYLO.
The third, we have lost because only one townie left and kingmaker.

Lynching, if we hit right, we are in a situation where we still control our own destiny. We lynch today.

If one scum on each team exists, no lynching is really dumb. Why didn't you consider that scenario?

Vote scum.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

A token mention is not sufficient, you're operating on 3 22 assumption by not voting.

Second, you did not address the obvious there that nl doesn't gain us anything even in 3 2 2.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

AP, I am out for the night. Catch you later. Please think about what I said.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

@AP, HH is pretty good. If they flip Pink, then we can follow my VCA. If they flip Tridra, we'll lynch OS tomorrow for being Pink and win. That sounds like a win win for both of us.

Why is Random just town at this point? He's not memorable according to the VCA and I don't remember much of his pushes either way. I have him and OS as nulls.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

I can see Espy faking to get a result for towncred. With ZZZX flipping, if he ascertained that we didn't get a result from our posts (which is very plausible since we didn't claim it) he could fake receiving the results as their is no other likely plausible candidate if he wanted to investigate Random. With you gunning for him, clearing someone would get him essential towncred. All Espy's result tells us is that he thinks that Random is town or Random is his scumbuddy.

I'm not a big fan of too awkward to be buddies IMO. That type of procedure appears in both buddying and whiteknighting. As for looking at Random's ISO, I don't get anything that screams town nor anything that screams scum. For instance, I'm concerned that 5697 is an example of buddying given the fact I suggested that as a remote possibility N1. He's generally been on what's popular, which can be consensus driven town or scum. There are little things like that preventing me from stating that he's town, especially if we're in a larger set of scums here. Yet, at the same time, there's nothing that makes me go OMG he's scum. If this 2:2, I'd feel much more comfortable slotting Random in as town. If it's 3:3, I still would hesitate.

As of now, TWIE is the hydrate, which that's just horrible on so many levels. I'd prefer no hydrate but if we are hydrating someone, Random is by far the best out of what's left.

Hydrate: Randomidget

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

Just popped up that apparently Espy not TWIE is the hydrate like I thought. Still just as terrible.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

Here we go again, Titus VCA gets ignored. Everyone says TWIE HH are scum, no votes. Hell, they are even scumreading each other.

HH is dangling a poisoned carrot and y'all don't even care. If Over soul flips town, he'll turn around and blame you guys too.

These are the days I hate being town.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

I did. VCA shows you're scum. I have said you and TWIE are scum. I got sidetracked by Bacon. I own that.

AP is 100% wrong on Oversoul being Pink scum. The VCA rules it out completely.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

You have a vested interest in ignoring my VCA HH. Both heads do. Yet you know as well as I do how accurate it is.

You plugging your ears like a five year old and crying you'll never listen isn't going to make it wrong.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

Where is it detached from reality? Funny how you come to defend HH in lylo, despite him being your scumread you aren't lynching solely due to lylo.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

When your biggest articulable gripe is that I am arrogant, you're just wanting to avoid voting scum for not liking me. That's not a good reason.

Second, I have been willing to work with people here in this game so your attempts to discredit me by painting me as overly arrogant have been noted.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

i.... what.

ive been calling ceph scum from like post fucking 701.

im not defending ceph im telling you to shut the fuck up about your terrible vca.

Paraphrase: I am not going to defend HH, but let me say you're case is terrible.

If not for vca, why do you think HH is scum?

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

oh, i'm not trying to discredit you. well i mean i am, because vca is horrible, but that's not why i made that post. i was just expressing my honest dislike of you.

Paraphrase: I'm not discrediting you, but really I am.

If you want TWIE lynched, why are you not voting TWIE or engaging people about TWIE being scum?

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

I don't know that Oversoul is scum and if you were town, you should be championing the lynch you want, consequences be damned. Yet, you're fully content with any lynch that isn't you or twie because AP isn't getting lynched today.

You want me to actually reconsider my VCA, then you'll have to give me a reason to. Your actions here are textbook distancing. You can say you scumread each other but never vote each other. Credit if your buddy flips scum, but the ability to never have them be lynched.

Meanwhile you offer up someone unlikely to defend themselves.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

if you would like, i can go quote every time i have mentioned vca in my mafia career, i guarantee i have not said a single thing about it other than that it's garbage

but go ahead, go on pretending i'm discrediting it because i'm scum

Not sure which head this as (as Cephrir should have told Chest how accurate my VCA is), but either head knows that different tools generate different results with different people.

As a slot, you can never even consider I am right or actually push TWIE. We both know this.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

OK

InuYasha
Revolution Mafia
Uncouth Mafia
Survivor (pool down to 2, defended scum based on play)
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkabahn

Five large themes, Five accurate VCA pools.

There's what you say and what you do Ceph. You aren't providing the right reasons.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

Oh I forgot Knight Errant 2.

[Sonic Boom]

When I am 6/6 in large themes, I think a little confidence in my VCA is warranted there.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

Blah errant was normal. Still 6 for 6 in larges.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

AP, really? You can join me on voting scum or I see no choice but to prove my VCA as accurate again. I am seeing the scum offer Over soul up for a lynch before they are likely replaced as they didn't even post during Day 4.

The definition of accurate is precisely what I say it is in the corresponding game.

InuYasha Harry Potter Uncouth and Revolution, I said all the scums were in a particular pool. I was right.

Knight Errant and Survivor, I said this pool had scum in it. Both times, no one in the pool had a town PM (Ank was town siding survivor in survivor though).

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

I have a habit of picking the wrong player as scum in my pools (if there is a wrong player), so I am content letting AP pick which one of HH or TWIE goes, but I am not voting Oversoul.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

No because I have figured out the flaws in my VCA.


Revolution mafia, for the record, is multiball. I have to do two VCAs in multiball.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

I am meeting you much more than halfway AP. The fact you're still ignoring this after me being proven right time and time again is very frustrating. Like why bother trying levels of frustrating.

My VCA always works.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

AP, Really, you accuse me of playing a victim? Really, well yeah highlighting that I am handing you the fucking answer and you don't even verify the truth of my statements AS TOWN! That's ridiculously frustrating. If you call that playing the victim, I will own tat. When town have zero desire to listen to me, I tend to get frustrated. You told me Singer was town, and I had her as a town read at one point. I got that wrong. It wasn't VCA though. I backed off from the thread for an entire day phase to apologize although Singer FMPOV was responsible for her own lynch. I have always tried to compromise with you but for Singer. Singer was a partially emotional Lynch. My VCA is not about emotion.

Really, you think I'm not working with you by hydrating Random here? Well I can be juvenile and show you what not working with you looks like but I am not that type of person who deliberately shoots us in the foot to make a point.

[Sonic Boom]

i guess the rest of us should quit mafia, since titus has solved it!

okay we can all go home now!

I still haven't solved Tridras.

Also solving the game with VCA is the easy part.

[Sonic Boom]

The hard part is apparently getting people to listen, because a 100% success rate is not good enough. My value is that I don't think like everyone else. So not following the VCA because it's not your wheelhouse is frustrating. It tells me I might as well quit mafia.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

I am shutting up now as I feel myself wanting to get really angry at AP.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

Ok. My strongest town read is definitely HH. Been that way for a long time. My next highest would be AP, but that would mean literally everyone else in the game is scum. Which is kinda heartbreaking. Does that mean we can even win at this point?

You think HH is townier than AP? Why?

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

Vote count 1.25

Voting:

Sonic boom

: oversoul, seiko x naiomi

Seiko x naomi

: Rune,

ricastle:

bacon and egg, homuletic homunculi, Angry frat BROS, MarioManiac4,

Randomidget:

Cait sith, singersigner

TheWayItEnds:

zzzx, Generic, ricastle, Sonic boom,

Espsyoncheage:

p2,

bacon and egg:

Espsyoncheage, randomidget,

Not Voting:

thewayitends,

Hydration:

Ricastle

: ricastle, Rune

singersigner

: randomidget, Sonic Boom, Espysoncheage, Ricastle

Rune:

oversoul, singersigner,

Seiko x naomi

: seiko x naomi, Generic, bacon and egg, angry frat BROS, Cait Sith

p2:

homuletic homunculi,

zzzx:

zzzx[/align][/area]

with 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch
deadline is june 29 at 10:36 cst thats in (expired on 2015-06-29 10:36:00)

Singer is V/LA until friday
Generic is V/LA until monday

Never voted for Bacon day 1, Espy? Really?

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

What did I miss

The entire fucking game

Comments like that aren't helpful Sonic.

~Titus

[Sonic Boom]

So why is HH town? That's what I'm looking for. What about the AP sketchballs thing was scummy to you?

I'm not telepathic. I can't think on the same wavelength as anyone else here with a town PM (other than Sonic but we skype so yeah).

~Titus

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That's not what I was saying. Read it again.

~Titus

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@6289, You're probably right there. I just get a nagging feeling though when I saw that. How does such a confusion over paranoid versus amnesiac happen? I went down the rabbit hole a bit there, thinking that it was Espy's guilty conscience.

I'm at the point regarding HH where you and I both think HH is scum, but we think he's on opposite teams. I don't want to argue with my townreads as I feel it's a waste of time. You're looking from a different perspective than me, and I understand that. Let's do something we agree on, as we both think he's scum. I'm not so sure on Oversoul. Yes, they are less than can be desired, but I feel that way about Random as well. I think an HH flip would greatly help the both of us. Oversoul is an easy mislynch if they are town and I don't want to fall victim to what's easy here but what's right.

If you're right, then I'll shut up about my VCA, sheep you tomorrow provided your still alive (I'd be surprised as regardless of what happens the scum motivation is to cross kill here). If I'm right, we look at who is left alive, plug in the rest of the data and decide who to lynch.

I agree with you that TWIE is not likely a Bacon buddy here, but agree for different reasons.

Frankly, I don't need you to be convinced I'm right for the right reasons. If you help me vote to lynch HH, I'd be glad to be wrong on what color he is, as long as we actually lynch scum. There comes a point where I can get too focused on being right and not focused enough on doing right. So my opinions are unlikely to change regarding who is what alignment barring a major evidence shift, but that doesn't mean we can't work together and get shit done.

~Titus

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#6292, Logical fallacy. I don't see anything that resembles a VCA. The fact you agree with me but try to paint me wanting you to follow through as scummy makes zero sense from a town perspective. Rather, it seems like you have an agenda.

#6295, I just did the VCA suggesting how and why your interaction with Bacon day 1 is off. If there are votes missing in the VCA, highlight that please. If the votes are not accurately represented in the vote counts, then my VCA itself would be less accurate. I don't think I have missed anything relevant.

Second, I am willing to go along with the group as far as is doesn't violate my conscience. I am 90-95% certain that it's an HH TWIE team. Vote TWIE or Vote HH, I don't care.

Third, a lynch on Over soul might be bad for the town, so as far as the point goes that we need AP to go along or something bad would happen for my "team", guilty as charged.

Fourth, AP is town in the VCA. I hardly mentioned him in it, bevauseI figured proving him as town was unnesscessary. To say that my VCA points AP as scum is a lie. Second, it contradicts your point about me playing towards lylo.

Fifth, no one can play towards lylo. No one will know if they are going to be alive to create a particular scenario. Your objection here looks like you're complaining there's no way out for you.

Sixth, I am terrible at pushing mislynches, if you read any scumgame of mine, I win by having town implode on itself. I don't push mislynches. So I am not going to box myself in as scum.

Seventh, after I post my VCA, it's all about hunting within my VCA. That's consistent with the games I do a VCA in and feel confident in it.

Now, time for me to get to work.

~Titus

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Espy, the point of my VCA is that it disregards all that crap. I am terrible at reading people. I know this. That's why I remove the explanations. I remove the charisma or lack thereof from the equation. What matters is who votes where. My VCA looks at answering why things turned out the way they did.

I never read on replacing in. The reason is the less garbage thoughts I have (such as Singer being scum) the purer my VCA is.

Let's take this from your perspective, you trust Wgertz. You trust his analysis, I reached the same conclusion independently on the Pink scum. We both know that a scum needs to be lynched today. I don't believe Wgertz did shit. We just need a scum flip.

We lynch HH or TWIE. We all have massive walls before the hammer. We don't reply to them. Scum want us to shoot town. Town as a collective should be better than any one person. Scum should have the ammo to cross kill.

I am unlikely to convince you I am town right now. I can accept that. That doesn't mean we can't actually get scum lynched today.

~Titus

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Scum want us to lynch town.

Seriously.

I just suck today.

~Titus

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Right. The game state is included in my VCA. votes are the game state. Charisma doesn't matter.

Mafia to me is like emotional chess. Regardless of the reasons, facts are facts. The pawn still gets promoted to whatever is selected, regardless of the rationale behind the selection of the player.

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For fucks sake, HH and TWIE aren't even trying anymore.

~Titus

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Your first post is a lot of Charisma and wifom. You look there, you're playing Wisdom's game. Wisdom's story isn't relevant as much as who he votes. A story can always be made for behavior. If it cannot, bet dollars to donuts, the player is framed.

If a player argues for something while having their vote parked elsewhere (common distancing and mislynch push), they get no credit if the buddy flips scum. I have noticed HH "pushing" Generic. The fact HH never voted Generic for any significant time is why I say they never did.

If the votes alone didn't tell the whole story, my VCA wouldn't be as accurate as it is. For the record, my VCA doesn't confscum you. Soic was really hoping it would. You're my favorite for Tridra scum, but I still think voting you is a mistake. There's at least one town in you/Oversoul/random. I would rather have scum sort that out and lynch confscum today.

~Titus

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Be back in a couple hours.

~Titus

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@Espy, Yes I am trying to get the lynch I feel we need. Call it politicking or whatever. Most call it trying to get consensus.

@All, Gambiting like that wasn't going help us. I only gambit when I can fix it if it goes wrong. I cannot fix TWIE being scum and getting a hydrate since I cannot even get a single vote on him without hydrating them.

Second, I felt Wisdom would hydrate one of his buddies and given HH and TWIE are pink scum, Wisdom would not have hydrated them.

I figured it best to avoid disaster and trust you to lynch guaranteed scum without risking fucking us over.

Third, the mod would likely tell sum if they were hydrated twice. That would be absurd not to. Did I ask? No.

~Titus

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Third, the mod would likely tell sum if they were hydrated twice. That would be absurd not to. Did I ask? No.

it actually wouldn't be absurd, but even if it would, it's not like this game hasn't had other absurd modding decisions

And just what would those be?

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Third, the mod would likely tell sum if they were hydrated twice. That would be absurd not to. Did I ask? No.

it actually wouldn't be absurd, but even if it would, it's not like this game hasn't had other absurd modding decisions

And just what would those be?

the doc mechanics

those are not real doc mechanics

also, probably the setup

What doctor mechanics are you talking about? I haven't seen anyone claim doctor. If we have Seiko as hider, AP as commuter, and the other hydrates have died or been scum, then what doctor mechanics are there?

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^ Are you being serious right now?

Lets see.

Unbalanced scumteams. 2:2:13 sucks for scum and 3:3:11 sucks for town so regardless of which it is, it is kinda whack.
Not including roles on flips. Someone actually left the game over this particularly egregious BS.
Not indicating whether someone was hydra'd when they die. Players like Fresh had no idea whether or not someone flipping "Cephrir" meant they were hydra or not.

The flips actually do indicate if someone was hydraed or not, just not their precise role. All the names match I think. If a player is joined with a Mara hydra, then they were hydrated IMO. If Cephrir doesn't have a hydra with Mara, then I think we would have heard it by now.

I don't see any "bad" modding decision beyond not replacing Oversoul TBH.

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the mod said that doctors and other effects protect from all kills.

they aren't supposed to do that

And I've said many things aren't supposed to work the way they are expected, that doesn't make it bastard modding to me. *shrug* I've had many things turn out the way I didn't forsee them. The fact the mod answered that to me indicates not bastard at all.

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*many things refers to my history generally.

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For instance, I finished a mini theme with Cheetory in it or hosting it where it was about pastries and the serial killer was a puppy and immune to everything we fucking did there. That is bastard as we had no way of determining the tracker SK wasn't a pastry at all. Here, we would have a method of determining exactly what the mod said.

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The flips actually do indicate if someone was hydraed or not, just not their precise role. All the names match I think. If a player is joined with a Mara hydra, then they were hydrated IMO. If Cephrir doesn't have a hydra with Mara, then I think we would have heard it by now.

Yes, obviously it can be figured out, but players LIKE FRESH don't know this stuff. It would have been better to say it explicitly.

Not including roles on flip is weird modding at best, bastard modding at worst.

Also would you care to claim? I'm sure you don't, but I'm at least somewhat interested in what roles are around.

I agree wierd modding but not bastard. Of course, Dark Lord Potter does flipless modding all the time. I hosted a game with known flipless modding at the start.

I'll have to ask Sonic on claiming, but I think it's fair you can deduce that I'm not a vig of any sort.

~Titus

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Given that scum have to kill opposition scum here, I'm not as opposed to claiming as you'd think. Although, I may give a pair of roles to make things harder on the scumteam. :nod: That's a decision that 100% must be made in conjuction with Sonic though.

~Titus

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@AP, I have no relevant information. I don't have a track on a living player.

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It's rather tempting to lie because I know that HH and TWIE are scum, but I can't do that.

~Titus

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No, my win condition is to get you and TWIE dead and also the tridra scum dead. If you think I'm wrong, vote TWIE. If he flips Tridra, then I'll metaphorically eat my hat. I've been wrong, but my VCA has never been. I put more stock in it than anything. I don't care if you don't agree with me. I don't care if I get any credit post game. I care if we lynch scum.

~Titus

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@AP,

I seriously don't get this here. Everyone in the group (with the exception of possibly Random as I'm not quite sure where his head is at) thinks HH and TWIE are scum, even they cross suspect each other but won't vote each other. At some point, I'm beginning to wonder WHY I can't get those votes. Espy (at least one of the heads) thinks 100% the same as I do, that HH and TWIE are pink scum. You think HH is scum. Oversoul thinks everyone but HH and you are scum. I'm pretty certain they are scum.

They've put forth arguments on why they can be town and it's quickly been seen through for what it is. So the question is why aren't people voting them? Yes, I sound entitled. Being transparent, open and honest town who everyone agrees with at least in some respect should be enough to get

someone

to vote there, especially given the fact that I've been proven to take responsibility when I'm wrong for my actions.

I know you don't like rushing things, but at some point if we talk too long, scum just escape being lynched. (Textbook example, Mini Theme UDesign, Mafia Discussion thread on how to read me).

~Titus

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i would also like an eaten hat if twie is pink scum by himself

in fact i would accept a video of you literally consuming a hat as an apology for this entire game

Noted. I don't think I can officially agree to that because Thor got in trouble for it being a trust tell. That being said if TWIE is pink scum by himself, you might just get it.

~Titus

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I was meaning it more as an expression though. I did literally bit my hat at a mafiascum meet, so I can't be surprised you took it literally.

~Titus

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10-4. So all that's left is for you to vote TWIE.

~Titus

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VOTE: TWIE

Fine by me.

~Titus

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You do realize that argument is a non-argument to me right? That I just see that as playing to emotions. I deal in facts HH. I don't get why you'd think that was the best argument.

~Titus

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im trying to be funny

laugh with me

Sorry, I generally lack a sense of humor. I'm actually a first edition Cylon that temporarily becomes human when injected with alcohol.

~Titus

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I'm policy lynching TheWayItEnds for having a continued history of ruining games for town, being unrepentant when he purposefully makes game-risking throws, and generally a dick.

VOTE: TheWayItEnds

just think

what we could have had

Thank you.

~Titus (and probably Sonic too).

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Then why aren't you voting him TWIE?

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You can't dodge what's already done... :S

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hi

I blame Cephrir for shotgunning my PL on TWIE day 1

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Even though I reached out to him specifically the first person

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Also: summary of the last 4 pages: a load of bs

But we can lynch TWIE now aye? Aye.

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could this face lie to you

^i'd just like to take this moment to remind everyone of the best argument for me being town

hhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha


but ok honestly it is a bit persuasive

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About claiming... Let's say we don't have any pertinent information gained from last night. I'll have to talk to Titus about this

It's the weekday so processing is slow

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Espy (tbone in particular) stop making long posts. I don't read them.

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my take is that your sorry ass should have been lynched day 2 instead of singer

Luckily for you a certain scum breakfast was covering your ass

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Oh and Pumbaa too


Pumbaa!! How can Pumbaa ever be scum??

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no

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you can consider wasting your time reading my ISO and then bacon then struggling to reach for connections but it will waste your time

But if you love peace of mind please go ahead

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I love blue hedgehogs

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Also the blind obsession with lynching specifically pink scum is really getting to me.

Because I can't shake the thoughts of twie, espsy, and ceph having town markers no matter how much I consider it.

For me it's pretty easy

Clear yourself

Clear myself

Find one town in (OS/Randomidget/HH?) apparently your choice is randomidget

And lynch the scummiest of the remainder

If you think of it robotically like that, your brain will be safe.

Titus just wants her VCA to be proven right. I personally don't really care as long as scum finally shoots right for the last time in the game

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yea. do I look like I'm thinking critically here?

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as son-ic tzu once said: "sometimes the obvious scum is just scum"

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I generally worry people a lot. That's pretty normal for me.