Survivormeet Invitational - Game Over

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It's nice to see you. Well,

most

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VOTE: KLICK

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I am forming the gay alliance.

Please limpitize your wrist if you are joining.

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it's gonna take a while to get out of this isn't it

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InflatablePie is your vote for Klick facetious or for serious?

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I don't know what you're talking about, but please don't assume flavor is indicative of alignment in a goddamn upick.

Idols are a mechanic?

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Fuck it let's do it. Haven't cleared this w/ Grimm, let's see how long it takes for him to remember we're in a game then find this post and yell at me for changing it without talking to him. :3

VOTE: pabs

Would he actually care?

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i don't get this

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No.

Why?

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Now taking /ins for an 11 person survivor game to be run in this thread

If you get killed it's the same as getting voted out

Also you might get modkilled if you talk outside the thread, so that'll make voting fun

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Ick.

VOTE: PrivateI

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Now there's a weird thing going on with StD/Ceph defending me and the quick vote on dragons as a result.

We're not defending you. We just can't figure out why people are voting you, and didn't like Monty's vote.

That said, I don't know what the point of this post is.

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I also don't understand why there is so much conversation about idols like they're some sort of public mechanic and everyone knows that they nullify votes to lynch when we don't know that at all unless I am missing something.

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also hey it's std again

Raj why did you vote us asking for a friend

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you can attribute what you like to it but you can be any alignment and have people vote for you for unknown reasons

i have no/very little read on you personally (ceph may differ) because you've been joking this entire time it seems until like 5 seconds ago

how about you tell me what you think of privateI's fos then vote of you since you gave no analysis for that in particular

i'm also curious why BPC gets a pass because "no one's playing the game yet" and I feel that undermines everything you've said up until that point

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Objections: fading.

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Nothing about that paragraph tells me why you used the words you used to describe bpcs vote

Std

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I also don't understand why there is so much conversation about idols like they're some sort of public mechanic and everyone knows that they nullify votes to lynch when we don't know that at all unless I am missing something.

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K.

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also hey it's std again

Raj why did you vote us asking for a friend

not a fan of your PrivateI vote

well duh

but why

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also what reaction(s)

i'm surprised there's even been more than one event to react to in this game

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hey ut i asked my scum partners and they told me to phrase it like this:

also what reaction(s)

i'm surprised there's even been more than one event to react to in this game

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it would certainly be nice to have someone to complain to, but i'm afraid your princess is in another castle

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hiplop/privatei/BPC for me.

gamma and xofelf are town.

i have essentially no reason for any of that.

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personally, i think it would be best if we lynched scum today.

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radja klick and bella all have pretty crappy isos as well add them to the list

hiplop's is better than i remembered

pabs also could very easily actually be scum, since people randomly unvoted him for posting a stack of waffles

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Shadow, I'm willing to not vote pabs today, mostly cuz of you, but you can't honestly tell me that his post wagon posts have been anything close to eloquent.

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yes

by crappy i don't mean relatively devoid of content, at least not only that

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Shadow, you should be bussing your scumbuddy Dragons right now, instead of randomly voting me.

K thx.

If people read this post and don't think it feels forced then you could probably just lynch us right now.

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do you actually expect me to believe you can't figure that one out? or do you have some sort of rhetorical point to make?

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So why did you vote PrivateI?

I mean, if you cared to sort us out, why did you wait until now to ask us?

But we voted PrivateI because his vote looked like someone just hopping onto the Pabs wagon. Personally, I didn't like how he kind of just came back from V/LA and didn't really do much, and I don't really like FoSs because they don't add anything. It felt like scum trying to nail that wagon down while being cautious enough to not hammer.

My desire to vote him is waning, tbh though, since he started playing/asking questions.

Do you have any opinions at all about this game? Because it kind of looks like you don't other than you've decided we're scum and put the cart before the horse.

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sorry i guess you're also of the opinion shadoweh is scum for some reason

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do you actually expect me to believe you can't figure that one out? or do you have some sort of rhetorical point to make?

I'd rather hear it from you.

I mean, either it had something to do with not liking his vote, which is so obvious it's practically explicit, or, what.... I just rolled a die and voted someone else? What's my scum motivation for that, are we scum with Pablito as well?

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What bothered me about it was you waited a long time with people jumping on that wagon and just randomly picked out PrivateI and called it a bad vote. Basically this entire game has felt like RVS to me. Your vote stuck out as not making any sense so I voted you for it.

You're right that I don't really have a lot of opinions about this game, because it is hard to form them when people are playing like this. Now that I've voted you, it seems like we're finally getting somewhere though.

It's pretty disingenuous to call that "random" when it obviously was not random.

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My point was it seemed like you waited until the wagon came to a certain point and voted whoever put down the (L-2?) vote.

that is literally a completely arbitrary assumption that you have no reason for making. Which is why I feel like you've decided to scumread us (whether legitimately or not) and are drawing conclusions from there.

FLUSH - does that mean someone needs to sht in my mouth?

You almost said a naughty word. That does it.

Vote: Pablito

I didn't like this because it used a jokey reason to contribute to a wagon that was no longer a joke.

But my explanation not being present previously isn't a good reason for you arbitrarily deciding that I planned in advance to vote the L-2 voter for ???? reasons.

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Unvote, Vote: Radja

Two (well I guess we're a hydra so three but I'm going rogue cuz ceph's sleeping right now so I guess back to two) can play the 'let's have a raging hard-on for each other and ignore the rest of the game' game (because that's what you're doing)

pedit: Majiffy

so like, pabs wagon-you got nothing
pabs's post wagon posts-you got nothing
attention we're getting for reasons not really clearly explained-you got nothing
shadoweh's interaction with pabs-still nothing?
no feels from privateI, gamma and/or pie, UT, Radja, HC? nothing?

like I get this game has been pretty much a shitshow of posting but there's at least nuggets out there to talk about
nuggets

can we get beyond 'this game is just shitposting' at some point it was, and perhaps still is at times but

there are nuggets

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I agree with you I should have put it more like:

I'm eager for your opinion specifically because you are one of the people like me who didn't go to the meet so I know you wont spend day one posting dank memes only, like half the player list is destined towards

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When I asked you to provide evidence for your vote you stuck your fingers in your ears and said "lalalalala you're scum" since then you've asked a couple people to affirm your vote and they all said "eh" and I feel like you haven't critically looked at anything we've posted since

But other than that I guess

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Unvote, Vote: Radja

Two (well I guess we're a hydra so three but I'm going rogue cuz ceph's sleeping right now so I guess back to two) can play the 'let's have a raging hard-on for each other and ignore the rest of the game' game (because that's what you're doing)

pedit: Majiffy

so like, pabs wagon-you got nothing
pabs's post wagon posts-you got nothing
attention we're getting for reasons not really clearly explained-you got nothing
shadoweh's interaction with pabs-still nothing?
no feels from privateI, gamma and/or pie, UT, Radja, HC? nothing?

like I get this game has been pretty much a shitshow of posting but there's at least nuggets out there to talk about
nuggets

can we get beyond 'this game is just shitposting' at some point it was, and perhaps still is at times but

there are nuggets

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There are things to talk about. Like your vote. And when I try to do that, you're shooting me down. I don't get it. I don't get why you're voting me for it either.

...What the fuck?

What were you expecting me to say? You're right, my vote is garbage and I'm scum?

We're voting you because your push on us is completely nonsensical.

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(hi, this is reck, i'm doing a skim catch up but grimm has promised he will read the game tonight & give thoughts)

please please please bring me some sanity because i feel like i'm living in the fucking twilight zone.

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I can only conclude that no one is reading our or Radja's posts because it makes no sense at all that anyone could think he has any kind of leg to stand on.

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bpc is obviously scum for flaking btw. so you should probably lynch him pretty soon.

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Monty's posts since we voted him have been much better.

It's not an overreaction.

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It is an omgus vote, which is why we spent a number of posts trying to be more objective and resisting the urge to vote you in the hopes that we would stop feeling this way, but alas.

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Oh gosh am I ~shooting you down~ by arguing that I'm not scum?? gosh I'll stop that right away.

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As far as Radja goes

You said

abandoning your scumread.

and you ignored

My desire to vote him is waning, tbh though, since he started playing/asking questions.

you said

My point was it seemed like you waited until the wagon came to a certain point and voted whoever put down the (L-2?) vote.

when we said

But we voted PrivateI because his vote looked like someone just hopping onto the Pabs wagon. Personally, I didn't like how he kind of just came back from V/LA and didn't really do much, and I don't really like FoSs because they don't add anything. It felt like scum trying to nail that wagon down while being cautious enough to not hammer.

I didn't like this because it used a jokey reason to contribute to a wagon that was no longer a joke.

you said

OMGUS

when we've said things like

I mean, if you cared to sort us out, why did you wait until now to ask us?

Do you have any opinions at all about this game? Because it kind of looks like you don't other than you've decided we're scum and put the cart before the horse.

I mean, either it had something to do with not liking his vote, which is so obvious it's practically explicit, or, what.... I just rolled a die and voted someone else? What's my scum motivation for that, are we scum with Pablito as well?

It's pretty disingenuous to call that "random" when it obviously was not random.

But my explanation not being present previously isn't a good reason for you arbitrarily deciding that I planned in advance to vote the L-2 voter for ???? reasons.

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Dragons my friends, you really seem to be extra flaily about being voted or talked about as a vote? Wanna maybe simmer down a bit and calmly and less sarcastically talk about why that's a bad idea? Cuz it's getting hard to tell if those reactions are just bad town or actually scum.

Also,

unvote

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first of all, we've been accused of having 'bad' reactions from people that probably should know better, that we're going to be flaily and passionate and sarcastic

second of all, basically I've been afraid this entire day that lazy town/scum are just going to sit on their ass with their votes on us until deadline and then people would compromise lynch us and that appears like it's going to come to pass so forgive me if I'm a little excited about it

I get we're over reacting and we really shouldn't do that. I know that. I can't help it. This game is frustrating since I feel like I'm asking questions to a wall every time I ask a question this game but I don't really think anyone can see that or cares so I'm going to power through.

Please don't imply we're bad town. If people want to think that, fine, w/e, but saying that to me is a worse insult than calling me an asshole that's just how I'm built.

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Dragons my friends, you really seem to be extra flaily about being voted or talked about as a vote? Wanna maybe simmer down a bit and calmly and less sarcastically talk about why that's a bad idea? Cuz it's getting hard to tell if those reactions are just bad town or actually scum.

Also,

unvote

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Coming in here and calling me bad is really not a great way to calm me down.

I'm more irritated than you might otherwise expect because of the deadline.

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i'm glad my other half is more eloquent today than i am.

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if that's a "sorry guys, i shouldn't have said that and/or was just trying to get a reaction" then it would be cool if that was a little clearer.

i tried to figure out how to make this post not sound petulant, but failed.

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hey dragons

if you were to vote someone that wasn't radja, who would it be?

just for myself, i'd say

bpc, because i believe he'd be more interested in the game if he were town. not a LOT more, but i think he'd be trying a little or having fun with it.

or klick, because i think he's a really good mafia player and he's not doing anything -- but that would probably be intended as much as a kick in the pants as an actual vote.

now here's std (momentarily) with a different answer based on things that are actually happening instead of things that are not happening but feel like they should be.

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hey dragons

if you were to vote someone that wasn't radja, who would it be?

I'm wary of Majiffy:

he comes in saying 'this game is shitposting' which is true. Then I tell him a bunch of events/people doing stuff, and he tells me 'this game is shitposting.' I don't mind that he doesn't talk about any of those things, but then he proceeds to say 'well I guess we're wagoning pabs or dragons.' and just now he's saying for the third time 'this game is just shitposting.'

I'm a little hesitant to go this route because A) this game has been a lot of just shit posting and I can't imagine it's easy to engage for someone who didn't attend the meet and probably isn't as familiar with the memes (I'm assuming). and B) if he actually posted something of interest I'd have little reason to pursue this.

Still, I feel like if he feels this game is shitposting, there's something to talk about to actually initiate discussion.

Another person I'd vote is Bellaphant. I'm suspicious of her 'I have scum reads, tho?' It could be an early attempt to appear town. I guess it was probably the fact Majiffy and pabs weren't at the meet and seeming awkward, but that could be faked. Her posts haven't instilled me with great confidence, and 'why are we casting shade on PrivateI' or whatever she said after we were kind of getting off of the PrivateI wagon makes me nervous (though to be fair I guess we were still voting him) at the time).

The thing that struck me about Klick besides him not really being here is mostly just one sentence: The 'don't do that' when he's talking about the confirm vote. I guess I can't really quantify what about that really bothers me, but its authoritative nature just seems off. This one is really kind of meh though.

Blackberry, BPC, Deathnote, etc. have done absolutely nothing. I get that Berry promised posting so I can wait for that. DeathNote's gone until who knows when, so I know wagoning him is useless.

I would not vote Shadoweh, Flameaxe, gammagooey, and probably not xofelf, I think they are town. Since I believe Shadoweh is town, there's no chance I'm voting for Pabs at this time.

If I were playing alone and Radja was proven innocent, I would most likely turn towards Majiffy or Bellaphant.

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i forgot about HC but I also kind of feel he's town even if he's saying/doing weird things

I guess that's not what you asked for

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i'm not sure how it is that my mafia persona is so emotional and OTT and my actual self is... not that

but i guess that's a thing

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Flameaxe seems to be having fun with this game. My one experience of him in mafia was where he was scum. He stopped posting and replaced out (I can't say for sure what the reasons were). It's a weak reasoning but it's in the back of my mind. Regardless of the meta read, I think he's engaged, and that seems town to me.

His vote seemed genuine. I still don't get the 'dragons has bad reactions ergo scummy' thing but I think he actually believes we're scum rather than being scum trying to target us.

If his posts were more content and less needling us I'd be more confident but for now I have enough to not want to vote him/feel that other people are more suspicious.

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Vote: Bellaphant

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cuz that really matters

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my flameaxe read is a lot of gut i tried my best to quantify why i felt that way.

my experience with flameaxe is that he's sarcastic and has a biting wit, i kind of feel like that's exactly what he's been doing which is way different from an apathetic person that flames out so I disagree with your belief they are the same. For now, I trust my gut. it's usually better at scumhunting than my brain.

i prefer Radja to Bellaphant personally, just not sure if it's going to get off the ground but i'm happy people are finally commenting on the interaction between us. If more people wanna jump on the Radja ship my vote is practically there.

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ROLL OUT

Vote: Radja

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you are literally ignoring half of the things we've posted

including things you've asked for like why we voted for PrivateI

we've posted reasons for your vote (check it here: 434)

part of it is you are literally ignoring half of the things we've posted

including things you've asked for like why we voted for PrivateI

please try again

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oh please. Your vote on PrivateI is a joke.

PrivateI had fossed Pablito long before voting, who cares if he made a joke when he voted.

You've said yourself that there wasn't much going on in the game at that point. If I see something I find awkward, I might as well jump on it and try to make something happen. You know, the exact thing you now claim you've been doing. If it was an incredibly serious scumread I would still be voting him.

And as if all the other votes that had happened up to that point were not jokes. At least ours was an attempt at scumhunting, that seems considerably better than "vote pablito because lolwhynot" which is about what half the votes in the game amounted to up to that point

so once again, you're just shitting on us for no reason

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I tremble at how ironic telling us we're tunneling and conf biasing when you've only voted us and have given no commentary on anything we've said or *drumroll* anything else in the game.

I'm not trying to be mean but man this is frustrating. i don't get how you can go on without seeing you're doing some of the things you've accused us of. i don't get it.

arg

deep breaths

walking away

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then what the hell were you voting PrivateI for?
You're basically voting me for doing exactly the same you're doing: an attempt at scumhunting.

i refuse to tell you AGAIN why I made that vote. Read my fucking posts.

I'm voting you because I think your "attempt at scumhunting" is disingenuous and you've repeatedly ignored our responses in order to continue hammering down the same points we've already replied to.

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Claiming is something that happens way too much. Towns have a constant problem lately of leaking information for no reason. Don't be part of the problem: claim at L-1 or 2.

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present and prepared to vote almost anyone.

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we could lynch PrivateI

I don't see a downside

is there a reason you didn't vote

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I almost forgot I just wanted you to know I asked my scum thread first this time and that's how we decided I should word it.

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Hey UT did you forget how to vote?

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yeah let's lynch those dragon motherfuckers they seem like scum

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Don't really think Shadoweh is scum, particularly not with bella.

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VOTE: hiplop

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i changed my mind

VOTE: bipolarchemist

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we didn't unvote, we switched to bellaphant, because there were only a few hours left and we needed a lynch

we revoted because he started to look like a viable wagon again

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ok days whatever

great scumhunting 10/10

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Oh so that's your argument

"Oh I had no reason and now you caught me lying going to brush it off with sarcasm/10"

Cute.

I don't think there's something wrong with changing wagons when yours doesn't seem to be working

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Yes, obviously I

lied

when I said hours. That was intentional, and I totally figured I'd get away with it because no one ever fact checks, and there was no way I could admit it was days because that would be claiming scum.

It's not at all possible that I forgot because scrambling for a lynch hours before the deadline is something that actually happened, and didn't bother to double check because I'm town and don't care about this pointless line of inquiry.

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I don't know what it is about this hydra that always causes us to get attacked for the absolute stupidest possible reasons.

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This is going to sound like I think this argument is valid enough to bother responding to, but you'll notice I'm not the head that changed our vote.

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i have had many bizarre arguments made at me in the past few hours

some have been made during d1

this one has got to be one of the strangest

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wait fuck i said hours I meant years

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i guess technically ceph is the filthy liar who can't tell hours from days

Vote: Cephrir

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okay i'm done trolling have a good day

vote: bipolarchemist

just in case

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Dragons why aren't you voting Flame/Piggy when they did the exact thing you said Flame would do as scum? ...

not quite

i had a weak meta read on flameaxe that had to do with him playing vs not playing and replacing out, it wasn't on whether or not he'd replace out, which by itself is not alignment indicative (he also replaced out of clash of the mash so I'm ignoring the replace out entirely)

even if it were solely based on him replacing out it doesn't really mean he's scum and I need to vote for them i'd rather see what piggy has to say. I'm not reading the slot as strong town, it was just a place I wasn't going to put my vote d1

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i mean

ceph said the smart, accurate stuff and you ignored it

so what else do i do

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i don't think you're scum because I can't see why scum would do what radja did

confirm bias his way onto tunnel vision from terrible reasons without thinking critically about the game at all and not talking about anything else

but if you'd rather not play this game knock yourself out

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nope

not worth it

walking away

have fun

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if i posted the argument in a cohesive, clear, serious way, would you listen to it?

if the answer is no (which I assumed it was) then I don't see why making jokes about it wasn't an appropriate response because if you're not going to listen i might as well have fun.

if the answer is yes, then i'm willing to do that for you. i think if you're scum you'd have to be insane to do this so i kind of think you're town. if you're town i'd like to get on the same page and move on if possible.

but i warn you i'm going to repeat a lot of what other people have said in the thread.

also why do you think it's helpful as town, even if we were scum, to stubbornly pursue a wagon no one else seems to have any interest in with a confirm vote on us?

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Day 1 exists? Doesn't confirm voting assume you're planning on ignoring day 2? We've had 2 flips you've ignored?

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I like bpc because he's done nothing and Ceph meta read believes he'd be doing more if he's town I believe.

I'd personally be willing to chase hip or death note or anyone else who's done jack this game but I prefer bpc if Ceph has a better reason he can give it.

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to be fair i wouldn't describe hypothetical scum-us as bussing bella particularly hard, but we're still pretty obviously town

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it must be tough being second best

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I don't think that!

ergo, fight me.

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oh honey no that's the bad scumhunting line the town line is over here

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xalxe: after reading d1 (if you haven't do so i guess), do you still like your shadow vote?

klick i hate your post. what did you think of shadoweh's response?

deathnote is that really all you're going to say...any actual thoughts on the game?

hiplop from what i know of you from chicago meet i kind of expect more out of you i guess i dunno how you play on forum but this person doesn't feel quite the same? i forgot you actually had a read on pablito in the very beginning. when do you plan on playing the game again?

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well, replacements don't make a scum slot stop being scum...

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omg handwritten notes tell ur town 5ever

still want to lynch bpc's slot but yngo votes aren't bad

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excuse you i resent that

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i would not call your behavior re: radja "bussing" so much as "trying to derail his wagon and voting him when it didn't work" but, okay,

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I was going to ask why these plays were being made so early but now it all makes sense

well assuming I'm right anyway

unvote

don't mind me

anyway who should we wagon, I'm fine w Radja/Haschel/Dragons I think.

vote for dragons, gamma

and if not then I'm very confused

also

unvote
vote Radja

sure

gamma wut r u doin

oh okay these posts are imaginary i didnt know that

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I know I'm being a little pedantic here but if we were supposed to get 'i don't give a fuck' from your votes then I'm not sure how people can accuse you of bussing and therefore i don't understand how it's part of your argument

but i kind of agree with ceph's interpretation anyway so i'm not sure how people can accuse you of bussing and therefore i don't understand how it's part of your argument

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I know I'm being a little pedantic here but if we were supposed to get 'i don't give a fuck' from your votes then I'm not sure how people can accuse you of bussing and therefore i don't understand how it's part of your argument

but i kind of agree with ceph's interpretation anyway so i'm not sure how people can accuse you of bussing and therefore i don't understand how it's part of your argument

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Was that even english?

don't be dense

that could be a lot messier and i'm pretty sure it's #grammar

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You voted for gamma at RVS, then you jumped on Shadoweh's mini-wagon, then the Pablito wagon, then you spent most of the day voting us and trying to get other people to join, then you implied you were suspicious of shadoweh and blackberry, then you jumped on the bella wagon and then the radja wagon

you voted for bella two days before the day ended and radja 1 year before the day ended.

why do you expect people to interpret that as you putting your votes almost exclusively on your partners if you're scum

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you voted for bella two days before the day ended and radja 1 year before the day ended.

shit i said year instead of hour

remembering times of things is hard when you're not the person who did them

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voted piggy first to see if Dragons would jump on.

i've explained why i wouldn't do that in separate posts in D1 and D2

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zazzle's slot is still scum but

VOTE: YNGO

do something

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That's def L-1. I'd like to hear what Gaylords have to say first, but I do have intent to hammer.

that seems premature please don't hammer

balls

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VOTE: Zazzle Frazzle

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xalxe talk to me about shadoweh

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klick i hate your post. what did you think of shadoweh's response?

klick i hate your lack of posts

convince me you're not scum

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- Hardcore defense of pabs is weird as fuck, what the fuck was that about @Shadow

I mean, maybe, but unless you think the two of them are the remaining scum...

why is this directed at bella of all people, a flipped scum

I guess people tend to get grumpy when I answer questions not directed at me but i think this is a softball

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i was going to answer it but then i decided not to

my post was, as ever, a sad jumble of the remains of several different thoughts

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603

does that look town to anyone

does xalxe's 'she started the wagon but imma still vote her, also gasp she was talking to a scum' look town

vote xalxe for great justice

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but it was a wagon on BPC that started at the beginning of the day and went away and came back so isn't YGNO a counterwagon to the BPC/Xalxe wagon if we're just going to call things things?

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just pablito? what about his push seems like he's scum with YNGO?

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I'm not going to lose sleep over a YGNO lynch

but

the anti-xalxe movement includes meta reads on BPC and problems with Xaxle's responses as he entered the game, his lack of contribution, and how he claimed to read d1 and his weird vote of shadow when he acknowledges town behavior

unless i'm mistaken, the pro-xalxe movement so far can be summed up as "...nah...not feelin' it"

which doesn't explain to me why i'm wrong

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Unvote, vote YNGO/b]
I didn't realize we were that close to probable deadline here. I'm not sure I'm really feeling the scumvibe from Xalxe or BPC before him really. There just wasn't much. The lack of response from YNGO before was unsettling, and I'm kinda for lynching the slot.

also this bothers me because how can you not feel anything from a slot who provided nothing while feeling something from a different slot that provided nothing

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summary: it's basically still rvs

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VOTE: kmd

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the sad part is is that was a good summary

also less interested in kmd if xalxe says YNGO didn't go anywhere night 1

vote: hiplop

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Didn't you guys just lynch xalxe?

yes...

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Why?

I think that it's possible one of the three latecomers on xalxe did it to mislynch. Instead of fighting me, you just kind of went 'eh, w/e.' I'm still really unsure about majiffy, and UT is dead and town, so I think you're a good start.

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Majiffy how does Xalxe saying Kmd didn't go anywhere N1 make you feel? Also what's your read on us now?

Kmd are you eventually going to look back or are you just going to roll with d3 onward?

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Vote: Majiffy

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mod you got us voting both hiplop and majiffy

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monty is town

yay i did something

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monty = PrivateI

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Majiffy's lynch me I don't care spiel is probably the reason I most think he's scum, and that has nothing to do with scum not doing that

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Majiffy's lynch me I don't care spiel is probably the reason I most think he's scum, and that has nothing to do with scum not doing that

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Can you elaborate on this a little more?

People keep saying things like 'scum wouldn't do what he's doing' with the whole "just lynch me" thing.

I disagree that scum wouldn't do that. I think what bothers me most is that it really sounds like an AtE scum is making. The whole "I'm town I just don't care" doesn't make a lot of sense in this game when we're doing pretty well despite the fact we've had spurts of shit posting.

I don't think he did anything d1, possibly actively avoiding talking about anything to make comments about how shitty the game state was. I think he made a weak attack D2 to look busy, but when it fizzled he just joined in with the shit posting and then appeared again to hammer Xalxe.

So better put would be to look at xofelf's comment about Majiffy, take pretty much the opposite, and you have my opinion.

My only trepidation is that I didn't really think this way until he started posted today.

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Looking at this site's history of listening to dead town and your apparent opinion of the quality of this game, I don't believe you actually expect that to work as town

This.

I for one have no intention of lynching Kmd anytime soon

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wtf stop it

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I was gonna say. I don't think vote tags are THAT hard.

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We remember that Kmd was tracked to nowhere, right? And there are only 2 scum I think?

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I mean, I'm also just straight up townreading him, but ok

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...Did I say that?

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I am pretty sure the only question I asked you was rhetorical

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?????

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Oh, needless hostility. Okay.

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Well, I was concerned about this lynch, but I don't care anymore.

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I looked at the list and there's like 2 people I'd vote

Is there anything Blackberry did that is suspicious?

pedit: xofelf is one person i'd vote!

Vote: xofelf

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So I'm just going to spitball here

PrivateI feels exactly how I would expect PrivateI town to play. I don't have a ton of experience with that, or if he just always plays that way, but I'm comfy with him being town

if you put everyone's posts together and removed their names from it, i feel confident i could find out which ones were xofs, but I don't have any mafia experience with her. Her posts seem really wobbly, part of which I think has to do with why i would recognize her posts, but part of it just seems a little off. I hate her comment on majiffy, esp ("that's a town slot").

I get bad feels from InflatablePie, some of his posts kind of look like 'this is what i need to be doing' but also some of his posts were good. I would have to look to find specific examples.

i'm going to have trouble with BB because I dunno if he was just WK us and bussing Radja D1 but it just kind of seems weird to do that and then be like 'hey, also, what about this townread you have on flameaxe' which is kind of why i'm curious about your opinion on BB, Gamma.

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Xofelf is usually wobbly in mafia games.

but do you actually have an opinion on xof

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*shrugs* I don't really play mafia much. And I only tend to say stuff when I have stuff to say that other people haven't already said better than me or should come from me. Sorry I seem wobbly? Normal games have a lot more to go off of than this one. Re: town slot, I did say he was specifically town, and town slot is also a way I've seen people refer to town before too. I don't play much but I try to remember and use the terminology I've seen people use before. Sorry you don't like my posts, but I'm still town. Just not good at coming across that way I guess. Observatory play doesn't come across nearly so great on forums.

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when you said majiffy was one of the people that actually made things happen in this game what exactly were you referring to

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She seems more willing to talk and give meaningful thoughts than she does as scum.

will you humor me and give me 2 examples where she's done that here

also, what is she like as scum?

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xofelf, why is majiffy the only thing you've been confident about this entire game?

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Where was he trying to play the game in your opinion

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piggy can you look at haschel's posts and convince me they come from scum?

I get he was just like "i'm busy!" and then didn't do anything, but before that he's been seeming pretty cool, if a little sparse with his content.

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Haschel has given me town vibes but I keep being wrong and I'm almost to the point where I just don't care anymore.

Mm. I guess I could see 'wanting to vote Dragons and Radja at the same time is unusual' as being more scum related cuz only scum, radja, and we would know for sure that it's not scum theatre.

I don't really like wagoning PI and xof seems to be a hard sell and not one I'm super confident in.

I think I'd be okay wagoning Klick, and I'd definitely be okay losing DeathNote.

hiplop needs to get his butt in here and preferably not replace out, I don't really know what good a treestump who doesn't have the game experience is.

Vote: Haschel

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I like whatever gets this game moving and gets people talking.

I think I can see Haschel as scum and if we can get pressure on the replacement or Haschel himself I think that will be good. I'm not opposed to voting xof some more but I don't really want to sit and wait for other people to do stuff wrt that especially when enough people have been like "xofwagon? meh."

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I agree with Gamma#591 . Reading day1 i thought dragons moved the vote because they didn't think Radja was happening and when it was then went back . This was pretty bad .

huh? can you clarify what makes that bad in this situation?

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I don't think I'd mind lynching DN or Klick tbh though today.

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DN seems more lost than anything to me. I would rather do Klick.

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I prefer DN to PrivateI so

VOTE: DeathNote

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I like both of these options

vote: klick

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vca without context is a waste of time

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Did MattP actually do anything doctory at the meet?

Did scum get fake claims?

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Xofelf - Because it’s Xof
Deathnote - Deathnote’s Deathnote
Xalxe - @survivormeet
Gammagooey - The Second Jennifer
BipolarChemist - Hands in the cookie jar

etc

i mean like I don't want to get too far into setup spec but what I'm really asking is did MattP really make it all the way to FTC and do nothing worth noting that Bro was like "hey he's a doctor lol let's make him a doctor"

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Yes

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So pablito's "reasons" against xofelf weren't actually reasons reasons. k.

what makes you say this

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wait never mind I misread the name carry on

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We have an alternative explanation for the lack of Night 3 kill, so I would not be clearing Klick on that basis.

I believe that Piggygal is town and would currently most like to lynch xofelf.

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We have an alternative explanation for the lack of Night 3 kill, so I would not be clearing Klick on that basis.

I believe that Piggygal is town and would currently most like to lynch xofelf.

then explain night 1

I cannot. I agree it may have happened once.

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But once COULD be a coincidence. That's all.

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Unvote, vote xof

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Unvote

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woof

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Vote: Actiondan

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i love that in this game that's been stalling since D1 someone who's needed thinks its totally rad to just say 'i'm prod dodging guys' without so much as an explanation or any expectation they're going to come back before they get prodded again. sorry for snark but that's frustrating.

i'm trying to remember why i thought Haschel was town and will look when I get a free moment. I guess I can see his d1 play as being potentially scummy, jumping in as the last person to hammer Radja, perhaps asking questions for the sake of looking busy.

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